Question for scottish posters, & NO ONE else, regarding Ricky Hatton.

[Dunky McCafferty]

& I mean that. English Hatton fans, do me a favour & try to keep out of this one.

Right. On to my point. Now I notice I seem to have been the only scotsman who has never wanted Ricky Hatton to win here, for reasons I have went over a thousand times on ESB over the years.

So this is my question to my fellow scots, why do you like Hatton so much, why do you want to see him do so well, & what do you feel you get out of a Hatton victory as a scottish person?

Now this isnt a loaded question, I just want some honest answers, & I will respect any answers I receive on the subject, from SCOTTISH Hatton fans.

As I say englanders, do your best to try & keep out of this fact finding survey of mine for now. Thanks:D

[kerrminator]

I've always liked Hatton, he seems a nice fella etc but I was getting more and more pissed off back when we kept being promised big fights and he was continuously fighting hand fed 'past it' or 'never had it' fighters for years.

The fight against Kostya Tszyu was a great win but I refuse to believe people when they tell me KT was in or around his prime coz thats just silly talk....he was an old man and has since retired.

I must admit that every fighter has a certain amount of non-objective fans and Ricky is one of those fighters who have too many fans who refuse to believe anything other than he is the best (imo he hasnt proved he's the best here in the UK never mind the world ...Witter anyone? )

Anyhow, sometimes the constant bleating of these non objective fans gets very boring and tiresome and I have slowly found myself starting to hope that Ricky will get a fight with somebody who is in their prime and an elite fighter into the bargain to perhaps show these fans that he is not the invincible machine they seem to have deluded themselves into believing :huh......Well, here it is, Hatton v Floyd is the first time imo that Ricky will be properly tested and although I'd like to see him win I just dont see anyway its possible. Say what you want about PBF's stinking attitude etc but he's one of the finest boxers I have seen Past and present and I have been a fan of the sweet science for many a year.

Paul :)

[victorhugo4222]

Hey Dunky as you know im 1st and foremost a fan of Scottish boxing but i like to see any british boxer albeit hatton or anyone else actually take the gamble and go across to the US and fight. Too many fighters like to stay in the comfort zone over here and fight hand picked fighters like calzaghe for eg. At least hatton has the balls to go and try build the profile of british boxing in the US were we always slagged off. So it that sense im a hatton fan but that and that only. If hatton loses and loses convincngly against PBF which i think he will then once again all we are going to hear from the US is that the best we have to offer??? As what happened when Naz got whooped big time after all the hype surrounding him.

On another note lets hope Guzman doesnt bottle out another fight against another Scotsman and AAA whips his ass and he can then say hes a REAL world champ who dethroned an ''elite'' fighter not like Rees, Big Mac and even to an extent calzaghe cause who has he ever really fought who has been regarded as a top fighter in there prime? Lacy was untested. Think ive been listening to you too much now dunky and im beginning to start to baffle on myself now!!!

[The Kurgan]

I like Hatton because he's an aggressive, exciting fighter who doesn't have a big ego. Whether he's English or not isn't so important. Bruno, Lewis and Haye are all English, but are some of my favourite boxers. Robinson and Calzaghe are Welsh, but entertaining and pleasant enough for me to support/have supported them.

[China_hand_Joe]

So this is my question to my fellow scots, why do you like Hatton so much, why do you want to see him do so well, & what do you feel you get out of a Hatton victory as a scottish person?

Now this isnt a loaded question, I just want some honest answers, & I will respect any answers I receive on the subject, from SCOTTISH Hatton fans.

As I say englanders, do your best to try & keep out of this fact finding survey of mine for now. Thanks:D

Why waste time with a survey?

They relate to a fellow alcoholic, junk food eating waster.

The last rounds where supreme athlete Mayweather brutally clowns the ragged Hatton will be amusing.

[puremental2]

i like hatton because he seems a good guy and not and not an arrogant prick.He's funny too

its not fair to dislike him just because he is english

[Jimbo]

Moved to the Scottish Forum

[TAM83]

I've always liked Hatton, he seems a nice fella etc but I was getting more and more pissed off back when we kept being promised big fights and he was continuously fighting hand fed 'past it' or 'never had it' fighters for years.

The fight against Kostya Tszyu was a great win but I refuse to believe people when they tell me KT was in or around his prime coz thats just silly talk....he was an old man and has since retired.

I must admit that every fighter has a certain amount of non-objective fans and Ricky is one of those fighters who have too many fans who refuse to believe anything other than he is the best (imo he hasnt proved he's the best here in the UK never mind the world ...Witter anyone? )

Anyhow, sometimes the constant bleating of these non objective fans gets very boring and tiresome and I have slowly found myself starting to hope that Ricky will get a fight with somebody who is in their prime and an elite fighter into the bargain to perhaps show these fans that he is not the invincible machine they seem to have deluded themselves into believing :huh......Well, here it is, Hatton v Floyd is the first time imo that Ricky will be properly tested and although I'd like to see him win I just dont see anyway its possible. Say what you want about PBF's stinking attitude etc but he's one of the finest boxers I have seen Past and present and I have been a fan of the sweet science for many a year.

Paul :)


Properly tested? are you seriously having a laugh? Dunky I'm as Scottish as they come. Doesn't mean I'm blinded to the fact there are good fighters south of the border.

Bottom line is I find Ricky to be a funny, likeable boxer who wants to fight the best around (which is why he left ****** and is fighting the P4P champion in Mayweather ). Bring on Vegas:good

[Smith]

Because he's a good guy, a good fighter, & i want to see ANY fighter from these isles get one over the Yanks.

[Nemesis]

was William Wallace gay?

I have heard reports that he was

[kerrminator]

Properly tested? are you seriously having a laugh? Dunky I'm as Scottish as they come. Doesn't mean I'm blinded to the fact there are good fighters south of the border.

Bottom line is I find Ricky to be a funny, likeable boxer who wants to fight the best around (which is why he left ****** and is fighting the P4P champion in Mayweather ). Bring on Vegas:good
Of course im serious, unless you think a fight against a 35 year old Tszyu who had only fought a couple of rounds in 3 years or so is a proper test :huh

Castillo was no test either. This is the first time he will need to show us what he can do against an elite fighter in their prime and I really hope he wins but he has no chance imo.

[AllyT]

was William Wallace gay?

I have heard reports that he was

When you are as scary as William Wallace you can be anything you like.

[AllyT]

I can't support England as team sports in this area they are the (Auld) enemy. I support any Scottish boxer pretty much come what may. But boxing is an individual sport and I will happily back a boxer from any counrtry if I like their style. Hatton impressess with his (underrated) skill, strength, and relentless pressing (I like pressure fighters). I also like the man, he makes me laugh, he does not take himself too seriously, and he comes accross as a 'good guy'.

For what it is worth he is 1/2 Scottish as both his mums parents were from Fife.

[moff123]

I think you have to be child to dislike a boxer just because of where they come from, im English but will support all British boxers.

[achillesthegreat]

A Scot who doesn't like a Englishman is just a moron. We are all British. We can have some minor rivalry in house but not supporting Ricky is so stupid it hurts my heard.

Ricky represents Britain. Ricky is good for British boxing. Plus you Scots ain't getting many Buchanans so enjoy the rest of Britain.

[The Exile]

Personally, I have enjoyed watching his fights since he was first shown on sky many years ago.

I like his all action, come forward style and ive always enjoyed watching world class body punchers.

He seems like a decent bloke, pretty humourous and down to earth. Hasnt let the money etc turn him into an asshole.

I know that Dunky and You out Sucka cant stand the guy but hey, each to there own - we dont all have to like the same boxers and I really dont believe the reason Dunky dislikes him is because he is english, everyone is entitled to there opinions :good

[BigEars]

A Scot who doesn't like a Englishman is just a moron. We are all British. We can have some minor rivalry in house but not supporting Ricky is so stupid it hurts my heard.

Ricky represents Britain. Ricky is good for British boxing. Plus you Scots ain't getting many Buchanans so enjoy the rest of Britain.

While I agree with you in one sense , that not liking someone because of where they come from is stupid on the other hand it's not crazy that Scots aren't running out to support fighters from other parts of Britain.......after all some of them would rather be Scottish , and just Scottish(not part of the UK) .

[Dunky McCafferty]

:lol: :-(

Oh dear, I bet some of the posters on ESB thought "ah heres Dunky mischief making again"

But in all honesty I wasnt. There was a method to my madness, I wanted to show the english posters that all the scots get behind hatton, cos I sometimes get the feeling many englanders hate on all the scottish fighters just cos I dont like Hatton! I could be wrong, but I feel Im right.

Im not the best representative of what your average scottish boxing fan is all about, so I wanted to show that I am in the minority regarding Hatton, & that the scottish posters DO get behind the english fighters when it comes to the crunch.

However, for some in here to say that if I dont like Hatton then I must hate the english is an untruth of big whopper proportions.

But anyway, Im going off the subject at hand a little, as the thread looks like becoming a free for all, which wasnt my intention, thus my asking for the english posters to keep out of one, JUST ONE! thread. But you couldnt couldnt you you cheeky chappies...

But thanks to the posters who have answered my questions sensibly so far:good & keep 'em coming, cos I want more scottish opinion on Hatton, just to make people realise that scottish fans in the main get behind the english fighters, & the some of the english should do the same for ours, instead of slaughtering them all the time, just cos ONE scottish guy doesnt like Hatton!

See? Im always looking out for my fellow scottish posters rather than trying to make a name for myself. Why? Cos Im a good fuckin guy. Thats why:smoke

[Betty Swollocks]

I'm not a fan of Hatton as I hate his style and constant bollocks playing up to the 'just another guy' shite, it's badly overdone and boring. He then talks about himself in the third person and seems to think from his words that he's one of the most exciting fighters of all time, which is a total joke. He has ducked Witter for a long time and Mayweather will be his first fight against an elite fighter in their prime....and he's going to get leathered.

[Dunky McCafferty]

I'm not a fan of Hatton as I hate his style and constant bollocks playing up to the 'just another guy' shite, it's badly overdone and boring. He then talks about himself in the third person and seems to think from his words that he's one of the most exciting fighters of all time, which is a total joke. He has ducked Witter for a long time and Mayweather will be his first fight against an elite fighter in their prime....and he's going to get leathered.

Thats what I like about you Sucka, you like me can see Hatton exactly for what he is, & we get some grief cos we point out the truth!

Thats why I made this thread though, cos Hatton is SO loved that my & possibly your dislike of Hatton the man is causing english Hatton fans to hate on all things scottish, such is the fanatacism of his fans. & to be honest I dont want to drag my fellow scots down just cos I dont like Hatton, so I felt I would make this thread to show the Hatton nuthuggers that just cos one or two of us dont like Hatton, its no reason to hate a whole nation for it.

Now im in a sombre mood tonight, so none of my comments are designed to antagonize. & dont you think you deserve more credit from the Hatton nuthuggers for wanting Ricky to beat Floyd than you have received?

hatton fans, they infuriate & fascinate me in equal measures, as their loyalty to him & hatred of anyone who dares not love him like they do shocks even me.

[achillesthegreat]

Hatton sometimes overplays it because its part of what he has becmoe famous for but it is irrefutable that Hatton is just like us. He is a lad who likes his kebabs, pubs, alcohol, birds, laughs etc

His house is 40 secs from his parents, he is really into his family etc etc

It is irrefutable that he is quite down to earth considering.

[Strike]

Thats what I like about you Sucka, you like me can see Hatton exactly for what he is, & we get some grief cos we point out the truth!

Thats why I made this thread though, cos Hatton is SO loved that my & possibly your dislike of Hatton the man is causing english Hatton fans to hate on all things scottish, such is the fanatacism of his fans. & to be honest I dont want to drag my fellow scots down just cos I dont like Hatton, so I felt I would make this thread to show the Hatton nuthuggers that just cos one or two of us dont like Hatton, its no reason to hate a whole nation for it.

Now im in a sombre mood tonight, so none of my comments are designed to antagonize. & dont you think you deserve more credit from the Hatton nuthuggers for wanting Ricky to beat Floyd than you have received?

hatton fans, they infuriate & fascinate me in equal measures, as their loyalty to him & hatred of anyone who dares not love him like they do shocks even me.

But here is the thing. Most English posters on here DO support Scottish fighters and they support the Welsh fighters.
The one guy who got a lot of stick was Harrison because people thought he had a bad attitude and had not fought anyone top drawer.

It is very misleading to say Hattons first fight against a guy in his prime is now and he will lose.
Yes he will lose, but not because the guy is "in his prime" but because the guy is the best boxer on the planet.

I cannot stand revisionism. NOBODY gave Hatton a hope against Tsyzu, and this supposedly shot, past it Tsyzu had just starched Mitchell with greater ease than his first victory and was looking in perfect shape. Tsyzu then fought how he has ALWAYS fought and lost in a manner pretty similar to his only other loss years before.

Collazo and Urango were not top tier fighters but both were "in their prime" and I think Collazo will prove himself to be a very solid fighter. He broke his hand against Mosley and would have lost regardless, but then once again Mosley is truly elite, not just in his divison but in p4p sense over the past decade.

Urango was a poor fight to take IMO and I dont expect much from him. But Collazo will win another world title.

Lets be honest Dunky you have shifted the attack to his record after mainly focusing on his anti Scottish antics at the Arthur fight and him being fake. The Arthur thing has now been proven to be an error on your part as the footage of Hatton climbing up onto the ring with his sombrero is there for all to see.

I dont see why his record would be such a cause for contention because on that basis, Witter has faced one top guy in his prime and lost. Harrison never faced any top in his prime, Calzaghe has only faced one top guy in his prime, Haye has not faced anyone top in their prime and still lost, same for Mac....
And so on.

[achillesthegreat]

I'm English and if you expect me not to support Calzaghe, Harrison, Arthur, Enzo etc you can go jump.

[AllyT]

A Scot who doesn't like a Englishman is just a moron. We are all British. We can have some minor rivalry in house but not supporting Ricky is so stupid it hurts my heard.

Ricky represents Britain. Ricky is good for British boxing. Plus you Scots ain't getting many Buchanans so enjoy the rest of Britain.

Ricky Hatton is popular in Scotland but as in England some do not buy into it. It is not reasonable to expect total support from Scotland when that is not the case in England.

[China_hand_Joe]

Everyone should support Hatton, because he is a very good fighter.

Everyone from Scotland, England and Wales should be supporting Mayweather in December though as he is the better fighter. And you should always want the better fighter to win, they deserve it.

[Max Molyneux]

Everyone from Scotland, England and Wales should be supporting Mayweather in December though as he is the better fighter. And you should always want the better fighter to win, they deserve it.
Why support the better fighter just because he's better?

[madflyer]

I am Scottish and will definitely be supporting Hatton when he fights PBF. He may not be the boxer Floyd is but he's a decent grounded fella with the heart and aggression of a tiger. I am all for getting one over in the Septics especially as they have Ricky beat before the fight has started. I hope he knocks his bollocks in, but it will be no mean feat.

[Max Molyneux]

I hope Hatton beats Floyd and will be made up If he does but I think Floyd's going to box rings around him.

Hatton was lucky Callazo figured him out too late.

[elle]

Some of my favourite boxers are scottish - Anderson, Simpson & Limond but the fact they are scots is coincidental, thats not the reason I support them. I don't really understand the 'them and us' mentality.

[AllyT]

Some of my favourite boxers are scottish - Anderson, Simpson & Limond but the fact they are scots is coincidental, thats not the reason I support them. I don't really understand the 'them and us' mentality.

In Scotland the tendency is to see English teams as 'the enemy' but this does not translate to individual sports. Benn, Eubank, Bruno, Hatton, and Calzaghe from Wales have along with others all had a following in Scotland. I very definately want Hatton to win in December. Still hope Tonga win tonight though:yep

[bratwurzt]

I would always support a Scottish/Wesh/Irish guy against anyone overseas, not against an English fighter I must admit - it's natural I suppose. However, I really wanted that little Scottish guy to knock that Matthews blokes head off. In that fight I didn't give a fuck about nationality.

[grayggr]

Quit the Hatton hate.

[David UK]

We are all British and should all get behind any British fighter fighting (in this instance) an American

[Decebal]

We are all British and should all get behind any British fighter fighting (in this instance) an American

Sure!:good

[Dunky McCafferty]

Lets be honest Dunky you have shifted the attack to his record after mainly focusing on his anti Scottish antics at the Arthur fight and him being fake. The Arthur thing has now been proven to be an error on your part as the footage of Hatton climbing up onto the ring with his sombrero is there for all to see.

I dont see why his record would be such a cause for contention because on that basis, Witter has faced one top guy in his prime and lost. Harrison never faced any top in his prime, Calzaghe has only faced one top guy in his prime, Haye has not faced anyone top in their prime and still lost, same for Mac....
And so on.

lets be honest Dunky? So what you are saying is Im dishonest then:nono I havent shifted anything, never mind my so called 'attack' on Hatton, which may I say has never been an attack, just an honest opinion! see what I mean about you Hatton fans being nasty to people who dont love him as much as you lot do?;)

My criticisms of Hatton are just a personal opinion, but im sick of being called a liar etc just cos I dont sing from the same hymnbook as most other people on here. Bloody Hatton fans... you cant say fuck all about him that isnt a blatant arselick without creating a storm.

& to think I originally made this thread to show the support Hatton has in Scotland! But instead of evryone talking up the scottish Hatton fans, all that happens is I get hunted down as usual for not loving him!!!

lets forget about me & my non support of Hatton for a second in this thread, & give the legions of scottish Hatton fans some credit, for getting behind an english fighter in his hour of need.

Thats what makes me sad, is that the likes of kevin Anderson etc dont get the same backing from the english fans as the likes of Hatton gets from the scottish fans here & everywhere else.

Now THATS what Im saying.

[Strike]

lets be honest Dunky? So what you are saying is Im dishonest then:nono I havent shifted anything, never mind my so called 'attack' on Hatton, which may I say has never been an attack, just an honest opinion! see what I mean about you Hatton fans being nasty to people who dont love him as much as you lot do?;)

My criticisms of Hatton are just a personal opinion, but im sick of being called a liar etc just cos I dont sing from the same hymnbook as most other people on here. Bloody Hatton fans... you cant say fuck all about him that isnt a blatant arselick without creating a storm.

& to think I originally made this thread to show the support Hatton has in Scotland! But instead of evryone talking up the scottish Hatton fans, all that happens is I get hunted down as usual for not loving him!!!

lets forget about me & my non support of Hatton for a second in this thread, & give the legions of scottish Hatton fans some credit, for getting behind an english fighter in his hour of need.

Thats what makes me sad, is that the likes of kevin Anderson etc dont get the same backing from the english fans as the likes of Hatton gets from the scottish fans here & everywhere else.

Now THATS what Im saying.

What are you on about? You have made out that the Arthur incident was one of the key reasons you disliked him. That is proven to be a mistake by you now.
Anderson is simply not known like Hatton is. Trust me, most English supported Steve Collins and Barry McGuigan. Most will support Alex Arthur when he gets his world title fight.

Your "honest" opinion is based on errors. I never said lies, but it is errors. The belief about the Arthur fight for one.
Expecting Anderson to get the same coverage and support as Hatton is like expecting Limond to get the same coverage that Harrison got at his peak....it is unrealistic.

[kerrminator]

Anderson provides the best domestic dust ups each year imo :)

Scott Harrison used to get a lot of unfair criticism and that was way before he went off the rails. He was teak tough, entertaining to watch and would have given any featherweight a tough time imo (he'd have eaten Cook alive too imo)

[Healy]

Im not Scotish obviously, but from this side of the pond and im up for PBF, simply because i am a fan of his. I admit to not really liking the style Hatton has, but if he was from Japan it'd be the same.

I like Witter, Moore, Earl and Williams and would be shouting for all them in a fight, nationality shouldnt come into it when its a sport like boxing

[Dunky McCafferty]

What are you on about? You have made out that the Arthur incident was one of the key reasons you disliked him. That is proven to be a mistake by you now.
Anderson is simply not known like Hatton is. Trust me, most English supported Steve Collins and Barry McGuigan. Most will support Alex Arthur when he gets his world title fight.

Your "honest" opinion is based on errors. I never said lies, but it is errors. The belief about the Arthur fight for one.
Expecting Anderson to get the same coverage and support as Hatton is like expecting Limond to get the same coverage that Harrison got at his peak....it is unrealistic.

what proof? that was you & gaz trying to do a 'number' on me you pair of gits with false links;) You guys must think my big scottish head buttons up the back!

Look Strike. I know Ando isnt in Hattons league support wise, in fact no-one is. Hatton IMO could sell out the new Wembley for his fight with Mayweather, hes a british phenomenon. all I ask in return is that the scottish fighters get a wee bit of english support in return for the backing they give the Hatton & the other english fighters. Cos last time I looked, only a handful of englanders gave Anderson credit, the rest were screaming abuse about him & picking guys who they wanted to beat him.

the way I look at it is this 'british' thing is a bit of a one way street, where the scots cheer on the english & welsh lads & the english & welsh lads attack the scots fighters in return. Check out Andersons threads for instance, theres a lot of nasty shit said about Scotlands rising star from people who get outraged at any criticism of english or welsh fighters.
Remember what I said about english & welsh posters being too cosy & constantly taling about Hatton & Calzaghe like they are blood brothers?...

[Dunky McCafferty]

Anderson provides the best domestic dust ups each year imo :)

Scott Harrison used to get a lot of unfair criticism and that was way before he went off the rails. He was teak tough, entertaining to watch and would have given any featherweight a tough time imo (he'd have eaten Cook alive too imo)

aye kerrminator my good man. Didnt the two of us have to put up with some serious shit defending Scotty in the past on numerous forums? Not fuckin half mate. The hate was unreal. Fuck the 'cos Scotty was bad apple' bullshit, cos before Scotty went off the rails the assorted brit forums were unanimous in their hate of all things Scotty. Why? cos he was the best scottish fighter by a country mile when he was at his peak.

We saw the shit for what it was, & your presence Kerrminator is bringing back many memories, & you know what I am saying here my scottish brother.

BTW, tell Anorak I was asking for him if you dont mind Kerrminator, & hes invited over here for tea with me.

You know those englanders, can never resist a good cuppa:D

[Dunky McCafferty]

Im not Scotish obviously, but from this side of the pond and im up for PBF, simply because i am a fan of his. I admit to not really liking the style Hatton has, but if he was from Japan it'd be the same.

I like Witter, Moore, Earl and Williams and would be shouting for all them in a fight, nationality shouldnt come into it when its a sport like boxing

damn right you are not scottish healy, when you call us 'scotish':lol: but dont worry fella, I dont mind!

you must feel you are between a rock & a hard place healy btw, as I know you like me, a Hatton hater but you are a close friend of Strikes, a Hatton nuthugger:D

So its decision time. You cant be friends with both of us. Sorry to put you up to this, but you have to make a decision.

aah just kidding young fella. Isnt petty ESB rivalries fun?;)

BTW, good to see you back on ESB Healy, I fought your corner while you were away, so its good to see common sense prevailed on the lounge for once & they let you return.

[Strike]

what proof? that was you & gaz trying to do a 'number' on me you pair of gits with false links;) You guys must think my big scottish head buttons up the back!

Look Strike. I know Ando isnt in Hattons league support wise, in fact no-one is. Hatton IMO could sell out the new Wembley for his fight with Mayweather, hes a british phenomenon. all I ask in return is that the scottish fighters get a wee bit of english support in return for the backing they give the Hatton & the other english fighters. Cos last time I looked, only a handful of englanders gave Anderson credit, the rest were screaming abuse about him & picking guys who they wanted to beat him.

the way I look at it is this 'british' thing is a bit of a one way street, where the scots cheer on the english & welsh lads & the english & welsh lads attack the scots fighters in return. Check out Andersons threads for instance, theres a lot of nasty shit said about Scotlands rising star from people who get outraged at any criticism of english or welsh fighters.
Remember what I said about english & welsh posters being too cosy & constantly taling about Hatton & Calzaghe like they are blood brothers?...

Well put it this way, most English people I know would support a Scottish fighter and most English TV etc talks about the home nations even in team sports. You do not get the fanatical anti Scottish or Anti Welsh support here in the way you do with Anti England in either of those respective nations.

Look at the support Andy Murray gets at Wimbledon. Hardly cast aside as a "Scot" is he?
Look at how the views of Alan Hansen are given so much respect on Match of the Day and this paranoia about an anti Scottish conspiracy is clearly misplaced.

And the fact that everyone on the site could watch the Arthur links except for you is a tad too convenient.

[Healy]

damn right you are not scottish healy, when you call us 'scotish':lol: but dont worry fella, I dont mind!

you must feel you are between a rock & a hard place healy btw, as I know you like me, a Hatton hater but you are a close friend of Strikes, a Hatton nuthugger:D

So its decision time. You cant be friends with both of us. Sorry to put you up to this, but you have to make a decision.

aah just kidding young fella. Isnt petty ESB rivalries fun?;)

BTW, good to see you back on ESB Healy, I fought your corner while you were away, so its good to see common sense prevailed on the lounge for once & they let you return.:lol:
Im glad you can laugh at it all..

Iknow your passionate, equally in hate as in love:rofl

Il just be friends with both of yas:D

good to see you posting also:good

[achillesthegreat]

Ricky Hatton is popular in Scotland but as in England some do not buy into it. It is not reasonable to expect total support from Scotland when that is not the case in England.
In my eyes Dunky is representative of the whole of Scotland :)

[victorhugo4222]

I would always support a Scottish/Wesh/Irish guy against anyone overseas, not against an English fighter I must admit - it's natural I suppose. However, I really wanted that little Scottish guy to knock that Matthews blokes head off. In that fight I didn't give a fuck about nationality.

Get it right mate John did KNOCK matthews fucking head off was just robbed against some reslly dodgy(and corruipt!) judges! Matthews every round including the knockdown? My arse! John is dying for a rematch with matthews and has even said to his promoter alex morrison he got a 1 word response? NO!! ****** wont allow it.

[victorhugo4222]

In my eyes Dunky is representative of the whole of Scotland :)

achilles you are so wrong!!! yeah i respect dunkys opinion more than i respect yours or any other poser on here but he doesnt represent all of scotland on here. for an instance he doesntr likie hatton were i know for a fact 90% of scottish posters. including me. not only like but folow hatton and want him yo win not only against PBFA btu anyone but6 against a scottish opponent.

[Dunky McCafferty]

Well put it this way, most English people I know would support a Scottish fighter and most English TV etc talks about the home nations even in team sports. You do not get the fanatical anti Scottish or Anti Welsh support here in the way you do with Anti England in either of those respective nations.

Look at the support Andy Murray gets at Wimbledon. Hardly cast aside as a "Scot" is he?
Look at how the views of Alan Hansen are given so much respect on Match of the Day and this paranoia about an anti Scottish conspiracy is clearly misplaced.

And the fact that everyone on the site could watch the Arthur links except for you is a tad too convenient.

well, if thats the case, please direct these people you know onto ESB, I would love to talk to them!

As for those lovely english TV presenters, check out Richard keys on Youtube talking about the Scotland v Faroe Islands game recently when he didnt realise his mic was still switched on, I would post the link, but some of them dont work properly here as I found to my cost;)

Then theres Andy. our Andy. Britains Andy. That was until he said he would like to be referred to as scottish instaed of British, & he got death threats from dear old mother Englands inhabitants.

then theres Alen Hansen, a guy who refers to England us 'us' time & time again when hes punditing, & as a player used any excuse not to ply for his country. is it any surprise english people accept him as on of their own? well is it?

But hey, what am I doing daring to discuss these issues? For I am but a paranoid deluded individual who imagines it all in his big scottish head... hell, I must even be imagining London syphoning money out of Scotland to fund their fucked up olympic bid!

the last sentence was a bit petty I know, but Im a petty bastard you see:D

[Healy]

p7gCYAtmYSI


First time i saw that, 'silly little ground' :rofl

[Dunky McCafferty]

p7gCYAtmYSI


First time I saw that, 'silly little ground' :rofl

the link doesnt work healy, but these englanders tried to make me out a liar for pointing out that not all YT links work here;) but thats not your argument, so I will leave it at that, & wait for the doubters to apologize:D

As if!:lol:

These characters are too proud for that kinda shit Healy, so I have to play them just right to avoid hurting their fragile egos;)

See what I have to deal with in here on a day to day basis as the resident Hatton hater Healy? its a tough job!

[rooq]

Then theres Andy. our Andy. Britains Andy. That was until he said he would like to be referred to as scottish instaed of British, & he got death threats from dear old mother Englands inhabitants.

did he really get death threats? i think all of the home nations have there fair share of idiots.

but like strike said, plenty of english would support a scottish fighter in an international contest. i'd also back the scottish football team as long as they weren't playing england.

[Betty Swollocks]

'I'm joost back from the poob and a game o darts an a pint of Boddingtons with me mates, I beat Kostya Tszyu and Castillo you know, and Mexicans loove me style...joost like Gatti or Chavez. Did I mention I tought Tszyu?........'

[achillesthegreat]

achilles you are so wrong!!! yeah i respect dunkys opinion more than i respect yours or any other poser on here but he doesnt represent all of scotland on here. for an instance he doesntr likie hatton were i know for a fact 90% of scottish posters. including me. not only like but folow hatton and want him yo win not only against PBFA btu anyone but6 against a scottish opponent.
I'm only joking. I like Dunky but his opinion is so unbelievably bias that it has no real worth.

[GazOC]

then theres Alen Hansen, a guy who refers to England us 'us' time & time again when hes punditing, & as a player used any excuse not to ply for his country. is it any surprise english people accept him as on of their own? well is it?


Hansen didn't play more often for Scotland because he wasn't picked not because he couldn't be arsed. At the time Aberdeen had 2 decent centre halves, neither of which as a good as Hansen, but they were picked because they were an established pairing who played together week in ,week out. There was also the feeling that Hansen was being discriminated against beacause he played for an English club but that can't really be proved one way or the other.

BTW Dunks you should really put the record straight on 'Somberogate', fairs fair.....:D

[GazOC]

did he really get death threats? i think all of the home nations have there fair share of idiots.
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This is a half truth from Dunky.......It was not over Murray wanting to be know as Scottish at all, England were playing in the World Cup and Murray did an interview where he said the hoped the other side would win (ie. any other side). Not really the sort of thing to deserve a death threat and he is entitled to his opinion but a bit naive from a PR point of view. I know I want the lanky fucker to win fuck all in his career because of it.

[Beatboxer]

Hey Dunky

Well the reason i like Hatton despite being Scottish is for reasons others have stated like he seems like a good guy comes across as being good natured easy going likeable etc plus, especially earlier on in his career his fights were exciting with his all action body assault being the highlight

the other reason is ive always rooted against england in team sports such as football and rugby but ive always seen the england scotland rivalry in a rangers and celtic light: a fierce rivalry where you always want to see the opposing team lose and take great joy and delight when they do but in that sense i have never hated or disliked anyone for being a rangers fan because i follow Celtic: i like or dislike them on the basis of their personality not by which team they support

boxing is an individual sport...whilst i support the scottish national team due to my scottish identity and celtic due to my close proximity to celtic park and my family i rarely follow fighters on the basis of their nationality its more to do with their style and whether their personality appeals...the fact that Hatton is english does not make me like or dislike him its actions inside and outside the ring that decide that

[Beatboxer]

Ive just read some of the other comments in this thread

it ain't a one way rivalry with england and Scotland thats for sure

anyone see Linekers reaction to Scotland beating fucking France in the Parc de Prince ? or should i say total lack of reaction ?

"heres the rest of the results from around Europe and Scotland managed to hang to a 0-1 win over France"... then nothing...

can you imagine if that sorry excuse for the disgraceful overpaid pampererd couldn't even beat Lichenstein convincingly mob from down south managed to beat a team not beaten in their own patch in a qualifier for 7 years ?

the images i could put forth wouldn't do it justice...Linekers smirk....Lawrensons smug analysis...more "pinch yourself plzzzz" from Motson...

nah this generation of england football fans might not loath and despise scotland like generations past in the same vain as Rangers and Celtic hate each other no they are INDIFFERENT with the absence of the old home internationals coupled with the fact that we have not had quite the success of by gone eras

that era has ended...Scotland are one of the fastest up and coming football nations on the planet and if we played England with that muppet in charge and the WAG culture surrounding your sorry excuse for a football team we beat you home and away...

so Lineker ignore for now when we end your hopes at a major tournament without the need for a penalty shootout you won't be able to dismiss like Keys there any longer

[GazOC]

that era has ended...Scotland are one of the fastest up and coming football nations on the planet



Only because of how low you'd sunk in the first place. ;) Most England fans would prefer playing a good Scotland side to 90% of the meaningless friendlies we play these days but there are never 3 decent teams in the Home Nations let alone 4 unfortuneatly.

["TKO"]

so Lineker ignore for now when we end your hopes at a major tournament without the need for a penalty shootout you won't be able to dismiss like Keys there any longer

Don't you need to actually qualify for one first? :yep :yep :yep

[Dunky McCafferty]

Hansen didn't play more often for Scotland because he wasn't picked not because he couldn't be arsed. At the time Aberdeen had 2 decent centre halves, neither of which as a good as Hansen, but they were picked because they were an established pairing who played together week in ,week out. There was also the feeling that Hansen was being discriminated against beacause he played for an English club but that can't really be proved one way or the other.

BTW Dunks you should really put the record straight on 'Somberogate', fairs fair.....:D

believe it or not, hansen was honking when he pueeld on a blue jersey! Great for Liverpool, crap for Scotland. Dont ask me why, some players are just like that. Brian McClair for instance. Great for Celtic & Man U, terrible for Scotland.

Anyway. onto 'sombrerogate':D look. I would just love to finish this argument once & for all, wether I was proved to be right, or wrong. However, what can a man do when the damn links dont work? I have been called a liar & all sorts of hurtful stuff because of 'sombrerogate' & I would love closure. But thanks to a cruel twist of fate, those damn links didnt work, & still dont:fire

Just my bloody bad luck I suppose Gaz;)

[GazOC]

:good :lol:

Damn those pesky links!!!!