View Full Version : Helinus, Glaskov, and Pulev
Mendoza
12-02-2009, 08:43 PM
Helinus seems to excellent size good size, and good power.
Glazkov seems to be an all arounder with size, skills, power and speed, but perhaps nothing extra ordinary.
Pulev has top technical boxing skills, speed, and more power than I initially thought.
Can any of these three young guns be as good as Chagaev or Ibragimov?
Cachibatches
12-02-2009, 10:09 PM
Well, I am very impressed by Puleev. A lot of guys on here probably know more about him than I do, but he has amatuer wins over Solis and Timurziev. At 6'4, with fine boxing skills, and apparenlty some power, he will go as far as his chin will take him.
You got to like a guy who fought Olukun in his third pro fight.
I have hopes for Helenius too, even though a lot of guys say he is nothing special, he also seems to have size, power,a nd confidence.
kenmore
12-02-2009, 11:53 PM
Helinus seems to excellent size good size, and good power.
Glazkov seems to be an all arounder with size, skills, power and speed, but perhaps nothing extra ordinary.
Pulev has top technical boxing skills, speed, and more power than I initially thought.
Can any of these three young guns be as good as Chagaev or Ibragimov?
I think we'd need to see Glazkov against a solid "B" level fighter (i.e., a competent clubfighter with a winning record who has proven himself in good losing efforts against world or semi-world class fighters) before we can judge his abilities.
We don't really know his abilities for now, because anyone can look great against "D" or "D" level opposition.
Just consider Tyson Fury as example. Until he fought McDermitt, Fury was looking like another Klitschko brother: a big, strong guy with talent and overwhelming power. Against McDermitt, however, it was established that Fury is not a big banger, and his athletic ability and talent are not especially impressive either.
An opposite example is Odlanier Solis. We knew Solis was the goods immediately when he dumped the very tough and competent Alexei Mazikin in one round.
So, I'm witholding judgment on Glazkov for now, although I think they look very promising for now.
I'll answer for Pulev and Helenius in a separate post because both of them have already proven themselves against solid "B" level opposition (to say the least).
kenmore
12-02-2009, 11:59 PM
Helinus seems to excellent size good size, and good power.
Glazkov seems to be an all arounder with size, skills, power and speed, but perhaps nothing extra ordinary.
Pulev has top technical boxing skills, speed, and more power than I initially thought.
Can any of these three young guns be as good as Chagaev or Ibragimov?
As for Helenius and Pulev, it's impressive that they've fought such tough opposition so early in their career. As mentioned above, Pulev beat the Nigerian fighter who had recent defeated Lamon Brewster. That's an impressive accomplishment for Pulev, who had just two pro fights going into the bout.
I would have to see the film of Pulev before I could make a final judgment. He does however seem promising.
Helenius is impressive because he TKO'd Bidenko recently, which is a big win for a guy with less than 10 pro fights under his belt.
I like Helenius's capacity to use his height and reach to his advantage. His jab is excellent, and he puts his punches together impressively. I also liked the way Helenius maintained control of the distance between himself and Bidenko in that bout.
Helenius also seems to have respectable athleticism and fluidity of movement. He may have the capacity to establish himself as a bonafide world contender before the end of 2011.
Mendoza
12-03-2009, 07:40 AM
I think we'd need to see Glazkov against a solid "B" level fighter (i.e., a competent clubfighter with a winning record who has proven himself in good losing efforts against world or semi-world class fighters) before we can judge his abilities.
We don't really know his abilities for now, because anyone can look great against "D" or "D" level opposition.
Just consider Tyson Fury as example. Until he fought McDermitt, Fury was looking like another Klitschko brother: a big, strong guy with talent and overwhelming power. Against McDermitt, however, it was established that Fury is not a big banger, and his athletic ability and talent are not especially impressive either.
An opposite example is Odlanier Solis. We knew Solis was the goods immediately when he dumped the very tough and competent Alexei Mazikin in one round.
So, I'm witholding judgment on Glazkov for now, although I think they look very promising for now.
I'll answer for Pulev and Helenius in a separate post because both of them have already proven themselves against solid "B" level opposition (to say the least).
Glazkov was the most proven of the bunch in the amatuers. He could give Cammarelle a solid fight. I'm sold on Glazkov's power and chin.
Vysotsky
12-03-2009, 07:58 AM
I think we'd need to see Glazkov against a solid "B" level fighter (i.e., a competent clubfighter with a winning record who has proven himself in good losing efforts against world or semi-world class fighters) before we can judge his abilities.
We don't really know his abilities for now, because anyone can look great against "D" or "D" level opposition.
Just consider Tyson Fury as example. Until he fought McDermitt, Fury was looking like another Klitschko brother: a big, strong guy with talent and overwhelming power. Against McDermitt, however, it was established that Fury is not a big banger, and his athletic ability and talent are not especially impressive either.
An opposite example is Odlanier Solis. We knew Solis was the goods immediately when he dumped the very tough and competent Alexei Mazikin in one round.
So, I'm witholding judgment on Glazkov for now, although I think they look very promising for now.
I'll answer for Pulev and Helenius in a separate post because both of them have already proven themselves against solid "B" level opposition (to say the least).
I agree we have to wait till he steps up the compitition until we really know what he's capable of but please don't compare him to tyson fury.
In the Amateurs Glazkov was world class.
Glazkov was the most proven of the bunch in the amatuers. He could give Cammarelle a solid fight. I'm sold on Glazkov's power and chin.
Agreed, definitley has the goods, in the 3rd round he didn't drop him but stunned Cammarelle and gave him a standing 8, exciting fight.
Vyacheslav is not hesitant to mix it up, throws in combo's and has a good chin.
Rakhim Chakhkiev is the other guy who certainly has eveything. He's fighting at CW now and is only 6'0 - 6'1 so he would be undersized but i would like to see him at heavyweight. He'd have as much or possibly more success than Ibragimov & Chagaev did who are around the same size.
Alcaldemb
12-04-2009, 12:12 PM
I am ok with Chakhiev at cruiser. The division, since it now tops out at 200, can host a lot of talent.
Pulev has been very impressive thus fas. He is clearly a talented fighter with a solid punch and great size, 6'4" and 235-240 allows him to match up physically with just about any heavy. His win over Gbenga in his third fight is also something to take notice of. I have pretty high hopes for Pulev, as I think he can do some damage.
Glazkov was without any doubt the most accomplised amateur fighter of them,but up to now he hasnt impressed me much at the pros.
Helenius showed a quite convincing performance against Bidenko,but I am still not sold on him.
I will wait and see how he fares against his next 2-3 opponents.He has obviously improved a lot since he moved over to Berlin to train under the authoritarian guidance of the iron "German Fritz",Sauerland's headcoach,Wegner.
So far Pulev has impressively battled his way through enemy territory.
To beat someone like Gbenga the way he did dominating every round of his encounter with the Nigerian olympian deservers respect. Well done job! :good
Mendoza
03-12-2010, 06:57 AM
Glazkov fights soon.
Brickhaus
03-12-2010, 06:04 PM
Pulev looks like he could well be as good as Ibragimov and Chagaev, if not better. He's the most impressive to me. Helenius seems very clumsy and unnatural to me.
Sakura
03-12-2010, 06:18 PM
Pulev looks like he could well be as good as Ibragimov and Chagaev, if not better. He's the most impressive to me. Helenius seems very clumsy and unnatural to me.
Helenius will be a best by far. Believe me...
Vysotsky
03-12-2010, 09:56 PM
Pulev looks like he could well be as good as Ibragimov and Chagaev, if not better. He's the most impressive to me. Helenius seems very clumsy and unnatural to me.
Helenius at first glance looks unimpressive & unathletic but i really do think he's legit. I'm always suprised when he unleashes that right hand, it's so fast and so hard i'm shocked every time i see it. He loves throwing it downstaires too which is weird, very effective though.
Someone on here said a fight between him and Boytsov has been mentioned which would be interesting to say the least.
Glazkov is fighting tonight in the Dominican Republic, lol wtf?
Cachibatches
03-12-2010, 11:03 PM
Add Gerber on here since this thread was started.
Its very nice to have some good prospects out there.
Mendoza
03-13-2010, 07:02 AM
Helenius at first glance looks unimpressive & unathletic but i really do think he's legit. I'm always suprised when he unleashes that right hand, it's so fast and so hard i'm shocked every time i see it. He loves throwing it downstaires too which is weird, very effective though.
Someone on here said a fight between him and Boytsov has been mentioned which would be interesting to say the least.
Glazkov is fighting tonight in the Dominican Republic, lol wtf?
Glazkov in the Dominican repbulic? Maybe he likes the cigars!
I have the feeling that all three of these guys ( Pulev, Helinus, and Glaskov ) are going to be better than Dimitrenko and Krasniqui.
The question is, can any of the three surpass Chagaev or Ibragimov in terms of accomplishments?
Vysotsky
03-14-2010, 05:58 PM
Vyacheslav Glazkov beat American journeyman Ramon Hayes (15–29–1, 10KOs) via 3rd TKO
The weights aren't listed on boxrec but i heard that he's put on some weight and is at 230lbs now, from about 220.
Mendoza
03-15-2010, 07:42 AM
Vyacheslav Glazkov beat American journeyman Ramon Hayes (15–29–1, 10KOs) via 3rd TKO
The weights aren't listed on boxrec but i heard that he's put on some weight and is at 230lbs now, from about 220.
Glazkov has the right type of build and frame to add 10 pounds of muscle without losing flexibility, speed and stamina.
Butch Coolidge
03-17-2010, 11:26 PM
Pulev seems to be the most tactically sound boxer out of the newcomers.
Helinius seems to have the biggest punch but I think there's a possibility he may not be able to put a combination of punches together like Pulev.
Glazkov, I need to see some more of him in action. Nothing automatically comes to mind when I think about his previous fights that I saw.
Helenius is very stiff and rigid. Looks completely unnatural as an athlete and lacking in any fluidity to his movement or punches.
He does seem to have a dig on him and uses his physical assets to an extent so its not all bad. He punches nice and straight. I'd love to see him do well, being a Nordic heavyweight.
Pulev does look a talent.
Mendoza
03-18-2010, 06:57 AM
Pulev seems to be the most tactically sound boxer out of the newcomers.
Helinius seems to have the biggest punch but I think there's a possibility he may not be able to put a combination of punches together like Pulev.
Glazkov, I need to see some more of him in action. Nothing automatically comes to mind when I think about his previous fights that I saw.
Here is Glazkov's debut vs a 15-5-1 fighter who was on a winning streak.
Glazkov has already bulked up to 230 pounds. I think he's one to watch.
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