View Full Version : could a young shane mosely at lightweight have pacquioed hatton?
faisal
12-28-2009, 12:23 PM
hypothetically could shane mosely of the late 90s (who was a lightweight) destroy hatton as brutally as pacquioe did earlier this year, i think shanes power wasnt as sharp in his earlier years at lightweight as it was when he moved up to 147, if mosely fought hatton i honestly think it would be a tough fight and could end up going to the cards, i'v recently watched many of mosely fights at 135 and it took him time to breakdown his opponet and he'd stop many of them in the mid-late rounds, i also noticed how strong he was i think he relied way to much on his physical ability earlier in his career, he had an excellent double jab but more often then not he'd abandon this and load up on power shots instead
TommyV
12-28-2009, 12:29 PM
Of course he could. It might be even worse. Shane was a beast at 135.
Xplosive
12-28-2009, 01:04 PM
Yes. Mosley would have raped Hatton.
Flea Man
12-28-2009, 01:08 PM
I personally feel from the footage I've watched (most of it) that Shane really peaked at Welter. Whilst very good at Lightweight, I see nothing there that really makes me go 'wow', I feel he got better as he moved up. It was like a prospect cleaning out a fairly average division really. Stick that Shane in with the top lightweights and he doesn't look as spectacular I reckon.
However; if the Shane that moves up to Welter gets grabbed and forced into a time machine, and can make 140 easily, he beats the shit outta' Hatton. Don't know if he 'Pacs' him, but to be honest if we're putting in the Hatton that fought Tszyu, Shane is going to be met with a degree of resilience and fighting spirit. Shane probably stops him between 5-8, difference between Hatton fighting Tszyu and fighting Shane is that this version of Shane can match him for strength. Couple that with all the other things he has that Hatton doesn't and Ricky's going down.
Personally, if we take a hypothetical Shane@140 I'd pick him to beat Tszyu as well.
Mr Butt
12-28-2009, 01:11 PM
mosely would win no doubt
Why discussing Mosley's power rather than Hatton's chin quality is beyond me.
zarman
12-28-2009, 02:24 PM
i know this isn't the question but i'd pick shane to beat pacman
China_hand_Joe
12-28-2009, 02:26 PM
Mosley could not do the same as Manny.
He is not a southpaw.
Kalasinn
12-28-2009, 02:27 PM
Hell yes, Hatton would be lucky to make it past round 3.
PowerPuncher
12-28-2009, 02:42 PM
Probably
Beeston Brawler
12-28-2009, 03:04 PM
Possibly.
I'm not so sure Hatton was right for the Pacquiao fight though, certainly mentally - I'd bet my house on Pac taking longer than 2 rounds with the Hatton that got in with Floyd.
Popkins
12-28-2009, 03:14 PM
Possibly.
I'm not so sure Hatton was right for the Pacquiao fight though, certainly mentally - I'd bet my house on Pac taking longer than 2 rounds with the Hatton that got in with Floyd.
You'd be living in a bus shelter then. No way is any version of Hatton taking those punches and surviving, and Hatton never had the defence to stop a rapid-fire southpaw exploding onto his chin.
In answer to the TS, yes I believe Mosley would have knocked Hatton out. Not as quickly as Pacquiao did because Shane was a more orthodox fighter, but he would have arrived at the same result eventually.
TommyV
12-28-2009, 03:16 PM
Are we talking about the '05 version of Hatton that fought Tszyu or the '09 version that fought Pacquiao here then? If it's the '09 version, Shane would absolutely murder him. If it's the '05 version, he'd still knock Hatton out but might take a while longer to set it up. But then again, so would Pacquiao if he fought that version.
faisal
12-28-2009, 04:58 PM
u know when u post a reply to a thread try and giving a bit of explanation not some 1 lined shit like ''oh well he was a big bad monster'' or ''shane would jail rape him''
Beau Geste
12-28-2009, 05:10 PM
hypothetically could shane mosely of the late 90s (who was a lightweight) destroy hatton as brutally as pacquioe did earlier this year, i think shanes power wasnt as sharp in his earlier years at lightweight as it was when he moved up to 147, if mosely fought hatton i honestly think it would be a tough fight and could end up going to the cards, i'v recently watched many of mosely fights at 135 and it took him time to breakdown his opponet and he'd stop many of them in the mid-late rounds, i also noticed how strong he was i think he relied way to much on his physical ability earlier in his career, he had an excellent double jab but more often then not he'd abandon this and load up on power shots instead
Yes. Hatton was not in Mosely's league.
BENNY BLANCO
12-28-2009, 08:12 PM
I personally feel from the footage I've watched (most of it) that Shane really peaked at Welter. Whilst very good at Lightweight, I see nothing there that really makes me go 'wow', I feel he got better as he moved up. It was like a prospect cleaning out a fairly average division really. Stick that Shane in with the top lightweights and he doesn't look as spectacular I reckon.
However; if the Shane that moves up to Welter gets grabbed and forced into a time machine, and can make 140 easily, he beats the shit outta' Hatton. Don't know if he 'Pacs' him, but to be honest if we're putting in the Hatton that fought Tszyu, Shane is going to be met with a degree of resilience and fighting spirit. Shane probably stops him between 5-8, difference between Hatton fighting Tszyu and fighting Shane is that this version of Shane can match him for strength. Couple that with all the other things he has that Hatton doesn't and Ricky's going down.
Personally, if we take a hypothetical Shane@140 I'd pick him to beat Tszyu as well. I have to agree with you here, Shane at lightweight is a head to head monster because of his size,reach, and speed but he was better when he first moved up to welterweight. If anyone wants to see a prime Shane Mosley at his finest, then watch his fights against Shannon Taylor, Antonio Diaz and yes even gatekeeper fighter Adrian Stone.
As for the thread topic, I don't think Shane would obliterate Hatton the same way Pac did because I don't think Hatton would be naive to attack Mosley with no regard for defense like he did against Pac. Basically Hatton won't underestimate Shane like he did Pac.
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