How did Povetkin look?

[guncho]

So has his style changed since he has teddy attlas as coach? Was he similar to tyson? Bobing and weaving?

missed the fight!

[bodhi]

He looked better than in his last outing. Very sharp, many punches, fast hands with quite some snap. He also looked improved in he defence part but not with bobbing and weaving. Head-movement was there at times but not at others. Nolan wasn't really a hard opponent though.

After the fight Atlas said he would like to have a few more fights before Klitschko.

[Mendoza]

He looked better than in his last outing. Very sharp, many punches, fast hands with quite some snap. He also looked improved in he defence part but not with bobbing and weaving. Head-movement was there at times but not at others. Nolan wasn't really a hard opponent though.

After the fight Atlas said he would like to have a few more fights before Klitschko.

IMO Povetkin is sharper in the 215-220 pound range. If he gets in there at 225+, he seems to lose some of his best stuff.

Atlas can't fix Povetkin's style, but he can make him mindfull of bad habits.
Povetkin is the type who takes to coaching well.

After the Klitschko's I tend to think Povetkin is 3rd best.

[Cachibatches]

He looked better than in his last outing. Very sharp, many punches, fast hands with quite some snap. He also looked improved in he defence part but not with bobbing and weaving. Head-movement was there at times but not at others. Nolan wasn't really a hard opponent though.

After the fight Atlas said he would like to have a few more fights before Klitschko.
Nice. Hopefully somebody with heavy hands next.

[jdroy1986]

I think he looked better but I noticed he's still very easy to hit with the jab. I don't see him beating either of the Klitschko brothers but i think he could probably beat everybody else or at least most of them.

[kenmore]

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[IntentionalButt]

What did his body look like at its lowest mass in three years? Less soft? Has he been training for strength (ie cutting fat and replacing some of it with muscle) with Teddy, or more just agility?

edit: ^ n/m :lol: :good

[IntentionalButt]

Povetkin, in that type of shape, would be a great match-up in terms of size and styles for Adamek, assuming Adamek gets by Estrada. :think

[kenmore]

Povetkin, in that type of shape, would be a great match-up in terms of size and styles for Adamek, assuming Adamek gets by Estrada. :think

Does Adamek have the upper body mass and strength to tangle with Povetkin? Most observers tend to think not, especially given that Adamek's style involves slugging.

[Flurry]

he looked good but then Nolan looked like a punching bag. Nolan didnt even try to hit him back, he stood there pretty immobile and allowed povetkin to beat him up, shaky defense, bad reflexes. In one word: Nolan did nothing. Truth be told Povetkin did look sharp but as the old saying goes, you re only as good or bad as your opponent allows you to be.

[Grecorussian]

I saw the fight from youtube. He was vey good . The opponent wasn't very strong , I must admit , but still Sascha was very good

[Flurry]

why the fuck is there no thread on Huck vs Afolabi? I have to assume there s one over in the boring general forum where i dislike posting, well, this was a euro staged fight and comments and coverage of it belong into the Euro forum.

I had it 116-112 Huck

Afo an awkward tricky and at times dirty fighter who stayed dangerous until the end. He wobbled Huck badly in the 5th with an uppercut, huck held on for dear life and was saved by the bell. Apart from that Huck earned the majority of the rounds by being more active and in typical wegner style finished a lot of rounds on a strong note pinning the lad by the ropes and flurrying him. Which made an impression on the judges obviously. He should have jabbed more, when ever he did he had success.

Cortez should have admonished the guest for constantly ducking his head low down to hiplevel when being pressured and turning his back onto Huck

[Butch Coolidge]

It's been so long since I have seen a Povetkin fight it is difficult for me to say how he has improved. I did notice that he was using his legs a little bit differently and he may have thrown left hooks to the body with the intent more to hurt than to simply score points etc. I think before the knockdowns he landed a hook or two to Nolan's body. Overall, I'd say his performance was impressive but I haven't seen Nolan fight in several years so I can't say that he had a quality opponent. Maybe a fight vs Dimitrenko could be possible. It might be a bit difficult finding opponents for Povetkin without going backwards because he has already fought an unusual amount of heavyweight hopefuls instead of journeymen types.

[Mordechai]

povetkins punches looked very sharp, good shape, and povetkins offensive arsenal is really good, he is not a puncher, but very fast and accurate. but his opponent was very bad. let's make povetkin vs peter for the interim ibf championship. both in shape, it would be a good fight

[Brickhaus]

Leo Nolan was still jabbing him with ease whenever he actually threw it. He looked slightly better, and was more aggressive on the inside, but he still isn't moving his head, and as long as he's not moving his head, he doesn't stand a chance against Wlad.

[Brickhaus]

Cortez should have admonished the guest for constantly ducking his head low down to hiplevel when being pressured and turning his back onto Huck

I think he was fair about it. Huck hit him with about 10 rabbit punches, but Afolabi kept ducking low in a way where the back of his head was exposed. He didn't warn either one.

I had it 115-113 Huck, but I think it was a pretty clear Huck victory. Afolabi was more active overall (which surprised me - usually he has a very low workrate), but he was just throwing arm punches for half the fight, and more often than not, Huck landed the more solid punches in the round.

[guncho]

thanks for replays and for vid!

[Alcaldemb]

By the way, did Pulev put a beating on Page? The Maryland State Athletic Commission would like to know before granting Page a license.

[kenmore]

Povetkin really gave Nolan a devastating beating. Still, I didn't see anything new in Povetkin.

[Flurry]

I think he was fair about it. Huck hit him with about 10 rabbit punches, but Afolabi kept ducking low in a way where the back of his head was exposed. He didn't warn either one.

I had it 115-113 Huck, but I think it was a pretty clear Huck victory. Afolabi was more active overall (which surprised me - usually he has a very low workrate), but he was just throwing arm punches for half the fight, and more often than not, Huck landed the more solid punches in the round.

thats a fair assessment mate.

Its just that I believe Huck had little choice but to rabbit punch him cos whenever he was on the attack Afolabi did what I described above, so all he presented to Huck his back and his neck, had he stayed upright and not turned away from Huck the homefighter wouldnt have rabbit punched him. At the end of the day it didnt matter, no one got injured and Huck deserved a close victory :good

Afolabi though is one dangerous fighter really, id have thought hed fade late on but all he did was working his way more and more into the fight

[bodhi]

why the fuck is there no thread on Huck vs Afolabi? I have to assume there s one over in the boring general forum where i dislike posting, well, this was a euro staged fight and comments and coverage of it belong into the Euro forum.

I had it 116-112 Huck

Afo an awkward tricky and at times dirty fighter who stayed dangerous until the end. He wobbled Huck badly in the 5th with an uppercut, huck held on for dear life and was saved by the bell. Apart from that Huck earned the majority of the rounds by being more active and in typical wegner style finished a lot of rounds on a strong note pinning the lad by the ropes and flurrying him. Which made an impression on the judges obviously. He should have jabbed more, when ever he did he had success.

Cortez should have admonished the guest for constantly ducking his head low down to hiplevel when being pressured and turning his back onto Huck

I had it 115-113 Huck but wouldn't have complained about a draw. Afolabi threw some very hard shots at times but also many arm punches. I like his style very much, reminds me a bit of some old school fighters like Archie Moore. But his showboating, clowning and interview afterwards was a disgrace.
Huck really needs to be more disciplined. He is just too hot tempered. Right now he is a Top5 cw but I expect more from guys like Alexeev and Frenkel in the future.

[Flurry]

I had it 115-113 Huck but wouldn't have complained about a draw. Afolabi threw some very hard shots at times but also many arm punches. I like his style very much, reminds me a bit of some old school fighters like Archie Moore. But his showboating, clowning and interview afterwards was a disgrace.
Huck really needs to be more disciplined. He is just too hot tempered. Right now he is a Top5 cw but I expect more from guys like Alexeev and Frenkel in the future.

Yeah his showboating was disgusting, I d agree, I dont understand these guys, if they think they can therewith belittle the impact of their opponents' shots they re mistaken cos everyone knows the moment you start grinning and shake your head "nothing happened" you ve really felt the pain. If they think they amuse the public, well most people i know dont find it very amusing, its rather irritating.

[bodhi]

Yeah his showboating was disgusting, I d agree, I dont understand these guys, if they think they can therewith belittle the impact of their opponents' shots they re mistaken cos everyone knows the moment you start grinning and shake your head "nothing happened" you ve really felt the pain. If they think they amuse the public, well most people i know dont find it very amusing, its rather irritating.

I think he wanted to provoke Huck. Huck is known to be hot tempered and lose controll, I think Afolabi wanted provoke him to a point where Huck get's himself DQed.

[Flurry]

I think he wanted to provoke Huck. Huck is known to be hot tempered and lose controll, I think Afolabi wanted provoke him to a point where Huck get's himself DQed.

Probably true, in that case we have to conclude wegner did a really good job teaching the lad some self control

[bodhi]

Probably true, in that case we have to conclude wegner did a really good job teaching the lad some self control

Yeah, I really thought Afolabi would get to him late in the fight when Huck got a bit tired. Huck certainly became more stable mentally-wise.

[fcu1]

It's been so long since I have seen a Povetkin fight it is difficult for me to say how he has improved. I did notice that he was using his legs a little bit differently and he may have thrown left hooks to the body with the intent more to hurt than to simply score points etc. I think before the knockdowns he landed a hook or two to Nolan's body. Overall, I'd say his performance was impressive but I haven't seen Nolan fight in several years so I can't say that he had a quality opponent. Maybe a fight vs Dimitrenko could be possible. It might be a bit difficult finding opponents for Povetkin without going backwards because he has already fought an unusual amount of heavyweight hopefuls instead of journeymen types.

Good post. Indeed Povetkin seemed to really want to do damage instead of just scoring points. He held his hands higher than usual and also was less stationary, he didn't stand in the same place for very long. His footwork has improved and he looked more aggressive in general.

What I still don't understand why he doesn't any taller opponents, seems like a good idea when you're after a fight with a Klitschko .

[Grecorussian]

According to his coach Sascha's next fight will be on March....

[Cachibatches]

According to his coach Sascha's next fight will be on March....
Any names mentioned? Peter? Boswell?

[Vysotsky]

Povetkin, in that type of shape, would be a great match-up in terms of size and styles for Adamek, assuming Adamek gets by Estrada. :think

That is perhaps the most exciting fight that can be made in the division. Would be epic.

povetkins punches looked very sharp, good shape, and povetkins offensive arsenal is really good, he is not a puncher, but very fast and accurate. but his opponent was very bad. let's make povetkin vs peter for the interim ibf championship. both in shape, it would be a good fight

Well he's kind of in a no man's land. He doesn't want to risk his mandatory status by possibly losing to another top fighter. At the same time he wants a few more fights under his belt to improve before he fights Klychko. How much can he really improve fighting limited opponents though.

I want to see him fight for the title already. I can't see him winning but there are so many other guys i'd love to see him square off against.

Adamek, Haye, Peter, Arreola, Boytsov, Chagaev, Tua are all guys more his size and they're all fights i'd love to see.

[kenmore]

Povetkin vs. Haye would be an excellent fight. I'd much rather see this than Povetkin against either Klitschko; it would be far more competitive. The winner of Povetkin vs. Haye would have the extra seasoning necessary to challenge one of the Klitschko brothers afterwards.

For what it's worth, I think Povetkin would be too much for Haye...too strong, too physical.

[Alcaldemb]

Povetkin vs. Haye would be an excellent fight. I'd much rather see this than Povetkin against either Klitschko; it would be far more competitive. The winner of Povetkin vs. Haye would have the extra seasoning necessary to challenge one of the Klitschko brothers afterwards.

For what it's worth, I think Povetkin would be too much for Haye...too strong, too physical.

I really wish Sauerland would just push for this fight. After Haye vs Ruiz, if Haye wins, I'd like for Povetkin to get the chance to avenge his friend and have more leverage in negotiations with Wladimir or Vitali.

[Grecorussian]

Povetkin against Haye is my second preference. My first is vs Peter for an interim belt

[fcu1]

Povetkin against Haye is my second preference. My first is vs Peter for an interim belt
If those fights fall through Sam Sexton might be another option for him to fight.

[Hank]

Oh Christ, if Atlas was not the trainer, and was commenting on fight for ESPN, we'd keep hearing him say "Soft opposition" and "He needs better opponents." Atlas will fuck him up in long run. It's the Atlas history.

[Butch Coolidge]

Oh Christ, if Atlas was not the trainer, and was commenting on fight for ESPN, we'd keep hearing him say "Soft opposition" and "He needs better opponents." Atlas will fuck him up in long run. It's the Atlas history.

I noticed that Povetkin is bending his legs a little more, getting more power in the punches, going for the body as a solid target instead of a target of opportunity and he's keeping his hands in tighter. I don't know if it will pay off in the long run, but he couldn't beat WK or VK with his old skills.

[Hank]

I noticed that Povetkin is bending his legs a little more, getting more power in the punches, going for the body as a solid target instead of a target of opportunity and he's keeping his hands in tighter. I don't know if it will pay off in the long run, but he couldn't beat WK or VK with his old skills.


Why not just say you like Atlas? He has fucked up everyone he trained. Povetkin was number one in world as pro and amateur, what is Atlas going to do for him? As if he just learned what body punching is.

[Butch Coolidge]

Why not just say you like Atlas? He has fucked up everyone he trained. Povetkin was number one in world as pro and amateur, what is Atlas going to do for him? As if he just learned what body punching is.

Atlas has had a few champion throughout the years and he is a protoge of Cus D'amato. I don't think Povetkin has a realistic chance staying 100% with his original style which would essentially mean he was trying to out-Klitschko Klitschko.

[Buddy87]

I don't know about Atlas ruining people, if anything he grabbed the ever sucky Michael Moorer ( he was sucky in heavyweights ) to give him some boxing skills and a hell of a motivational scream.

I wonder of Alexander Povetkin gets the same privledge of getting his head screamed at by Atlas if the time ever gets rough :)

Nah I don't want to see Alexander go in right away against a belt holder, I want to see him fight a contender such as Tony Thompson or Chazz witherspoon ( ya those are americans..if you know of some other contenders more suitable ) maybe Alexander Ustinov? I'm sure Povetkin's smaller height would be good for bobbing and weaving into his body though UStinov's a veteran in the fight game ( fighting pre boxing with K-1 ect. ) Yet again Vitali's time is almost up so whoever is really hungry for that belt and can smash Vitali up good in a war I think they can win it because he's looking really brittle atm.

[Butch Coolidge]

Atlas is the most succesful one out of D'amato's Catskills camp. At least as far as I know. I can't think of anybody else.

If I'm not mistaken Povetkin didn't wear any socks in his fight vs Nolan. Hmmm.

[Cachibatches]

Atlas is the most succesful one out of D'amato's Catskills camp. At least as far as I know. I can't think of anybody else.

If I'm not mistaken Povetkin didn't wear any socks in his fight vs Nolan. Hmmm.
The Dempsey look? patented by a certian Mr. Tyson?

I have always said that Povetkin seems to me to have more power than people think. The man has a 72% stoppage ratio against some good competition. In all fairness, even Povetkin's biggest fan disagreed with me and said that he was only a slightly above average puncher.

But would love to see just a little more Tyson in him. A couple of others have noted that in the Nolan fight, he seemed to set down on his punches a little more, and I believe he can do it. he has to come in with a professional mentality, dig in his toes and commit to some of those textbook hooks and sweet overhand rights.

[Sakura]

IMO Povetkin is sharper in the 215-220 pound range. If he gets in there at 225+, he seems to lose some of his best stuff.

Atlas can't fix Povetkin's style, but he can make him mindfull of bad habits.
Povetkin is the type who takes to coaching well.

After the Klitschko's I tend to think Povetkin is 3rd best.

Nothing against Povetkin..he was great amateur and his good pro, but i'll believe Helenius will beat him even this early in his career

[Vysotsky]

Good post. Indeed Povetkin seemed to really want to do damage instead of just scoring points. He held his hands higher than usual and also was less stationary, he didn't stand in the same place for very long. His footwork has improved and he looked more aggressive in general.

What I still don't understand why he doesn't any taller opponents, seems like a good idea when you're after a fight with a Klitschko .

Agreed, good post

Ustinov would be a good guy to fight but he's promoted by the Klitschko's, doubt Volodymyr would want to help Povetkin out by giving him a fight against Ustinov.

I noticed that Povetkin is bending his legs a little more, getting more power in the punches, going for the body as a solid target instead of a target of opportunity and he's keeping his hands in tighter. I don't know if it will pay off in the long run, but he couldn't beat WK or VK with his old skills.

agreed, good post. I think him being in a bit better shape is what helped more than anything. His handspeed and power did seem improved. He seemed to do a better job of throwing with more quality/crisp punches where in the past alot of the time he was simply just trying to throw, alot being soft & inneffective.

His footwork seemed to have improved a little, that and his upperbody movement when moving inside are the only 2 areas of his game that i think Teddy can help with. Hopfully he will.

Why not just say you like Atlas? He has fucked up everyone he trained. Povetkin was number one in world as pro and amateur, what is Atlas going to do for him? As if he just learned what body punching is.

I dislike Atlas a great deal too but fact is Povetkin is working with him so it is what it is. If he can help with Povetkin's shape/conditioning, footwork, and headmovement then great cuz that's the biggest flaws in Sasha's game. Teddy does seem like a good choice for helping improve those areas too.

I'm remaining optimistic and the 1st outing seemed to have showed good results. But i also don't see Povetkin or his people taking bullshit from Teddy like Moorer or some others have. If Teddy turns asshole i'm sure everyone in the camp will be more than quick to tell Atlas to go fuck himself. So that helps imo.

Atlas is the most succesful one out of D'amato's Catskills camp. At least as far as I know. I can't think of anybody else.

If I'm not mistaken Povetkin didn't wear any socks in his fight vs Nolan. Hmmm.

lmao i saw the fight but didn't notice that, you actually can't see socks but doesn't mean he isn't wearing any..

[Nosbor]

Nothing against Povetkin..he was great amateur and his good pro, but i'll believe Helenius will beat him even this early in his career


:rofl Yeah sure he would! :lol::lol::lol:

[Grecorussian]

We have only 10 days left for Povetkin's next fight, and we still don't know the opponent :patsch

[Nosbor]

Hopefully Sasha does not end up like Sergei Kobozev.

[Grecorussian]

Javier Mora from Mexico will be Sasha's next opponent :verysad

[Nosbor]

I basically laughed at the guy who said Helenius could beat Povetkin but Helenius has a tougher fight this month.

Why Mora? He has nothing to offer. I still recall Ibragimov starching him in like 30 seconds at MSG!

[MyStyle]

Povetkin is a coward

[Grecorussian]

According to Vitali , the fight of his brother with Povetkin WILL take place later this year. In autumn. Let's see :bbb