Undercard fights of Wlad vs Brewster

[Odo]

Highly touted Chechen talent Zaurbek Baysangurov will square off against very decent and durable French based Hussein Bayram.
Teak tough American journeyman Berry Butler will face unknown Albanian Haxhi Krasniqui.
On the undercard will also appear Irish hope Andy Lee and a very interesting cruiser weight,Johanthan Banks.Their opponents have not been anounced yet.

The Russian based young Chechen Baysangurov(15-) is for sure the biggest talent in his weight division,and he seems to be destined to dethrone one of the champs and reign for a long time.
Baysangurov is fast,can bang,is tough,has the right mental attitude towards his job,a good chin,a merciless finisher.Whoever has seen him live starts blowing his trumpet.He has the potential to be a truly great fighter.
His opponent Bayram(24-2) is a good boxer,but not really a match for the rising talent.I will bet my house that Bayram wont last 11 rounds as he did against Dzindziruk who is one of the best,but most underrated champs out there.

[NBT]

What do you mean with "Russian based Chechen"? To my knowledge Chechnya is part of Russia. That's like calling Hatton an British-based Englishman. :yep

[Odo]

What do you mean with "Russian based Chechen"? To my knowledge Chechnya is part of Russia. That's like calling Hatton an British-based Englishman. :yep

Well,a Chechen is no Russian,nbt!
Chechnya may be part of Russia,officially at least,but whoever stems from one of the countries of the former soviet union knows what I am talking about.
It is a bloody difficult and complicated topic.

[Alcaldemb]

Well,a Chechen is no Russian,nbt!
Chechnya may be part of Russia,officially at least,but whoever stems from one of the countries of the former soviet union knows what I am talking about.
It is a bloody difficult and complicated topic.

I think what you mean to say is that they are nationally, ie citizenship, Russian, but ethnically they aren't.

NBT ethnic Rus (Russian, Ukrainian and Belarussian) come from a specific Slavic hinterland that extends from much of modern day Ukraine and Belarus to the traditional lands of Russia north of Rostov and Volgagrad. It is like the difference between English, Scotts and Welsh. All of them are British but they aren't the same ethnic group. Or Basques and Catalans being Spanish citizens but not ethnically Spanish.

Does that about cover it Odo, or is there anything else you would like to add?

By the way I really like Baysangurov and would like for him to do well. I think he is the most talented prospect between 147 and 160. He is well ahead of Berto, Chavez Jr or Andre Ward (who is between 160-168lbs) and even fellow countryman Pirog.

[NBT]

Well,a Chechen is no Russian,nbt!
Chechnya may be part of Russia,officially at least,but whoever stems from one of the countries of the former soviet union knows what I am talking about.
It is a bloody difficult and complicated topic.
You missed the point. The point is that it doesn't make a lot of sense the call someone "xxx-based" when he is fighting out of his home country which in this case is Russia.

[BigEars]

You missed the point. The point is that it doesn't make a lot of sense the call someone "xxx-based" when he is fighting out of his home country which in this case is Russia.
It kinda of does if he's from Chechnya , as Baysangurov may feel/wish Chechnya was independent and doesn't feel Russian .

Alright technically it may be wrong but you can see where the OP is coming from .

[Tom_Tocca]

Anyway, Zaurbek is goin to win...

[Ramon Rojo]

You missed the point. The point is that it doesn't make a lot of sense the call someone "xxx-based" when he is fighting out of his home country which in this case is Russia.

I doubt that many chechens like if you call them russians.

[NBT]

I doubt that many chechens like if you call them russians.
And why would I do that? There are very few nations today that still have a ethnic homogenous population, basically only a few east-asian nations like Korea. Of course there are lots of other ethnic groups in Russia besides Russian. But the fact still stands, Chechnya is part of Russia whether you like it or not, that's how it is.

[Odo]

You missed the point. The point is that it doesn't make a lot of sense the call someone "xxx-based" when he is fighting out of his home country which in this case is Russia.

Chechnya is a very difficult topic.I dont want to talk about it.Nobody who doesnt stem one of the countries of the former soviet union really understands anything I would say about Chechnya.Most people in the western world just believe their western propaganda that all russians are bad killing innocent chechen freedom fighters.

Russia for sure isnt a Chechen 's mother,nbt!
Anyway! Lets talk about boxing!

[Odo]

Unbeaten cruiserweight Johnathon Banks (16-0, 12 KOs) will face very limited journeyman Josip Jalusic (8-7-1).I am very disappointed.Banks shouldnt fight such a no-hoper when he has the chance to showcase his skills in front of 10,000 people in one of most important box markets of the world. Middleweight Andy Lee (9-0, 6 KOs) will get a toughter test squaring off against Engin Erdogan (10-3) Former world title challenger Rudiger May will also appear on the undercard.

The best piece of news is that German tv will show Baysangurov's fight live.

[Alcaldemb]

Unbeaten cruiserweight Johnathon Banks (16-0, 12 KOs) will face very limited journeyman Josip Jalusic (8-7-1).I am very disappointed.Banks shouldnt fight such a no-hoper when he has the chance to showcase his skills in front of 10,000 people in one of most important box markets of the world. Middleweight Andy Lee (9-0, 6 KOs) will get a toughter test squaring off against Engin Erdogan (10-3) Former world title challenger Rudiger May will also appear on the undercard.

The best piece of news is that German tv will show Baysangurov's fight live.


Yes but unfortunately for those of us here in the States that HBO won't show us Baysangurov. As far as Lee fighting better comp, Andy Lee is a better talent than Banks.

[Artani]

My comepatriot Haxhi Krasniqi fighting in the undercard of Brewster - Wlad.

[mike]

a lot of people in the caucasus of russia don't consider themselves russians. the russians lived further north and came down to take slaves and eventually colonize the land.

[mike]

Chechnya is a very difficult topic.I dont want to talk about it.Nobody who doesnt stem one of the countries of the former soviet union really understands anything I would say about Chechnya.Most people in the western world just believe their western propaganda that all russians are bad killing innocent chechen freedom fighters.

Russia for sure isnt a Chechen 's mother,nbt!
Anyway! Lets talk about boxing!
no war is clean. the russians do terrible things in chechnya, as well as dagestan, and this doesn't excuse what caucasus militants do.

[Artani]

no war is clean. the russians do terrible things in chechnya, as well as dagestan, and this doesn't excuse what caucasus militants do.

agree with you Mike :good

[Odo]

no war is clean. the russians do terrible things in chechnya, as well as dagestan, and this doesn't excuse what caucasus militants do.

As I said this thread isnt about Chechnya.


Caucasus militants,eh!.Thats the term they use in your country 's media to describe those Chechen bandits and killers?

[albaneze]

Teak tough American journeyman Berry Butler will face unknown Albanian Haxhi Krasniqui.


Hmmm.. OK i am not underestimating Butler, regarding the tuoughness he might be tough but its not that he has had a brilliant career. While Haxhi is a very promising young fighter whom i thing has good possibilities of wining.

He is very young but his not very muscular arms are quite firm on defense, he can throw good punches, jabs, upercats and quite fast ones.

I am trying to be realistic but i still think that if Haxhi manages to stand the first rounds he will win for sure. He got good stamina, not very powerful punches but ones that can make the damage and earn the points for him. Precise ones.

I still stand on my idea that Haxhi is a potential, probably we will see him after 3 - 4 years boxing for the world title.

GO HAXHI...

[boxexpert]

except banks and lee there are all bums and losers in that undercard

[NBT]

except banks and lee there are all bums and losers in that undercard
You don't know shit about boxing is what you want to say? Baysangurov has more potential than those two combined. :yep

[Armo_Ruski]

why doesnt hbo show us the baysangurov fight??? :fire

[boxexpert]

we shall see

[Alcaldemb]

why doesnt hbo show us the baysangurov fight??? :fire

Because HBO is F'in stupid. God forbid they showed a young talent or two on an undercard.

[Odo]

Hmmm.. OK i am not underestimating Butler, regarding the tuoughness he might be tough but its not that he has had a brilliant career. While Haxhi is a very promising young fighter whom i thing has good possibilities of wining.

He is very young but his not very muscular arms are quite firm on defense, he can throw good punches, jabs, upercats and quite fast ones.

I am trying to be realistic but i still think that if Haxhi manages to stand the first rounds he will win for sure. He got good stamina, not very powerful punches but ones that can make the damage and earn the points for him. Precise ones.

I still stand on my idea that Haxhi is a potential, probably we will see him after 3 - 4 years boxing for the world title.

GO HAXHI...

Butler is a kind of gatekeeper.If Haxhi beats him convincingly then he for sure has the tools to compete with some of the fighters in the upper echelon of his weight division.
But as I said I very much doubt that he will pass this test successfully.
Butler is a tough customer,and Haxhi is a very inexperienced boxer with a padded record.

[albaneze]

I Really hope Haxhi will prove the oposite of what you are saying Odo.
The only thing we can do is wait and see what Haxhi has to offer.
I hope he passes this tough test for him.
GO HAXHI.

[unitas]

crappy undercard..........yet slightly better than the main event.

[albaneze]

What's with the super pessimistic attitude unitas ;) ...

[Odo]

Irish hope Andy Lee will face Thomas Hengstberger (14-2-2) from Austria,and cruiser weight hope Jonathan Banks will fight Gustavo Enriquez(15-7) from Argentina on the undercard of Wlad vs Brewster.

By the way German cruiser Rudiger May will appear on the undercard,too.
I am just wondering who the hell really wants to watch a fight with this guy.
May is one of the most boring fighters out there-he can seriously rival Henry Akinwande inasmuch as to make a fight fan switch the tv channel.

[boxexpert]

banks, lee and of course Baysangurov are very interesting fighters who are worth to see

[Tom_Tocca]

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[boxexpert]

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[albaneze]

banks, lee and of course Baysangurov are very interesting fighters who are worth to see

I assure you that Haxhi will make a wonderful apparence as well.

GO HAXHI.