What is the worst stoppage you have ever seen?

[KOTF]

I'm not talking about the referee stopping the fight too late like Patterson-Johansson I, I'm talking about referee stoppages that were ultimately too quick. What's the worst stoppage you have ever witnessed?

[Duodenum]

Premature stoppages which cost a defending heavyweight champion his title stick in my craw. Weaver-Dokes I heads my list. Lewis should have been afforded an opportunity to continue against McCall. Referees in this day and age are squeamish faggots who shouldn't be let out of the kitchen and sewing room. Tex Cobb had it right. "We're in there to raise hell, and the referee's only job is to count to ten."

[Rubber Warrior]

Calzaghe/Manfredo has to rank right up there with the worst.

[anarci]

Dokes - Weaver come to mind
And on the other end They let Gaby Canizales vs Richie Sandoval go on to long,Sandoval almost lost his life in that fight.

[red cobra]

Mancini-Chacon...Bobby could have ridden out any danger he was in...he did so through much, much worse before.

[doug.ie]

should Taylor have been given a few seconds against Chavez ?

[doug.ie]

actually forget my last post now that i think about it more

[anarci]

Mancini-Chacon...Bobby could have ridden out any danger he was in...he did so through much, much worse before.:good Agreed that is why he was my favorite fighter when i was a kid! His career was filled with wars where he always came back in dramatic fashion. He was like Gatti but way before Gatti(does that make sense:huh) except that Chacon was more skilled.

[MRBILL]

"Dokes-Weaver 1" and "Tyson-C.Williams" were bad calls.....

I also think the ref screwed Ayub Kalule a bit against Leonard in 1981....... The fucking bell sounded after 9 heated rds when Kalule was dropped, and I think the tired and hurt Kalule may have recovered during the break....... Kalule was in-shape.......

MR.BILL:hat

[Duodenum]

Mancini-Chacon...Bobby could have ridden out any danger he was in...he did so through much, much worse before.This was a particularly strange stoppage to me, as Richard Steele refereed Schoolboy's previous bout, the Boza Edwards rematch. Maybe Steele was spooked by Mancini's involvement in the Kim tragedy.

[red cobra]

This was a particularly strange stoppage to me, as Richard Steele refereed Schoolboy's previous bout, the Boza Edwards rematch. Maybe Steele was spooked by Mancini's involvement in the Kim tragedy.
Yeah, I remember thinking that it had to be echoes of Mancini's Kim ordeal...because Chacon wasn't in any real trouble..it was a most unsatisfactory ending to what may have been a good fight in my ever so humble opinion.

[Blood Green]

:good Agreed that is why he was my favorite fighter when i was a kid! His career was filled with wars where he always came back in dramatic fashion. He was like Gatti but way before Gatti(does that make sense:huh) except that Chacon was more skilled.
yeah, but the pugilistic dementia isn't a good look.

[The Funny Man 7]

Lewis getting stopped standing up against McCall was ridiculous. He was no doubt clearheaded enough to continue.

[red cobra]

Lewis getting stopped standing up against McCall was ridiculous. He was no doubt clearheaded enough to continue.I agree.

[Russell]

Referees in this day and age are squeamish faggots

Never thought I'd hear that coming from you. :lol::huh

[Tin_Ribs]

Leonard-Benitez was a bit naff, as was Duran-Marcel.

[young griffo]

Tua-Rahman 1

Jones-Sosa

Ali-Lyle

[doug.ie]

Ali-Lyle

lyle was getting battered...ali was almost begging the ref to come in and stop it.

[The Morlocks]

I'm not talking about the referee stopping the fight too late like Patterson-Johansson I, I'm talking about referee stoppages that were ultimately too quick. What's the worst stoppage you have ever witnessed?
just look at any fight refed by larry hazzard.:dead

[The Morlocks]

"Dokes-Weaver 1" and "Tyson-C.Williams" were bad calls.....

I also think the ref screwed Ayub Kalule a bit against Leonard in 1981....... The fucking bell sounded after 9 heated rds when Kalule was dropped, and I think the tired and hurt Kalule may have recovered during the break....... Kalule was in-shape.......

MR.BILL:hat
If you watch it, Kalule says he doesn't want anymore. After the fight he said he had no idea they were that close to the bell:rasta

[Nay_Sayer]

Jones-Sheika

[Lunny]

Calzaghe/Manfredo has to rank right up there with the worst.
That's the first fight that came to my head too. Though all it did really was save time.

[Flea Man]

Johanson vs Machen is absolutely horrific.

[Sonny Carson]

Lewis getting stopped standing up against McCall was ridiculous. He was no doubt clearheaded enough to continue.
I don't agree. That wasn't a bad stoppage at all. Lewis was still wobbly when he got up, his legs looked gone to me. It's not like Tyson-Ruddock 1 where Ruddock was hurt but clearly had his legs.

[la-califa]

Worst Non-stoppage has to be Gabriel Ruelas-Jimmy Garcia. Garcia was taking a battering, if not the ref. his corner should have been compassionate enough to stop it...

[Quitali Bitchko]

and "Tyson-C.Williams" were bad calls.....



Williams did not look the ref in the eyes and he did not respond to his questions. It was his own fault for the stoppage.

[ThinBlack]

Definitely the Dokes-Weaver I affair.

[LHL]

Ruddock vs Dokes is pretty bad seeing as the ref is staring at a lifeless dokes while ruddock lines up another shot

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[Popkins]

I usually agree with "premature" stoppages, because even if the fighter is perfectly capable of continuing, the ref only stops it when they are being systematically beaten up with no realistic chance of turning it around (Calzaghe-Manfredo and Roy Jones-Clinton Woods).

I suppose a rough stoppage would be Leonard-Benitez. Even though Benitez had no chance of winning, I think a warrior would have wanted to see that one through to the bell, I bet he felt disappointed inside. He was being beaten, but he was not being seriously hurt or embarrassed I don't think.

[boxerca]

The first Chavez-Taylor fight was pretty controversial and it was a horrible stoppage, IMO. If the referee didn't stop it, Taylor would've won. There was like.. what? 2-4 seconds left? Chavez couldn't have done anymore damage.

[The Morlocks]

just look at any fight refed by larry hazzard.:dead
Merry Christmas all!:rasta

[Bioyhh]

The first Chavez-Taylor fight was pretty controversial and it was a horrible stoppage, IMO. If the referee didn't stop it, Taylor would've won. There was like.. what? 2-4 seconds left? Chavez couldn't have done anymore damage.

Chavez probably wouldn't have had time to land another punch. The fight, for all intents and purposes, was over when Steele stopped it. Just a sad end to a classic bout.

[MrMarvel]

Mancini-Chacon...Bobby could have ridden out any danger he was in...he did so through much, much worse before.

Fight was definitely stopped too quick. One of the worst stoppages.

[MrMarvel]

lyle was getting battered...ali was almost begging the ref to come in and stop it.

Absolutely. Ali landed a wicked right hand and Lyle never recovered. Ali was battering him at will.

[MrMarvel]

Leonard-Benitez was a bit naff, as was Duran-Marcel.

Leonard Benitez was a terrible stoppage.

[MrMarvel]

Leonard Hearns was a bad stoppage. Hearns was weathering the storm, more tired than hurt. Leonard was throwing wild.

[MrMarvel]

Lewis McCall was a terrible stoppage.

[Robot16]

Leonard-Benitez was a bit naff, as was Duran-Marcel.

I usually agree with "premature" stoppages, because even if the fighter is perfectly capable of continuing, the ref only stops it when they are being systematically beaten up with no realistic chance of turning it around (Calzaghe-Manfredo and Roy Jones-Clinton Woods).

I suppose a rough stoppage would be Leonard-Benitez. Even though Benitez had no chance of winning, I think a warrior would have wanted to see that one through to the bell, I bet he felt disappointed inside. He was being beaten, but he was not being seriously hurt or embarrassed I don't think.


Agreed i have felt the benitez - leonard fight was always stopped early.

I felt Chacon v Mancini was a good stoppage, imo he was fighting a younger and bigger opponent and was not showing anything back

[JohnThomas1]

Leonard Hearns was a bad stoppage. Hearns was weathering the storm, more tired than hurt. Leonard was throwing wild.


If they didn't stop it when they did how do you see it unfolding from that point on?

[young griffo]

lyle was getting battered...ali was almost begging the ref to come in and stop it.
Crap.

Ali stunned him with a good right hand but Lyle covered up and appeared to have weathered the storm as Ali looked to have punched himself out(mostly on Rons gloves) when the referee stopped it.Lyle should've punched back but he was still capable of protecting himself and should have been given more time to recover,especially since he was winning.

Ali himself arguably copped worse in round 11 of the FOTC but got given every chance to recover.

One rule for Ali and another set for everyone else it seems...

[wellsini]

should Taylor have been given a few seconds against Chavez ?

Yes

[DFW]

Fullmer-Basilio 2nd fight. Although Fullmer was winning the fight and Carmen probably would have lost the decision, I thought that the referee jumped in too soon. So did Carmen. But I think that Basilio could have finished that fight and probably their first one as well. Carmen sure gave Giacoma hell for stopping the 2nd fight.

[Boilermaker]

It may not quite fit in here, but I watched Dempsey Willard the other day and that was a horrible decision not to stop that fight earlier. Willard really was totally defenceless for a while there. I know the rules pretty much stopped a ref from calling the fight off, but Willard was very lucky not to get hurt a lot worse.

[wellsini]

Hearns/Duran

I'm sure Duran was clear headed enough to continue