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Everytime I see this jerk he makes me hate him even more. Anybody watching TUF?
ravtrav
09-27-2007, 12:01 AM
Everytime I see this jerk he makes me hate him even more. Anybody watching TUF?no shit:nut
Beebs
09-27-2007, 01:15 AM
That was fucking weird.
Boinko
09-27-2007, 01:53 AM
I liked Serra's reaction when he heard about it, calling Hughes a "whackjob." Man, I doubt it'll happen, but I'd love to see Serra kick Hughes butt.
But, wishful thinking I fear.
Wilhelm
09-27-2007, 02:03 AM
I liked Serra's reaction when he heard about it, calling Hughes a "whackjob." Man, I doubt it'll happen, but I'd love to see Serra kick Hughes butt.
But, wishful thinking I fear.
Yeah, I'd like to see it happen too, but I doubt it will.
I'm sick of how much of the show is being taken up by the guido whimp that Serra brought with him. Let him go home and marry the girl that he was just wondering about cheating on him and move on to something less fucking lame.
Blacc Jesus
09-27-2007, 02:16 AM
I wanna see Serra cave Hughes fuckin face in.
achillesthegreat
09-27-2007, 04:32 AM
???
What is happening?
From what I've seen Hughes is the man and Serra is a cunt.
Beebs
09-27-2007, 04:41 AM
Like I said earlier it was weird, and wouldnt surprise me if it was a script, but from what I caught watching it;
It was about somebody predicting the birth of christ, Hughes asked them to figure out who he was, I assume what he was getting at was that he saw great things in the fighters and that they would go on to have success. A decent idea for motivation, but a terrible analogy, and flat out awkward.
scurlaruntings
09-27-2007, 05:57 AM
Hughes is a good ol fashioned redneck..
Donut62
09-27-2007, 07:44 AM
Mac Danzig is my hero.
cross_trainer
09-27-2007, 11:10 AM
He mentioned religion!
STONE HIM!!!!! :lol:
concrete sledge
09-27-2007, 11:15 AM
I'd tell him to fuck off.
iksrtfo
09-27-2007, 11:18 AM
Look; All jesting aside. It is not a big deal. I happen to be an Agnostic but that does not mean I have to be close minded. As a show of respect, simply read the passages.. :yep
As a show of respect do ask others to read YOUR holy book. Right?
Boinko
09-27-2007, 12:13 PM
I wonder what the reaction would be if one of the coaches on the show pulled out the Koran and asked his guys to read some passages.
I'm not saying the Koran is ultimately any different from the bible, but I'm willing to bet that some of the people now defending Hughes would criticize someone who handed out copies of the Koran.
This was simply a thinly veiled attempt by Hughes to shove his religion down other people's throats. Oh sure, he tried to pretend it was just to read one simple story. But don't be surprised if this trend continues in future episodes where he encourages more and more for his team to keep reading the holy book.
Sure, he's free to do whatever he wants, but he might find this tactic actually does more harm that good. A person's religion (or lack of religion) is a very personal matter, and if the perception is created among the guys on his team who don't share Hughe's ideology that the Christian guys are more favoured by their coach, it could end up being divisive.
Boinko
09-27-2007, 12:34 PM
I'd like to see one of the guys on the team bring in some Scientology literature and hand out copies to everyone.
"Hey everyone, check out chapter 6. It's got a really good story in there.
Let's see how well that plays.
Donut62
09-27-2007, 12:37 PM
He mentioned religion!
STONE HIM!!!!! :lol:
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BewareofDawg
09-27-2007, 01:33 PM
His reasoning for it seems pretty well-intentioned, I just read his blog. He's right there are good stories in the bible regardless of your religion. And like he said, nobody was forced to read it.
That all being said, it's odd for him to do and I wonder if it was just to add a little more drama to the show.
I think Hughes is clearly coming off as the better guy and more likeable guy on the show. He is acting much more professional and just coming off as more confident.
safe_pa
09-27-2007, 02:24 PM
I thought matt hughes was a prick before this new series of TUF started, he just bugs the shit outta me, don't get me wrong I respect his skill but just can't stand him as a person.
People don't have to mention religion to be an ass, hughes is proof of this.
achillesthegreat
09-27-2007, 03:32 PM
So all he done was give them a bible each and talked to them about a story.
Hardly the end of the world is it? Maybe he feels close enough to them now to share his religious beliefs.
I've never see Hughes flaunt his religion like Holyfield for example.
Hawks28
09-27-2007, 04:07 PM
Yeah, I'd like to see it happen too, but I doubt it will.
I'm sick of how much of the show is being taken up by the guido whimp that Serra brought with him. Let him go home and marry the girl that he was just wondering about cheating on him and move on to something less fucking lame.
thats what Im saying. Im sick of that guy. I couldnt believe when they showed the preview of next weeks episode, and this clown is still whining and a lot of the focus is on him. Just send the fuckin guy home already. I cant believe this shit is gonna continue next week.
And yeah, that bible reading shit by Hughes was pretty stupid. I love how he said you dont have to read it, then when that one guy, Mac I think, didnt want to read it, Hughes comes up to him, taps him on the shoulder and says "You dont have to read it, but you really should, its a good story, you should read it." Shut the fuck up Hughes, dont try and force it on people. I was okay with the bible reading thing until that part. LMAO @ "I just like helping people, I could quit fighting today and go work in a nursing home." Sure Matt.
concrete sledge
09-27-2007, 04:24 PM
If a coach on the show busted out the Koran and said, "you don't have to read it, but it's got some interesting stories in it", the majority of you would walk out in disgust.
Keep your religious shit to yourself, especially when you SKIP training to push it on others.
Burundanga
09-27-2007, 07:08 PM
The Bible is a pack of parables nothing more. Those who invoke that silly book are largely uneducated and probably haven't even read it.
Matt Hughes is the Queen! Don't mess with him! Hahahahahahahaha.
cross_trainer
09-27-2007, 09:55 PM
The Bible is a pack of parables nothing more. Those who invoke that silly book are largely uneducated and probably haven't even read it.
Many who invoke the Bible are not theologians, and don't really understand Biblical history. But many who invoke science are not scientists, and cannot think according to the scientific method. In short, most people don't know what they're talking about regardless of whether they're religious or atheist.
It's foolish, in my opinion, to categorize six billionpeople like you are doing on the basis of one factor (religion) that most of them share anyway, and have shared for their entire history.
Burundanga
09-28-2007, 04:37 AM
Many who invoke the Bible are not theologians, and don't really understand Biblical history. But many who invoke science are not scientists, and cannot think according to the scientific method. In short, most people don't know what they're talking about regardless of whether they're religious or atheist.
It's foolish, in my opinion, to categorize six billionpeople like you are doing on the basis of one factor (religion) that most of them share anyway, and have shared for their entire history.
And billion'sof children believe in the Easter Bunny.
I've read more than 100 books on the subject of religion and religion's detractors with an open mind but not a mind open enough for my brain to fall out.
I'll say no more on the subject. This discussion does not belong here and I do not wish to further offend.
Moon Cricket
09-28-2007, 04:58 AM
I felt uncomfortable when he aproched Mac about not reading it.
EL BULLY
09-28-2007, 10:36 AM
The Hughes Serra fights is a first for me as I want both guys to lose.
ufoalf
09-28-2007, 10:48 AM
And billion'sof children believe in the Easter Bunny.
I've read more than 100 books on the subject of religion and religion's detractors with an open mind but not a mind open enough for my brain to fall out.
I'll say no more on the subject. This discussion does not belong here and I do not wish to further offend.
I don't want to continue the discussion but since you're so well read, do you believe in higher power that some may call "god"? Just answer yes or no, no need to further thsi discussion.
Wilhelm
09-28-2007, 11:12 AM
The Hughes Serra fights is a first for me as I want both guys to lose.:lol:
Half-Dane
09-28-2007, 12:03 PM
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hahahaha....he better prey he doesn't meet up with GSP again
Boinko
09-28-2007, 01:18 PM
hahahaha....he better prey he doesn't meet up with GSP again
Well, he almost certainly will as I don't see him losing to Serra, and GSP will be the #1 contender. Expect that match earlier next year!
cross_trainer
09-28-2007, 01:31 PM
And billion'sof children believe in the Easter Bunny.
I've read more than 100 books on the subject of religion and religion's detractors with an open mind but not a mind open enough for my brain to fall out.
I'll say no more on the subject. This discussion does not belong here and I do not wish to further offend.
The question isn't whether the belief is correct, it's whether holding that belief suggests you're uneducated or stupid. It doesn't.
Since you do not want to carry on the discussion, I will leave it at that.
cross_trainer
09-28-2007, 01:31 PM
The Hughes Serra fights is a first for me as I want both guys to lose.
Then you'll be disappointed no matter what the outcome. :D
EL BULLY
09-28-2007, 03:50 PM
Then you'll be disappointed no matter what the outcome. :D
I know I will.
They are opposite ends of the 'why some Americans are annoying' spectrum.
Serra is a loudmouth, classless and brash dumbass and Hughes is a self righteous, broom-stick-up-the-ass, hillbilly ass hole.
Together they cover all the American stereotypes that annoy the fuck out of everyone else in the world.
This is not attack on USA by the way, just those two pricks and the minority that they seem to embody. It would be the same if in the UK a football hooligan was matched up against a chinless upper class aristocrat, if that makes sense???:nut
cross_trainer
09-28-2007, 04:23 PM
This is not attack on USA by the way, just those two pricks and the minority that they seem to embody. It would be the same if in the UK a football hooligan was matched up against a chinless upper class aristocrat, if that makes sense???:nut
"Football is a gentleman's game played by barbarians, and Rugby is a barbarian's game played by gentlemen".
So I presume that these two hypothetical people are being matched in some ball-related sport.
cross_trainer
09-28-2007, 06:25 PM
And billion'sof children believe in the Easter Bunny.
1) Very few children believe in the Easter bunny.
2) They're young children, not fully functioning adults.
3) Among those children, you won't find a correlation between intelligence and belief in the Easter Bunny anyway.
I've read more than 100 books on the subject of religion and religion's detractors with an open mind but not a mind open enough for my brain to fall out.
There's a difference between not believing in religion and considering religious people as uneducated gullible idiots. The latter is a naive generalization.
But if you do not wish to continue the discussion, that's fine.
Wilhelm
09-28-2007, 06:38 PM
1) Very few children believe in the Easter bunny.
2) They're young children, not fully functioning adults.
3) Among those children, you won't find a correlation between intelligence and belief in the Easter Bunny anyway.
There's a difference between not believing in religion and considering religious people as uneducated gullible idiots. The latter is a naive generalization.
But if you do not wish to continue the discussion, that's fine.
Stop changing your avatar. It's confusing.
EL BULLY
09-28-2007, 06:39 PM
"Football is a gentleman's game played by barbarians, and Rugby is a barbarian's game played by gentlemen".
So I presume that these two hypothetical people are being matched in some ball-related sport.
No.
I said football hooligan, not player. Hooligans don't play football they pretend to follow it.
True upper class people would never play rugby, they'd own the pitch upon which it was played and kill a fox instead. Rugby is a middle class thing.
I fail to see the relevance of your post, and am struggling to nail down your viewpoint.
EL BULLY
09-28-2007, 06:51 PM
The question isn't whether the belief is correct, it's whether holding that belief suggests you're uneducated or stupid. It doesn't.
Since you do not want to carry on the discussion, I will leave it at that.
You're wrong. By definition holding belief in religion requires faith. Faith is when one forms an opinion that is impossible to prove/disprove by using fact and logic, rather they just 'believe'. When one believes in something that niether logic or fact confirms one is neglecting informed/ educated reasoning and therefore is displaying both uneducated and stupid qualities.
Religion is the most primitive solution to the most complex question and should never be seen as anything more than the antiquated ramblings of a lesser informed era that zealots have insisted on carrying forward to the present day for the monetary gain of their prospective organisations.
I dont watch the show but what Im getting at is, Matt told them they dont have to read it, so when one guy says he doesn't want to, you yell at matt for just getting him to read it.
If Mac said Matt I just dont want to read it a 2nd time I bet would of said Okay Thats fine, Matt did nothing wrong by trying once to tell him, its a good story that he should read.
Beebs
09-29-2007, 12:08 AM
What cracked me up was Serra asking "what if there was a Jewish guy on the team?" Well, I don't think they'd have a problem with the book of Ester since its part of their holy book.
The whole thing was weird, but some of the guys enjoyed it if for nothing more than it was at least reading material, which normally is banned.
ufoalf
09-29-2007, 12:11 AM
Is there a place i can stream it online? I missed last episode.
cross_trainer
09-29-2007, 12:32 AM
You're wrong.
No, you're wrong! So there! :D
By definition holding belief in religion requires faith. Faith is when one forms an opinion that is impossible to prove/disprove by using fact and logic, rather they just 'believe'. When one believes in something that niether logic or fact confirms one is neglecting informed/ educated reasoning and therefore is displaying both uneducated and stupid qualities.
Let me cut through the red tape with a simple example.
Me.
I am a Christian. I am also aware that my viewpoint is not provable with logic. I am aware of all of the arguments for and against, and I am capable of comprehending them. I am perfectly conscious of the fact that my beliefs are irrational--and in fact, I would be capable of creating an extremely convincing logical "refutation" of religion. It doesn't take that much brain power or knowledge, really--the Sophists were doing it 2600 years ago.
Most will agree that I am neither stupid nor uneducated. And most will also agree that there are many other Christians who are more intelligent than I am and more educated than I am.
So getting back to my original point, stereotyping six billion people on the basis of one variable is rather naive. And it's no coincidence that there aren't many social scientists doing it.
Religion is the most primitive solution to the most complex question and should never be seen as anything more than the antiquated ramblings of a lesser informed era that zealots have insisted on carrying forward to the present day for the monetary gain of their prospective organisations.
Most religious people do not profit financially from their faith, yet continue to practice and preach it.
cross_trainer
09-29-2007, 12:35 AM
No.
I said football hooligan, not player. Hooligans don't play football they pretend to follow it.
True upper class people would never play rugby, they'd own the pitch upon which it was played and kill a fox instead. Rugby is a middle class thing.
I fail to see the relevance of your post, and am struggling to nail down your viewpoint.
There wasn't really any relevance to my "rugby" post. I'm just goofing around.
As to Rugby--my knowledge of it comes from "ye olden tymes" when it was used to help shape the British Imperial administrators. I gather it has fallen out of favor with the upper classes since then?
i think it was bullshit. the Barrera guy seems to be the only religous one of the group. the rest just read it because they look up to hughes and don't want to piss him off. Mac is the man for not wanting to bend his beliefs just to please Hughes. you could tell most of them were uncomfortable with it. i really think he was pushing, in a subtle way, and i think he proved it when he went after Mac.
this is a hoot this year..the coaches, matt sera and mat hughes detest each other......and last nights episode seen the best quote iv heard from a defeated fighter.....the guy was submitted by rear naked choke and after the fight quipped..." i was so dissapointed in myself that i tapped, i should have let myself go to lala land and had a nice dream about fat hookers and a latino midget".....you cant write that shit!!
skier47
10-03-2007, 02:16 AM
No, you're wrong! So there! :D
Let me cut through the red tape with a simple example.
Me.
I am a Christian. I am also aware that my viewpoint is not provable with logic. I am aware of all of the arguments for and against, and I am capable of comprehending them. I am perfectly conscious of the fact that my beliefs are irrational--and in fact, I would be capable of creating an extremely convincing logical "refutation" of religion. It doesn't take that much brain power or knowledge, really--the Sophists were doing it 2600 years ago.
Most will agree that I am neither stupid nor uneducated. And most will also agree that there are many other Christians who are more intelligent than I am and more educated than I am.
So getting back to my original point, stereotyping six billion people on the basis of one variable is rather naive. And it's no coincidence that there aren't many social scientists doing it.
Most religious people do not profit financially from their faith, yet continue to practice and preach it.
You are obviously, like many Christians I have met both articulate
and intelligent. Heck, I'm going to google "Sophists" later to find
out more about those folks. However, intelligent and articulate
people can also be delusional in some of their beliefs. I'm sure
you've run across folks who seem very bright and well-read but
adamantly believe earth is being visited by aliens in UFO's on
a regular basis. You might wonder how can this guy perform
well in life and seem so rational in so many ways and yet believe
this UFO tripe. That's how alot of us agnostics and athiests view
religious people like yourself. I don't believe in an invisible God,
a supernatural Jesus any more than I believe in the existence of
elves or fairies. No objective evidence of either. Anyhow Matt
Serra is the biggest creep of the two coaches. He banned GSP
from his jujitsu training facility because he took offense at something
the classy George may have said. Unbelievably childish and petty.
iksrtfo
10-03-2007, 01:35 PM
No, you're wrong! So there! :D
Let me cut through the red tape with a simple example.
Me.
I am a Christian. I am also aware that my viewpoint is not provable with logic. I am aware of all of the arguments for and against, and I am capable of comprehending them. I am perfectly conscious of the fact that my beliefs are irrational--and in fact, I would be capable of creating an extremely convincing logical "refutation" of religion. It doesn't take that much brain power or knowledge, really--the Sophists were doing it 2600 years ago.
Most will agree that I am neither stupid nor uneducated. And most will also agree that there are many other Christians who are more intelligent than I am and more educated than I am.
So getting back to my original point, stereotyping six billion people on the basis of one variable is rather naive. And it's no coincidence that there aren't many social scientists doing it.
Most religious people do not profit financially from their faith, yet continue to practice and preach it.
Damn CT, you really are a smart logical guy.
That is hard to find here.
cross_trainer
10-03-2007, 01:38 PM
You are obviously, like many Christians I have met both articulate
and intelligent. Heck, I'm going to google "Sophists" later to find
out more about those folks. However, intelligent and articulate
people can also be delusional in some of their beliefs. I'm sure
you've run across folks who seem very bright and well-read but
adamantly believe earth is being visited by aliens in UFO's on
a regular basis. You might wonder how can this guy perform
well in life and seem so rational in so many ways and yet believe
this UFO tripe. That's how alot of us agnostics and athiests view
religious people like yourself.
You see us as mostly logical, intelligent people with a single irrational belief? Yeah, I can live with that. Pretty much what I was getting at.
cross_trainer
10-03-2007, 01:39 PM
Damn CT, you really are a smart logical guy.
That is hard to find here.
Why thank you. :good
Shareef
10-03-2007, 02:59 PM
Honestly i don't see the big deal about the subject. So what Matt Hughes asked his team to read the bible. I am not a christian but if he asked me to read a particular story i would read it and out of curiousity anyhow. If someone didn't want to read it thats fine but it is not a big deal that Hughes asked his members to read the Bible its been blown out of proportion.
ufoalf
10-03-2007, 05:33 PM
Honestly i don't see the big deal about the subject. So what Matt Hughes asked his team to read the bible. I am not a christian but if he asked me to read a particular story i would read it and out of curiousity anyhow. If someone didn't want to read it thats fine but it is not a big deal that Hughes asked his members to read the Bible its been blown out of proportion.
Because they are fighters? They need training and not a reading class. Hughes' personal believes get in the way of their preparation for the fights. Some guys get as little as few days of practice before they fight. They NEED every minute of little training they get.
concrete sledge
10-03-2007, 06:29 PM
Honestly i don't see the big deal about the subject. So what Matt Hughes asked his team to read the bible. I am not a christian but if he asked me to read a particular story i would read it and out of curiousity anyhow. If someone didn't want to read it thats fine but it is not a big deal that Hughes asked his members to read the Bible its been blown out of proportion.
What if your coach was Muslim and he asked you to read a few chapters of the Koran?
I say, keep your god-damned religious shit to yourself and do what you're SUPPOSED to be doing...training.
Beebs
10-03-2007, 06:48 PM
Because they are fighters? They need training and not a reading class. Hughes' personal believes get in the way of their preparation for the fights. Some guys get as little as few days of practice before they fight. They NEED every minute of little training they get.
I guarentee Hughes was pushing those guys harder than they ever had been pushed before, he's known for really pushing the guys he coaches to the breaking point.
ufoalf
10-03-2007, 07:03 PM
I guarentee Hughes was pushing those guys harder than they ever had been pushed before, he's known for really pushing the guys he coaches to the breaking point.
Yea, I'm sure he has, but thats not the point. You can't make up in training time that they lose regardless. Those guys did NOT come there to read books. There are other ways to inspire people. Either way, that was complete waste of time whether you are christian or not.
cross_trainer
10-03-2007, 10:16 PM
Trying to look at this objectively....
What if Hughes asked them to read a Greek myth for inspiration?
ufoalf
10-03-2007, 10:49 PM
Trying to look at this objectively....
What if Hughes asked them to read a Greek myth for inspiration?
Not sure if it's directed to me or not but that is missing MY point. I don't care if he made them read Dr. Seuss. It is waste of time. If you want to inspire them, talk to them. That should be one of the characteristic of good coaching - ability to motivate the coompetitor.
Reading inspirational stuff should be done by fighter at his OWN will at his OWN time. What this ends up doing is Hughes is trying tomotivatethem to read.
Do you really think these guys give a f**k about who's Hughes in the book? What is this, critical reading class? There will be one or 2 guys tops out of 10 who are actually interested in this. For other's its waste of time.
cross_trainer
10-03-2007, 10:58 PM
Not sure if it's directed to me or not but that is missing MY point. I don't care if he made them read Dr. Seuss. It is waste of time. If you want to inspire them, talk to them. That should be one of the characteristic of good coaching - ability to motivate the coompetitor.
Reading inspirational stuff should be done by fighter at his OWN will at his OWN time. What this ends up doing is Hughes is trying tomotivatethem to read..
It was a general question rather than being directed at any individual.
But I would disagree with you on this one--stories and other types of literature can be just as inspirational as pep-talks, and are usually less cliched. There are many books, short stories, and even a few poems that I find inspiring, but I can't call to mind many great speeches that have changed my way of thinking.
cross_trainer
10-03-2007, 11:13 PM
You have to wonder what he's like in real life, you almost think he's like some kind of supergenius from hearing him on here.
I'm actually a deformed midget with halitosis, who has developed an internet personality after giving up hope of normal human interaction.
Good guess, though.
Beebs
10-03-2007, 11:22 PM
Theres 24 hours in a day, you can only train so many of them until you burn out, we have no idea if that cut into practice time at all, he could have very well had them train just as much or more than normal following that. There are only three places the fighters are allowed to be, the gym, the dr, and the house.
I highly, highly doubt that Hughes, who's team said it seemed like the coaches were trying to break them practices were so hard, shorted his fighters on any training. He probably just gave them an extra hour out of the house to read, something they cannot do in the house, and something they would not have been able to do if it was another book.
ufoalf
10-03-2007, 11:27 PM
It was a general question rather than being directed at any individual.
But I would disagree with you on this one--stories and other types of literature can be just as inspirational as pep-talks, and are usually less cliched. There are many books, short stories, and even a few poems that I find inspiring, but I can't call to mind many great speeches that have changed my way of thinking.
Yes, it can be inspirational, I'm not denying that. On your OWN time. This is not something that should be assigned. This is something that should be advised for free time reading.
Lance Armostrong's War can be VERY inspirational book. If you're a coach you shouldn't assign that book when ur fighter has a week before your fight. Books that change your view on great scale are not meant to be read in a day. They must be digested. When you're trying to train 200% 3 times a day, the book is not what you're going to be worried about.
I'll agree with you about pep-talks though, i find it not work on many people. Some personalities are just in a different mind set to get motivated by pep-talks. Especially when the speaker is not well versed. Pep-talks never got me fired up. Looking at my teammates and my coach before I go out did a much better job.
cross_trainer
10-03-2007, 11:34 PM
Yes, it can be inspirational, I'm not denying that. On your OWN time. This is not something that should be assigned. This is something that should be advised for free time reading.
Lance Armostrong's War can be VERY inspirational book. If you're a coach you shouldn't assign that book when ur fighter has a week before your fight. Books that change your view on great scale are not meant to be read in a day. They must be digested. When you're trying to train 200% 3 times a day, the book is not what you're going to be worried about.
I'll agree with you about pep-talks though, i find it not work on many people. Some personalities are just in a different mind set to get motivated by pep-talks. Especially when the speaker is not well versed. Pep-talks never got me fired up. Looking at my teammates and my coach before I go out did a much better job.
Eh, assigned reading has its place too...especially if you have some downtime as most athletes do. I'd actually think that a combination of inspiring reading, tough training, a few pep-talks, and some relaxation/breathing exercises would be ideal to create fighting spirit. Immerse the guy in training and inspiration.
Personally, I'd try psyching my fighters up with a few stories from Norse mythology. Assigned reading or not, anybody who didn't get pumped up from that must be comatose. :D
ufoalf
10-03-2007, 11:34 PM
I highly, highly doubt that Hughes, who's team said it seemed like the coaches were trying to break them practices were so hard, shorted his fighters on any training. He probably just gave them an extra hour out of the house to read, something they cannot do in the house, and something they would not have been able to do if it was another book.
Would you honestly say that if you trained 3 times a day at full capacity you would be reading a book in between?
Dunno, for me something that supposed to inspirational will take concentration. After training I'd just wanna chill, watch a movie or do something that just relaxes your mind.
cross_trainer
10-03-2007, 11:37 PM
Would you honestly say that if you trained 3 times a day at full capacity you would be reading a book in between?
It's helped me in the past in a variety of tough situations (reading in general, not just the Bible). Perhaps it's just a matter of different tastes.
Dunno, for me something that supposed to inspirational will take concentration. After training I'd just wanna chill, watch a movie or do something that just relaxes your mind.
And of course, movies would be another aspect of the psychological training. Something either with a warrior ethos or some sort of deeper meaning would do nicely.
ufoalf
10-03-2007, 11:38 PM
Eh, assigned reading has its place too...especially if you have some downtime as most athletes do. I'd actually think that a combination of inspiring reading, tough training, a few pep-talks, and some relaxation/breathing exercises would be ideal to create fighting spirit. Immerse the guy in training and inspiration.
Personally, I'd try psyching my fighters up with a few stories from Norse mythology. Assigned reading or not, anybody who didn't get pumped up from that must be comatose. :D
Something like breathing/relaxation exercises i can understand. That would relieve the stress and help with overall mentality.
Maybe it's just not for me reading in between hard training. From the responses from fighters, I don't think it was for them either.
Morning training, relaxing, then reading in the evening with a cup of tea or something is more like it. But when you're training 3 times a day giving everything its a little stressing to read afterwards IMHO.
cross_trainer
10-03-2007, 11:40 PM
Something like breathing/relaxation exercises i can understand. That would relieve the stress and help with overall mentality.
Maybe it's just not for me reading in between hard training. From the responses from fighters, I don't think it was for them either.
Morning training, relaxing, then reading in the evening with a cup of tea or something is more like it. But when you're training 3 times a day giving everything its a little stressing to read afterwards IMHO.
Perhaps the point is that Matt misread his audience. It probably would have worked if he was dealing with men closer to himself in temperament.
ufoalf
10-03-2007, 11:42 PM
Perhaps the point is that Matt misread his audience. It probably would have worked if he was dealing with men closer to himself in temperament.
I'll go with it being personality based. I'll also agree with you on Matt's misreading his team. There was couple of people who were geniually interested but many of them were laughing it off.
Beebs
10-03-2007, 11:43 PM
Would you honestly say that if you trained 3 times a day at full capacity you would be reading a book in between?
Dunno, for me something that supposed to inspirational will take concentration. After training I'd just wanna chill, watch a movie or do something that just relaxes your mind.
You can't watch a movie, you can't have any reading material, you can't watch tv, you can't have access to any media of any kind.
Hughes got special permission for them to read something, If I had no form of media whatsoever, I would read whatever anybody put in front of me.
cross_trainer
10-03-2007, 11:43 PM
I'll go with it being personality based. I'll also agree with you on Matt's misreading his team. There was couple of people who were geniually interested but many of them were laughing it off.
Well, nobody's ever accused Matt of being overly sensitive to his team's preferences. :yep
cross_trainer
10-03-2007, 11:44 PM
You can't watch a movie, you can't have any reading material, you can't watch tv, you can't have access to any media of any kind.
Now that's just ridiculous.
It also drastically changes the equation, now that I consider it...
ufoalf
10-04-2007, 03:26 AM
Now that's just ridiculous.
It also drastically changes the equation, now that I consider it...
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