Manny Steward and Coach Roach are scared to death....

[compukiller]

OK, everyone here knows I have picked Pavlik and MAB to KO thier opponents in thier next 2 fights. But I feel that PAC and JT's trainers are talking too much shit lately. And shit talking is not their M.O.


Roach's constant mantra that "PAC is OK", "Pac is OK" is bordering on ridiculous. Also, him claiming that he heard MAB was KTFO in sparring and that he sent spies to his camp is childish. This is the sort of low class thing Roach has a rep for avoiding. Now he's already complaining about MAB's hand wraps. Translation: Roach is not sure PAC is 100%for this fight.

He didn't talk this much shit before DLH-PBF....

And Manny LOst it days ago at a press conference where he went on an emotional tirade, berating Pavlik to the point of comedy. He says Pavlik will be competitive for one rd and will be KTFO in 3.

I understand Picking your man to win by KO. But 3 rds????:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

And why was Manny near tears as he said this?? He knowsJT isgoing to have massive problems win or lose on saturday, and he is cracking under the pressure. Manny's constant talk of JT finally facing righty is just bullshit. JT had more problems against the last rightie he faced than in all his other fights combined accept Winky.

His shameless begging of BHOP and WINK to retire was dispicable and sad. Heknows the hype train is almost over and that he will (unjustly) recieve alot of blame.

I have respect forboth trainers, but the shit talking will backfire, mark my words.

[BITCH ASS]

Shit you read a lot into something that you can't read much into.

Steward predicting that the fight only goes three rounds is pretty bold, but he based it on how Jermain is looking in camp - he's also had several very awkward challenges, this is the first style that "suits" Jermain in quite a long time.

Face it, you just want REASON to believe Taylor and Pac aren't going to win.

Yeah because a tall, rangy, undefeated, intelligent and relentless middleweight that can knock you out in one punch, and throws 80 per round is a style to SUIT anyone.

[compukiller]

Yeah because a tall, rangy, undefeated, intelligent and relentless middleweight that can knock you out in one punch, and throws 80 per round is a style to SUIT anyone.


:yep :good :good

[compukiller]

Shit you read a lot into something that you can't read much into.

Steward predicting that the fight only goes three rounds is pretty bold, but he based it on how Jermain is looking in camp - he's also had several very awkward challenges, this is the first style that "suits" Jermain in quite a long time.

Face it, you just want REASON to believe Taylor and Pac aren't going to win.

It is uncharacteristic of both trainers, whether I want PAC and JT to lose or not.

[psychopath]

OK, everyone here knows I have picked Pavlik and MAB to KO thier opponents in thier next 2 fights. But I feel that PAC and JT's trainers are talking too much shit lately. And shit talking is not their M.O.


Roach's constant mantra that "PAC is OK", "Pac is OK" is bordering on ridiculous. Also, him claiming that he heard MAB was KTFO in sparring and that he sent spies to his camp is childish. This is the sort of low class thing Roach has a rep for avoiding. Now he's already complaining about MAB's hand wraps. Translation: Roach is not sure PAC is 100%for this fight.

He didn't talk this much shit before DLH-PBF....

And Manny LOst it days ago at a press conference where he went on an emotional tirade, berating Pavlik to the point of comedy. He says Pavlik will be competitive for one rd and will be KTFO in 3.

I understand Picking your man to win by KO. But 3 rds????:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

And why was Manny near tears as he said this?? He knowsJT isgoing to have massive problems win or lose on saturday, and he is cracking under the pressure. Manny's constant talk of JT finally facing righty is just bullshit. JT had more problems against the last rightie he faced than in all his other fights combined accept Winky.

His shameless begging of BHOP and WINK to retire was dispicable and sad. Heknows the hype train is almost over and that he will (unjustly) recieve alot of blame.

I have respect forboth trainers, but the shit talking will backfire, mark my words.

I see nothing serious about all these shit talkings . . . this is normal before any fight buddy. Press release to generate more curiosity. :yep

So relax . . . and just wait for the fight. I see this as more of an "agitation" to you than anything else. :think :D

[brooklyn1550]

I believe both of them are very confident in their fighters regardless of fans saying 1) Pavlik will win by KO or 2) Barrera will upset Pacman who is lacking in focus.

[PolishPummler]

Manny is not 100% confident in Taylor and that was made clear during Taylor's last fight against Spinks."I told you we should have fought Miranda instead"right in the middle of a fight.

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[audio101]

I love how how people keep predicting Taylor to win by KO, even though has NO power what so ever. I mean is Pavlik's chin all of a sudden going to turn to glass when Taylor lands one of his awful off balanced hooking shots? Taylor is one of the most unpolished champions and hopefully Pavlik dominates so we don't have to deal with another gift decision for Taylor.

[bachatu]

I love how how people keep predicting Taylor to win by KO, even though has NO power what so ever. I mean is Pavlik's chin all of a sudden going to turn to glass when Taylor lands one of his awful off balanced hooking shots? Taylor is one of the most unpolished champions and hopefully Pavlik dominates so we don't have to deal with another gift decision for Taylor.

So it takes NO power whatsoever to KO 17 opponents out of 27? Lets not get exagerated here with such comments. When did Jermaine turn complete powerless and Pavlik turn into "The Iron Chin Man"... so if Pavliks chin doesn't turn into glass it turns into granite?Its neither...it hasnt really been tested to make such statements. His chin is what it is...it hasnt been tested by someone like Jermaine. Remember, speed of itself can cause problems for guys. Some guys go down by a combination of punches or by a punch they don't see because its too quick for them. Ask some of Roy Jones' opponents. And NO, im not saying Jermaine is as fast as Roy Jones, but he sure is faster than any of Pavliks past opponents considered to be formidable.

Why do we forget other mechanics in boxing such footwork & hand speed.

[compukiller]

So it takes NO power whatsoever to KO 17 opponents out of 27? Lets not get exagerated here with such comments. When did Jermaine turn complete powerless and Pavlik turn into "The Iron Chin Man"... so if Pavliks chin doesn't turn into glass it turns into granite?Its neither...it hasnt really been tested to make such statements. His chin is what it is...it hasnt been tested by someone like Jermaine. Remember, speed of itself can cause problems for guys. Some guys go down by a combination of punches or by a punch they don't see because its too quick for them. Ask some of Roy Jones' opponents. And NO, im not saying Jermaine is as fast as Roy Jones, but he sure is faster than any of Pavliks past opponents considered to be formidable.

Why do we forget other mechanics in boxing such footwork & hand speed.

It is easy for a guy of JT's size to knock out 147 and 154 pound journeymen moving up....

[chimba]

JT will beat Pavlik guaranteed, probabilty of KO high. Pac needs only to be 50% to beat MAB

[boxbox]

dont get carried away by these marketing/hyping jobs... its not a good basis to get your hopes up.. JT and PAC will win.

[mad_takamura]

OK, everyone here knows I have picked Pavlik and MAB to KO thier opponents in thier next 2 fights. But I feel that PAC and JT's trainers are talking too much shit lately. And shit talking is not their M.O.


Roach's constant mantra that "PAC is OK", "Pac is OK" is bordering on ridiculous. Also, him claiming that he heard MAB was KTFO in sparring and that he sent spies to his camp is childish. This is the sort of low class thing Roach has a rep for avoiding. Now he's already complaining about MAB's hand wraps. Translation: Roach is not sure PAC is 100%for this fight.

He didn't talk this much shit before DLH-PBF....

And Manny LOst it days ago at a press conference where he went on an emotional tirade, berating Pavlik to the point of comedy. He says Pavlik will be competitive for one rd and will be KTFO in 3.

I understand Picking your man to win by KO. But 3 rds????:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

And why was Manny near tears as he said this?? He knowsJT isgoing to have massive problems win or lose on saturday, and he is cracking under the pressure. Manny's constant talk of JT finally facing righty is just bullshit. JT had more problems against the last rightie he faced than in all his other fights combined accept Winky.

His shameless begging of BHOP and WINK to retire was dispicable and sad. Heknows the hype train is almost over and that he will (unjustly) recieve alot of blame.

I have respect forboth trainers, but the shit talking will backfire, mark my words.
i don't get it: why do you bite on this that pac is not 100% ready? are you blind to what you see at the photos or on the news?! pac already did 120 rounds! and his training is still ongoing! and just because it happened in the phi you think he was ill prepared?! if they say pac was not ready:it's plain b.s.! believe me it's just a psy-war made by either camps.

[mad_takamura]

and taylor will win!:good

[compukiller]

i don't get it: why do you bite on this that pac is not 100% ready? are you blind to what you see at the photos or on the news?! pac already did 120 rounds! and his training is still ongoing! and just because it happened in the phi you think he was ill prepared?! if they say pac was not ready:it's plain b.s.! believe me it's just a psy-war made by either camps.

Pac's distractions are very real. I think he looks great in the pics I've seen, but I'm more worried about his mental condition.

Freddie has been uncharacteristically loud in the press. Hey, If Pac wins, we know he took the fight seriously.

But if he loses, I guarantee his camp and fans will point toward these distractions as a huge factor. Just like in the 1st Morales fight.

[compukiller]

and taylor will win!:good

No he won't, but it's sweet of you to say so.:good

[Silverfox]

Win or lose, makes no difference to me. Taylor is in my opinion, no better than a glorified amateur. He can never get better than he is at this stage.

[hmi]

Better put your action where your mouth is. Is there a month off betting thread for Taylor-Pavlik and Pac-MAB fights? We can see if you are really confident of your boxers if you are willing to bet a month off ESB.

[mad_takamura]

Pac's distractions are very real. I think he looks great in the pics I've seen, but I'm more worried about his mental condition.

Freddie has been uncharacteristically loud in the press. Hey, If Pac wins, we know he took the fight seriously.

But if he loses, I guarantee his camp and fans will point toward these distractions as a huge factor. Just like in the 1st Morales fight. i disagree: first line of excuse will be ara mina. a popular actress here at phi. they made a movie together. i bet she really distracted manny, ask jinky.

[Cruiser1]

I just wanna know how people can still sit here and defend Jermain Taylor. I think people do it because they know he's under a lot of scrutiny right now and the in-thing is to bash him. So this is just their way of bucking the trend. Identify with the guy who's on the offensive. Everyone and their mother knows that Jermain Taylor is in trouble saturday night and all this berating of Pavlik just reeks of insecurity on both Taylor and Steward's part. I'm getting sick of hearing it. Jermain Taylor's title reign is one of the most questionable the sport has ever seen. At least Sven Ottke had some legitimate victories inbetween his robberies. Jermain got a gift in at least one of the two Hopkins fights, got a bogus draw against Winky, and then barely got by Spinks. Do u think Emmanuel Steward would be so animated if everything was ok? Seriously.

[mad_takamura]

No he won't, but it's sweet of you to say so.:good
wanna bet?
:good

[audio101]

People were saying the same thing about Taylor winning by KO before his last 2 fights and guess what, No KO! This Taylor hype train never dies, I've never seen people more confident in Taylor even after 2 awful performances and let downs. This guy barely knows how to throw a proper punch anymore and backs up for no apparent reason. You think we would even be mentioning Taylor's name anymore if Hopkins threw punches like Pavlik? I doubt it...

[Silverfox]

I agree that Taylor won't get any better but to call him a glorified amateur is crazy. LOL.. He received many gifts but he was close in all those fights against the future HOFers...

To me, a glorified amateur, is someone who demonstrated tremendous potential in the amateur ranks, but never really kicked on in the pro division. Taylor never had the true heart for the game and relied on a wild swing to eventually connect.

Pavlik on the other hand, will have learnt a lot from the Taylor fight and will consider his defence as inadequate. Having risen from a near KO, Pavlik clearly demonstrated where his heart for the game lies. He is one of the few fighters who punches down the pipe.

An exciting fight to watch....and one, where I was at one time, questioning my own assessment of Taylor.

The division has gained in credibility!

Have a great weekend!

[compukiller]

wanna bet?
:good


I forgot about this thread. :yep

[boxbox]

dont get carried away by these marketing/hyping jobs... its not a good basis to get your hopes up.. JT and PAC will win.

dont i feel stupid...hopefully my other prediction goes out!:?

[compukiller]

dont i feel stupid...hopefully my other prediction goes out!:?

MAB by TKO. :good