Tale of the tape: JC-MK

[DanePugilist]

JOE CALZAGHE............STATS................MIKKEL KESSLER
Newbridge, Wales........HOMETOWN..........Copenhagen, Denmark
43-0 | 32 KO..............RECORD...............39-0, 29 KOs
Feburary 23, 1972.......BIRTH DATE..........March 1, 1979
168..........................WEIGHT...............168
6'0"..........................HEIGHT................6'1"
74"...........................REACH.................73"
38"...........................CHEST (NORMAL)...38"
40"...........................CHEST (EXPANDED)42"
11.5"........................FOREARMS............12.5"
21"..........................THIGH...................20"
15"..........................CALF....................14.6"
16.5"........................NECK...................15.5"
7"............................WRIST..................6.5"
12"...........................FIST...................11.5"

[Amsterdam]

Pretty even stats, but the supernatural element is something you forgot to add in Calzaghe's favour. Calzaghe also may be 6'2 or around there, Kessler may be an inch under 6'1 at 6 even judging from the photo's.

[Executioner]

I don't think those stats are very big considering they are supermiddleweight fighters.

[DanePugilist]

His supernatural element is the farther reach:lol:

[DanePugilist]

Calzaghe has bigger hands and wrists than Kessler? As well as more lower body size?

You're absolutely certain these are valid?These are taken from HBOs board - so don't really know...

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[Amsterdam]

His supernatural element is the farther reach:lol:

I've known about the slight reach advantage for a while, you didn't?

All the better for landing awkward angle shots.:yep

[DanePugilist]

I've known about the slight reach advantage for a while, you didn't?

All the better for landing awkward angle shots.:yepWasn't certain... Knew JCs but had forgotten Kesslers. What is funny though is the fact that Kesslers expanded chest is 2" broader, while at normal state its the same.

[Carlos Primera]

JC also has balls the size of tennis balls, which he will promptly tea bag mikkel with come november.

[DanePugilist]

Wouldn't trust HBO as far as I could throw them in that case.

I mean, how many times have you seen a guy with an inch bigger forearms having half an inch smaller wrist size.

I think these guys are physically very similar in build, I think Joe is the naturally "bigger" guy in terms of structure and without doubt, the more physically conditioned guy.

Surprised if the fist stats are true, Joe has pretty small hands for a middleweight, which would make Kessler's even smaller.People tend to be build weirdly... its seen before - like Andrade was bigger in all stats, except waist(i think) and ankles.

[Amsterdam]

Wasn't certain... Knew JCs but had forgotten Kesslers. What is funny though is the fact that Kesslers expanded chest is 2" broader, while at normal state its the same.

I think you're gradually figuring out that MK is not going to win...:D

[Amsterdam]

JC also has balls the size of tennis balls, which he will promptly tea bag mikkel with come november.

Tennis balls may be understating it, I'd say they're more in tune with a small medicine ball.

[DanePugilist]

I think you're gradually figuring out that MK is not going to win...:DNo way:lol:. If Calzaghe beats Kessler I will first realize it on the 4th or 5th:D

[DanePugilist]

Tennis balls may be understating it, I'd say they're more in tune with a small medicine ball.Those tennisballs are made of granite, since he dared facing Kessler - however, it will be his undoing.

[Amsterdam]

No way:lol:. If Calzaghe beats Kessler I will first realize it on the 4th or 5th:D

What if Calzaghe beats Kessler supernaturally? Meaning a blowout on cards or just general 1 sided thrashing in beautiful fashion.

What if Kessler gets Lacy'd? Then you would realise it on the 10th!:lol:

[DanePugilist]

What if Calzaghe beats Kessler supernaturally? Meaning a blowout on cards or just general 1 sided thrashing in beautiful fashion.

What if Kessler gets Lacy'd? Then you would realise it on the 10th!:lol:Yep 10th of November - 2008... But this will never happen... Nor will the opposite happen. This is 90% positive to be a Draw, SD, or MD. Last 10% is TKO Kessler.

[Amsterdam]

Yep 10th of November - 2008... But this will never happen... Nor will the opposite happen. This is 90% positive to be a Draw, SD, or MD. Last 10% is TKO Kessler.

It's a 90% positive to be a clear JC win. How it happens is up for discussion however.

Hmm. Has a true norseman ever been 'Lacy'd' in the last 1200 years or so? I remember a time when they Lacy'd everything in the way of the journey.:lol:

[China_hand_Joe]

JOE CALZAGHE............STATS................MIKKEL KESSLER
Newbridge, Wales........HOMETOWN..........Copenhagen, Denmark
43-0 | 32 KO..............RECORD...............39-0, 29 KOs
Feburary 23, 1972.......BIRTH DATE..........March 1, 1979
168..........................WEIGHT...............168
6'0"..........................HEIGHT................6'1"
74"...........................REACH.................73"
38"...........................CHEST (NORMAL)...38"
40"...........................CHEST (EXPANDED)42"
11.5"........................FOREARMS............12.5"
21"..........................THIGH...................20"
15"..........................CALF....................14.6"
16.5"........................NECK...................15.5"
7"............................WRIST..................6.5"
12"...........................FIST...................11.5"

Calzaghe has the thicker wrists, a huge factor. A sign his bones are thicker and stronger.

His legs are bigger, that is where the power and blance is coming from. Kessler is top-heavy.

Neck...Calzaghe. Pencil neck Kessler may have a weak chin.

Calzaghe has the thinner arm and bigger fist. A hammer like shape. Kessler small fists and fat arms, shaped more like a stick or something. Hammers work better than sticks for hitting people.

[Amsterdam]

Calzaghe has the thicker wrists, a huge factor. A sign his bones are thicker and stronger.

His legs are bigger, that is where the power and blance is coming from. Kessler is top-heavy.

Neck...Calzaghe. Pencil neck Kessler may have a weak chin.

Calzaghe has the thinner arm and bigger fist. A hammer like shape. Kessler small fists and fat arms, shaped more like a stick or something. Hammers work better than sticks for hitting people.

Yet, you are fence sitting on this bout.

[DanePugilist]

It's a 90% positive to be a clear JC win. How it happens is up for discussion however.

Hmm. Has a true norseman ever been 'Lacy'd' in the last 1200 years or so? I remember a time when they Lacy'd everything in the way of the journey.:lol:They only got Lacy'd by Christianity - but other than that, a true norseman such as Kessler can't let a welsh stallion get the best of him.

My visions say there will be a carnage. Maybe both men will die from the clash of the titans...

[DanePugilist]

Yet, you are fence sitting on this bout.:lol:

[DanePugilist]

Calzaghe has the thicker wrists, a huge factor. A sign his bones are thicker and stronger.

His legs are bigger, that is where the power and blance is coming from. Kessler is top-heavy.

Neck...Calzaghe. Pencil neck Kessler may have a weak chin.

Calzaghe has the thinner arm and bigger fist. A hammer like shape. Kessler small fists and fat arms, shaped more like a stick or something. Hammers work better than sticks for hitting people.What does it all matter if Calzaghes hammer breaks on impact? Kessler hands and arms are like spears.

Remember a spear killed the son of God:lol:

[unclepaulie]

JC also has balls the size of tennis balls, which he will promptly tea bag mikkel with come november.
Tennis balls may be understating it, I'd say they're more in tune with a small medicine ball.
Get off Calzaghes nuts. Literally. This takes nuthugging to a level never previously recorded by human beings.

[unclepaulie]

Originally posted by China_Hand_Joe
Calzaghe has the thicker wrists, a huge factor. A sign his bones are thicker and stronger.

His legs are bigger, that is where the power and blance is coming from. Kessler is top-heavy.

Neck...Calzaghe. Pencil neck Kessler may have a weak chin.

Calzaghe has the thinner arm and bigger fist. A hammer like shape. Kessler small fists and fat arms, shaped more like a stick or something. Hammers work better than sticks for hitting people.
This dosent make nearly the difference you think it does.

[China_hand_Joe]

What does it all matter if Calzaghes hammer breaks on impact? Kessler hands and arms are like spears.

Remember a spear killed the son of God:lol:

Hammers a certainly more suitable for slapping. Spears for jabbing perhaps.

[Govanmauler]

What a fuckin weird thread :lol:

I always thought from the picture Joe was slightly smaller , although I reckon this fight is going to be a about styles not the physical match up. If Kessler can figure out a way to deal with Joes fast flurries and weird angles he's sunk , however if Kessler approaches Joe as if he is fighting the guys he has fought in the past he is going to get his arse handed to him.

I go with Joe ! ( but its with doubt in my heart !)

[dragosuhail]

it seems the lower stats were mixed up accidently. im sure kessler has bigger fist for example.

as for height i still believe kessler has the height on calzaghe because i've seen kessler posing opposite to mundine in their weigh-in, and kessler looked shorter than mundine! now we all know mundine is a shortie etc, and well that goes to show you how the slightest angle on a shot can enlarge/shrink a person.

but at the end of the day, it's pretty academic since they are almost similar physically in many ways.

joe has speed advantage, kessler has power. and don't say is disputable... kessler has i believe 18 clean ko's on his record. calzaghe has 2 ko's! that shows the difference in their stopping power right there.

and considering kessler is 7 years younger, great stamina, superior power and focus. and a few other things, and we have kessler by UD or late KO

[PATSYS]

JOE CALZAGHE............STATS................MIKKEL KESSLER
Newbridge, Wales........HOMETOWN..........Copenhagen, Denmark
43-0 | 32 KO..............RECORD...............39-0, 29 KOs
Feburary 23, 1972.......BIRTH DATE..........March 1, 1979
168..........................WEIGHT...............168
6'0"..........................HEIGHT................6'1"
74"...........................REACH.................73"
38"...........................CHEST (NORMAL)...38"
40"...........................CHEST (EXPANDED)42"
11.5"........................FOREARMS............12.5"
21"..........................THIGH...................20"
15"..........................CALF....................14.6"
16.5"........................NECK...................15.5"
7"............................WRIST..................6.5"
12"...........................FIST...................11.5"

I have never seen such an equally matched prime undefeated fighters since the DLH-TITO matchup.

I just hope it doesn't end up as controversial as DLH-TITO though..:patsch

[DanePugilist]

Hammers a certainly more suitable for slapping. Spears for jabbing perhaps.:good