View Full Version : John Wirt writes letter to Combat Sports Indutry in Sydney
daz52
12-23-2009, 07:22 PM
He wrote a letter requesting them to DQ Green.
Part of the letter:
"The wraps "contain an adhesive (polyamide substrate with latex coating) that allows the wrapping to be stretched and secured tightly with a hardening effect (similar to an ACE bandage) in a way that is substantially different from the effect obtained by using traditional soft surgical-type gauze bandages."
A copy of the letter, dated Tuesday, was sent to The Times by Jones' marketing agent, Mercedes Ganon.
Wirt noted that objections to Green's wraps were denied on fight night, and that Jones was told to fight or be disqualified. Green proceeded to stun Jones and then called out the man Jones was supposed to fight next, Bernard Hopkins, in a long-awaited rematch that has since been canceled.
Wirt argued that his company's subsequent inspection of the tape used to secure the bandages showed it was twice the width allowed, and he added that he will take his complaint with the evidence and a photo of Green and the tape to International Boxing Organization President Ed Levine to seek an investigative hearing.
Wirt said a review "leads us to only one conclusion: not only was Mr. Green's hand wrapping clearly in violation of the New South Wales boxing regulations on numerous counts as described ... but also the combination of those violations resulted in a very dangerous weapon ... all boxing hand wrapping regulations are designed to prohibit." Wirt requested an independent probe and hearing in an effort to disqualify Green.
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Whats going to come of this? Anything? Phil help us out?
boxoncottonon
12-23-2009, 07:28 PM
Very interesting Daz, good stuff.
daz52
12-23-2009, 07:37 PM
Found it on the scene of boxing...
You guys would have seen the shots of Danny in his dressing room before the fight. There was what looked to be white gauze along with the brownish tape on his hands. Its the same kind of brown tape that he wraps the laces of his gloves with on the outside. I have only ever seen Aussie fighters wrap their hands this way. Every other country just seems to have white all over their hands.
Anyone shed some light on this brown tape?
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IrnBruMan
12-23-2009, 07:39 PM
Saw this on the general forum.
I've lost all respect I ever had for RJJ with this latest crap.
The guy needs to accept that he is no longer what he once was, and retire before he gets badly damaged.
First it was stopped too soon, then it was an illegal punch, then it was being forced to use used gloves, now it's accusations of loaded gloves.
He should be dealt with swiftly as it is a a big call to accuse someone of using loaded gloves.
I suspect he's trying anything to keep his name in the news because he's terrified of becoming irrelevant in light of a Green vs Hopkins fight looking very likely.
It's a bitch move, whatever his reason for doing it.
daz52
12-23-2009, 07:52 PM
I want an answer to my question. Look at that second pic. I have only every seen tape like that used on Aussie fighters. I want to know what it is and if its legal. And why only Aussie fighters? I mean that shit on Dannys hands is the same shit on his gloves look at the pics.
IrnBruMan
12-23-2009, 07:53 PM
I want an answer to my question. Look at that second pic. I have only every seen tape like that used on Aussie fighters. I want to know what it is and if its legal. And why only Aussie fighters? I mean that shit on Dannys hands is the same shit on his gloves look at the pics.
All I can see is 2 red crosses mate.
daz52
12-23-2009, 08:22 PM
Ill try and find different pics those ones are from Getty maybe thats why they dont work
daz52
12-23-2009, 08:23 PM
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daz52
12-23-2009, 08:24 PM
Those should work. As i said look at the tape to tape the gloves and the tape of his hands. The same ? And is there anything even wrong with that brown tape on your hands? As mentioned i have only ever seen Aussie fighters use that tape on their hands.
shiner
12-23-2009, 08:59 PM
nothing wrong with it whatsoever, it is standard wrapping tape to secure gauze etc underneath, same tape as footballers use for ankles etc.
go away roy, you will get even further embarrassed if you don't!
boxoncottonon
12-23-2009, 09:06 PM
There is next to none on the knuckle......surely if you were claiming loaded gloves you would expect to see intentional and deliberate taping of the knuckles.
If this is the evidence than it is truly desperate of Roy, bad sportsmanship.
Phil Austin
12-23-2009, 10:39 PM
Sorry Daz, am unable to comment on this situation! The letter has been received by the CSA NSW and the IBO. It will be dealt with I guess by the CSA, as handwraps are the jurisdiction of the local state authority. Have a great Crimbo all, Ash dorry I didn't get back to your PM's - I am now in Foster, Vic and I don't have regular internet, I got them on my phone but it would not let me post a reply? I'll talk to you soon on the old dog...
I think we are all just clutching at straws and as phil said its up to people in higher places than us.
If anything does become of it and a rematch is ordered i will put $1000 down that it will be nothing like the 1st fight.
Roy may still lose because he is past it,but not that badly.
daz52
12-24-2009, 01:04 AM
Sorry Daz, am unable to comment on this situation! The letter has been received by the CSA NSW and the IBO. It will be dealt with I guess by the CSA, as handwraps are the jurisdiction of the local state authority. Have a great Crimbo all, Ash dorry I didn't get back to your PM's - I am now in Foster, Vic and I don't have regular internet, I got them on my phone but it would not let me post a reply? I'll talk to you soon on the old dog...
I know you cant say much but could you confirm if there is even a slight or remote chance the fight gets overturned as in turned into a NC or a rematch be ordered? Or in your opinion is Jones clutching at straws.
boxoncottonon
12-24-2009, 02:12 AM
Wow thats an undying commitment.............
"If anything does become of it and a rematch is ordered i will put $1000 down that it will be nothing like the 1st fight"
We'll go on then big shot, call it, for your big noting $1000 call the result, lets hear it!
Decision, knockout, what round........
Wow thats an undying commitment.............
"If anything does become of it and a rematch is ordered i will put $1000 down that it will be nothing like the 1st fight"
We'll go on then big shot, call it, for your big noting $1000 call the result, lets hear it!
Decision, knockout, what round........
OPSM specs for xmas champ?
Read it again.
$1000 bucks says if it was a rematch it doesnt go 122 seconds like the 1st fight,is what it means.
In other words green wont finish it in the 1st round,and i also wrote i think green will still win it.:-(
I never said a $1000 for the result,just that greens flukeish shot wont happen twice.
RayKelly
12-24-2009, 03:20 AM
nothing wrong with it whatsoever, it is standard wrapping tape to secure gauze etc underneath, same tape as footballers use for ankles etc.
go away roy, you will get even further embarrassed if you don't!
Couldn't agree more. Obviously we can't see whats under it but that stuff is nothing different to the tape used by most fighters. Just standard strapping tape that can be bought in any chemist.
one in a million
12-24-2009, 03:32 AM
I like the choice of colour on the inside of his glove, one of the first things I noticed when he walked out.
ozziebattler
12-24-2009, 05:51 AM
I think we are all just clutching at straws and as phil said its up to people in higher places than us.
If anything does become of it and a rematch is ordered i will put $1000 down that it will be nothing like the 1st fight.
Roy may still lose because he is past it,but not that badly.
How can you gauge anything from Rjj in the Green fight??It didnt even go for 2minutes..And leading up to the big shot he recieved there was no sign of him looking useless..His jab was still lighting fast and seem fit and mobile..
Punch resistance goes as you get older plain and simple...
Nothing is going to come of these accusations and Green will move on to fight Hopkins Down under for big Dollars whilst Rjj looks on..
I cant even rave on about Greeny as i always knew he has big punch on him inwhich was going to be needed to win the Rjj Bout...Thought he had a chance of delivering as i knew full and well about Rjj know diminished punch resistance abilities..Wraps or no wraps it was a good shot and Rjj just cant take them anymore.....
boxon123
12-24-2009, 06:08 PM
I see this guy forgot to mention the American fighters use a full Le roy bandage as a pad over the knuckles. a latex free bandage but packs up very tightly.[Only registered and activated users can see links] lol
IrnBruMan
12-25-2009, 09:45 PM
Don't feed the trolls
monaroCountry
12-26-2009, 12:17 AM
The fact is that Danny has worn that same wrap and the brown material that secures the wrap/glove against many if not all of his opponents. He wore the same thing against Mundine. Danny has also used that same wrap and material to hold the wrap in place against his last fight agaisnt Julio Cesar Dominguez, this fight was held in AMERICA. It was also inspected and passed by the boxing regulatory body in America.
Green doesnt seem to be hiding this fact or even aware of it. Both the bodies regulating boxing in America and Australia also seems to have passed it without much issues.
Everything indicates that Roy Jones Jr just cant accept his loss. He needs to move on now.
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flamengo
12-26-2009, 07:07 AM
As already mentioned, the tape in question looks no different to the tape used on footballers ankles, shoulders, knees etc. Having been a trainer at a footy club in the past, its laughable to suggest this particular type of tape has any properties that will harden it at all. Once moisture gets into it, it loses grip and turns soggy.... not unlike RJJ I guess.
LeonMcS
06-21-2010, 10:07 PM
Bump.
IrnBruMan
06-21-2010, 10:33 PM
Couldn't agree more. Obviously we can't see whats under it but that stuff is nothing different to the tape used by most fighters. Just standard strapping tape that can be bought in any chemist.
Thought I'd quote this comment on the wrap situ from widely respected boxing industry insider RAY KELLY :yep
Go an argue with him TeeCeeFaggot
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