BJ Penn Vs. Diego Sanchez

[RUSKULL]

The Prodigy vs. The Nightmare, who wins & how?

[Phil]

Penn by KO as he wont let sanchez take him down and is better stand up

[Dynamite Kid]

To be honest I'm not sure. This is actually a closer fight than people think.

[tri-pod]

I have Penn by submission.

[196osh]

Penn RNC round 2

[Dynamite Kid]

Penn by KO as he wont let sanchez take him down and is better stand up

Nobody has ever knocked Diego out. He has an excellent chin. Koscheck is a bigger hitter than Penn and he hit Diego with alot of shit. Punches, Headkicks, and Diego never even appeared stunned. And as far as standup, while BJ may be technically better with his Boxing, Diego is the more explosive striker.

If Penn wins it will by sub IMO, because his Jiu jitsu is tighter, but at the same time Diego is a great scrambler, and it will be fun watching him against someone like Penn. Tough fight to call.

[tri-pod]

Penn RNC round 2

You mean Penn gogoplata round 1 right?

:smoke

Seriously though, this wont be an easy fight for Penn as Diego is no slouch, that being said I just don't see Penn losing this fight.

I'll eat my words come Saturday night if Diego does yes-cartwheel BJ Penn to hell, but I don't think Diego will pull it off.

[196osh]

:lol:

BJ will get top position damage Diego with punches, Diego will try to scramble up BJ will take his back.

Bam republican national convention.

[Tuffnutz]

I'm looking for Sanchez to seriously test BJ's gas tank in this one.

I think that Sanchez could pull off the upset in the championship rounds or take a decision.

[BewareofDawg]

I have been wanting to see this fight since Diego moved down from WW. And when Diego was at WW I badly wanted to see him fight GSP and Hughes. Diego is very dangerous and I think the biggest problem he has had was gameplanning and being outsized against Fitch.

Diego:
Decent Standup. He looks good against wrestlers but he has tremendous deficiencies in his striking and I predict him to look horrible on his feet against BJ.
Decent Takedowns. He is persistent but his takedowns are not fluid and he comes up short alot.
Great in the scramble.
Great GNP
Very good Grappling.
GOOD Cardio, but his cardio has never been tested past 3 rounds.

Anybody disagree with the above?

As was made above, the comparison between Kos and BJ's striking has no bearing. Kos may be stronger but BJ is much faster with his hands and more accurate and much more fluid. Kos may have hit diego but BJ will counter him and hit him when he isn't expecting. Those are the shots that crack an iron chin.

1. BJ feels him out, jabs and stuffs his takedowns in the first
2. BJ picks up the pace, hurts him with a combination, takes him down, gets top position and submits him in the 2nd.

That is my prediction. :good

The old BJ, when he first entered the ufc I think Diego might give some trouble to and might even beat. BJ is too smart now and too patient. He's too intelligent now.

[Dynamite Kid]

I have been wanting to see this fight since Diego moved down from WW. And when Diego was at WW I badly wanted to see him fight GSP and Hughes. Diego is very dangerous and I think the biggest problem he has had was gameplanning and being outsized against Fitch.

Diego:
Decent Standup. He looks good against wrestlers but he has tremendous deficiencies in his striking and I predict him to look horrible on his feet against BJ.
Decent Takedowns. He is persistent but his takedowns are not fluid and he comes up short alot.
Great in the scramble.
Great GNP
Very good Grappling.
GOOD Cardio, but his cardio has never been tested past 3 rounds.

Anybody disagree with the above?

As was made above, the comparison between Kos and BJ's striking has no bearing. Kos may be stronger but BJ is much faster with his hands and more accurate and much more fluid. Kos may have hit diego but BJ will counter him and hit him when he isn't expecting. Those are the shots that crack an iron chin.

1. BJ feels him out, jabs and stuffs his takedowns in the first
2. BJ picks up the pace, hurts him with a combination, takes him down, gets top position and submits him in the 2nd.

That is my prediction. :good

The old BJ, when he first entered the ufc I think Diego might give some trouble to and might even beat. BJ is too smart now and too patient. He's too intelligent now.

That's a good prediction on what the fight may look like. It may play out just like that. Or it may not. We never really know how a fight is gonna go because anything can happen in a fight.

Hughes shouldn't have beaten Penn in that rematch, but it happened. Penn's cardio failed him in a fight he was looking great in, and Hughes went in for the kill and finished him as soon as he smelled blood. Infact, Hughes was the first man to stop Penn.

Penn's Boxing is very good for MMA, but you're basing his Boxing against guys in recent past that couldn't touch him. Stevenson, Sherk, hell even Florian didn't wanna engage. Penn dictated all those fights pretty much. Diego is gonna wanna push the Pace. Like GSP did. That's the kind of fighter that can get to Penn. A relentless cardio freak.

I don't think Diego's TDA's are gonna put Penn on his back. I think we'll see BJ sprawl & brawl and keep it on the feet. But Sanchez is a big lightweight. Not as good of a wrestler as Sean Sherk, but brut strenght and persistance might play a factor. Constant persistance from Diego may cause some big problems in the later rounds. If BJ can keep it up all night, then he just may win, but if he can't, he's gonna get stopped.

[196osh]

. If BJ can keep it up all night, then he just may win, but if he can't, he's gonna get stopped.

This is just not the case at all.

[Dynamite Kid]

This is just not the case at all.

I don't know where you get that opinion from.

[196osh]

I don't know where you get that opinion from.

If BJ does not manage to keep the fight standiing he is going to get stopped?

So BJ wont be able to sweep deigo, submit him from the guard or manage to defend himself enough to keep himself from being stopped?

[Dynamite Kid]

If BJ does not manage to keep the fight standiing he is going to get stopped?

So BJ wont be able to sweep deigo, submit him from the guard or manage to defend himself enough to keep himself from being stopped?

Comprehend what you read before you comment. That's not what I said.

[196osh]

:patsch

My bad.

I thought you ment keep it up as in off the mat.

I apoligise.

[MrPook]

My bet is on the elbows:hey

[BewareofDawg]

That's a good prediction on what the fight may look like. It may play out just like that. Or it may not. We never really know how a fight is gonna go because anything can happen in a fight.
We never do know, I certainly don't know! My predictions have been straight shit lately. :lol:

Hughes shouldn't have beaten Penn in that rematch, but it happened. Penn's cardio failed him in a fight he was looking great in, and Hughes went in for the kill and finished him as soon as he smelled blood. Infact, Hughes was the first man to stop Penn.

To be fair, that was the freakiest thing I've ever seen. That was like Wlad gassing against Brewster :lol: I could not believe my eyes when I saw how BJ was in that 3rd round

Penn's Boxing is very good for MMA, but you're basing his Boxing against guys in recent past that couldn't touch him. Stevenson, Sherk, hell even Florian didn't wanna engage. Penn dictated all those fights pretty much. Diego is gonna wanna push the Pace. Like GSP did. That's the kind of fighter that can get to Penn. A relentless cardio freak.
This is the part of your post I really disagree with and I'll tell you why.
Stevensen was going at Diego until the final bell standing, he is just a limited "boxer" and Diego mixed up his attack and just beat him in a muay thai match pretty much. BJ destroyed stevensen. dropped him in like 5 seconds and then proceeded to beat on him.
Sherk is always a game striker and BJ rendered his striking useless and shut him down.
Florian was all ready to strike with BJ until he got rocked early and then went into retreat mode when he realized how fast BJs hands were and how skilled he actually was.

Penn dictated all of those fights because he could. He did better at dictating those fights then Diego was able to do with stevensen.

Diego's striking was made to look very bad against Koscheck, who himself isn't that good of a striker.

Also I'm not saying that Diego can't employ GSP's strategy and make it work, but I am extremely skeptical. Diego has not proven to be able to do ANYTHING as good as GSP can.

Also we don't know how Diego's cardio will be in a 5 round fight against an elite fighter. Frustration, punches to the face, panic all saps the gas tank.


:good

[SM0909128]

Sanchez by arm lock is what I want to see, however I wouldn't be surprised if BJ took it.

[Dynamite Kid]

We never do know, I certainly don't know! My predictions have been straight shit lately. :lol:


To be fair, that was the freakiest thing I've ever seen. That was like Wlad gassing against Brewster :lol: I could not believe my eyes when I saw how BJ was in that 3rd round

This is the part of your post I really disagree with and I'll tell you why.
Stevensen was going at Diego until the final bell standing, he is just a limited "boxer" and Diego mixed up his attack and just beat him in a muay thai match pretty much. BJ destroyed stevensen. dropped him in like 5 seconds and then proceeded to beat on him.
Sherk is always a game striker and BJ rendered his striking useless and shut him down.
Florian was all ready to strike with BJ until he got rocked early and then went into retreat mode when he realized how fast BJs hands were and how skilled he actually was.

Penn dictated all of those fights because he could. He did better at dictating those fights then Diego was able to do with stevensen.

Diego's striking was made to look very bad against Koscheck, who himself isn't that good of a striker.

Also I'm not saying that Diego can't employ GSP's strategy and make it work, but I am extremely skeptical. Diego has not proven to be able to do ANYTHING as good as GSP can.

Also we don't know how Diego's cardio will be in a 5 round fight against an elite fighter. Frustration, punches to the face, panic all saps the gas tank.


:good

Very true. I agree with this. We've never seen Diego go 5 rounds. But the logical implication from what we know him by suggests he can. We've seen BJ go 5 rounds against Pulver. The distance with Machida. The distance with Renzo. Very true. But he didn't look very impressive and the pace of those fights were unlike the one's Hughes & GSP put on him. He ended up getting punished in those fights.

Credit to BJ with imposing his better skills against Stevenson, Sherk, & Florian. But once BJ imposed himself, they didn't have an answer. You said Sherk is a GAME striker. Game as in he's still there and he's trying (credit to Sherk and that's very true) but it was obvious and his face told the story he quit on himself as well. Easy for me to say right? I wasn't the one fighting BJ Penn. Very true. However when sherk went down with the knee and BJ followed up with some punches, BJ kinda like waved his arms to Sherk to stop & stay down and Sherk did.

BJ IS NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SUGGEST TO DIEGO SANCHEZ WHAT TO DO:lol: He's not gonna be in a situation mentally where he's quit and is waiting to be flatlined or tapped out. His determination is great and he believes he can win no matter what. Fitch was just to big for him but not even a big 170 lber like that walked right through him. He didn't dominate, he just out muscled him.

Stevenson to his credit looked descent in the Sanchez fight. But you also have to take into consideration that was Diego's first fight at lightweight and Diego didn't fight like his true self. The weight cut was a problem and it was obvious Diego had his feet on the breaks and for some reason was flirting with a different style of Boxing in that fight with his fists kinda like pointed backwards it appeared like (we spoke about this before:lol:). Come on, do you really think Stevenson fought the real Diego? Had they fought when Stevenson was at 170 Diego would have murdered him:deal

The guida fight was also a difficult cut for Diego but he had every intension on fighting like his true self and he did and clearly whipped Guida's ass. Nearly had him KO'd on 2 occasions and fought a Sanchez type of fight.

I think if BJ is gonna win this fight, he's gonna have to reach for his stuff. Diego is not gonna fade down like Sherk, or fight just to survive like Florian tried. BJ is the best lightweight in the world but just because he's in his natural weight class doesn't mean he can't be tested there. There's always somebody out there for you and Diego might be that guy. We'll see how good BJ's cardio at 155 is when we see Diego fight him back. If anything, BJ Penn fans should be glad this fight is at 155, because had this fight taken place at 170 in 2006 around when Sanchez whipped Parisyan's ass, BJ would be dog food.

[sugarngold]

Penn via RNC in 5.

[BewareofDawg]

Very true. I agree with this. We've never seen Diego go 5 rounds. But the logical implication from what we know him by suggests he can. We've seen BJ go 5 rounds against Pulver. The distance with Machida. The distance with Renzo. Very true. But he didn't look very impressive and the pace of those fights were unlike the one's Hughes & GSP put on him. He ended up getting punished in those fights.

Credit to BJ with imposing his better skills against Stevenson, Sherk, & Florian. But once BJ imposed himself, they didn't have an answer. You said Sherk is a GAME striker. Game as in he's still there and he's trying (credit to Sherk and that's very true) but it was obvious and his face told the story he quit on himself as well. Easy for me to say right? I wasn't the one fighting BJ Penn. Very true. However when sherk went down with the knee and BJ followed up with some punches, BJ kinda like waved his arms to Sherk to stop & stay down and Sherk did.

BJ IS NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SUGGEST TO DIEGO SANCHEZ WHAT TO DO:lol: He's not gonna be in a situation mentally where he's quit and is waiting to be flatlined or tapped out. His determination is great and he believes he can win no matter what. Fitch was just to big for him but not even a big 170 lber like that walked right through him. He didn't dominate, he just out muscled him.

Stevenson to his credit looked descent in the Sanchez fight. But you also have to take into consideration that was Diego's first fight at lightweight and Diego didn't fight like his true self. The weight cut was a problem and it was obvious Diego had his feet on the breaks and for some reason was flirting with a different style of Boxing in that fight with his fists kinda like pointed backwards it appeared like (we spoke about this before:lol:). Come on, do you really think Stevenson fought the real Diego? Had they fought when Stevenson was at 170 Diego would have murdered him:deal

The guida fight was also a difficult cut for Diego but he had every intension on fighting like his true self and he did and clearly whipped Guida's ass. Nearly had him KO'd on 2 occasions and fought a Sanchez type of fight.

I think if BJ is gonna win this fight, he's gonna have to reach for his stuff. Diego is not gonna fade down like Sherk, or fight just to survive like Florian tried. BJ is the best lightweight in the world but just because he's in his natural weight class doesn't mean he can't be tested there. There's always somebody out there for you and Diego might be that guy. We'll see how good BJ's cardio at 155 is when we see Diego fight him back. If anything, BJ Penn fans should be glad this fight is at 155, because had this fight taken place at 170 in 2006 around when Sanchez whipped Parisyan's ass, BJ would be dog food.
I see what you're saying how Florian and Sherk just gave up. My point is that Diego may do that also, in fairness of course he never has in the past but neither had Florian or Sherk. It's like the look Penn and Hughes showed after GSP manraped them for a few rounds, they looked mentally beaten...and that was the first time they had ever felt that way. Well BJ has the ability to make people feel that for the first time as well.

Funny shit when BJ stopped the Sherk fight himself :lol:

And yes, Diego vs Stevensen (minus Diegos "put up your dukes" boxing style) I think Diego would murder him much the same Florian and Penn did :deal

We've talked about this before for sure, I used to LOVE watching diego man. Loved the guys fights. It was the Kos fight, the stevensen fight that made me feel a little strange about him. He just didn't seem to have the killer instinct anymore. But you pointed out he was sick against Kos and weight drained against Daddy. Which are good explanations.

[BewareofDawg]

Also Diego looked HUGE doing the yes cartwheel. How far out from the fight as that?

[Dynamite Kid]

Also Diego looked HUGE doing the yes cartwheel. How far out from the fight as that?

To be honest I'm not sure. That must have been maybe around when the fight was made official?:think

Cause he did look huge. Look like he was in the 170's.

[BewareofDawg]

To be honest I'm not sure. That must have been maybe around when the fight was made official?:think

Cause he did look huge. Look like he was in the 170's.
170's? :lol: Dude he looked about 190!

[Dynamite Kid]

170's? :lol: Dude he looked about 190!

:lol:

Perhaps. Just maybe. Diego is a big dude.

BJ & DS are 2 of the bigger lightweights in the division.

I don't count Tibau. That fuckin cheater:bart

[BewareofDawg]

:lol:

Perhaps. Just maybe. Diego is a big dude.

BJ & DS are 2 of the bigger lightweights in the division.

I don't count Tibau. That fuckin cheater:bart
Yeah Tibau is a monster :lol: Etim is a big LW too, also has a lot of potential that kid

[jimmie]

BJ not sure how but picked TKO just for the hell of it. Diego has improved his striking but its still alittle wild and he leaves his chin dangling over his lead foot still to much IMO. BJ doesnt have much of a leg attack game but he has good kick blocking skills and will check Diego's kicks. Where the big skill gap standup is in the boxing ive mentioned what Diego does and BJ has a great jab to disrupt Diego's fast pace and an uppercut a hell of an uppercut to take advantage of Diego leaning in like he does.

Diego has decent wrestling but he doesnt have great takedowns his takedown precentage is actually pretty low and you gotta be on a GSP level to get BJ Penn down at this point in his career. If the fight does hit the ground BJs BJJ game is still much tighter and smooth and overall about 2 levels higher. Diego is a very very good fighter maybe better then the Florian or Sherk that BJ has fought most recently but IMO he has no advantage on BJ besides from cardio. However Diego has never fought 5 rounds and BJs has likely improved he went 4 rounds with Florian and absolutley dominated him in that last round and finished him.

[jimmie]

Yeah Tibau is a monster :lol: Etim is a big LW too, also has a lot of potential that kid

Tibau looks like a fucking Middleweight :yep

[codeman99998]

If anything, BJ Penn fans should be glad this fight is at 155, because had this fight taken place at 170 in 2006 around when Sanchez whipped Parisyan's ass, BJ would be dog food.

I pick Penn over Sanchez at any weight. BJ Penn beat Prime Hughes at welterweight (and SHOULD have beaten him twice except he gassed, which is no excuse, Hughes won but Penn should have come in better shape and he will be in better shape this fight) and gave GSP a damn good fight.

BJ isn't dog food to Sanchez at any weight, even IF he loses.

[Vitor Belfort]

Penn by rear naked choke:good

[Locnott]

Penn RNC round 2
Same but rd 3:dead

[Dynamite Kid]

I pick Penn over Sanchez at any weight. BJ Penn beat Prime Hughes at welterweight (and SHOULD have beaten him twice except he gassed, which is no excuse, Hughes won but Penn should have come in better shape and he will be in better shape this fight) and gave GSP a damn good fight.

BJ isn't dog food to Sanchez at any weight, even IF he loses.

Gave GSP a good fight? I hope you mean the first fight, which he eventually gassed in that one too. BJ is a descent 170 lb fighter at best dude. He's not great. Beating Hughes was his only accomplishment at 170 in the UFC. Since then he's 1-2 at welterweight in the UFC. Yeah his losses came from the top of the food chain in the weight class (Hughes & GSP) but do you really think BJ can beat a guy like Thiago Alves? I hope not. I wouldn't even wanna see some shit like that:-(

Sure BJ would look great at first against Diego. Stuffing TDA's, Boxing, using his jab, but BJ's gas tank against 170 lbers is limited. BJ & Diego were actually supposed to fight in 06 but the fight got scrapped. Diego would have ended up man raping BJ had they fought back then. BJ hadn't focused on his cardio yet. Diego was undefeated & running through everyone put in front of him in that time. Diego wanted to fight Hughes back then. In 06 BJ hadn't realized the importance of cardio yet, after that fight he would have needed an oxygen mask like Koscheck used after experiencing Diego for the first time:deal

[rusty nails]

sanchez by ko in a hectic fight.
its tough to call and i can see either fighter taking it multiple ways.
i just think diegos pretty good on the ground and wont be submitted plus hes stronger than bj.
i see him pushing the pace and cardio aspect past penns limit.
penns getting a little old now too.

[codeman99998]

Gave GSP a good fight? I hope you mean the first fight, which he eventually gassed in that one too. BJ is a descent 170 lb fighter at best dude. He's not great. Beating Hughes was his only accomplishment at 170 in the UFC. Since then he's 1-2 at welterweight in the UFC. Yeah his losses came from the top of the food chain in the weight class (Hughes & GSP) but do you really think BJ can beat a guy like Thiago Alves? I hope not. I wouldn't even wanna see some shit like that

Sure BJ would look great at first against Diego. Stuffing TDA's, Boxing, using his jab, but BJ's gas tank against 170 lbers is limited. BJ & Diego were actually supposed to fight in 06 but the fight got scrapped. Diego would have ended up man raping BJ had they fought back then. BJ hadn't focused on his cardio yet. Diego was undefeated & running through everyone put in front of him in that time. Diego wanted to fight Hughes back then. In 06 BJ hadn't realized the importance of cardio yet, after that fight he would have needed an oxygen mask like Koscheck used after experiencing Diego for the first time

I did mean the first GSP fight,of course. I never said BJ Penn could beat Thiago Alves, and I don't really understand how that is relevant at all. It's not like DIEGO beat Thiago Alves or anything. As a matter of fact, Diego has never beaten a top 5 welterweight so I don't understand why you think he was so amazing. Do you think BJ Penn would have been thoroughly and utterly outstruck with ease by Josh Koscheck? Diego's cardio sure didn't help him in that fight.

I'll give you full props if Diego turns out to win against Penn but seriously, Diego wasn't exactly a one of the best at welter. He beat some good welters and lost to some better ones. At Lightweight he's looked great so far, dispatching Guida and Joe Daddy, but beating either of these fighters means very little going against BJ Penn. Guida MAY be a better wrestler than Penn in some abstract(though Penn has way way better TDA), but other than that BJ is considerably better than both fighters at everything.

[Dynamite Kid]

I did mean the first GSP fight,of course. I never said BJ Penn could beat Thiago Alves, and I don't really understand how that is relevant at all. It's not like DIEGO beat Thiago Alves or anything. As a matter of fact, Diego has never beaten a top 5 welterweight so I don't understand why you think he was so amazing. Do you think BJ Penn would have been thoroughly and utterly outstruck with ease by Josh Koscheck? Diego's cardio sure didn't help him in that fight.

I'll give you full props if Diego turns out to win against Penn but seriously, Diego wasn't exactly a one of the best at welter. He beat some good welters and lost to some better ones. At Lightweight he's looked great so far, dispatching Guida and Joe Daddy, but beating either of these fighters means very little going against BJ Penn. Guida MAY be a better wrestler than Penn in some abstract(though Penn has way way better TDA), but other than that BJ is considerably better than both fighters at everything.

I stopped reading after you said Diego never beat a top 5 welterweight.

I guess Karo Parisyan is a bum to you huh?

:-(

And for the record, Diego can beat Alves.

[196osh]

Since when does his opinion Karo was not top 5 make him a bum?

Your a good poster man, but kinda sensitive when it comes to Diego.

[Dynamite Kid]

Since when does his opinion Karo was not top 5 make him a bum?

Your a good poster man, but kinda sensitive when it comes to Diego.

:lol:

Like a whole bunch of fighters (in MMA & Boxing) I saw Diego come up. I have his old fights from KOTC and I root for my favorite fighters the way people root for they're favorite teams. Not that BJ isn't one of my favorite fighters because he is. I just wanna see Diego finally have his time. I'm a big time fight fan.

And yeah, for codeman to say Diego never beat a top 5 welterweight is absolutely absurd, or he simply doesn't know what he's talking about. Parisyan was top 5, if not top 3 in 2006. He was gonna fight Hughes at UFC 56 but had to pull out because of injury. Against Diego is the only time Karo was really handled with no argument. He got punished. To ignore that like it means nothing to discredit Diego isn't cool.

[Spunik]

I hope Diego wins....

[Delroc]

iam pulling for sanchez to tko bj, i know its a long shot but after watching that count down and seeing those stare down picks diego looks intense and focused and i hope he goes nuts and catches bj flush with something.

LETS GO DIEGO!!!!

[Flexb]

I think Diego is more dangerous than penn standing.

[TheBradyHawkes]

You can't count Sanchez out of this fight, and I'm surprised some are giving him no chance. Both of these guys are warriors.

[Flexb]

You can't count Sanchez out of this fight, and I'm surprised some are giving him no chance. Both of these guys are warriors.

I just think BJ has so much experience with championship fights and is such a vet. It's not like he's on his downward slop, not yet anyway. But Diego is so mentally and physically tough and I think he'd rather die than lose. I give the edge to BJ but Diego isn't going anywhere and is going to take Penn to the limit. I want Diego to win, but pick BJ by RNC. I hope this doesn't happen though.

[chimba]

BJ chokes this weirdo, are you guys kidding?? Diegos run ends here.

His sloppy brand of JJ just aint going to cut it, if he even gets to use it.

[Dynamite Kid]

BJ chokes this weirdo, are you guys kidding?? Diegos run ends here.

His sloppy brand of JJ just aint going to cut it, if he even gets to use it.

Diego trains under Saulo. Don't sleep on that.

[196osh]

Diego trains under Saulo. Don't sleep on that.

BJ's Jiu Jitsu is in a different class to Diego's, imo. That will be one of the man differences, in this fight.

[Dynamite Kid]

BJ's Jiu Jitsu is in a different class to Diego's, imo. That will be one of the man differences, in this fight.

I very much agree. But when you train under a great instructor that helps alot. Sure BJ's JJ is gonna be sharper & tighter, overall on another level. But as long as Diego can protect himself and compete on a decent level can make all the difference.

For example. NOG is a better JJ fighter than Mir. But Mir won't subbed by NOG without a battle. Mir knows what he's doing on the ground too. Of course if it goes long enough the better JJ guy may catch his opponent, but atleast being on descent level helps alot.

[196osh]

The issue with BJ is he can commit violence on a guy till he makes a mistake, and BJ is not a submissions guy. He is a guy who will beat the crap out of a guy then see an opertunity and sub him, rather than Mir for example who throws up subs.

BJ has thee best technical JJ at 155, and amongst the best of the well rounded MMA non grappling specific fighters in any weight classs. BJ is also dominant from the top and has some of the best TD defence that you will see in any weight class. Hell GSP had more issues taking down Penn than nearly any other fighter he has faced.

[Dynamite Kid]

The issue with BJ is he can commit violence on a guy till he makes a mistake, and BJ is not a submissions guy. He is a guy who will beat the crap out of a guy then see an opertunity and sub him, rather than Mir for example who throws up subs.

BJ has thee best technical JJ at 155, and amongst the best of the well rounded MMA non grappling specific fighters in any weight classs. BJ is also dominant from the top and has some of the best TD defence that you will see in any weight class. Hell GSP had more issues taking down Penn than nearly any other fighter he has faced.

Yeah GSP was taking down Alves & Fitch easily. BJ's TDD is awesome especially early on.

[jimmie]

Yeah GSP was taking down Alves & Fitch easily. BJ's TDD is awesome especially early on.

Yup shit remember BJ sprawling on Matt Hughes with 1 leg ? :-( Crazy takedown defense there. Im so stocked for tonight I keep sweating and bouncing around and I still got 7 hours.

[Dynamite Kid]

Yup shit remember BJ sprawling on Matt Hughes with 1 leg ? :-( Crazy takedown defense there. Im so stocked for tonight I keep sweating and bouncing around and I still got 7 hours.

Hell yeah. I couldn't believe what I was watching. That shit was awesome.

I'm stoked to man. I'm watching Spike TV right now watching the UFC unleashed marathon and getting the drinks and junk food together for later on. Fight nights are always my favorite time.

:happy:happy:happy

[québecwarrior]

It would be nice to see Sanchez win the title. But I don't cheer for no one really...
I just want to see a great fight. That could be the FOTY

[jimmie]

Hell yeah. I couldn't believe what I was watching. That shit was awesome.

I'm stoked to man. I'm watching Spike TV right now watching the UFC unleashed marathon and getting the drinks and junk food together for later on. Fight nights are always my favorite time.

:happy:happy:happy

Oh shit thanks for the tip I just turned on Spike. Im also watching fights from all the main card fighters like I usually do right now im watching Stefan Struve and Paul Buentello fights. I hear that on the junk food im undecided on what I want right now but around 9 ill make a short drive maybe for some pizza or something. Do you watch alone ? I cant stand watching big fights with people anymore its more expensive but I enjoy it alone.

[québecwarrior]

Oh shit thanks for the tip I just turned on Spike. Im also watching fights from all the main card fighters like I usually do right now im watching Stefan Struve and Paul Buentello fights. I hear that on the junk food im undecided on what I want right now but around 9 ill make a short drive maybe for some pizza or something. Do you watch alone ? I cant stand watching big fights with people anymore its more expensive but I enjoy it alone.
:good:good:good
I hate watching it with friends or my girlfriend............
THEY ALWAYS FUCKIN TALK.

I like to watch it in silence.

[jimmie]

:good:good:good
I hate watching it with friends or my girlfriend............
THEY ALWAYS FUCKIN TALK.

I like to watch it in silence.

Damn straight man. For the Spike card UFC 105 last month about 20 minutes before it starts my freind calls and says hey can I come watch it ? Im kinda leary but not to hurt his feelings im like sure come on over. Well for the entire 3 hour event he was quiet maybe 12 minutes tops :-( I literally watched the entire replay afterwards because I hadnt a fucking clue what had happened. I told him you aint coming over for the PPV next week so dont even ask.

[tri-pod]

Oh shit thanks for the tip I just turned on Spike. Im also watching fights from all the main card fighters like I usually do right now im watching Stefan Struve and Paul Buentello fights. I hear that on the junk food im undecided on what I want right now but around 9 ill make a short drive maybe for some pizza or something. Do you watch alone ? I cant stand watching big fights with people anymore its more expensive but I enjoy it alone.


I only watch it alone, because I have no friends into UFC or boxing.

I have shit for finances and haven't been able to get a UFC PPV since UFC 92. :sad2

Terribly awful. So I will be expecting a Play by play from people watching tonight if ESB is still up and running. :D

[tri-pod]

Damn straight man. For the Spike card UFC 105 last month about 20 minutes before it starts my freind calls and says hey can I come watch it ? Im kinda leary but not to hurt his feelings im like sure come on over. Well for the entire 3 hour event he was quiet maybe 12 minutes tops :-( I literally watched the entire replay afterwards because I hadnt a fucking clue what had happened. I told him you aint coming over for the PPV next week so dont even ask.


Same thing happened to me way back at UFC 92. :lol: My friend comes over and wants to watch it and before the second fight started he was already stating he was bored and we should go do something. Never mind the fact I wanted to watch it, but money is tight and I dropped a good 50 bucks on that shit. No way in hell was I leaving.

[Dynamite Kid]

Oh shit thanks for the tip I just turned on Spike. Im also watching fights from all the main card fighters like I usually do right now im watching Stefan Struve and Paul Buentello fights. I hear that on the junk food im undecided on what I want right now but around 9 ill make a short drive maybe for some pizza or something. Do you watch alone ? I cant stand watching big fights with people anymore its more expensive but I enjoy it alone.

Sometimes I watch alone. Sometimes I watch with my parents. Very rare I have 2 or 3 people come over. Tonight I'm just watching with my cousin. More times than not we go for the same people so we can be bias:lol:

I feel you on the alone though. I like watching the fights by myself in slience. I watched UFC 92 alone and I was going crazy & yelling by myself. It was awesome. But when I do have people come over I make them either chip in for the event or they're bringing the drinks:lol:

[Dynamite Kid]

:good:good:good
I hate watching it with friends or my girlfriend............
THEY ALWAYS FUCKIN TALK.

I like to watch it in silence.

:good

[jimmie]

Same thing happened to me way back at UFC 92. :lol: My friend comes over and wants to watch it and before the second fight started he was already stating he was bored and we should go do something. Never mind the fact I wanted to watch it, but money is tight and I dropped a good 50 bucks on that shit. No way in hell was I leaving.

:-( Assholes wanna come over so bad talk the entire time then say they are bored you should have punched him in the gut. Did he give you any money for the PPV ?

[tri-pod]

:-( Assholes wanna come over so bad talk the entire time then say they are bored you should have punched him in the gut. Did he give you any money for the PPV ?

He came over unannounced (which is fine because we do that all the time) but on fight night its a big no no. :nono So I didn't make him pay, instead I just watched it again via recording. :D He didn't stick around to much after I was watching it again and I actually got to hear Rampage left hook Silva to hell after he left.

[Beebs]

People are overthinking this; BJ is clearly a better fighter and it will show.

[SMASHER YATES]

The Prodigy vs. The Nightmare, who wins & how?
:huhi reckon this is a first for me.....i seriously cant decide,i like and follow both:huh:think.......

[Burundanga]

BJ by massive gash to Diego's head after nearly five rounds of domination.

[196osh]

Oh.....

You are good. :good

[Dynamite Kid]

BJ by massive gash to Diego's head after nearly five rounds of domination.

I will cheat next time and get MY prediction from you:yep

Damn you were on point:deal

[Vitor Belfort]

Damnnn i predicted rear naked choke but boy was i wrong. I think it ended better than i was expecting.

Pulver-Stevenson-Sherk-Florian-Sanchez.. who's next? BJ is dominating the top contenders at 155.