View Full Version : Another hype job is going down tonight also.
Amsterdam
09-29-2007, 04:18 PM
In addition to the obvious Taylor-Pavlik match up, we have Berto versus Estrada. Estrada is all wrong for Berto in my opinion and has the power to crack Berto's evident glass chin.
Pressure-relentlessness-decent skills-moderate power + Enough to beat Berto, who is an overrated hype job.
Anyone else picking Estrada?
Ambition_Def
09-29-2007, 04:22 PM
Berto won't take chances with Estrada like he did Rivera.
He'll win a comfortable decision over Estrada.
fightfanatic1
09-29-2007, 04:22 PM
i thought about taking estrada in this fight due to Bertos performance last time out. but i still don't think the flash knockdown is enough to warrant glass jaw or any other term for berto. he got caught coming in and with a clean punch. he managed to get his legs back and still win the fight.
Plus he still has the power to keep anyone honest. Like i said i thought Estrada pulling off the upset and still think he'll give a great account of himself in this fight and show that he isn't out of his league but ultimately Berto should win a UD.
and for the record I'm going with Pavlik tonight.
jopez707
09-29-2007, 04:23 PM
In addition to the obvious Taylor-Pavlik match up, we have Berto versus Estrada. Estrada is all wrong for Berto in my opinion and has the power to crack Berto's evident glass chin.
Pressure-relentlessness-decent skills-moderate power + Enough to beat Berto, who is an overrated hype job.
Anyone else picking Estrada?
By this you mean obviously, Pavlik right?:lol:
bumdujour
09-29-2007, 04:41 PM
berto will outclass this kid.
Toopretty
09-29-2007, 04:46 PM
Berto is a talented but dumb fighter. He wont last long undefeated.
Max Molyneux
09-29-2007, 04:47 PM
In addition to the obvious Taylor-Pavlik match up, we have Berto versus Estrada. Estrada is all wrong for Berto in my opinion and has the power to crack Berto's evident glass chin.
Pressure-relentlessness-decent skills-moderate power + Enough to beat Berto, who is an overrated hype job.
Anyone else picking Estrada?
Is your prediction good enough to bet Vcash on?
brooklyn1550
09-29-2007, 04:48 PM
I don't think he will taste defeat tonight...
Berto by UD
Astola
09-29-2007, 04:52 PM
I dont think Berto is anything at all - but he wont loose to Estrada imho. He will win by KO - but the next time he steps up in competition I see him loosing. From what Ive sen his defence is poor.
brooklyn1550
09-29-2007, 04:54 PM
I dont think Berto is anything at all - but he wont loose to Estrada imho. He will win by KO - but the next time he steps up in competition I see him loosing. From what Ive sen his defence is poor.
He seems stiff too - I would bet on Quintana to outbox him
BIGTIMETIMMY
09-29-2007, 05:25 PM
i got my money on estrada
fightfanatic1
09-29-2007, 05:27 PM
how do you bet vcash on here? i'm fairly new to this site.
bachatu
09-29-2007, 05:28 PM
Estrada is tough... thats about it. He doesnt have great offensive skills, he doesnt have great defensive skills. He just pressures and thats about it. I didn't see him hurt either Cintron or Mosley once. He is a b-level fighter who can last 12 rounds but is not good enough to win against someone with more athleticism and offensive skills. I say he looses by KO or UD.
Brickhaus
09-29-2007, 05:31 PM
I honestly don't see Berto losing. He might get knocked down at some point, and Estrada will be a stiff test, but he doesn't have enough power to flat knock out Berto, and he's not skilled enough to outbox him (i.e. Berto's speed negates his boxing ability). This step up might be too soon for Berto, IMHO, as he has a lot of work to do on his defense, but I don't think he loses this one.
Call me brainwashed, but I say Berto close UD, Taylor MD. Not confident enough in either to put money down though.
brooklyn1550
09-29-2007, 05:32 PM
how do you bet vcash on here? i'm fairly new to this site.
Go to the Fantasy Boxing Betting forum...click on a fight, and enter in the amount of vCash you want to bet.
fightfanatic1
09-29-2007, 05:33 PM
Go to the Fantasy Boxing Betting forum...click on a fight, and enter in the amount of vCash you want to bet.
thank you sir.
Lance_Uppercut
09-29-2007, 07:29 PM
Is everyone with a fanbase over hyped to you? Jeez your a cunt... :patsch
Amsterdam
09-29-2007, 07:32 PM
Is everyone with a fanbase over hyped to you? Jeez your a cunt... :patsch
No, ignorant boy, only fighters who recieve early praise who do not deserve it in the least bit, which is Andre Berto with his leaky D and glass chin.
But, this will be solved tonight.
Carlos Primera
09-29-2007, 07:41 PM
has bertos chin been officialy classified as glass? a little vcash on estrada would'nt hurt.
Pimp C
09-29-2007, 11:07 PM
In addition to the obvious Taylor-Pavlik match up, we have Berto versus Estrada. Estrada is all wrong for Berto in my opinion and has the power to crack Berto's evident glass chin.
Pressure-relentlessness-decent skills-moderate power + Enough to beat Berto, who is an overrated hype job.
Anyone else picking Estrada?
You'll be wrong twice tonight.:lol: :yep
andyZOR
09-29-2007, 11:09 PM
Is everyone with a fanbase over hyped to you? Jeez your a cunt... :patsch
Heh.
he's killing him. i hope your not worng on both fights.
Pimp C
09-29-2007, 11:11 PM
he's killing him. i hope your not worng on both fights.
Don't worry he will be.
Lacyace
09-29-2007, 11:13 PM
Wrong.
i'm still picking Pavlik. even though amsterdam jinxed him.
boxbox
09-29-2007, 11:26 PM
estrada lacks speed and power..berto was just playing with him..
China_hand_Joe
09-30-2007, 12:10 AM
Berto.
He is a great athlete, probably using performance enchancing drugs. Fast, strong etc...good fundementals and defence.
But everything he does is a bit simple, he has few subtlties in his game. Not much feinting etc... Which will prevent him ever becoming special.
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