Which fighters will fall from grace in 2010??

[antcull]

Which of the top fighters do you think will have a bad year next year?

I'm going for JMM, Mosley and Vitali........I think their age might catch up with all of them.

[LHL]

Juanma i have a feeling he won't have a good 2010. Starting with Luevano beating him.

[Siren1927]

Same fighters I thought of as I saw this topic ill also add Vasquez or Rafa Marquez, one or both of them will retire after the next fight

[kosaros]

Possibly Calderon.

[Grant1]

Carl Froch.

[ishy]

Agree with most that have been mentioned. Glen Johnson is another

[kieron]

As much as I hate to say it I have a feeling Froch will fall foul, also Vitali

[icemax]

Juanma i have a feeling he won't have a good 2010. Starting with Luevano beating him.

I love steve Luevano...more so for what he did to that dick Billy Dib

**As Kieron says, Froch does look like a car crash waiting to happen

[Flea Man]

Valero, if he steps it up.

[antcull]

Definitely agree with Froch and JuanMa.

How about domestically? This should be a year when alot of domestic fighters should be making significant steps up in Munroe/Macklin/Cleverly/Murray/Brook/Barker/McEwan/Lindsay etc.
Who will lose out of that lot next year?

[Flea Man]

I tell you who will show how good he is if he steps it up; Jason Booth :deal pure class

[servo]

Carl Froch isn't a bad shout. Massive year for him, hopefully he won't fall out of the spotlight though.

Dare i say PW if he loses out to Pav next year?

[Grant1]

Amir Khan is going to fall at some point, so I may as well chuck his name in.

[rockandrollstar]

Vitali

[Flea Man]

Carl Froch isn't a bad shout. Massive year for him, hopefully he won't fall out of the spotlight though.

Dare i say PW if he loses out to Pav next year?

Don't worry, he won't:good

[Will]

Vitali
PBF (if the pac fight happens).
Wlad (is gonna want to avenge his bro's defeat to Haye)

Last one may not happen in 2010! (obviously it may not happen at all).

As my wild card I'm gonna say Chad Dawson!

[Losfer_Words]

Which of the top fighters do you think will have a bad year next year?

I'm going for JMM, Mosley and Vitali........I think their age might catch up with all of them.

That best be a joke:bart.

Right, my list:
Juanma- I've been saying it for ages and got a lot of stick for it prior to the Mtagwa fight, but he will be beaten when he faces somebody world-class in 2010.
Wlad- Haye will roast him if they meet and Chambers could potentially pull off an upset, IMO.
Pavlik- Whether it's Sturm or Williams, he'll fall in 2010.
Julio Cesar Chavez Jr- Top Rank have to put him in with somebody who has a chance of beating him soon and he will lose.
Froch- Kessler and Abraham are next- if he wins both then I will be very suprised.
Bradley- I have really warmed to the guy of late after being very critical of him. I do think he will take another huge challenge on and lose in 2010, though.
Valero- The hype will be exposed.
Calderon- If he fights Viloria, IMO. Still one of my faves to watch, though.

:good

[Will]

Losfer words

If Froch were to win one of those fights and lose the other would you consider it a fall from grace?

[Funtime Frankie]

Hatton!!!!

[antcull]

That best be a joke:bart.


Afraid not :-(

I dont think 36 yr old JMM fairs well in the current 140 division, would love to be proved wrong though.

[Beeston Brawler]

Pavlik
Dawson
JM Lopez
Calderon
Vitali
Chavez jr
Froch

[Losfer_Words]

Losfer words

If Froch were to win one of those fights and lose the other would you consider it a fall from grace?

Not at all. He'd prove that he was one of the premier guys at 168, but not adaptable and skillful enough to beat everyone out there. Where does he go if he loses and goes out? He isn't a money-maker and hasn't got anything at the moment other than a belt. He would fall quite badly if he were to go out at the group stage, IMHO:good.

[antcull]

Hatton!!!!

Think they may have already happened mate

[ishy]

Nathan Cleverly if he steps up to world level

[carrotcruncher]

Froch

[Lee Mc]

Already mentioned, Carl Froch.

He has at least 2 fights against top quality opposition lined up for next year, Kessler and Abraham, and I think he loses both. The only way to save his career may be to move up to 175 and fight Pascal again.

I think Kelly Pavlik will fall from grace either through the public and, more importantly, the television stations becoming tired of his poor opposition (to think that we used to moan about Jermain Taylor) or because he will lose to Paul Williams.

If he fights either of the Klitschko brothers I think Haye not only loses but has to think about his career. He may suprise us towards the end of 2010 with his retirement.

[carrotcruncher]

Already mentioned, Carl Froch.

He has at least 2 fights against top quality opposition lined up for next year, Kessler and Abraham, and I think he loses both. The only way to save his career may be to move up to 175 and fight Pascal again.

I think Kelly Pavlik will fall from grace either through the public and, more importantly, the television stations becoming tired of his poor opposition (to think that we used to moan about Jermain Taylor) or because he will lose to Paul Williams.

If he fights either of the Klitschko brothers I think Haye not only loses but has to think about his career. He may suprise us towards the end of 2010 with his retirement.

Froch may get away with kessler, who might be on the slide. Although in Denmark it will be tough. Abrahams only fights 20 secs per round, but may still be too hard for Carl.

[carrotcruncher]

Froch may get away with kessler, who might be on the slide. Although in Denmark it will be tough. Abrahams only fights 20 secs per round, but may still be too hard for Carl.

Pavlik on the piss apparently

[icemax]

Jason Booth :deal pure class

Booth seems to have put his problems behind him and does look a million dollars...lets see what happens when he steps up a level :thumbsup

[Losfer_Words]

Afraid not :-(

I dont think 36 yr old JMM fairs well in the current 140 division, would love to be proved wrong though.

I'd prefer him to stay at 135, TBH. He's undoubtedly the best at the weight and has two interesting potential fights in Katsidis and Valero; I also think he beats both. 140 is obviously a huge step considering his age, but I think he still has the beating of most of the titleholders at the weight. He could feasibly pick a title up at the weight, IMO. As I said before, though, I'd much rather he stayed at 135.

[Will]

Not at all. He'd prove that he was one of the premier guys at 168, but not adaptable and skillful enough to beat everyone out there. Where does he go if he loses and goes out? He isn't a money-maker and hasn't got anything at the moment other than a belt. He would fall quite badly if he were to go out at the group stage, IMHO:good.

The first bit is well put.

If he were to fail in the Super6 I would say there still my be the odd money fight out there for him as 2 out of the last 3 have been terrific entertainment,

Also there is always a re-match with Pascal which would now be a massive fight and the TV's would deffinately be interested!

[Losfer_Words]

The first bit is well put.

If he were to fail in the Super6 I would say there still my be the odd money fight out there for him as 2 out of the last 3 have been terrific entertainment,

Also there is always a re-match with Pascal which would now be a massive fight and the TV's would deffinately be interested!

Oh yeah, a Pascal rematch would be an option, but it could very well be his only option after the Super 6 and there is also no guarantee that Pascal will still have his title by then either; as a result of this, the fight might not be as lucrative as it would be right now if both weren't tied up.

As for other options, if Froch goes out in the group stages I think he'll struggle to land huge fights without the belt as he isn't even a big name in the UK and he would be irrelevant in the US. He has the most to lose in the tourney, IMO.

[Will]

Oh yeah, a Pascal rematch would be an option, but it could very well be his only option after the Super 6 and there is also no guarantee that Pascal will still have his title by then either; as a result of this, the fight might not be as lucrative as it would be right now if both weren't tied up.

As for other options, if Froch goes out in the group stages I think he'll struggle to land huge fights without the belt as he isn't even a big name in the UK and he would be irrelevant in the US. He has the most to lose in the tourney, IMO.

You make a valid point.

If he could get through relatively unscaved and Pascal was still belt-holder at LHW a rematch win at LHW would massively add to Carls stock IMO and obviously make him a two weight champ like his heroe JC!!! lol

[Funtime Frankie]

Nathan Cleverly if he steps up to world level

Good to see young british boxers have got our support :huh

[Jordan]

Same fighters I thought of as I saw this topic ill also add Vasquez or Rafa Marquez, one or both of them will retire after the next fight

Amen, a step too far for both. Lets hope they have enough in the tank, without causing any damage.

[icemax]

Good to see young british boxers have got our support :huh

Be fair...I support Doncaster Rovers, my support wouldn't stop them getting mullared by Real Madrid or Barca

[Carnage]

Good to see young british boxers have got our support :huh
:lol::lol:
Froch can either got to hero or to zero after these two fights this year. Hopefully he can pull it off against Kessler, whos coming off a loss and Abraham, if Froch can work his jab, could be beatable!

I think Pavlik could if he loses to Williams, BHop if hes inactive for the most part of the year.

And yeah Jason Booth is a quality fighter, needs to just get the right support now to take him to titles!

[harvinmagler]

paul williams after he loses to pavlik

[Will]

paul williams after he loses to pavlik

I agree with you on the result but I think Williams will still be the man at the lower weight,

Love the name by the way!:good

[Grievesy]

Valero - Hype ends when he steps it up
Calderon - Getting old now and has looked terrible in his last few fights (even allowing for the awkward/dirty opponent)
Mosley -Age catching up with him
Darchinyan - When he gets KTFO by Donaire again (although I'd expect him to bounce back again as well)

All I've got for the moment..

[Jordan]

Mayweather. Loses to Pac TKO, loses rematch/warm up for Pac rematch with The Hitman with a career ending 4th round body punch, then dissapears of to Las Vegas where he garners more negative press coverage than a Pete Doherty squat session.

[Jordan]

..............I dreamed a dream

[Grant1]

Be fair...I support Doncaster Rovers, my support wouldn't stop them getting mullared by Real Madrid or Barca

Brian Stock to Cardiff City in January :deal

[Top Dog]

Khan, when he steps it up he will lose, world class speed, world class frailties

[RyDogg123]

Good to see young british boxers have got our support :huh

He's right though, he's overrated and bellew would smoke him aswell

[servo]

Khan, when he steps it up he will lose, world class speed, world class frailties

IF Khan was to fall from grace it won't be in 2010. He will beat Malignaggi and then take a fight late on in the year - against whom i can't really tell until options open for him, but i think 2010 will be his biggest year.

[safc1990]

No mention of Haye? If he loses to one of the Klits his stock will crash big time.

[icemax]

Brian Stock to Cardiff City in January :deal

:think He hasn't come back from injury yet. To be honest I don't care who Rovers have to sell to raise the cash to make Sharps move permanent, but I would rather it wasn't Stock.

[Dan684]

Juan Manuel Marquez, Hopkins, Mosley, Hatton (again) Vitali, Pacquiao, Calderon and Donaire on the world stage

Smith, Rhodes, Jennings, Cleverley, Macklin, Murray and Haskins on the domestic front.

[servo]

No mention of Haye? If he loses to one of the Klits his stock will crash big time.

I think everyone on the Brit forum is in agreement that this isn't a possibility. :D

[faisal]

valero will be unocovered as a charlatan I'm sure of it
amir khan-he cant hide from a puncher forever
haye-same with khan when hes smacked on the chin by wlad or vitali he's fucked
carl froch-technically flawed if kessler still has it i think he'll perminately ruin froch,
gamboa- iv a very good feeling rogers mtagwa will do a job on him
julio cesar chavez- when he steps up he'll get the same treatment salita recived
Roman martinez-there for the taking
lower domestic level
tyson furry- his pants are getting pulled down if he fights saxton or any other decent domestic level heavy

[Primadonna Kool]

David Haye anyone..?

[dublynflya]

David Haye anyone..?

David and Carl Froch! Let's hope both prove me wrong!!

[TFFP]

Marquez - Can see him losing to a few fighters at 140 or Pac if the rematch happens

Mosley - Berto to shock him, if not I can definitely see him losing next year considering the names lined up for him

Froch - High possibility, has tough fights and hasn't looked good

Haye - Klitschkos...enough said. Canvas for David.

Hopkins - Can see him ending up on the wrong side of a decision to Chad

Campillo - Not really a top echelon fighter, only has the belt on loan

Sturm - Having left his promoter he can no longer face chicken feed

Macklin - Loses to Pirog

Maidana - Loses to Alexander or somebody else

Soto - Isn't going to fair well against the best at 135

Chris John - Can't hang with Gamboa or Lopez

Calderon - Could be the year his poor performance finally bites him on the ass.

[P4PNo.1]

Vitali if he fights Haye.

[Aznhybrid]

Valero.
and maybe Vitali.

[safc1990]

I think everyone on the Brit forum is in agreement that this isn't a possibility. :D

Fair enough. Hope you're all right. :D

[UndisputedUK]

Carl Froch isn't a bad shout. Massive year for him, hopefully he won't fall out of the spotlight though.

Dare i say PW if he loses out to Pav next year?

If Froch doesn't fall apart and wins his next few fights, then he deserves massive credit!

[UndisputedUK]

Juan Manuel Marquez, Hopkins, Mosley, Hatton (again) Vitali, Pacquiao, Calderon and Donaire on the world stage

Smith, Rhodes, Jennings, Cleverley, Macklin, Murray and Haskins on the domestic front.

Not so sure about Rhodes, he's pretty gifted and deserves the benefit of the doubt for his recent performance. Could get a crack at a title or a vacant shot.

Cleverley is developing, but could fall from grace, but with Campillo and Brahmer with WBA and WBO belts and knowing Frank ******'s clout with both organisations a world title shot is certainly within reach in 2010.
Neither of those fighters would worry Cleverly from a technical point of view.

[Diablo]

Vitali will give all these new Haye fans a reality check.

Others will likely be Froch and JMM.

[UndisputedUK]

Vitali will give all these new Haye fans a reality check.

Others will likely be Froch and JMM.

I hope Froch can raise his game.

[DOM5153]

i pray to the lord not Kessler

[ApatheticLeader]

Rafael Marquez + Vazquez.

JMM is a cert.

Hozumi Hasegawa

Ryan Rhodes.

PBF

Chris John

Margarito (I mean fall even further from grace, if that's possible)

Witter

Arthur Abraham

Vitali

Pavlik

Sergio Martinez

Darchinyan (sadly)

Joan Guzman

Nate Campbell

Oh yes, and all the British heavyweights with aspirations to go somewhere.

[rorymullan]

Why say Nathan Cleverly. Surly you can only support an upcoming talented boxer. How do you know whats going to happen when he steps up.

[victorhugo4222]

Definitely agree with Froch and JuanMa.

How about domestically? This should be a year when alot of domestic fighters should be making significant steps up in Munroe/Macklin/Cleverly/Murray/Brook/Barker/McEwan/Lindsay etc.
Who will lose out of that lot next year?

Lindsay will lose to simpson

[victorhugo4222]

Carl Froch for sure

[dublynflya]

If Froch doesn't fall apart and wins his next few fights, then he deserves massive credit!

:good I doubt that anyone could argue with that mate. I think Froch has a tough year ahead of him and he has looked vulnerable. I want him to go through the year unbeaten but I just can't see it.

[destruction]

Carl Froch 100%.

I think that Vitali will retire this year, he is clearly on his last legs.

[Kid Lucky]

Israel Vasquez
Kelly Pavilk
Shane Mosley

[Chinny]

Not a very brave prediction to say Froch when he has the balls to fight, back to back

Pascal, Taylor, Dirrell, Kessler, Abraham

The man is a legend

[Chinny]

I predict James Toney will finally be stopped in 2010 as it looks like he's looking to step up a few levels again to a Tua type opponent.