Buddy87
12-18-2009, 04:17 PM
Wladamir Klitschiko vs Eddie Chambers:
From studying both of their last fights concerning with Chagaev and Dimitrenko, I think Eddie chambers has learned a lot more out of his opponent than Wladamir has learned from his. Despite fighting a man that is virtually the same height as Klitschko, it’s a far cry to expect the same results from Chambers. Let me explain first what Chambers will bring to the table that Ruslan failed to do.
Ruslan Chagaev was once a great boxer that beat Nikolai Valuev on points, to most of you fans you may think that it’s nothing to go 12 rounds with the ever slow giant of a man, but with a man like him there’s always a risk against any fighter and one as large as that you have to take some extra precautions.
Chambers is going to bring lateral movement. He’ll be fighting straight up walking around Klitschko instead of directly being in front of him. When Klitschko goes to attack it’s when he’ll try to move his head or move his body back and dip down.
Chambers brings more straight hands, the most important thing about trying to get inside with a taller fighter just like when fighting with shorter fighters is the straight lead hand known as the jab, it is the punch that Wladamir knows for a fact it is the punch that wins him the day through every fight he hasn’t been knocked out, when taken likely and abused it can be countered which Wladamir knows all too well.
No doubt Chambers is the faster man between the two, he would be able to slip through his punches and be able to pop those fast quick jabs to the body before getting out or come up with a quick one to the head if he feels confident, Chagaev was as successful as he could be given his condition but it wasn’t enough for a man who’s at the top of his A-Game.
With Chambers speed comes great accuracy; the way he came in and slapped that hook across Dimitrenko looked like a genuine chin shot that threw off his body for a second before quickly coming to. Chambers does not like to waste punches
And given this Wladamir Klitschko is a far stretch of the level compared to what Dimitrenko has brought and here’s why.
Wladamir Klitschko looked a lot more relaxed in the ring compared to what Dimitrenko was, Dimitrenko looked a lot more fidgety and unrelaxed trying to find a way to keep his distance from Chambers.
His endurance to the body and chin are also superior to that of Dimitrenko’s, the younger man couldn’t take a body shot at all and it was killing him when he took a kidney shot, though it was a hard smack I’ve seen guys come into Wladamir’s guard and smack him near the back around his kidney’s and just blink yet alone when guys came and go for the body he took them and went on with his game of countering and moving back to pop his viper jab in the face of his opponents.
The thing that’s always in question to take this monster down has always been his chin. I’ve seen punches to the chin hit Wladamir’s chin from Chagaev and took them like a man, the punches that Wladamir has to be careful of are the grand slam punches that his three opponents, three big brawny ones brought. Though Eddie Chambers doesn’t bring the brawns, speed x weight = power and Chambers brings plenty of the speed with the accuracy to hit the bulls eye.
Another very important thing with Klitschko that Dimitrenko failed to do with his European style is to learn how to use your jab as a measuring stick, Wladamir knows his cue when a man is too close and will tilt his head body back then move out before the man can finish up with what he plans to do. Many of times when Chambers went into him, he stood right there trying to block his punches from him. Transforming the young man that’s 6’7 into a young boy that looked 5’7 with his body crouched forward and his arms up to roll into a basic guard to the front and with that Chambers would smack his ribs all night.
There’s no doubt that Wladamir is much stronger than Dimitrenko, he’s taking it to the level where he’s jumping from fighting a boy to a man and Chambers will notice Wladamir’s superior strength when he comes to tie him up in the clinch or push his body down if he gets too low. Dirty tactics, but again from previous posts they haven’t been discouraged by our referees.
Wladamir may not be as fast as Chambers, but regardless he is fast to begin with and has enough speed to catch him since the speed only belongs in the hands. The jabs are so fast that you don’t know whether they’re coming or going or feinting or double coming and worst of all, the finisher. Despite Wladamir being only a straight handed puncher, it will not look like the Haye/Valuev’s Willie Pep like evasive action by any stretch of the imagination, Valuev only threw straight punches with the exception of a couple of hooks which he definitely needed more of to pin Haye’s little body down to catch him. Vitali will slowly progress forward and take his time, he knows the height that was given to him and will not sacrifice it to try and reach for Chamber to get countered. If Chambers falls on the ropes and tries to do a Johnson/Vitali Klitschko, let’s just say that Chambers is in deep trouble. However, Eddie Chambers will not be a stationary lateral moving target, he’ll try to use them both with head movement to make his way in to pop him.
Chambers is in great danger with the defense he puts up when he takes a break, against Dimitrenko the one twos would come and they would look like a slapping one two smacking the sides of his gloves. This could be the deciding factor of knockdowns because if Chambers puts up that V- like ( like a / \ ) Wladamir will slightly circle around it and he will throw a one two, one to soften and the finishing right hand to rip right through it and snap his head back from landing to the chin.
Eddie Chambers proved to me that he has learned a lot from his fights with Calvin Brock, Samuel Peters and Alexander Dimitrenko, no point argueing who’s had better opposition between Klitschko and Chambers, you could bring up Byrd but the question is, will the post Emmanual Steward training change his mind set in boxing so much that angle punches such as hooks and uppercuts will be foreign to him? I don’t think so, Klitschko looks like he plays with his opponents because they’re not a threat.
He has experience, reach, power and volume against Chambers, Chambers may get discouraged and go into that defense where Wladamir may tea off on him just like Chagaev in the late rounds.
We have seen all the sides of Eddie Chambers, from fighting the Russian Alexander Povetkin who was too cautious and lazy in the ring, but when he threw he looked like magic! And when he started out boxing Samuel Peters, it was a rather tight unsuspenseful fight that he dragged along but the moment that he heard of a title shot with the championship I think he felt a new sense of hope.
Another thing to be concerned for Eddie chambers, it will be nearly 9 months since he’s stepped in the ring, The Klitschko’s are very diligent with keeping their work ethic up and will still see the Klischko of young, will Chambers keep his body up til then? Or will the American life style soften him to take too much time off until it is too late?
This writer feels that Chamber’s is coming from a level 2 all the way to the maximum level 10, level 2 granting that Dimitrenko’s former undefeated for the optimist.
Final Thoughts:
One important thing that Klitscho is well aware of, faster fighters can’t use their hands when they are out of distance and it is harder for a faster puncher to throw a swing and stop it, it will leave Klitschko more than enough time to counter with whatever he throws. Klitschko has the power whenever in the fight beginning middle and end to knock this man out as the European style keeps them going 12 rounds and still keeping comfortable.
Chambers needs to move around and find the angle to let his hands go and get that body before Wladamir counters or presses his weight onto him. And when Klitschko tries to lean back and press away with his arms down to avoid anymore body shots, it’s time to jump up and pounce that 1-2 straight to his face. At the end of this fight, Wladamir’s going to look as tall as Valuev with a reach that Chambers will find impossible to get through, or Chambers with his hard worked speed will give angles make him bend back at the wrong time and press forward where the man before him eye to eye with a hook to the chin coming from the young faster man. I feel Chambers wants this fight and will sign in blood, but Wladamir is definitely be the one making the bleeding happen.
From studying both of their last fights concerning with Chagaev and Dimitrenko, I think Eddie chambers has learned a lot more out of his opponent than Wladamir has learned from his. Despite fighting a man that is virtually the same height as Klitschko, it’s a far cry to expect the same results from Chambers. Let me explain first what Chambers will bring to the table that Ruslan failed to do.
Ruslan Chagaev was once a great boxer that beat Nikolai Valuev on points, to most of you fans you may think that it’s nothing to go 12 rounds with the ever slow giant of a man, but with a man like him there’s always a risk against any fighter and one as large as that you have to take some extra precautions.
Chambers is going to bring lateral movement. He’ll be fighting straight up walking around Klitschko instead of directly being in front of him. When Klitschko goes to attack it’s when he’ll try to move his head or move his body back and dip down.
Chambers brings more straight hands, the most important thing about trying to get inside with a taller fighter just like when fighting with shorter fighters is the straight lead hand known as the jab, it is the punch that Wladamir knows for a fact it is the punch that wins him the day through every fight he hasn’t been knocked out, when taken likely and abused it can be countered which Wladamir knows all too well.
No doubt Chambers is the faster man between the two, he would be able to slip through his punches and be able to pop those fast quick jabs to the body before getting out or come up with a quick one to the head if he feels confident, Chagaev was as successful as he could be given his condition but it wasn’t enough for a man who’s at the top of his A-Game.
With Chambers speed comes great accuracy; the way he came in and slapped that hook across Dimitrenko looked like a genuine chin shot that threw off his body for a second before quickly coming to. Chambers does not like to waste punches
And given this Wladamir Klitschko is a far stretch of the level compared to what Dimitrenko has brought and here’s why.
Wladamir Klitschko looked a lot more relaxed in the ring compared to what Dimitrenko was, Dimitrenko looked a lot more fidgety and unrelaxed trying to find a way to keep his distance from Chambers.
His endurance to the body and chin are also superior to that of Dimitrenko’s, the younger man couldn’t take a body shot at all and it was killing him when he took a kidney shot, though it was a hard smack I’ve seen guys come into Wladamir’s guard and smack him near the back around his kidney’s and just blink yet alone when guys came and go for the body he took them and went on with his game of countering and moving back to pop his viper jab in the face of his opponents.
The thing that’s always in question to take this monster down has always been his chin. I’ve seen punches to the chin hit Wladamir’s chin from Chagaev and took them like a man, the punches that Wladamir has to be careful of are the grand slam punches that his three opponents, three big brawny ones brought. Though Eddie Chambers doesn’t bring the brawns, speed x weight = power and Chambers brings plenty of the speed with the accuracy to hit the bulls eye.
Another very important thing with Klitschko that Dimitrenko failed to do with his European style is to learn how to use your jab as a measuring stick, Wladamir knows his cue when a man is too close and will tilt his head body back then move out before the man can finish up with what he plans to do. Many of times when Chambers went into him, he stood right there trying to block his punches from him. Transforming the young man that’s 6’7 into a young boy that looked 5’7 with his body crouched forward and his arms up to roll into a basic guard to the front and with that Chambers would smack his ribs all night.
There’s no doubt that Wladamir is much stronger than Dimitrenko, he’s taking it to the level where he’s jumping from fighting a boy to a man and Chambers will notice Wladamir’s superior strength when he comes to tie him up in the clinch or push his body down if he gets too low. Dirty tactics, but again from previous posts they haven’t been discouraged by our referees.
Wladamir may not be as fast as Chambers, but regardless he is fast to begin with and has enough speed to catch him since the speed only belongs in the hands. The jabs are so fast that you don’t know whether they’re coming or going or feinting or double coming and worst of all, the finisher. Despite Wladamir being only a straight handed puncher, it will not look like the Haye/Valuev’s Willie Pep like evasive action by any stretch of the imagination, Valuev only threw straight punches with the exception of a couple of hooks which he definitely needed more of to pin Haye’s little body down to catch him. Vitali will slowly progress forward and take his time, he knows the height that was given to him and will not sacrifice it to try and reach for Chamber to get countered. If Chambers falls on the ropes and tries to do a Johnson/Vitali Klitschko, let’s just say that Chambers is in deep trouble. However, Eddie Chambers will not be a stationary lateral moving target, he’ll try to use them both with head movement to make his way in to pop him.
Chambers is in great danger with the defense he puts up when he takes a break, against Dimitrenko the one twos would come and they would look like a slapping one two smacking the sides of his gloves. This could be the deciding factor of knockdowns because if Chambers puts up that V- like ( like a / \ ) Wladamir will slightly circle around it and he will throw a one two, one to soften and the finishing right hand to rip right through it and snap his head back from landing to the chin.
Eddie Chambers proved to me that he has learned a lot from his fights with Calvin Brock, Samuel Peters and Alexander Dimitrenko, no point argueing who’s had better opposition between Klitschko and Chambers, you could bring up Byrd but the question is, will the post Emmanual Steward training change his mind set in boxing so much that angle punches such as hooks and uppercuts will be foreign to him? I don’t think so, Klitschko looks like he plays with his opponents because they’re not a threat.
He has experience, reach, power and volume against Chambers, Chambers may get discouraged and go into that defense where Wladamir may tea off on him just like Chagaev in the late rounds.
We have seen all the sides of Eddie Chambers, from fighting the Russian Alexander Povetkin who was too cautious and lazy in the ring, but when he threw he looked like magic! And when he started out boxing Samuel Peters, it was a rather tight unsuspenseful fight that he dragged along but the moment that he heard of a title shot with the championship I think he felt a new sense of hope.
Another thing to be concerned for Eddie chambers, it will be nearly 9 months since he’s stepped in the ring, The Klitschko’s are very diligent with keeping their work ethic up and will still see the Klischko of young, will Chambers keep his body up til then? Or will the American life style soften him to take too much time off until it is too late?
This writer feels that Chamber’s is coming from a level 2 all the way to the maximum level 10, level 2 granting that Dimitrenko’s former undefeated for the optimist.
Final Thoughts:
One important thing that Klitscho is well aware of, faster fighters can’t use their hands when they are out of distance and it is harder for a faster puncher to throw a swing and stop it, it will leave Klitschko more than enough time to counter with whatever he throws. Klitschko has the power whenever in the fight beginning middle and end to knock this man out as the European style keeps them going 12 rounds and still keeping comfortable.
Chambers needs to move around and find the angle to let his hands go and get that body before Wladamir counters or presses his weight onto him. And when Klitschko tries to lean back and press away with his arms down to avoid anymore body shots, it’s time to jump up and pounce that 1-2 straight to his face. At the end of this fight, Wladamir’s going to look as tall as Valuev with a reach that Chambers will find impossible to get through, or Chambers with his hard worked speed will give angles make him bend back at the wrong time and press forward where the man before him eye to eye with a hook to the chin coming from the young faster man. I feel Chambers wants this fight and will sign in blood, but Wladamir is definitely be the one making the bleeding happen.