Valuev-Bergeron RbR

[Hooldum]

Please:p

[kk17]

I can do

[Hooldum]

Exellent:happy
I can do

[The Cyborg]

What is going on now? Still the undercard?

[Bostonmma]

anyone know if Mario Preskar won on the undercard?

[kk17]

(sorry for my english) They are still talking with H.Maske and they are speaking over bergeron

[The Cyborg]

It is ok your English is good.

[Brickhaus]

Bergeron TKO -1.

[kk17]

They show a clip with Bergeron training on plateau shoes

[ChrisPontius]

Ring walks are starting now.

[buddynabuick]

(sorry for my english) They are still talking with H.Maske and they are speaking over bergeron


Your English is better than mime:good

[brooklyn1550]

Bergeron will win this EASY...if he's on, nobody could beat him.

[kk17]

ok fight starts now

[The Cyborg]

Bergeron will win this EASY...if he's on, nobody could beat him.

I just hope he shows up in the ring.

[NBT]

fight started valuev taking the centre, Bergeron circling and not doing much
valuev landed a right hand

[Asterion]

Valuev is going to win this, imo.

[Maden]

1. Round 10-9 Valuev!

[ChrisPontius]

Round 1 utterly boring.

Bergeron made a total of 3 attacks (!) during the entire round and looked horrible, landed nothing. He ran (walked) around the ring backwards all the time, Valuev landed a right hand and an uppercut. He didn't land much but at least was active and took the round. Valuev 10 9

[kk17]

first round goes to Valuev Bergeron was staying away from him

[NBT]

valuev tried to jab, landed 2 right hands and a right uppercut in the first
10-9 valuev

[Zhaakal]

Yea first round was snail paced... Valuev pressed the attach and cought him with a right and an uppercut.

[NBT]

bergeron will get knocked out, it's just a matter of time

[Maden]

Round 2. 10-9 Bergeron!

[NBT]

bergeron landed a punch hooray

[ChrisPontius]

Round 2 Bergeron

He did a bit more, they traded punches a few times, Valuev had the best of the first two minutes but Bergeron landed a straight left hand (southpaw) that actually buckled Valuev's knees, strange, his punches are very slow and seem to have little snap.

[kk17]

big punch landed from Bergeron but round 2 goes to Valuev

[Zhaakal]

2 round.

More action than in the first. Valuev got some good shots in at the firs half but at the last 30 secs got hit by a nice shot from Bergeron that buckled him for a sec.

[brooklyn1550]

Bergeron is a slow starter. Not because he likes to take time and analyze his opponent, but because he likes them to get increasingly confident. Once they can smell victory, he turns it on, demoralizes them, and crushes them. Valuev will be no different.

[Maden]

Round 3. 10-9 Bergeron!

[ChrisPontius]

Round 3 for Bergeron again. He seems to copy Chagaev's book on how to beat Valuev exactly, coming in and throwing double straight left hands and backpaddeling the rest of the time. It works well.

[kk17]

Ok 3 round to Bergeron he was doing more and landed often

[Zhaakal]

3 Round

To bergeron. Valuev i think cought him with a right uppercut in the start. Bergeron is frustrateing Valuev with his left hand. Bergerons left hand is his best weapon so far, finds it's target a lot. I'd give this round to Bergeron

[brooklyn1550]

Valuev doesnt know what to do, he´s going to quit ;-)

Bergeron can do that to you

[fadeintobolivia]

I think Bergeron will win this fight because he is to mobile perhaps even with a knockout mark my words !

[Maden]

Round 4. 10-10

[kk17]

round 4 was close Bergeron hasn't power he can only win on points vs Valuev

[buddynabuick]

first round goes to Valuev Bergeron was staying away from him



I would as well:yikes

[ChrisPontius]

Round 4 i had a draw.

Both men landed powershots (one or two), Valuev threw more and came forward but most of it was not effective, i.e. not much landed.

An interesting observation, i actually saw Valuev take a step back. I've never seen him do that other than when he got tagged.

[Zhaakal]

4 round - Bergeron

Valueb only got 1 shot in while Bergerons left keeps finding the target. Bergeron the faster and more mobile man. Valuev does look calm though.

[buddynabuick]

Bergeron is a slow starter. Not because he likes to take time and analyze his opponent, but because he likes them to get increasingly confident. Once they can smell victory, he turns it on, demoralizes them, and crushes them. Valuev will be no different.


I'm lovin this.

[buddynabuick]

Bergeron can do that to you





:lol:

[Maden]

Round 5. 10-9 Valuev

[kk17]

round 5 was the best of Valuev 10-9 Valuev

[Zhaakal]

Round 5 - Valuev

Valuev scored more and got a couple of hard shots in. The overhand left from Valuev made the sweat fly from Bergerons head.

[ChrisPontius]

Round 5 Bergeron. Again he landed good quick left hands. Valuev also landed a few hard right hands though. Interesting is that he seemed to put his body weight behind a few, whereas normally he throws arm punches. He also made Bergeron miss a few times. He's not a "completely different" fighter as he promised, but he did make a few changes.

[kk17]

I can't see much difference on Valuev boxing skills

[southpaw_25]

Way to go JF!

[Maden]

Round 6. 10-9 Bergeron

[ChrisPontius]

Round 6 Bergeron, by a wide margin. Valuev only landed something in the last half minute but nothing much. I can seen Bergeron boxing to safe decision like this, he's already 4-1-1 ahead on my card.

[Zhaakal]

Round 6 - Valuev

A very even round but i'd give it to Valuev couse he was pushing the attack, every time Bergeron tried a combo he blocked it.

[pipe wrenched]

DAMN!!! Bergeron might do it!

[DamonD]

I'm still expecting Valuev's sheer mass to tire out Bergeron, and for Nikolay to rally for the late TKO win.

Interesting to hear Bergeron's success with little more than a decent straight left, though.

[brooklyn1550]

DAMN!!! Bergeron might do it!

:huhIs that a surprise to you

[southpaw_25]

Bergeron!!!!bergeron!!!!bergeron!!!!bergeron!!!!bergeron!!!!

[Maden]

Round 7. 10-9 Valuev

[ChrisPontius]

Round 7 another one for Bergeron. The left hand keeps coming through, Valuev ducks a few which is new, but it's simply not enough and he can't get enough of his own punches in.

[MrMagic]

:huhIs that a surprise to you
I've seen a JFB amatuer fight and I've seen a couple of his pro fights, the guy sucks. Attila Levin knocked him out in the amatuers.

[Zhaakal]

Round 7 - Valuev

A pretty even round again but Valuev got in a strong right that stunned Bergeron for a split second.

[pipe wrenched]

:huhIs that a surprise to you

I guess I had been to busy with my nose up the wrong fighters asses to notice the phenomenal Burgeron. I have now seen the error in my ways and will not doubt again.

[kk17]

round 7 goes to Valuev

[ufoalf]

Round 7 another one for Bergeron. The left hand keeps coming through, Valuev ducks a few which is new, but it's simply not enough and he can't get enough of his own punches in.

rofl, someone's biased :roll:

[Maden]

Round 7 another one for Bergeron. The left hand keeps coming through, Valuev ducks a few which is new, but it's simply not enough and he can't get enough of his own punches in.

You must be Canadian!

[Brickhaus]

Round 6 Bergeron, by a wide margin. Valuev only landed something in the last half minute but nothing much. I can seen Bergeron boxing to safe decision like this, he's already 4-1-1 ahead on my card.

However, since it's in Germany, it's probably 4-2 Valuev on the judges' scorecards right now.

[ufoalf]

However, since it's in Germany, it's probably 4-2 Valuev on the judges' scorecards right now.

Germany's neutral.

[brooklyn1550]

I've seen a JFB amatuer fight and I've seen a couple of his pro fights, the guy sucks. Attila Levin knocked him out in the amatuers.

Good one:lol:

[kk17]

boring fight

[Astola]

Valuev needs to begin swinging wild punches. Boxing/punching is clearly not working for him.

[Maden]

Round 8. 10-9 Bergeron.

Bergeron up by 1

[Zhaakal]

Round 8 - Bergeron

Bergeron tagged Valuev with his straight left, definately his best weapon.

[Bubba]

Does Bergeron have a shot at winning the fight?!

[ChrisPontius]

Round 8 Bergeron.

Same story with the left hand.

Interesting fact is that Valuev has landed at best 5 jabs in the entire fight. Bergeron completely neutralised Valuev's jab using footwork (Valuev is too slow off foot) and glove blocking. Bergeron himself barely uses jabs, like most of Valuev's opponents.
Valuev should cut off the ring better to compensate for his slow speed of foot.

[Astola]

Valuevs trainer looks like a midget:yep

[DamonD]

No-one likes those southpaws...even worse when you're not the most mobile guy in the ring, and a large target.

[Brickhaus]

Germany's neutral.

But Valuev's been based out of Germany for the past 5 years (and more importantly, has German promoters), and they'll probably treat him like one of their own.

[BIGTIMETIMMY]

valuev fear bergeron

[Burundanga]

Why can't the giant Valuev KTFO anyone???

[Maden]

Round 9. 10-9 Valuev

[kk17]

round 9 10-9 Valuev

[Zhaakal]

Round 9 - Valuev

Valuev is pushin the attack, poppin the jab and cought him with a nice right hand. Bergeron though got a couple of lefts in too but simply too inactive.

[ChrisPontius]

Round 9 Bergeron.

Valuev is so far behind that he can only win with several knockdowns or a knockout, on my card. Although you never know when Valuev fights (bad judges). Bergeron is showing no sign at all of getting tired. I think he'll cruise to a safe decision, which is almost becoming a shutout decision.

He's doing better than any other Valuev opponent up to now, including Chagaev, Ruiz and Donald.

[Ilesey]

Sounds as if this fight is there for the taking. It seems as if it could go either way......:?

[MrMagic]

Round 9 Bergeron.

Valuev is so far behind that he can only win with several knockdowns or a knockout, on my card. Although you never know when Valuev fights (bad judges). Bergeron is showing no sign at all of getting tired. I think he'll cruise to a safe decision, which is almost becoming a shutout decision.

He's doing better than any other Valuev opponent up to now, including Chagaev, Ruiz and Donald.

No, Valuev won Round 9.
Stop the bias :yikes

[ufoalf]

Yea, its Bergerons fight if you look at ChrisPontius's card rofl...

[pipe wrenched]

GOOOOOO Bergeron!

[brooklyn1550]

Bergeron doesn't lose championship rounds

[Maden]

Round 10. 10-9 Valuev.

Valuev up by 1.

[Brickhaus]

Bergeron doesn't lose rounds

Fixed.

[kk17]

round 10 10-9 Valuev Valuev should use his jab more

[Astola]

:-((

[DamonD]

Mixed scorecards here, bound to happen with what sounds like such a close and inactive bout.

Could be some tears if it goes to a decision.

[BIGTIMETIMMY]

bergeron won in my eyes

[brooklyn1550]

Fixed.

:good

[PH|LLA]

my friend, who is Bergeron's promoter's nephew, is watching this fight and texting me the rounds and it seems that Valuev is way ahead.

he says he gave Bergeron 2 clear rounds and there's a few that could go either way

[Zhaakal]

Round 10 - Valuev

Valuev is backing him up, poppin the jab and hitting nice body shots. Bergerons seems to be looking for a one shot KO wich is very tupid, he should be more on his toes, box, not look for a one shot KO.

[ChrisPontius]

Round 10 to Valuev, for a change.

He did a fairly good job of slipping the left hand from Bergeron, which suprised me. He landed a good amount of jabs (for the first time basically) and a few right handed body shots, giving him the round. His jab looked pretty hard, by the way. But he needs to do more to win the fight.


Bergeron look as much as a 30-to-1 underdog (vcash betting) as Douglas was 44-to-1 against Tyson.

[brisback]

so far a snooz-fest:zzz

[Asterion]

I bet this fight is damn close in the scorecards.

[brooklyn1550]

Valuev will get the decision

[DamonD]

Bet Bergeron is looking real tired at the moment, right?

[Maden]

Round 11. 10-9 Valuev

[sues2nd]

Thanks guys for the round by round...just got in and I feel like Im fairly caught up.

[brooklyn1550]

Bergeron could stay awake for a week...the man doesn't get tired

[ufoalf]

my friend, who is Bergeron's promoter's nephew, is watching this fight and texting me the rounds and it seems that Valuev is way ahead.

he says he gave Bergeron 2 clear rounds and there's a few that could go either way


:deal

[Zhaakal]

Round 11 - Valuev

Valuev still backing him up. Valuev scored with a nice uppercut and a jab. Valuev is winning becouse he is boxing not looking for a one shot KO like Bergeron

[ChrisPontius]

Roudn 11 Valuev

He landed a VERY nice short right hand, something you won't expect from him, but was too slow to follow up and didn't really stun Bergeron. Despite his size he lacks great power. He did land some good jabs also and does a nice job, again, of slipping the left hands from Bergeron. Seems he solved some problems but is it too late? He does keep up the tradition of coming on strong in the last rounds.

[kk17]

round 11 was close i give it to Valuev

[andyZOR]

valuev is down 10-8 bergeron

What do you mean Down?!

[ufoalf]

valuev is down 10-8 bergeron

:lol:

[The Whaler]

Valuev's still alive?

Strange....

[sues2nd]

valuev is down 10-8 bergeron

DOWN???

[kk17]

12 round Valuev is strong

[brooklyn1550]

If Valuev went down, he would fall through the canvas

[andyZOR]

If Valuev went down, he would fall through the canvas

Oh no, not you too... :(

[Maden]

Round 12. 10-9 Valuev!

Valuev by 3 points on my card!

[kk17]

fight is over

[brooklyn1550]

Oh no, not you too... :(

What does that mean?

[MrMagic]

Please I hope Valuev won :lol:

[Asterion]

Valuev will get the decision.

[andyZOR]

What does that mean?

[ The Avatar ]

:rofl

[David Tua]

If Valuev went down, he would fall through the canvas

especially wiv bergerons power

hes like a heavyweight julian jackson

[brooklyn1550]

Seems like a 7-5 or 8-4 fight in Valuev's favor...he will get the UD

[sues2nd]

What was up with all of the Beaker avatars for Bergeron. Dont get me wrong, they were hilarious....but whats the connection?

[PH|LLA]

Valuev by a wide margin

[brooklyn1550]

[ The Avatar ]

:rofl

:lol: It's coming down in about 3 minutes or whenever Valuev gets the decision

[Zhaakal]

Round 12 - VALUEV

Valuev came out danceing like an oversized Ali and was clearly looking to KO Bergeron. Got in a lot of nice shots on Bergeron. Valuev had more stamina than Bergeron and was more on his toes, boxing.

[ChrisPontius]

Round 12 Valuev.

Crowd going crazy despite not all that much action. Valuev tagged Bergeron with some hard shots and caught him on the ropes a few times. Valuev was doing a SRL imitation with the windmilling right hand and then throwing a jab. He also did the Ali shuffle (or something that looked like it). A bit embarassing but he did win the round fair and square. Bergeron was completly neutralised now that he consistently ducked the left hand. If only he did it earlier.

Bergeron 7-4-1 is my scorecard. Clear win for Bergeron.

[Mrvooh]

Bergeron sounds as though he isn't at all like was posted on him...:-(

[andyZOR]

:lol: It's coming down in about 3 minutes or whenever Valuev gets the decision

rofl. :D

[The Whaler]

What was up with all of the Beaker avatars for Bergeron. Dont get me wrong, they were hilarious....but whats the connection?

Who's beaker? The avatars we display are of the Proud Warrior Bergeron.

[brooklyn1550]

What was up with all of the Beaker avatars for Bergeron. Dont get me wrong, they were hilarious....but whats the connection?

He looks like Beaker - on Fight News, there is a picture of the staredown and they look extremely similar.:lol:

[pipe wrenched]

What was up with all of the Beaker avatars for Bergeron. Dont get me wrong, they were hilarious....but whats the connection?

I had to ask the same question earlier, til someone posted photo's of Bergeron, then you get it pretty quick.

[sues2nd]

Who's beaker? The avatars we display are of the Proud Warrior Bergeron.

The muppet in all of your avatars.

[kk17]

118-111 117-111 118-111 Valuev

[The Whaler]

The muppet in all of your avatars.

Bergeron is not a muppet. :nono

[sues2nd]

He looks like Beaker - on Fight News, there is a picture of the staredown and they look extremely similar.:lol:

NOW THAT IS FUNNY....going there now to check....:lol:

Thanks bro!

[Zhaakal]

118:111 117:111 118:112 to winner NICOLAY VALUEV!!!

[ufoalf]

Valuev is awesome. He knows it's funny if HE does the Ali shuffle, he's not doing it because he thinks he's fast or anything.

[ChrisPontius]

Valuev got the win. a travesty. God damn. He can't be beaten on points and can't be knocked out. You better not fight him.

[Hooldum]

Thanks for RbR guys:good

[sues2nd]

Bergeron is not a muppet. :nono

:rofl

[The Whaler]

The FBI drugged Jean-Francois Bergeron.

[Asterion]

118:111 117:111 118:112 to winner NICOLAY VALUEV!!!


Fuck, I knew he was going to win this. :twisted::twisted:

[PH|LLA]

hahahaha this goes to show how shittily people score fights on ESB. My friend sent me an SMS and he has is 118-111 Valuev with one even round and he is the nephew of Bergeron's promoter so if anything he should be biased towards Bergeron

[ChrisPontius]

I'm embarrassed that my fellow countryman judge had this a corrupt 118-111 for Valuev :oops:

[sues2nd]

Thanks for the RBR guys...

[Zhaakal]

Valuev won this one but to me it is clear that both Valuev and Bergeron would loose easy to a good Heavyweight

[brooklyn1550]

Thanks for the round by round...

Bergeron will be back. Every great fighter needs to suffer a loss to show what they are truly made of.

[ufoalf]

Thank for RbR, it went pretty much as i expected it to. Valuev outboxed someone :rofl

[Chief_Second]

didn't see the fight but sounds like valuev danced around the ring all night with slick boxing skills only seen by ali previously

[MrMagic]

Valuev got the win. a travesty. God damn. He can't be beaten on points and can't be knocked out. You better not fight him.

Fuck off, Valuev > Bergeron even if he was pregnant in the 10th month. :bart

[Mrvooh]

Bergeron had better not try out Wlad...or Vitali for that matter...Not if he lost to Valuev :-( :verysad

[The Whaler]

The FBI drugged Bergeron. There is no other explanation.

Either that or Valuev had glass in his dreads.

[ChrisPontius]

Even Valuev says the decision is "fraglich" and that he understands some of the crowds booing, can a German translate that? Doesn't it mean something like disputable?

[kk17]

boring fight !!!!! Valuev is still the old

[southpaw_25]

Woah, a German-based fighter beat another Canadian on points. What a surprise.

[pipe wrenched]

The FBI drugged Bergeron. There is no other explanation.

Either that or Valuev had glass in his dreads.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:p
Damn that was good one!

[Zhaakal]

Yea, Valuev was more on his toes and boxing, puting combos togeather, useing his jab a lot, when close hiting nice body shots and even a couple of hooks a couple of times. Like i said before, Bergeron was counteing on his left hand to try to KO Valuev with one lucky shot. If Bergeron would have been on his toes and boxed he might have won couse he had a nice jab and his left was very good also.

[ChrisPontius]

Gotta love the German live translater for the broadcaster, by the way.

Bergeron: He threw a lot of punches, but not many of them landed
Translater: Valuev threw really heavy punches

[kk17]

''fraglich'' means questionable

[Maden]

What time does Taylor - Pavlik starts, european time?

[brooklyn1550]

The FBI drugged Bergeron. There is no other explanation.

Either that or Valuev had glass in his dreads.

Bergeron threw the fight. As cross_trainer said, "he is a cunning man that Bergeron." He knew that he needed to taste defeat and come back even stronger just so the public would realize that he could face adversity. Because if he fought like he normally does, he would steamroll anybody - Wlad, Peter, Tua, McCall, etc - and then the public would have doubts about his resolve and heart.

A perfectly calculated decision by JFB which should help him and his legacy in the long run.

Expect him to win his first belt within the year and then set his sights on Wlad.

[ChrisPontius]

Gotta say, Bergeron shows a lot of sportmanship. He thanked the German public for a nice reception etc, right after in my (and his) opinion losing a fight he should've lost.

[Cachibatches]

Bergeron threw the fight. As cross_trainer said, "he is a cunning man that Bergeron." He knew that he needed to taste defeat and come back even stronger just so the public would realize that he could face adversity. Because if he fought like he normally does, he would steamroll anybody - Wlad, Peter, Tua, McCall, etc - and then the public would have doubts about his resolve and heart.

A perfectly calculated decision by JFB which should help him and his legacy in the long run.

Expect him to win his first belt within the year and then set his sights on Wlad.
IT is the ONLY conceivable explanation.

[The Whaler]

Bergeron threw the fight. As cross_trainer said, "he is a cunning man that Bergeron." He knew that he needed to taste defeat and come back even stronger just so the public would realize that he could face adversity. Because if he fought like he normally does, he would steamroll anybody - Wlad, Peter, Tua, McCall, etc - and then the public would have doubts about his resolve and heart.

A perfectly calculated decision by JFB which should help him and his legacy in the long run.

Expect him to win his first belt within the year and then set his sights on Wlad.

I hope you're right, but I heard that Valuev tried to Ali Shuffle on Bergeron.

Bergeron once killed a man for such disrespect.

[brooklyn1550]

Bergeron once killed a man for such disrespect.

Valuev should stay aware and awake tonight:yep

[Zhaakal]

I hope you're right, but I heard that Valuev tried to Ali Shuffle on Bergeron.

Bergeron once killed a man for such disrespect.

:D:D:D Yea, the shuffle was cool.

[pipe wrenched]

Man, if the rest of todays boxing festivities turn out to be as fun as this was, it will be one hell of a day.

[pipe wrenched]

Thanks for the RbR and all the damn laughing you Bergeron Avatar crew have provided. Ya'll have made my day.

[Bostonmma]

Valuev should face the winner of TOS/Meehan next, the winner could then have a decent claim for a title shot.

[ufoalf]

Gotta say, Bergeron shows a lot of sportmanship. He thanked the German public for a nice reception etc, right after in my (and his) opinion losing a fight he should've lost.

Freudian slip, anyone?

[buddynabuick]

[ The Avatar ]

:rofl



Leeroy:rofl

[Quik]

118-111 is a joke. I had it 115-114 for valuev but man fuckng german judges fucked it up again. God i hate when fighters go fight in germany.

[kk17]

115 - 113 Valuev should be right

[brooklyn1550]

For those who saw the fight, how do you think Valuev would do against Klitschko, Maskaev, Ibragimov, or Peter?

[ChrisPontius]

I think Klitschko and Ibragimov would beat Valuev rather easily.
Peter would probably beat him as well.

Maskaev.. tough one.

[Zhaakal]

For those who saw the fight, how do you think Valuev would do against Klitschko, Maskaev, Ibragimov, or Peter?

Judgeing from the fight i'm pretty sure he would get his ass handed to him by any good heavyweight. Bergeron was decent but Valuev would loose to a good heavy. I wouldn't be suprised if Klitchko could KO Valuev in 6 rounds.

[Max Molyneux]

Valuev should face the winner of TOS/Meehan next, the winner could then have a decent claim for a title shot.

I remember Danny Williams knocking Meehan the fuck out In 32 seconds.:D

[ChrisPontius]

Freudian slip, anyone?

:lol:

:oops:

[kk17]

If he can take wlads jab and wlad fights his grabbing style and Valuev gets in the later rounds maybe Wlad gets tired and Valuev lands a lucky punch
Ibragimov would clearly win by U.D like in the Briggs fight

[kk17]

I'm not sure about Peter vs Valuev both with good chin's and low skills but Valuev has the better jab and the longer arms.
Vitali, Povetkin ,Ibragimov and Lyakhovich would beat Valuev on points
Valuev would K.o Maskaev

[buddynabuick]

Thanks for the RbR and all the damn laughing you Bergeron Avatar crew have provided. Ya'll have made my day.


:yepgood stuff

[Amsterdam]

Does this put Chagaev into perspective perhaps? Guy wins close over Valuev, wins close over Ruiz and close over Virchis.

That, in my opinion, is not elite level, that's near the level that those 3 second tier level guys are.

[#1]

The scores were terrible. I watched this fight on t.v. and draw would be most reasonable.

[RUSKULL]

Does this put Chagaev into perspective perhaps? Guy wins close over Valuev, wins close over Ruiz and close over Virchis.

That, in my opinion, is not elite level, that's near the level that those 3 second tier level guys are.

Chagaev's accomplishments makes Peter look like shit.

[LennoxGOAT]

Anyone who says the Chagaev-Ruiz fight was close should no longer speak about something they did not watch....

And don't discredit the gameplan Chagaev implemented and executed beautifully against a 7 footer with an iron chin.

And he beat Virchis, which is a great win.

In sum, Chagaev's resume is clearly superior to Peter or anyone else other than Wlad. Fact.