Anyone gives Bergeron a chance againts Valuev?

[Quik]

I really don't know what to expect. I hope Bergeron wins cause hes from my home province but i really dont see how he can do since he is too tall to get on the inside and not big enough to trade with the giant. I think he is better defensivly and faster but he has never fought anyone like Valuev so i don't know if he has any chance.

What are your thoughts?

[Stinky gloves]

Nope, noone gives him a chance.

[PH|LLA]

no chance in hell man
bergeron is shite

[Quik]

I still hope he pulls the upset....

[TheGrimReaper]

bergeron couldnt ko mohammed said

[box03]

I cant see Valuev losing to this guy, I think Valuev will be in the ring with Wlad late next year it was already in the works before Chagaev beat him.

[anut]

The Only Thing Hes Got Goin Is Hes A Southpaw

[jopez707]

Has Bereron beaten anybody in the top 25? I think Valuev will expose him, and thats saying something...lol...

[brooklyn1550]

Not really...

[badreader]

Not really...

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[Zakman]

Wow - that's some serious combined ugliness right there.....

[badreader]

You GOT to like Valuev, Zakman. He does have a chin :)

[brooklyn1550]

Wow - that's some serious combined ugliness right there.....

You can say that again!

And Bergeron is a big guy, not huge, but big. And Valuev just dwarfs him. His head must weigh 40 pounds!

[Kegsy]

I would give some of the top 10 contenders a chance, but not Bergeron he has been so over protected & will be exposed.

[box03]

Wow - that's some serious combined ugliness right there..... Valuev is easily one of scariest boxers I have ever seen, how would you like to run into him in a dark alley.

[box03]

I give my 80 year old great grandmother a chance against Valuev, so yeah Bergeron has chance. I would hate to get in fight with your grandmother then, Valuev is a fucking monster.

[Nico]

I don't understand how Valuev is favored by such a huge margin though. A 30-1 favorite? I don't think I've ever seen such lopsided odds for a fight.

[box03]

I don't understand how Valuev is favored by such a huge margin though. A 30-1 favorite? I don't think I've ever seen such lopsided odds for a fight.

Tyson against Douglas, I think the odds were 300 to 1 in begining and came down before the fight. People were betting on what round Tyson was going to knock Douglas, no one even considered Tyson losing

[Nico]

Tyson against Douglas, I think the odds were 300 to 1 in begining and came down before the fight. People were betting on what round Tyson was going to knock Douglas, no one even considered Tyson losing


I was just talking about what I've seen since I became a huge fan, around '95. And I only started paying attention to betting lines fairly recently, within the last couple of years.

[Maxime]

Wow - that's some serious combined ugliness right there.....

Even Roy Jones would have a "Granite chin" if he was getting hit by guys 100 lbs lighter then him.

:rofl

[Rick G]

Valuev only can be beaten if
- his opponent is a very accurate boxer who scores constantly
- his opponent has a good defense, a hell of a chin and a big heart
- his opponent can run the Marathon like Valuev can
- the judges score every hit of the opponent regardless whether it had some effect or not
- the ref ignores all lowblows of the opponent
- the ref gives a warning or point reduction for every accidental rabbit punch of Valuev

Too many ifs...

[Rick G]

Valuev promised a "new Valuev". I am curious to see what his new trainer has changed. They tried to work on movement and boxing skills. I think Bergeron is a good enough to test some new strategies under real life conditions - something like an open sparring.

For Bergeron there is nothing to loose. OK he will loose his undefeated record, but finally he has a name in his record. So if he looks good in the starting rounds, and does not get psychologic problems after the TKO his marketability will increase - see McCline.

[Stickandmove]

I don't understand how Valuev is favored by such a huge margin though. A 30-1 favorite? I don't think I've ever seen such lopsided odds for a fight.



Amir Khan and Kermit Cintron are also 30-1 favorites in their next fights.

[Stickandmove]

Valuev only can be beaten if
- his opponent is a very accurate boxer who scores constantly
- his opponent has a good defense, a hell of a chin and a big heart
- his opponent can run the Marathon like Valuev can
- the judges score every hit of the opponent regardless whether it had some effect or not
- the ref ignores all lowblows of the opponent
- the ref gives a warning or point reduction for every accidental rabbit punch of Valuev

Too many ifs...

Can Wlad (with his shaky chin) beat Valuev then? It will be weird seeing Wlad dwarfed in the ring in any case.

For his size, Valuev is a pretty pathetic puncher though, no? Wlad would win an easy UD in my opinion.

[unclepaulie]

I really hope Valuev fights Wlad and gets knocked out. He is so boring to watch. A guy whos seven feet tall 300 plus pounds, he should be tearing through his opponents, not using an impossibly long jab and cross to coast his way to victories. what a joke.

[Feiti]

I cant see Valuev losing to this guy, I think Valuev will be in the ring with Wlad late next year it was already in the works before Chagaev beat him.

How do you know this?

[Cruiser1]

I've never seen Bergeron fight. I've been fortunate. But I know for a fact that they wouldn't bring him to Germany if he was any threat to Valuev. The undefeated record is what the promoters use to make us believe that this is a legitimate opponent. We know better and yes, those are 2 ugly motherfuckers.

[Bigcat]

Bergeron is horrendous, he has as much chance as a gnat flying to the moon in an hour.. Bet the whole purse on Valuev..

[The Cyborg]

Valuev promised a "new Valuev". I am curious to see what his new trainer has changed. They tried to work on movement and boxing skills. I think Bergeron is a good enough to test some new strategies under real life conditions - something like an open sparring.

For Bergeron there is nothing to loose. OK he will loose his undefeated record, but finally he has a name in his record. So if he looks good in the starting rounds, and does not get psychologic problems after the TKO his marketability will increase - see McCline.

Good comment. :good

[The Cyborg]

I think if the improvements were very obvious in this fight, I think Valuev will easily get his title back, and will be a threat to Wlad and Peter.

[cross_trainer]

Bergeron will shock you all. He is the next Muhammad Ali.

[Vantage_West]

bergaron is suppose to have a long amatuer career...

and also has had surgury on both him elbows????

and when you have an operation on arms they usually dont have the speed or power of before

i think he could of been good if he didnt be such an underdog and have horrendous lay offs.

[cross_trainer]

cross trainer stop makin of fool out of yo self Bergeron is another Canadian heavyweight waiting to get exposed

Exposed...as the greatest of all time!

[Rick G]

Can Wlad (with his shaky chin) beat Valuev then? ...

well, if ...

[crashzzz]

I think what he meant by being a "new" Valuev, he would finally wax 90% of he body surface and try to look half humain at least....

[emanuel_augustus]

Bergeron is horrendous, he has as much chance as a gnat flying to the moon in an hour.. Bet the whole purse on Valuev..\

That's a bullshit comment. Have you seen the guy fight? To say he's horrendous is just stupid. He's a skilled guy, has quick hands and is rangy.

He has only about a 10-15% chance to beat Valuev, but he's no bum.

You're usually better informed than this.

[crashzzz]

How can Valuev really hurt Bergeron??

I mean, his punches will just bounce off Bergeron's head like rubber, then Bergeron will counter with thundering uppercut!

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