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Beebs
12-05-2009, 11:06 PM
That was one of the clearest fights ever, anybody with a brain scores that 29-28 for Houston. Kimbo won round 2 big, but not 10-8 big. Rounds 1 and 3 were clear as day for Houston; I don't care how strange or "afraid" he fought, he landed over and over with leg kicks, most were light but some were solid, one was brutal. In the punching he gave at least as good as he got.

Did Kimbo even land double digit strikes in rounds one and three combined? Did he land anything at all in round 1?

Robbery. Houston should have just gone for the KO, but that doesn't mean you screw him and give the loser of the fight the win just because Houston underperformed.

Tuffnutz
12-05-2009, 11:09 PM
Alexander sucked balls so so i have no problem with Kimbo winning based on what he did in round 2.

Flexb
12-05-2009, 11:10 PM
Ya, I think Houston was in survival mode from round one lol

Beebs
12-05-2009, 11:13 PM
Alexander sucked balls so so i have no problem with Kimbo winning based on what he did in round 2.

That's not how it works, that wasn't a 10-8 round, and even if it was it should have been a draw. Houston so clearly won two horrible boring rounds, but he still won two rounds. The leg kicks were weak, but the punching was even, and in the third he got the much better of everything.

Totomabs
12-05-2009, 11:13 PM
houston was literally running scared from round 1 onwards..

Fighting Pride
12-05-2009, 11:17 PM
Lol, what's with this trend lately people favoring guys who don't fight in close decisions. This is not amateur boxing where you can tap and run to score points. What Houston Alexander did for the whole fight was the equivalent of what Oscar did against Tito in the championship rounds of their famous fight. Alexander may have won a marathon tonight, but he didn't win any fight.

The only robbery was Matt Hamill getting the DQ win

Beebs
12-05-2009, 11:20 PM
What the hell are you talking about? Yes he circled endlessly, but as a result of that Kimbo did nothing.

A bunch of bad leg kicks > nothing. What did Kimbo do to win round one or three? Yes Houston was an idiot and didn't really do much but yet again, not much is still more than absolutely nothing.

kel
12-05-2009, 11:32 PM
What the hell are you talking about? Yes he circled endlessly, but as a result of that Kimbo did nothing.

A bunch of bad leg kicks > nothing. What did Kimbo do to win round one or three? Yes Houston was an idiot and didn't really do much but yet again, not much is still more than absolutely nothing.


I sort of agree with u, Houston won a very boring rd 1 just and also rd 3. Problem is Kimbo won rd 2 really big(not 10-8 tho) and people think he won the fight.

But wasn't unhappy with Kimbo getting the win cos Houston was pissing me off with all that circling.

jimmie
12-06-2009, 12:11 AM
Horrible decision first off how did Kimbo possibly earn a 30-27 win ? Kimbo threw maybe 3 strikes in the 1st round while Houston connected with kick after kick after kick no matter if they where weak or not Houston LANDED THE ONLY STRIKES IN ROUND 1. Kimbo wins round 2 of course but what the fuck was it with the announcers ? Kimbo had no clue how to finish from mount or back control but the announcers where going apeshit about his ground game. Round 3 Houston KD Kimbo with a leg kick and nearly KD Kimbo agian with 5 secounds left he landed all the effective shots in that round. When it went 15 minutes though I knew Kimbo would get the decision these judges had there mind made up in advance.

WiDDoW_MaKeR
12-06-2009, 12:15 AM
I felt that Kimbo won. Houston pretty much did nothing. You can't win the fight on a few leg kicks. Kimbo should have easily been given a 10-8 round in round 2 as well.

Monoxide
12-06-2009, 12:23 AM
I thought Kimbo won the last two rounds. The first round was close with neither fighting doing nothing.

rekcutnevets
12-06-2009, 12:24 AM
I was too frustrated watching Kimbo not jab to score the 1st or 3rd fairly. I thought the leg kick was more of sweep than a debilitating blow, but Alexander did buzz Kimbo near the end of the round.

I also thought Kimbo won the 2nd round 10-8. Domination is what warrants a 2 point difference, and that is what Kimbo did. Kimbo won that round bigger than any round Alexander could have won. How could it not warrant a 10-8?

Sammie
12-06-2009, 01:08 AM
Houston looked scared as hell in the first round. Kimbo definitely won the last two rounds. They both sucked though. Worst fight of the night.

AJAX
12-06-2009, 01:25 AM
That's not how it works, that wasn't a 10-8 round, and even if it was it should have been a draw. Houston so clearly won two horrible boring rounds, but he still won two rounds. The leg kicks were weak, but the punching was even, and in the third he got the much better of everything.

If you give Houston round 1 which was possible even though he read kalib starnes how too mma book, Kimbo should easilly get a 10-8 round. That's the whole prob with mma scoring if 10-8 rounds arn't given when they should.

Kimbo deserved the fight more then Houston easily. I couldn't how much Houston was running I really wasn't expecting that.

AJAX
12-06-2009, 01:28 AM
I was too frustrated watching Kimbo not jab to score the 1st or 3rd fairly. I thought the leg kick was more of sweep than a debilitating blow, but Alexander did buzz Kimbo near the end of the round.

I also thought Kimbo won the 2nd round 10-8. Domination is what warrants a 2 point difference, and that is what Kimbo did. Kimbo won that round bigger than any round Alexander could have won. How could it not warrant a 10-8?

I agree with the 10-8 round for sure. Too many guys win close rounds which could go either way and count as 10-9, so when Kimbo clearly dominated round 2 a 10 -8 score was a given.

AJAX
12-06-2009, 01:31 AM
That was one of the clearest fights ever, anybody with a brain scores that 29-28 for Houston. Kimbo won round 2 big, but not 10-8 big. Rounds 1 and 3 were clear as day for Houston; I don't care how strange or "afraid" he fought, he landed over and over with leg kicks, most were light but some were solid, one was brutal. In the punching he gave at least as good as he got.

Did Kimbo even land double digit strikes in rounds one and three combined? Did he land anything at all in round 1?

Robbery. Houston should have just gone for the KO, but that doesn't mean you screw him and give the loser of the fight the win just because Houston underperformed.

This was not day light robbery and nobody is complaining because Houston didn't deserve to win this fight.

Tko4
12-06-2009, 02:29 AM
I have no qualms with the decision. Houston did absolutely nothing, outside land one really powerful leg kick in the third round. He ran around like a wounded deer in the first round, and he got absolutely stomped in the second round. Then in the third, he tried to throw some punches, but his arms looked like cement pylons. Houston came in with the absolute worst gameplan of all times, so he deserved to lose. I think Kalib Starnes was his coach before this fight.

With that said, Kimbo gets clobbered by just about anyone in the UFC. Houston would have starched him in the first if he wasn't running around with terror in his eyes.

sugarngold
12-06-2009, 03:29 AM
I felt like Houston won the first round failrly handily. Kimbo won the second round big. I gave the third round to Kimbo because he outclowned Alexander when he was running. Overall I was really disappointed that Houston chose not to come out guns ablazing like Marvin Hagler in the first round against Thomas Hearns. Missed opportunity for him. Congratz to Kimbo on the win. I thought he showed improvement. His time at ATT seems to be paying off.

achillesthegreat
12-06-2009, 08:54 AM
I think Kimbo won the 2nd and 3rd. In the 3rd I think Kimbo stunned him on 3 or 4 occassions.

achillesthegreat
12-06-2009, 08:55 AM
PS - I'm suprised that Houston didn't have the balls to try and break Kimbo's chin or test him on the ground. We are talking about a guy who has shown glaring weaknesses in both areas.

Rattler
12-06-2009, 09:41 AM
PS - I'm suprised that Houston didn't have the balls to try and break Kimbo's chin or test him on the ground. We are talking about a guy who has shown glaring weaknesses in both areas.

I honestly think he spent the first few minutes of the first waiting for the patented Kimbo charge. Finally, he tried a little offense, but was in a circling rut and never wanted to get out of it. Luckily for him, Kimbo still has little clue about how to cut off the cage and work his way into range.

196osh
12-06-2009, 09:54 AM
No way was this a robbery. Kimbo won a close fight.

paloalto00
12-06-2009, 01:15 PM
Maybe I missed something.... cause I saw Kimbo dominating 2nd round, and won the 3rd soundly

rekcutnevets
12-06-2009, 01:44 PM
The first and third rounds were close because there was so little to score. I gave the first to Houston on pretty much nothing but leg kicks. The 2nd round was clearly Kimbo's.

I thought Kimbo got the slight better of Houston standing up in the 3rd. I don't think the leg kick was a knock down. Kimbo had little weight on it due to the kicks delivered earlier in the fight, and it looked more like a sweep to me. I considered it to be a take down more than a knock down. Kimbo evened that with a takedown of his own, and Kimbo got the better of the sloppy ground work.

codeman99998
12-06-2009, 01:57 PM
I remember thinking that Kimbo was still winning the first round because he controlled the most space in the octagon.

I am not of the Cecil People's opinion that Leg kicks can't win fights, but I didn't think any of the strikes Houston threw in the first round did any damage at all. I don't think love taps that don't damage the other fighter in any way should be considered the same as decent leg kicks.

Then again, I only saw the fight once. I don't think I could possibly sit through it again.

What was Houston thinking trying to win a super boring decision against a guy like Slice, who would probably have a judges bias? How could he be more gunshy against Kimbo than he was against Sakara or Jardine?

jimmie
12-06-2009, 02:23 PM
PS - I'm suprised that Houston didn't have the balls to try and break Kimbo's chin or test him on the ground. We are talking about a guy who has shown glaring weaknesses in both areas.

Everyone fights like they are scared vs Kimbo I think people are so afraid of the idea of losing to this guy they actually get 100 times more nervous then any other fight. Seth looked like he shit his pants when that fight started and after but he happened to land a jab on one foot bouncing backwards that scored a KO :-( Tank looked nervous, that Bo Cantrell guy just flopped down and started tapping right away, Houston fought the complete opposite of how we know him which is usually that Wanderlei like style. Only guy who didnt buy into the Kimbo hype was Roy Nelson and he whopped on that ass.

Lightsout_Ruben
12-06-2009, 08:08 PM
I felt that Kimbo won. Houston pretty much did nothing. You can't win the fight on a few leg kicks. Kimbo should have easily been given a 10-8 round in round 2 as well.

I absolutely agree. Kimbo lost the first round do to only throwing a few punches. Kimbo won round 2 big and the third round was easily kimbos.

cdnboxing
12-06-2009, 08:09 PM
Kimbo dominated the 2nd round. Houston won the 3rd and the 1st was 10-10 simply because Alexander fought like a huge coward and didnt do shit. Kimbo is just terrible because Alexander is terrible and any remotely good striker would have got inside on Alexander and done damage.

Sweet Pea
12-07-2009, 01:43 PM
:lol:Who the hell complains about that farce of a fight being a robbery?