I reckon Khan beats bradley

[20a87]

Lots of comments floating about that bradley would starch khan, i don't see bradley as a big hitter and khan looks strong at 140. Khan is faster and bradley admitted he prefers to box from the outside yet cant see him being able to adopt that tactic with khans in and out style.

Don't get me wrong I rate Bradley but I can't see how he wins this, interesting technical battle - khan comfortable UD

[TFFP]

Brave call, I think you're underestimating Bradley's versatility a fair bit. He probably prefers it on the outside but he's shown numerous times that if he has to he'll do it the hard way with pure come forward aggression and volume.

[zico2010]

Could go either way i reckon. I think Khan has the edge in speed and power, but Bradley is solid, more experienced and has a much better defense. Khan has it in him to just explode and blow Bradley away, but Beadley could just as easily take a points decision as Khan.

[Rebel-INS]

Could go either way i reckon. I think Khan has the edge in speed and power, but Bradley is solid, more experienced and has a much better defense. Khan has it in him to just explode and blow Bradley away, but Beadley could just as easily take a points decision as Khan.

I doubt that, Khan isn't a huge hitter and Bradley seems to have a very decent chin.

[TFFP]

Bradley has a thick set neck, he's like a little bull. You'd have to go some to knock him out I think, but Holt stunned him a fair bit.

[Losfer_Words]

Lots of comments floating about that bradley would starch khan, i don't see bradley as a big hitter and khan looks strong at 140. Khan is faster and bradley admitted he prefers to box from the outside yet cant see him being able to adopt that tactic with khans in and out style.

Don't get me wrong I rate Bradley but I can't see how he wins this, interesting technical battle - khan comfortable UD

I actually agree:good. I don't think it's the best next move for Khan, but I think he has a very good chance of beating Bradley should they meet in a few fights time (or even next). Khan's newfound ability to stick to a gameplan, his far superior speed and his size and reach could well lead to a win on points. The inevitable chin topic will be brought up, but Bradley isn't a huge hitter himself; that said, he seems to have improved on his power recently. Even before the butt he was hurting Campbell, and he dropped Peterson for the very first time as well as buzzing him.

Bradley has a thick set neck, he's like a little bull. You'd have to go some to knock him out I think, but Holt stunned him a fair bit.

This is key for me as well. He has been stunned before, but has never looked in trouble. Let's forget the Salita fight for a moment when we assess Khan's power as well as he has never possessed one-punch KO power before- with that in mind, he won't KO 'Desert Storm', IMHO. With Khan's speed a huge factor in the fight, I think he could well find enough openings to stun Bradley. Maybe Khan could stop him on accumulation, but it would take something to KO Bradley outright and I don't see it happening.

Khan UD, IMO.

[BURNLEYBLUE]

Bradley's a good solid champion,who surpasses himself with every defence. Does everything well but nothing great. Certainly a winable fight for Kahn,who would outspeed, and now that he seems to be planting his feet more, mix in the power shots and hurt Bradley. I see this as a coming of age fight for Kahn. Hope it comes off.
Prospect of Bradley,Maidana,Campbell or Alexander makes for an exciting year for Kahn.
Hopefully the Hatton fight is'nt made.

[kosaros]

We will finally see how Khan will cope with a world class pressure fighter if he is to fight Bradley. I always think back to how much a blown up and past it Gomez knocked Khan down and hurt him to the body on a couple of occassions. Sure he has improved his game a lot since then, but who else has he fought that was a pressure fighter since then - Prescott? Fagan? Not the best practice for arguably the best light-welter in the world right now.

At the moment I see Khan building a points advantage but getting stopped late on in the fight.

[mcguirpa]

I'm on record in this forum (and have been shot down in flames for saying it) as believeing that Bradley has the potential to be a future great of the sport.

But...

I also believe that he could be beaten by a boxer who is absolutely outstanding in some department. And Khan does have outstanding speed. I think between them him and Roach could put something together to give Khan a real chance of winning. 1000 pitty-pats off the back foot could see Khan take a comfortable points decision. The question is whether Bradley and Diaz can come up with a plan to stifle Khans speed effectively.

[Top Dog]

Lots of comments floating about that bradley would starch khan, i don't see bradley as a big hitter and khan looks strong at 140. Khan is faster and bradley admitted he prefers to box from the outside yet cant see him being able to adopt that tactic with khans in and out style.

Don't get me wrong I rate Bradley but I can't see how he wins this, interesting technical battle - khan comfortable UD

Eh, whilst I agree with you about Bradley not being a huge puncher, you dont NEED ro be a huge puncher to beat Khan. Khan is fast, no doubt, and is improving all the time, but a sharp, stiff puncher will put him away, not saying he will but certainly has the tools to beat Khan.

[boxing4eva]

Bradley might not be a massive puncher but he's enough of a puncher to have Khan chicken dancing. I don't see how Khan could go 12 rounds without getting caught by him at least once, so for me the I would go with Bradley TKO

[RJD]

The step up will be too big imo. He should fight a real contender to see where he's at first (ie Maidana). It's not like the Bradley fight is going to be a huge money maker either. Too much risk for little reward. Good on him if he decides to take the fight though.

[Mandanda]

Khan knocked out a guy that was floored by journeymen and tomato cans. So lets get his power into some perspective here. Speed is a great tool to have but when you fight a man with skills it can be negated. Bradley is no slouch and as said above his neck is thick,He keeps his chin down, And has very sharp reactions and slips shots and counters very well as seen when flooring Edner Cherry.

Also the Holt knockdowns were due to him being over aggressive and lunging in and getting countered. He went on to win which shows a lot about him as a champion. Khan hasn't fought anyone like Timothy, Khan hasn't been pressured effectively since joining Roach and hasn't fought a decent sharp puncher yet. He's not fought anyone who has speed of hand or foot but in saying that Timothy hasn't fought anyone as quick as Khan but i favor him in this battle.

[Mazallan]

Khan by KO in round 8.

[Lee Mc]

If it was today then I'd say it was a 50/50 fight but I see Khan progressing and learning as a fighter under the guidance of Roach. This time next year I see Khan simply out-boxing Bradley and winning a wide UD.

[faisal]

i'd like to see how he does against a top 10 LWW before i see him in with bradley

[trotter]

i'd like to see how he does against a top 10 LWW before i see him in with bradley

Yeah, that's my take on it. Kotelnik was a decent win.

But that doesn't justify thinking he can now beat Bradley - probably the no.1 LWW right now, as I don't really count Hatton (he's vanished off to marquee fight land).

What's more there is no need to fight someone like Bradley just yet, he should have one or two more 'winnable' fights to get his confidence fully back, deal with a shot or two, etc etc

[Bonavena25]

I've been a massive fan of Bradley since the Witter fight - and was quite surprised when most people on ESB weren't convinced by him. He always seemed to have 'it' and have that natural intuition in the ring that is hard to teach. The fact it was Witter he beat is probably the reason for that though.

I think he would be too much for Khan. He would get inside and spark Khan out with Khan losing concentration and going backwards instead of sideways.

[Benjiabc]

This is a very interesting fight i feel. I have been very impressed with Khan since moving up to 140. he would clearly have the advantage in speed, and bradley is far from slow!

But i cant help feeling that bradley is a little too clever and versatile. Plus hes very solid and would take some beating. I am finding it hard to make a prediction on this one.

But my early feeling is for bradley

[The Chameleon Boxer]

I think that the talk of fighting Timothy Bradley is too soon. Timothy Bradley at this stage would beat Khan. We can all see that Khan is improving, he's adding more power, listening to his corner, he's not falling into any wars, improving his ringmanship etc.

But, Bradley is a special boxer. he can adapt to different types of fighters and always finds a way to win. Khan's biggest strength is his speed, but Bradley is just as quick as Khan. He also has great reflexes and will be able to see Khan's punches better than Kotelnik or Salita.

The thing is, we all know Khan has great footwork and reflexes, but when you look at Khan's CV, you'll see that Khan hasn't faced a guy as quick as Timothy Bradley and Bradley also has the power to put Khan away.

My take on this would be to first, get Khan to fight a tough fighter, that will take Khan's punches and will be able to match Khan's handspeed to test his reflexes but won't be a risk to put him away and then we can possibly talk about a Khan - Bradley unification at around August/September 2010.

The guy that comes to mind - PAULIE MALIGNAGGI.

[Benjiabc]

I think that the talk of fighting Timothy Bradley is too soon. Timothy Bradley at this stage would beat Khan. We can all see that Khan is improving, he's adding more power, listening to his corner, he's not falling into any wars, improving his ringmanship etc.

But, Bradley is a special boxer. he can adapt to different types of fighters and always finds a way to win. Khan's biggest strength is his speed, but Bradley is just as quick as Khan. He also has great reflexes and will be able to see Khan's punches better than Kotelnik or Salita.

The thing is, we all know Khan has great footwork and reflexes, but when you look at Khan's CV, you'll see that Khan hasn't faced a guy as quick as Timothy Bradley and Bradley also has the power to put Khan away.

My take on this would be to first, get Khan to fight a tough fighter, that will take Khan's punches and will be able to match Khan's handspeed to test his reflexes but won't be a risk to put him away and then we can possibly talk about a Khan - Bradley unification at around August/September 2010.

The guy that comes to mind - PAULIE MALIGNAGGI.

excellent post,


and i agree

[stittyb]

If Bradley is Khan's next fight then i can't see Khan winning.

Currently Bradley is far more experienced having been in with far tougher opposition and having got the victory in far tougher situations.

Although Khan has awesome speed, Bradley isn't far behind in that department, he will be able to hit Khan, alot.

People quite rightly point out that Bradley isn't a huge puncher, but he is a stiff puncher and can rock anyone if he lands the right shot, that coupled with Khans chin opens the possibility of a brutal Bradley KO. Remember that right hand he caught Edner Cherry that put him down? I don't think Khan could get up after one of them.

Bradley is also versitile and adaptable, he can mix up his strategy and seems to prepare for any scenario.

Khan is undoubtedly improving with every fight, but so is Bradley. I think it is important to remember also that Khan hasn't properly been punched since the Prescott fight, yes he has scored some impressive victories since then but in with a fast, durable and adaptable fighter like Bradley his chin is surely going to take a few good shots.

Give Khan a year and 2 or 3 defenses, if he continues improving then i'd give him a much better chance of beating Bradley.

[icemax]

The fact it was Witter he beat is probably the reason for that though.

The fact of the matter is that if Witter had actually bothered turning up then Bradley wouldn't have won that fight and we would likely not be talking about him now (not in such glowing terms anyhow)

[20a87]

The fact of the matter is that if Witter had actually bothered turning up then Bradley wouldn't have won that fight and we would likely not be talking about him now (not in such glowing terms anyhow)

agreed it wasnt a huge margin he won by and witter sucked that night

[bored]

Bradley KO. If Khan won this fight I'd be onboard the hype train but I don't see how it happens.

[jigsawigsaw]

imo khan beats bradley if he boxes clever, he will wear bradley down and probably stop him late on. khan will have to be as quick as ever and be at the top of his game. I see khan having to box on the back foot and working in short sharp spells in and out.

[mryeags]

This would be a fight too soon for Khan IMO .... the Bradley that fought Holt is a very good fighter .... Khans very good but lets not rush him hes never been in with this calibre of fighter who is at his peak ....

Salita is a division 2 fighter in comparison to Bradley ...

Late 2010 early 2011 i would like to see this match up but let Khan have another couple of good defences first ... no need to rush the lad hes doing just fine .....

[Darni187]

imo khan beats bradley if he boxes clever, he will wear bradley down and probably stop him late on. khan will have to be as quick as ever and be at the top of his game. I see khan having to box on the back foot and working in short sharp spells in and out.

This would have to be Khan's plan if this fight was made, but even I feel Khan needs at least 2 more fights under his belt before he takes on Bradley who is the top 140 fighter right now.

Khan has to make his size count (4in taller) use his reach and speed and movement to great effect if he is to win this fight.

[TFFP]

I think this fight is too early as well. I'd have a lot of respect if they took it but I don't think its the right fight - yet.

Even Maidana would be a better fight. He's powerful but there is no doubt there are many ways Khan can win that fight. Bradley is a whole different proposition in terms of his all-round game, Bradley can beat you several ways. Bradley is the type of fight to take when Khan has perfected his game against a few different styles, because he needs to put everything together against Tim to come out with a 'W'.

[jigsawigsaw]

This would have to be Khan's plan if this fight was made, but even I feel Khan needs at least 2 more fights under his belt before he takes on Bradley who is the top 140 fighter right now.

Khan has to make his size count (4in taller) use his reach and speed and movement to great effect if he is to win this fight.



agree there is no point rushing this one. the more championship fights Khan has the better, and the more his confidence will gain with the right opponents. I think Khan is a little unlucky imo as the shot he took against prescott would have ko anyone. I think that at 140 with the right matchmaking Khan will become a super star. I also feel he needs to stay with ******, and maybe delay America for the time being, what Frank did after that crushing defeat was world class promoting.

[Darni187]

I think this fight is too early as well. I'd have a lot of respect if they took it but I don't think its the right fight - yet.

Even Maidana would be a better fight. He's powerful but there is no doubt there are many ways Khan can win that fight. Bradley is a whole different proposition in terms of his all-round game, Bradley can beat you several ways. Bradley is the type of fight to take when Khan has perfected his game against a few different styles, because he needs to put everything together against Tim to come out with a 'W'.

Spot on, Bradley is a well rounded fighter, and a smart fighter, no point rushing into this fight they can make this for late 2010 if Khan keeps improving and winning. Khan has so many other good options next, Nate Campbell would be a decent test.

[Darni187]

agree there is no point rushing this one. the more championship fights Khan has the better, and the more his confidence will gain with the right opponents. I think Khan is a little unlucky imo as the shot he took against prescott would have ko anyone. I think that at 140 with the right matchmaking Khan will become a super star. I also feel he needs to stay with ******, and maybe delay America for the time being, what Frank did after that crushing defeat was world class promoting.

Totally agree.

[TFFP]

Ideally Khan would fight a few different types of fighter to prepare for this. He's fought Kotelnik who is technically quite good and a good counterpuncher but he's very very static. He's fought Salita, I'm not sure what he was but clearly he didn't test Khan.

1) A pressure fighter, or at least somebody that will put him under some type of pressure. Maidana would be great. That kid knows how to fire bombs and is very offensive minded.

2) A speedster. I don't think Khan has fought an athlete even close to himself. Zab Judah or Kendall Holt would be ideal.

Then if he passes those tests he could be ready for everything Bradley brings.

[Beeston Brawler]

Spot on, Bradley is a well rounded fighter, and a smart fighter, no point rushing into this fight they can make this for late 2010 if Khan keeps improving and winning. Khan has so many other good options next, Nate Campbell would be a decent test.

Never thought of Campbell actually. Good shout.

The last thing he needs is another guy that will just fall over..... because it won't allow him to put into action the work that he has done to improve.

[TFFP]

You could swap Nate Campbell for Maidana in my suggestions. Perfect example of a pressure fighter, and he has a bit of old school defence about him too that would be new for Khan.

[mryeags]

Huge risk but what about Kendall Holt .... i personally wouldnt put Khan in with Holt ....

[Darni187]

Ideally Khan would fight a few different types of fighter to prepare for this. He's fought Kotelnik who is technically quite good and a good counterpuncher but he's very very static. He's fought Salita, I'm not sure what he was but clearly he didn't test Khan.

1) A pressure fighter, or at least somebody that will put him under some type of pressure. Maidana would be great. That kid knows how to fire bombs and is very offensive minded.

2) A speedster. I don't think Khan has fought an athlete even close to himself. Zab Judah or Kendall Holt would be ideal.

Then if he passes those tests he could be ready for everything Bradley brings.

:lol:

Yep agreed them 2 fights would be a great learning fights for Khan.

[mryeags]

You could swap Nate Campbell for Maidana in my suggestions. Perfect example of a pressure fighter, and he has a bit of old school defence about him too that would be new for Khan.

I would fancy Khan to outbox Maidana ... but the guy sure does punch and was unlucky not to decision Kotelnik .

[TFFP]

I think Khan has a good chance to do more than outbox Maidana. Obviously he doesn't want to get into a firefight and play Russian roulette but if he puts some meat on his counter right that we saw against Salita he would have a good chance to KO Maidana. Maidana punches hard for 12 rounds so the less time you are in there with him the better really.

Nate Campbell would be very difficult because he's there for 12 no matter what, that would be a great learning fight.

[Darni187]

I think Khan has a good chance to do more than outbox Maidana. Obviously he doesn't want to get into a firefight and play Russian roulette but if he puts some meat on his counter right that we saw against Salita he would have a good chance to KO Maidana. Maidana punches hard for 12 rounds so the less time you are in there with him the better really.

Nate Campbell would be very difficult because he's there for 12 no matter what, that would be a great learning fight.

Yeah you know Maidana or Nate or really any real top 10 140 fighters will be nice, we want Khan to be in a testing and learning fight.

[mryeags]

Ortiz had Maidana down twice i think in the early rounds so there is a potential stoppage there .... and agree Maidana is a pressure fighter he wont be gassing after 6 thats for sure .... the little argentinians very good and would be a good CV entry for Khan...

[Beeston Brawler]

Khan would be best asserting himself on Maidana I think.

Sitting back, popping off the jab won't do anything..... other than Maidana to throw more leather. If Khan does get caught, enough times, he will probably go over - though the same could be said of Maidana, who was all but beaten by Ortiz.

Either way, it would most likely end up a war, I'd back Khan to win by stoppage - he is a better fighter than Ortiz, and in a different league when it comes to balls.

[mryeags]

What about Joel casamayor ? been in with some good fighters and having beaten Katsidas last year can still trade with the best ....

[jigsawigsaw]

Bredis Prescott???????
although I think Khan is on another level now, this fight would be one to erase the only defeat on his record. Mitchell showed how prescott can be beaten,

[Top Dog]

Totally agree.

World class promoting?? A washed up MAB, and Salita, aye very good:lol::lol: Its a case of who is shite and how much can we get away with, without taking the piss. ****** is a fudd i.m.o. although Khan deserves some credit for wanting to take on good guys, lets see if Frank has the bottle to let him

[Mandanda]

World class promoting?? A washed up MAB, and Salita, aye very good:lol::lol: Its a case of who is shite and how much can we get away with, without taking the piss. ****** is a fudd i.m.o. although Khan deserves some credit for wanting to take on good guys, lets see if Frank has the bottle to let him
I don't think he has a choice. Khan will walk away if he tries bring him another Salita type fight. Khan has different objectives and desires to ****** but ****** may now think i best just do as he wants otherwise he will walk anyways.

[Top Dog]

I don't think he has a choice. Khan will walk away if he tries bring him another Salita type fight. Khan has different objectives and desires to ****** but ****** may now think i best just do as he wants otherwise he will walk anyways.

I do agree, if Khan doesnt get the fights he wants he will tell ****** to sling his greasy hook, and probably link up with a big player over there

[jigsawigsaw]

its world class promoting imo as khan is now a household name and he hasnt really fought anyone, although I do think khan has great potential. khan should stick with ******, he takes calculated risks he made calzaghe, hatton benn, naz

[izmat]

Khan-Malignaggi then Khan -Maidana before facing Bradley

We want that fight. Paulie wants a big fight," DiBella told me this week. "It would be an unbelievable event for Kahn's American debut. It's perfectly conceived of because of the personalities, styles and geography. Khan wants to fight here. Paulie is a New Yorker and is as hot as he's been. I have no doubt the fight does 15,000 people at the Garden. They both can fight and they both can talk and promote."
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[mcguirpa]

Yeah you know Maidana or Nate or really any real top 10 140 fighters will be nice, we want Khan to be in a testing and learning fight.

Only testing and learning fight he had, he lost. Every other fighter he's faced has been poor, from a world perspective at least.

I mean, this comment really sums up the absurdity of the situation. Amir Khan is WBA World Champion and people are advocating testing and learning fights.

Some people really need to get a grip. He's got the belt, he's talking the talk. Now he just needs to get down to business. Preferably this side of going 40-0-1.

[trotter]

I seem to be in a minority but I don't think Khan is as good as is being suggested in this thread. Not yet anyway.

I'd give Maidana, Holt and Campbell a 50% chance of beating him. They are not learning fights IMO.

And Bradley would definitely beat him.

I'm probably just behid the curve on Kahn, but the struggles with Gomez and Limond and the Prescott blowout are still fresh in my mind. I just can't buy it that he's magically been transformed into the best 140 lb'er out there (I don't include Pac, Hatton and the marquee names in these types of discussions).

[20a87]

It's not like Bradley has been at the top for years, the guys he's beaten to get to the top have been good but not great and I think Khan has the tools NOW to beat him, why let Bradley grow as a fighter and get more experience against the best? fight him now