Din Thomas vs Ricardo Mayorga

[CodyR]

whats everyones take on this matchup? These two are scheduled to fight in March of 2010 for the one and only Ricardo Mayorga's MMA debut. He reportedly has been training at AKA for a while so lets hope he's been taking this serious & make a fight out of it! I used to always pull against mayorga in boxing but in mma I think Imma support him! Mayorga is f'n crazy! :smoke:smoke:smoke:smoke:smoke:smoke:smoke:smoke

[theHawtness]

what weight will they fight at?

[CodyR]

not sure - here's one of the articles It doesnt have a weight
Does anybody know?????

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Former UFC lightweight Din Thomas will welcome former boxing champion Ricardo Mayorga to the world of mixed martial arts when the two clash at the upcoming third event from the Shine Fights promotion, which is expected to go down in March 2010 at a venue to be named.

MMAmania.com confirmed the match-up earlier today.

"Dinyero" was a top contender in the stacked UFC 155-pound division prior to back-to-back losses to Kenny Florian (because he blew out his knee during the fight) and Josh Neer. Following that, Thomas announced his desire to compete at 145 pounds.

He never got the chance.

Thomas was given his pink slip in May 2008 along with Travis Lutter, David Heath, Kalib Starnes, Joe Doerksen and John Halverson. Since then, he scored a submission win (triangle choke) over Dustin Pierkin at Headhunter Productions "The Patriot Act" back in February followed by a TKO victory (knee) over Gabe Lemley at "March Badness" just over a month later.



Affliction MMA quickly scooped him up for their August "Trilogy" event, but we all know how that turned out.

Still, the 32-fight veteran can get back into the headlines with a big win over the boxing bad boy. In addition to his run as WBA/WBC welterweight champion and WBC junior middleweight champion, the 28-7-1 pugilist was equally famous for his colorful personality.

We know he can punch -- and take a punch -- but will he have anything to offer Thomas on the ground? You can bet the Nicaraguan has no intentions of letting it get there.

Stay tuned to MMAmania.com for more updates to the still-developing Shine III fight card, which is expected to feature main card bouts pitting Hector Lombard versus Alexandre "Cacareco" Ferreira and Luiz Azeredo against Luiz "Buscape" Firmino.

[ozziebattler]

Mayorga is a straight up nut..For some reason i doubt he would have much Cash left and being the fighter he is will except any pay packet to get in a cage/ring etc.

[CodyR]

Din Thomas can fight too! It's almost as if they are throwing him to the wolves in his debut. But Mayorga is crazy and dumb enough not to be scared or respect din thomas so this one should be entertaining regardless of the result!

[Delroc]

el matador ko 1.

no really though din will probably take him down and sub him asap, but if he stands with mayorga hes a goner.

[Rattler]

el matador ko 1.

no really though din will probably take him down and sub him asap, but if he stands with mayorga hes a goner.

Mayorga has worse striking technique than Dean Lister.

[CodyR]

He's still more dangerous as far as striking goes

[IntentionalButt]

Mayorga has worse striking technique than Dean Lister.

Bologna. Bite your tongue (eh, finger).

The man's propensity for haymakers belies some fundamental punching prowess. See Forrest I. Or hell, many moments outboxing both Fernando and, yes, at times Shane.

He knows how to (and, demonstrably, physically can) throw every punch in the book properly. He just doesn't always. :yep

[scurlaruntings]

Din Thomas is a stud. If Mayorga is stupid enough Din wins this by whichever way he wants. I dont even give Mayorga a striking chance.

[Big T]

This is going to be a LONG ((Err Short night)) for Mayo. Din is no push over and a very good fighter. Will be shocked if Din dosn't make Mayo Tap.

[SouthpawSlayer]

mayorga is fucked i reckon, guy has zero discpiline lets hope he gives up the fags and booze at least 2 weeks before fight night

[sugarngold]

I have serious doubts that this fight will ever take place. Who is paying Mayorga for this? His MMA pay would have to be chicken feed compared to what he can earn fighting a nobody in boxing.

[BewareofDawg]

Din Thomas is a stud. If Mayorga is stupid enough Din wins this by whichever way he wants. I dont even give Mayorga a striking chance.
I agree. We'll see what happens if a punch lands clean on Mayorga with those small gloves on.

[Tuffnutz]

I agree. We'll see what happens if a punch lands clean on Mayorga with those small gloves on.
What about if the reverse happens? :!:
:scaredas:

[paloalto00]

Eh I'm not a big fan of Mayorga, but we'll see how he does.

[Jovanie]

What about if the reverse happens? :!:
:scaredas:


this is what I am thinking.... Mayorga with thhose tiny gloves has to have mad power and can decapitate a fighter... the problem is connecting in a sport where it's not only boxing.

I remember a while back when there was talk of Mayweather comming to mma, Din was one of the first guys to say on national tv that he would fight anyone of the boxing athletes.

[Jovanie]

actually he called out Mayweather and Cintron... I just found it

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[achillesthegreat]

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[paloalto00]

actually he called out Mayweather and Cintron... I just found it

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:-( Although Cintron is a lil bitch, he'll fuck that ass up.

[IntentionalButt]

OK...Thomas has copacetic stand-up by MMA standards, but those giving him the edge in that department over Mayorga need to put down the pipe.

Having said that, Mayo in the wide world of mixed martial arts could be a hard-punching fish out of water (or, to twist the metaphor a bit, in a large ocean full of aquatic life better-adapted to the depths). Clearly a learning - if not mastery - of the fundamentals of modern integrated MMA techniques can be achieved in a relatively short period of time, as evidenced by the relative success of other transplants from different contact sports. However, is 5 months enough time for someone who's never grappled to learn how to grapple? Never seen a submission to learn to defend against one? Never blocked a leg kick to learn to block one?

That interview with Mayorga above was posted on 9/23/09 (presumably it was fairly new, for the sake of argument we'll say it was recorded on or shortly before that date). He stated he had just begun training techniques other than boxing (ie jiu-jitsu, Muay Thai). Shine III is in early March.

That's just barely over 5 months of integrated MMA training. Is that enough? :think

[achillesthegreat]

I want to know what weight this will be at. Mayorga is currently fat and has now business above 147 in boxing so 145 in MMA. Will he make that weight though?

Mayorga has a good chin and good power but at this stage how much does he have left?

Technically, he is one of the worst fighters I've ever seen.

Following on from what Ibutt says is 5 months enough? What has he been doing? Will it all be sparwling, scramble, stuff the take down, be aware of the subs? Really does depend on what he intends to do with his MMA knowledge.

Who knows... but it'll be interesting to see. I do want to see some training vids.

[IntentionalButt]

Training vids would be nice.

I really hope he's fired up and taking this seriously and actually being a sponge with his MMA instructors, and not just "showing up" to cash a chump change check while he waits for the Don King bullshit to blow over...seeing him get embarrassed badly in a non-effort would be even sadder than seeing him give it his all and fall short - and would make a huge dent in my ability to continue supporting him as a fan.

If you're gonna do something, play it to the bone.

[Beebs]

Mayorga barely took the sport he loved and made a living out of seriously enough to remain a professional, 0% he makes any meaningful improvements outside of it.

Few leg kicks, takedown, game over.

[rekcutnevets]

Posted by Beebs
Mayorga barely took the sport he loved and made a living out of seriously enough to remain a professional...
No one gets to the level Mayorga was at without serious effort. Just being able to box for 10 rounds is a serious athletic accomplishment. I'll give you links to a couple of fighters with not so impressive records that are from the state in which I reside.
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The reason both of these fighters stick out in my mind is I witnessed a physical given to them for the same fight card. Both had a pulse of 48 per min. Both trained at least 5 days a week. Neither have accomplished near of what Mayorga has.

Mayorga not only exhibited the ability to go the distance, he was able to do it with victorious results against world class fighters. Mayorga defeated Forrest and Vargas over the course of 12 rounds. That is, of course, after he had annihilated "6 Heads" Lewis and Forrest.

Mayorga is rough, tough, and serious enough to have over a 1/2 hour of fight in him.
0% he makes any meaningful improvements outside of it.

I won't argue with that number.
Few leg kicks, takedown, game over.
A most likely outcome.

I feel that Mayorga gets sold too short in his field because of his promotional antics. Mayorga makes a great effort to be, and most always is, entertaining.

[Dynamite Kid]

:-( Although Cintron is a lil bitch, he'll fuck that ass up.

:blood

Din would wipe his ass with Cintron.

[IntentionalButt]

People really need to shake loose the mental image of Mayorga as the caricature that he seems to be typecast as. Go watch some of his fights again (or for the first time if you're one of those who just parrots what everyone else says with no firsthand experience).

The man clearly trained, and could clearly box. So he smoked some cigars and threw some haymakers. The last two sentences are not mutually exclusive. :roll:

[Nuke]

Maybe he is just waiting for Don King to release him, fight 1 or 2 MMA fights then go back to boxing under a different promoter.

[thejokerswild]

Mayorga ko andrew lewis.

I would love to see those kind of shots in mma.

[Beebs]

No one gets to the level Mayorga was at without serious effort. Just being able to box for 10 rounds is a serious athletic accomplishment. I'll give you links to a couple of fighters with not so impressive records that are from the state in which I reside.
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The reason both of these fighters stick out in my mind is I witnessed a physical given to them for the same fight card. Both had a pulse of 48 per min. Both trained at least 5 days a week. Neither have accomplished near of what Mayorga has.

Mayorga not only exhibited the ability to go the distance, he was able to do it with victorious results against world class fighters. Mayorga defeated Forrest and Vargas over the course of 12 rounds. That is, of course, after he had annihilated "6 Heads" Lewis and Forrest.

Mayorga is rough, tough, and serious enough to have over a 1/2 hour of fight in him.

I won't argue with that number.

A most likely outcome.

I feel that Mayorga gets sold too short in his field because of his promotional antics. Mayorga makes a great effort to be, and most always is, entertaining.


I'm not trying to say he lacked the disicpline to become a great fighter, he did very well for himself and was always in shape.

But in the last years of his career the effort to maintain that level and get the most out of himself just did not appear to be there.

[chuffy]

I have great respect for Mayorga, for everything he has achieved in Boxing, I always liked him and his style, great personality. In saying that, if this fight does indeed happen, I think he's way out of his depth. DT by sub. Of course Ricardo has great hands, but so did Art Jimmerson and recently, Rubin (Hollywood) Williams. MMA is whole different world. Time will tell, just my opinion.

[IntentionalButt]

I have great respect for Mayorga, for everything he has achieved in Boxing, I always liked him and his style, great personality. In saying that, if this fight does indeed happen, I think he's way out of his depth. DT by sub. Of course Ricardo has great hands, but so did Art Jimmerson and recently, Rubin (Hollywood) Williams. MMA is whole different world. Time will tell, just my opinion.

Point taken but not the best example there. :yep

Mayorga would knock seven shades of daylight out of Williams, even giving up every conceivable physical TOTT advantage.

[chuffy]

Point taken but not the best example there. :yep

Mayorga would knock seven shades of daylight out of Williams, even giving up every conceivable physical TOTT advantage.

You know what I meant IB. :D

[chuffy]

Point taken but not the best example there. :yep

Mayorga would knock seven shades of daylight out of Williams, even giving up every conceivable physical TOTT advantage.

IB, I wasn't trying to compare Mayorga with Williams or Jimmerson. Obviously he's light years ahead. That wasn't my intention...