Sugar Shane v Berto on Sky Sports

[chrisfinch]

Sky's love-in with Berto means we get the Mosley fight live, which is a winner:happy

30th January, 2am, Sky Sports 1

Plus the following FFN main events confirmed...

Norton v Dolan-British & Commonwealth Cruiserweight titles (January 15)
Napa v McDonnell-British Bantamweight title (January 22)
McAllister v Amaoko-Commonwealth Lightweight title (January 29)
Booth v Marsh-British Super bantamweight title (February 5)

Obviously there are future FFN's you can garner from the boxrec schedule, but everything there is confirmed on skytext page 443.

[Mazallan]

Well pull my pants down and call me Jesus that is a great line up for the start of next year.

[dan-b]

I'll wave at you all from the crowd.:yep

[SteelTownCobra]

I'll wave at you all from the crowd.:yep
Make sure you wear that hat so we know who you are :good

[Mazallan]

I'll wave at you all from the crowd.:yep



Gutted. Hope you enjoy it.

[mryeags]

Lookin fwd to McAllisters fight and good weekend that ... gotta a sneaking feeling for Berto too ....

[9Ball]

Lookin fwd to McAllisters fight and good weekend that ... gotta a sneaking feeling for Berto too ....

Naaah. Mosely has too much class IMO :good

[CharlieGarbs]

Im happy this in on Sky. Definetly stay up to watch! Sky have been great the past year.

[TFFP]

I think Berto is gonna spring an upset in this one...

[mryeags]

Naaah. Mosely has too much class IMO :good

Agree Mossley does have class and Berto is static and his chin hasnt been tested 100% yet ... but Mossley can flatline in fights like he did against Mayorga except for the last 3 seconds of the final round ... if that happens think Berto could rough up Mossley ... Mossley deffo bookies favourite mind you ...

[Funtime Frankie]

Hats off to Sky for this one again, as said above they have been great this year.

Shame others cant follow their lead!!!!!

[theuppercut]

Excellent start to the year. Looking forward to Mosley v Berto especially. If Mosley turns up proper I reckon he'll win on points comfortably but if Berto takes it to him early we could have a barn burner of sorts on our hands.

Good to see Mcallister getting some coverage on Sky too.

[dan-b]

Make sure you wear that hat so we know who you are :good

:lol:Will do.:good

[ShaneTheSherrif]

Excellent news about the Mosley fight.

[jonnytightlips]

Nice 1. I fancy Berto here.

[Lewisbell]

I want Mosley to win so we can have Mosley vs Pac/PBF

[antcull]

I not Bertos greatest fan, however a 38 yr old Mosley coming off a year long break is gonna have some major problems with Berto.

This kid is very very fast for a WW and its going to be intriguing to see how Mosley deals with this. 50-50 fight IMO.

Berto Pts or Mosley KO

Its going to be highly entertaining for sure :good A terrific 1st big fight for 2010

[CharlieGarbs]

I not Bertos greatest fan, however a 38 yr old Mosley coming off a year long break is gonna have some major problems with Berto.

This kid is very very fast for a WW and its going to be intriguing to see how Mosley deals with this. 50-50 fight IMO.

Berto Pts or Mosley KO

Its going to be highly entertaining for sure :good A terrific 1st big fight for 2010

Thats exactly what I'm saying, he had a great win over Margo but that was a while ago now, and on top of that he is 38. Also, he's very un-predictable with his performances, we dont know which Shanes going to turn up! I do love Mosley, but I have this feeling Berto's going to pull of a shocker.

[Mr. V.I.P.]

I am predicting a shane off night. Berto is too fast for shane.

[BURNLEYBLUE]

Mosley's one of my fav fighters of the last 15 yrs, but I fear he may get old overnight in this one. Hope I'm wrong and he's got 2 great performances left in him.



Ps. Question for mryeags what the fuck is THAT in your avvy???

[Ilesey]

Fucking yes!

War SKY!

[trotter]

... but Mossley can flatline in fights like he did against Mayorga except for the last 3 seconds of the final round ... if that happens think Berto could rough up Mossley ...

Also, he's very un-predictable with his performances, we dont know which Shanes going to turn up!

Agree. I've thought for a while that Shane is inconsistent.

I'm not a huge fan of Berto but if Shane's not on form Berto could squeak out a decision.

Shane might have a problem getting up for this one.

[dublynflya]

Sky's love-in with Berto means we get the Mosley fight live, which is a winner:happy

30th January, 2am, Sky Sports 1

Plus the following FFN main events confirmed...

Norton v Dolan-British & Commonwealth Cruiserweight titles (January 15)
Napa v McDonnell-British Bantamweight title (January 22)
McAllister v Amaoko-Commonwealth Lightweight title (January 29)
Booth v Marsh-British Super bantamweight title (February 5)

Obviously there are future FFN's you can garner from the boxrec schedule, but everything there is confirmed on skytext page 443.

:happy Great news!!!

[dublynflya]

I not Bertos greatest fan, however a 38 yr old Mosley coming off a year long break is gonna have some major problems with Berto.

This kid is very very fast for a WW and its going to be intriguing to see how Mosley deals with this. 50-50 fight IMO.

Berto Pts or Mosley KO

Its going to be highly entertaining for sure :good A terrific 1st big fight for 2010

:good I couldn't agree more!! This is a fantastic start to the year. I simply cannot see how this fight can be anything but a "Belter". And it is a close one to call. As many have said before me, it depends on which Shane turns up! Which means that making a prediction for this fight is difficult. I wonder how the British bookies/Betfair have this fight? I would guess that Sugar Shane will be the favourite but how strong a favourite? I'm off to find out!!:-).

[ed7890]

This is brilliant. :happy

Fair play to Sky, they're starting to get their act together

[theuppercut]

I was kinda hoping they'd show the Lopez - Gamboa doubleheader the week before but I reckon that'd be stretching it a little bit. You never know though.

[CharlieGarbs]

I was kinda hoping they'd show the Lopez - Gamboa doubleheader the week before but I reckon that'd be stretching it a little bit. You never know though.

Yeah man I was hoping for that too, maybe asking for a bit too much eh. :lol:

[chrisfinch]

I was kinda hoping they'd show the Lopez - Gamboa doubleheader the week before but I reckon that'd be stretching it a little bit. You never know though.

No use crying over spilt milk now obviously, but thats the type of fight Setanta would show.

[Cobbler]

Berto will beat Mosley.

Mosley's resume above LW is ridiculously overrated. Once you discount the second De La Hoya fight (and I can't imagine anyone would argue that we shouldn't discount it given Mosley's admission that he used performance enhancing drugs preparing for it), all is left is one disputed SD over DLH, five defeats to Forrest, Wright and Cotto, a couple of wins over Vargas and a handful of 'decent' victories over the likes of an overrated Margarito (especially given that Margarito's previous victories must be considered somewhat dubious), shot Mayorga and people like Collazo and Riveria.

[itrymariti]

Awesome.

[NO MAS]

Some great fights to start the year off...:good

Has Hatton signed a deal with Sky...:think Hatton will serve up some cracking shows...

[itrymariti]

Berto will beat Mosley.

Mosley's resume above LW is ridiculously overrated. Once you discount the second De La Hoya fight (and I can't imagine anyone would argue that we shouldn't discount it given Mosley's admission that he used performance enhancing drugs preparing for it), all is left is one disputed SD over DLH, five defeats to Forrest, Wright and Cotto, a couple of wins over Vargas and a handful of 'decent' victories over the likes of an overrated Margarito (especially given that Margarito's previous victories must be considered somewhat dubious), shot Mayorga and people like Collazo and Riveria.

And Berto's resume is much better, considering his best achievement is going life-and-death with a guy Mosley pissed all over? :lol:

The first DLH/Mosley fight was a pretty clear win for Mosley. If you're going to be skeptical about that win, you can very easily be skeptical about Mosley's loss to Cotto. (I had it a draw.) And when you dismiss the battering of Margarito, the clear wins over naturally much bigger and stylstically nightmarish guys like Vargas and Mayorga and the first DLH victory (which was a close but clear win, and one which Mosley made a double jump-up in weight to make), you just sound like a dumb hater.

Anyway, who's Pacquiao beaten? Washed-up versions of Barrera and Morales? Disputed decisions to Marquez? Weight-drained DLH, or Cotto who the "overrated" Margarito had ruined? Ricky Hatton? You can do similarly partial things with any record.

[Cobbler]

And Berto's resume is much better, considering his best achievement is going life-and-death with a guy Mosley pissed all over? :lol:



I don't really think that my argument was that Berto's resume was better than Mosleys.

The first DLH/Mosley fight was a pretty clear win for Mosley. If you're going to be skeptical about that win, you can very easily be skeptical about Mosley's loss to Cotto. (I had it a draw.) From memory, a draw was about the most favourably you could score that for Mosley.

And when you dismiss the battering of Margarito, the clear wins over naturally much bigger and stylstically nightmarish guys like Vargas and Mayorga and the first DLH victory (which was a close but clear win, and one which Mosley made a double jump-up in weight to make), you just sound like a dumb hater.
I didn't dismiss the performance against Margarito, I dismissed the fact that the world had gone completely mad prior to that fight and Margarito was somehow by consensus considered in the top six P4P fighters in the world. That was a complete joke.

The Vargas and DLH fights were the ones I was giving Mosley credit for, if you read what I wrote. But those are all a few years ago now. I'll stay with Mayorga being shot though.

[trotter]

Margarito was rightly feared when he fought Shane.

Even taking away the wraps angle, it's a very good win.

[Laurent Robert]

Berto aint no Punchbag Margarito, one fight too far for Sugar Shane I think

[itrymariti]

I don't really think that my argument was that Berto's resume was better than Mosleys.

Well, your entire post was an assault on Mosley's record above 135, and you concluded from that that Berto would beat him. Presumably, you think there's some connection there - or was it just an uncontrollable outburst?

From memory, a draw was about the most favourably you could score that for Mosley.

I think you're getting the first and second fights confused. Almost everyone thinks Mosley won the first (Lederman had it for Mosley by four.) Else post your scorecard.

I didn't dismiss the performance against Margarito, I dismissed the fact that the world had gone completely mad prior to that fight and Margarito was somehow by consensus considered in the top six P4P fighters in the world. That was a complete joke.

Make me a list of all the fighters that have ever beat Antonio Margarito convincingly. I'll start it off for you: Shane Mosley.

Margo had just ran over Cotto (who was undeniably the man at 147 at the time). For an old man to not only stand up to that kind of pressure but to hammer the guy around the ring and to ravage what was thought to be an unassailable chin at the time is pretty impressive.

The Vargas and DLH fights were the ones I was giving Mosley credit for, if you read what I wrote. But those are all a few years ago now. I'll stay with Mayorga being shot though.

Two wins over Vargas and a win over an all-but prime DLH - especially given the manner of the victory; Mosley won it basically by out-slugging a man two weight-divisions above him - are definitely not the hallmarks of an "over-rated" record.

[Lee Mc]

Some great fights to start the year off...:good

Has Hatton signed a deal with Sky...:think Hatton will serve up some cracking shows...

Will he?

Why break the habbit of a lifetime?

[Cobbler]

Well, your entire post was an assault on Mosley's record above 135, and you concluded from that that Berto would beat him. Presumably, you think there's some connection there - or was it just an uncontrollable outburst?


Others have already noted the age factor, inactivity factor and Berto's speed which I didn't repeat but also consider relevant.

My comment was just that, a comment, not intended as a comprehensive anaysis of all the factors which may influence how the fight goes. If I'd known the degree of knickertwistedness that it would cause you clearly I would have written and focused accordingly instead of bashing out a few thoughts in between watching the cricket and doing the washing up....

I think you're getting the first and second fights confused. Almost everyone thinks Mosley won the first (Lederman had it for Mosley by four.) Else post your scorecard.


Cotto and Mosley?

Make me a list of all the fighters that have ever beat Antonio Margarito convincingly. I'll start it off for you: Shane Mosley.

Margo had just ran over Cotto (who was undeniably the man at 147 at the time). For an old man to not only stand up to that kind of pressure but to hammer the guy around the ring and to ravage what was thought to be an unassailable chin at the time is pretty impressive.

I saw Margarito as primarily a stylistic victory (plus I never rated Cotto as highly as some did). There's no proof of any wrongdoing in this fight, so we'll leave that, but Cotto outboxed Margarito in the early stages but got outlasted and broken down. Nothing wrong with that, but one such performance doesn't make a P4P fighter in my book.

[trotter]

Others have already noted the age factor, inactivity factor and Berto's speed which I didn't repeat but also consider relevant.

My comment was just that, a comment, not intended as a comprehensive anaysis of all the factors which may influence how the fight goes. If I'd known the degree of knickertwistedness that it would cause you clearly I would have written and focused accordingly instead of bashing out a few thoughts in between watching the cricket and doing the washing up....



Cotto and Mosley?



I saw Margarito as primarily a stylistic victory (plus I never rated Cotto as highly as some did). There's no proof of any wrongdoing in this fight, so we'll leave that, but Cotto outboxed Margarito in the early stages but got outlasted and broken down. Nothing wrong with that, but one such performance doesn't make a P4P fighter in my book.


Margy had beaten Clottey, Cintron, was putting the heat on Williams big time down the stretch after a slow start... it was a good win. Was he a p4p fighter - probably top ten I guess in most peoples books.

[theuppercut]

Sky's love-in with Berto means we get the Mosley fight live, which is a winner:happy

30th January, 2am, Sky Sports 1

Plus the following FFN main events confirmed...

Norton v Dolan-British & Commonwealth Cruiserweight titles (January 15)
Napa v McDonnell-British Bantamweight title (January 22)
McAllister v Amaoko-Commonwealth Lightweight title (January 29)
Booth v Marsh-British Super bantamweight title (February 5)

Obviously there are future FFN's you can garner from the boxrec schedule, but everything there is confirmed on skytext page 443.


The Sky Sports site has it as 10pm on the Sunday. Delayed coverage?? :?

[chrisfinch]

The Sky Sports site has it as 10pm on the Sunday. Delayed coverage?? :?

Nah, their web page with live stuff is always full of glitches and has wrong dates. Skytext is usually the best source, that tells me it is live at 2am-I'm going by that.:D

[leforge]

No Cleverly fight though!

[Bonavena25]

I think Mosley could take him out when you consider Collazo had him hurt.

However if Mosley has slipped in terms of reflexes and general ring skills, then Berto could easily take it.

[Blueboy]

Great news, well done Sky! ...still waiting for ESPN to step up their game though. Here's hoping

[Carnage]

Brilliant!! Sky Sports love Berto.... get the feeling the HBO commentating team don't, Lederman had a shocking scorecard against Collazo, laughable, and he has the nerve to insult other judges!?!

[UK_Fight_Fan]

This is good news yeah. Shame they aren't showing the Pavlik fight this weekend even though it's on their "fixtures" list.

[Cobbler]

This is good news yeah. Shame they aren't showing the Pavlik fight this weekend even though it's on their "fixtures" list.

It's a joke fight and no great miss to be honest.

[UK_Fight_Fan]

It's a joke fight and no great miss to be honest.

I know, a mismatch but i wanna see everything. :P

[Irishrover91]

Can't waitt or beleive my eyes Sky showing top class non english boxing...get in..maybe they will keep this up????? Or so i hope