Did anyone read ESBs' Calzaghe write up?

[Mrvooh]

By Lee Hayes? Interesting, and nearly 140 responses last I looked :yikes

[brooklyn1550]

This fight is 50/50 among fans...his article was a good read, but I disagree with it.

Calzaghe by UD

[Boro chris]

I don't think this article was as contraversial as some people would have it and I think the author paints a very possible scenario. (although I disagree with his assertion that Joe has a questionable chin!)
Where some of my fellow brits have developed a bit of a chip on their shoulder is the perception that their fighters are often asumed to loose any competitive matchup. (JC-Lacy,Hatton-KT,Witter-Harris,Lewis vs anyone remotely threatening).
This often leads to spot of american bashing who depending on your opinion are either convinient targets or arrgantly dismissive of Euro fighters.


Joe md Kessler in a contraversial match!

[He Hate Me]

It's the follow up fight Im looking forward to because it will be in the states, Calzaghe can't hide anymore if he wins.

[Boro chris]

It's the follow up fight Im looking forward to because it will be in the states, Calzaghe can't hide anymore if he wins.

Who do you think that will be?

[satyriion]

Taylor vs. winner nov3

[DanePugilist]

It was a good article, even if I just feels he has lost confidence in his fave fighter - not that I blame him. Kessler will be the new p4p king.

[China_hand_Joe]

A good article I thought.

If Calzaghe somehow defies logic and wins, he has to go down as the GOAT.

[DanePugilist]

A good article I thought.

If Calzaghe somehow defies logic and wins, he has to go down as the GOAT.Sadly we are few who will acknowledge that..:lol:

If he looses he will still go down as S.H.E.E.P; Super Hero Enhanced Equilibristic Puncher

[China_hand_Joe]

Can you think of any instance of someone at the stage of their career Calzaghe is at ever beating someone like Kessler?

Ali against Foreman perhaps?

[DanePugilist]

Can you think of any instance of someone at the stage of their career Calzaghe is at ever beating someone like Kessler?

Ali against Foreman perhaps?Ali-Foreman is a good bet. Maybe Ali handled sauna better than Foreman - will JC handle the frost better?

[Amsterdam]

A good article I thought.

If Calzaghe somehow defies logic and wins, he has to go down as the GOAT.

You damn well know Joe will win.:yep

[DanePugilist]

You damn well know Joe will win.:yep:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl - CHJ has these dreams - some call them nightmares, I call them visions.

[Amsterdam]

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl - CHJ has these dreams - some call them nightmares, I call them visions.

I simply call it propaganda. However, the winner of this bout is cemented as one of the P4P top elite regardless, and by that, I mean the true P4P elite that informed fans would agree on.:D

Sorry, no aging Bernard Hopkins who at this point will never face a live LHW.:lol:

By the way, Arce vs. Nonito Donaire is being made. Nonito is going to get KTFO, everyone's high on the Darchinyan conqueror also, won't be a big deal to me because Arce has the experience and slight style advantage, but it'll make Mijares look good for blowing him out!:D

[China_hand_Joe]

You damn well know Joe will win.:yepKessler will win you, unobjective lunatic.

Kessler is the favorite going in to this. Not the betting favorite, but the logical favorite. A massive one at that.

[Amsterdam]

Kessler will win you, unobjective lunatic.

Kessler is the favorite going in to this. Not the betting favorite, but the logical favorite. A massive one at that.

Kessler may get Lacy'd.

[China_hand_Joe]

Impossible.

Kessler is easily one of the ten best fighters of the past decade, it will not happen.

[DanePugilist]

Kessler will win you, unobjective lunatic.

Kessler is the favorite going in to this. Not the betting favorite, but the logical favorite. A massive one at that.There is only one thing left for you to do; bet a ton of money on Kessler - J/K.

[Amsterdam]

There is only one thing left for you to do; bet a ton of money on Kessler - J/K.

Don't listen to the propaganda, he knows Joe is going to put a Lacy on Kessler.

[China_hand_Joe]

There is only one thing left for you to do; bet a ton of money on Kessler - J/K.Do you think the odds are as long as they are going to get, mate?

[DanePugilist]

I just secured 38 fights of Calzaghe - gonna do some more thorough study.

[DanePugilist]

Don't listen to the propaganda, he knows Joe is going to put a Lacy on Kessler.Must be laces, as in open glove:lol:

[Amsterdam]

I just secured 38 fights of Calzaghe - gonna do some more thorough study.

It'll ruin your hopes.

[DanePugilist]

Do you think the odds are as long as they are going to get, mate?Well, for each passing day the bookies will be more aware of Kesslers abilities, and will (rightfully or not) doubt JCs ability to withstand the youngster.

[DanePugilist]

It'll ruin your hopes.Well - doesn't matter - I rather go into a fight without any illusions.

[sues2nd]

Sadly we are few who will acknowledge that..:lol:

If he looses he will still go down as S.H.E.E.P; Super Hero Enhanced Equilibristic Puncher

:lol:

That was a good one....:good

[DanePugilist]

:lol:

That was a good one....:goodThank you, your "fading into Bolivian" is not half bad either:lol::cool:

[China_hand_Joe]

Well, for each passing day the bookies will be more aware of Kesslers abilities, and will (rightfully or not) doubt JCs ability to withstand the youngster.

What about the huge number of wagers placed on Calzaghe by the Brits right before the fight?

[DanePugilist]

What about the huge number of wagers placed on Calzaghe by the Brits right before the fight?Will press down the odds further, its not like they need to bait them with big odds anyway - but what do I know - I never do bets:lol: - sorry that was just gibberish I just wrote - yes you are right - waiting might be best.

[China_hand_Joe]

Perhaps betting about 2.5 weeks before the fight, on Calzaghe would be best.

[DanePugilist]

Perhaps betting about 2.5 weeks before the fight, on Calzaghe would be best.Well, why would you wanna throw money out of the window?:nut:rofl

[China_hand_Joe]

Like how Kessler is throwing his entire career and well-being out the window for one pay-day?

[DanePugilist]

Nah - just kidding - only suggested Kessler due to the statement of good odds. Bet with your heart, and if the mind and gut tells you the same, then why not.

[DanePugilist]

Like how Kessler is throwing his entire career and well-being out the window for one pay-day?What would his career be worth if he never met a Calzaghe?

[China_hand_Joe]

Well it is best he does actually face Calzaghe.

Hammering Calzaghe will do Mikkel's reputation the world of good, especially given how overlooked by America Mikkel is.

This is no risk (a win highly likely) massive reward for Kessler.

[DanePugilist]

Well it is best he does actually face Calzaghe.

Hammering Calzaghe will do Mikkel's reputation the world of good, especially given how overlooked by America Mikkel is.

This is no risk (a win highly likely) massive reward for Kessler.It's great risk - all he has accomplished thus far will go into the hands of Calzaghe, but what would it be worth if he didn't face Calzaghe.

On the other side of the table - Kessler is the best thing for Calzaghe too - unfortunately Kessler is not as reknowned as his abilities acquire, but I guess you know that song...

[THN]

Kessler is doing the rigth thing, Calzaghe should have done the same,
then nobody would have to quistion your legacy

[cross_trainer]

This is no risk (a win highly likely) massive reward for Kessler.

Considering Calzaghe came off his career's best performance a short time ago, I doubt it. There will be no excuses for Calzaghe--if he loses, it's because Kessler is the superior fighter.

[DanePugilist]

Considering Calzaghe came off his career's best performance a short time ago, I doubt it. There will be no excuses for Calzaghe--if he loses, it's because Kessler is the superior fighter.yeps, there shouldn't be excuses for either fighter.

[China_hand_Joe]

Considering Calzaghe came off his career's best performance a short time ago, I doubt it. There will be no excuses for Calzaghe--if he loses, it's because Kessler is the superior fighter.Then take into consideration his last two performances. The Lacy fight was just a last hurrah before age set in.

The Lacy fight was a good performance years outside Joe's prime. The Calzaghe from the Mitchell fight and first Veit fight would have had no problems stopping Lacy.

[GABBY]

Its no doubt going to be a tough fight , but calzaghe will win he is to fast and experienced for kessler.
I am not taking anything away from kessler he is after calzaghe the best around, he has a good jab and can punch. But my faith is in calzaghe to stop him in the later rounds.
I watched the interview calzaghe gave on u-tube, its good to see the respect both boxers have for each other, but come november 3rd it will be party time in wales .

[China_hand_Joe]

Its no doubt going to be a tough fight , but calzaghe will win he is to fast and experienced for kessler.
I am not taking anything away from kessler he is after calzaghe the best around, he has a good jab and can punch. But my faith is in calzaghe to stop him in the later rounds.
I watched the interview calzaghe gave on u-tube, its good to see the respect both boxers have for each other, but come november 3rd it will be party time in wales .

It is like Calzaghe fans are all part of some religion, all of them having their faith in Joe.

But when you stop to really think about the fight, with our minds rather than our faith, it is clear Kessler is going to win. Kessler is just too good for anyone the age of Joe, Calzaghe may be the best of the last decade, but he is older now and Kessler is also top ten P4P from 97-07. It is just too much.

[GABBY]

It is like Calzaghe fans are all part of some religion, all of them having their faith in Joe.

But when you stop to really think about the fight, with our minds rather than our faith, it is clear Kessler is going to win. Kessler is just too good for anyone the age of Joe, Calzaghe may be the best of the last decade, but he is older now and Kessler is also top ten P4P from 97-07. It is just too much.


I disagree in my mind calzaghe will stop kessler , maybe joe will hang his gloves up then , who no's but he has nothing to prove to anyone and IMO when he gets kessler out of the way I will have made a few BoB at the Bookies.

[GABBY]

Trying to get some water out of your ear?


no my neck is broke, just like you will be broke if you bet on kessler :bart

[rydersonthestorm]

Who has kessler beat for him to be one of the best fighters from the last decade, if he beats calzaghe he might get a shot at being top 10 but until then you are way off the mark.

[China_hand_Joe]

Who has kessler beat for him to be one of the best fighters from the last decade, if he beats calzaghe he might get a shot at being top 10 but until then you are way off the mark.

Until then I am off the mark?

No, no, no. I am right on the mark, until Kessler wins I am just demonstrating my brilliant fore-sight that the rest of the world lacks.

[China_hand_Joe]

I disagree in my mind calzaghe will stop kessler , maybe joe will hang his gloves up then , who no's but he has nothing to prove to anyone and IMO when he gets kessler out of the way I will have made a few BoB at the Bookies.

Are you sure we don't just think that because we are British?

[Bigcat]

Joe will batter Kessler..

They all reckon they can handle joe until midway through the second round when they realise that Jo throws a load of shots and almost all of them land somewhere hurtful..

[GABBY]

Are you sure we don't just think that because we are British?


no i dont , i am not Bias just stating the facts that calzaghe will not be beaten by Kessler.



so you think different then :(

[boxfan99]

no i dont , i am not Bias just stating the facts that calzaghe will not be beaten by Kessler.



so you think different then :(

Since you are not biased, who do think will win the PBF-Hatton fight?:p

[GABBY]

Since you are not biased, who do think will win the PBF-Hatton fight?:p



UD Hatton.

[boxfan99]

UD Hatton.

What a surprise.:D

[DanePugilist]

What a surprise.:D:lol: