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Little_Mac
09-27-2007, 04:23 PM
How exactly are bouts scored in an amatuer fight? I understand that there's judges and everything but what do they look for? Do they use an actual point system or rounds or what?
Kolya
09-27-2007, 04:57 PM
It's based on scoring blows landed. All punches are of equal value (1 point). You score to the front of the head from the ear forward, and the body from the sides forward. The punch must be clean and land with the white knuckles on the glove. If it doesn't, or if your opponenet parries it or deflects it or it otherwise doesn't land clean, the punch doesn't score.
gregsid
09-27-2007, 08:30 PM
It's based on scoring blows landed. All punches are of equal value (1 point). You score to the front of the head from the ear forward, and the body from the sides forward. The punch must be clean and land with the white knuckles on the glove. If it doesn't, or if your opponenet parries it or deflects it or it otherwise doesn't land clean, the punch doesn't score.
Yeah, this is right.
One thing you forgot to mention was that they don't count clean body punches for points.
That's the one thing that I hated about amauture boxing. They are basiclly discouraging going to the body, even though body blows are so important. Especially in amauture fights cause they can completely stop the guy in his tracks.
BEER:30
09-27-2007, 08:34 PM
Yeah, this is right.
One thing you forgot to mention was that they don't count clean body punches for points.
That's the one thing that I hated about amauture boxing. They are basiclly discouraging going to the body, even though body blows are so important. Especially in amauture fights cause they can completely stop the guy in his tracks.
That's not true. Body punches count the same as head shots, they are just harder to see.
LethalAthletics
09-27-2007, 10:27 PM
major qualifying tournaments, nationals and international amateur competitions are scored with the modern computer system which is three out of five judges have to ackowledge a blow within 1 second. that's why body shots don't count (as often). its hard enough for one judge to see a clean connected body shot down the middle, between the receivers elbows, let alone three judges at the same time. even if its an obvious digging hook to the body, it may be as clear as day to one or two judges but a third judge way over on the opposite side of the ring most likely will not be able to testify he witnessed it.
before the computer system was put in place we canadians used the 20 point must system. i use this during training to make a competitive game out of sparring. every time a boxer lands a shot he is "up by one". if boxer B gets a point then the score is even. it will go back and forth and so on. for every three positive blows, at the end of a round, a negative point is awarded to the "losing" athlete. an outclassed match is 20-17 or greater. essentially that means the winner outclassed his opponent by at least 9 clean blows.
Do shots to the forhead count?
Kolya
09-27-2007, 11:35 PM
Do shots to the forhead count?
As I said, all shots to the front of the body and head, in front of the ears or sides and scored with the white scoring portion of the glove count.
Little_Mac
09-29-2007, 11:08 AM
Ok I think I get it now.
So lets say for Round 1 Boxer A hits Boxer B 4 times on the head with scoring blows. Then Boxer B hits A 2 times with scoring blows. What would the score be at the end of round 1? 4 to 2?
Kolya
09-29-2007, 11:19 AM
Yes. That's actually part of the test you have to take when you get certified as a USA Boxing official. Then if a point deduction occurs; you award two points to the boxer who was fouled.
Little_Mac
09-29-2007, 11:29 AM
OK thanks a lot for clearing that up with me!
But I assume that say Boxer A wins round one 5-1, then loses round two 1-2, loses round three 1-2, and loses round four 1-2, that the final score will be 8-7, with Boxer A winning even though he lost 3 out of 4 rounds right? Am I right?
Kolya
09-29-2007, 11:33 AM
That's correct. It's based on total points scored; it doesn't necessarily matter that he "lost" the round. Also, there can't be a draw in amateur boxing in the US at least. In the event of a tied score; there are three subjective criteria a judge uses to determine a winner-effective aggression, better defense, and cleaner style.
Little_Mac
09-29-2007, 11:43 AM
Awesome now I get it. My trainer tried explaining this all to me a while back but i didn't understand and never bothered to ask for him to reiterate. Anyways thanks alot Kolya, this really helped.:good
Kolya
09-29-2007, 12:47 PM
No problems; if you have any other questions any time go ahead and ask or PM me, I'm certified as a Level 1 USA Boxing official (referee/judge/timekeeper).
gregsid
09-29-2007, 02:05 PM
Yeah, thats why I hate the amateur point system. If all the judges don't click there button at the same time for a point then it's not counted.
Kolya
09-29-2007, 02:23 PM
Yeah, thats why I hate the amateur point system. If all the judges don't click there button at the same time for a point then it's not counted.
That's only at national tournaments where computer scoring is in place. At the local level scoring is done differently, individually by each judge.
gregsid
09-29-2007, 07:11 PM
That's only at national tournaments where computer scoring is in place. At the local level scoring is done differently, individually by each judge.
Well, yeah I know that. That's what I was conferring too.
silvy_chris
09-30-2007, 03:32 AM
i understand the landing punch scoring system but 1 thing....
in the pros if you drop sum1 a point is taken off their card (eg 10-8 instead of 10-9). does dropping ur opponent get u another point or 2? i dont think it does but just wondering...
Thriller
09-30-2007, 06:31 AM
in the ams, every punch is one point.
a jab is worth the same as knocking someone down with a hook etc
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