Julian Jackson vs. Felix "Tito" Trinidad @ 154

[itrymariti]

Two guys with dubious chins and stunning power. Who takes it? I fancy Jackson to be that bit quicker to the punch and get rid of Tito fairly early.

[TommyV]

Tito. Better stand-up boxing skills and the more likely to land the big punch. If he gets caught big, he might not get up or if he does, he might be be fully recoverd. But I fancy him to land the bigger punches earlier. One things for sure, no way this goes the distance.

[Frazier Hook]

I like Tito by KO. Both hit the deck but Trinidad's seals the deal with a KO that keeps Jackson down for the 10 count. I also think Tito was the much greater fighter......

[Vantage_West]

felix for me
just a better all-rounder might have a dodgy chin aswell but where as jackson wasnt able to get out of the way when he was gettign swarmed and was outboxable i think trinidad is able to land a left hook to the body then drop a left hand to the chin when julian doesnt see it and gets dropped to which trinidad just puts on the pressure and stopped on his feet.

[stevebhoy87]

I never really thought tito had a dodgy chin really, poor balance certainly but his chin was decent.

That said if jackson stated landing no doubt he would knock tito out. I see it as a shoot out, who would be the 1 to start landing the heavy artilery 1st, tito was a notourious slow starter whilst we know jackson could be deadly early so i would have to favour the hawk but i think he needs to do it early.

When tito gets up and running he would be to accurate and fast and has the better chance of getting to jackson but he would have a couple of rounds before this likely happened where he needs to get trinidad out of there.

[itrymariti]

I'm just thinking that Jackson's bread and butter was guys that would either allow him to push them back onto the ropes, or guys that would come onto him aggressively. It's almost like something goes off in his head when someone attacks: he instantly lashes out with a series of heavy shots. I just can't see Tito being able to deal with someone who just fires over the top of whatever he throws. I'm not saying Tito can't take Jackson out; he definitely can. I just see Jackson overwhelming him with his speed and strength whenever Tito tries to get off.

[frankenfrank]

without cheating (putting things under the gloves) i believe jackson stops him but not early.
remember that tito was knocked down not a few times but got up.

[itrymariti]

Tito. Better stand-up boxing skills and the more likely to land the big punch. If he gets caught big, he might not get up or if he does, he might be be fully recoverd. But I fancy him to land the bigger punches earlier. One things for sure, no way this goes the distance.

felix for me
just a better all-rounder might have a dodgy chin aswell but where as jackson wasnt able to get out of the way when he was gettign swarmed and was outboxable i think trinidad is able to land a left hook to the body then drop a left hand to the chin when julian doesnt see it and gets dropped to which trinidad just puts on the pressure and stopped on his feet.

I don't see how skills are really relevant here. We know that both guys were vulnerable to movers (Jackson particularly), but I don't see either of them turning this into a cagey boxing match. I think the most important factor would be who can land the hard shots first, and I see Jackson's speed and aggression delivering that.

[Sweet Pea]

Jackson would get the early KO the majority of the time in my opinion. A series of fights between the two is bound to have differing outcomes, but what it all comes down to for me is how they both started out. Jackson was always a quick starter, whereas Tito a lot of the time needed to get a feel for his opponents before he started to really let loose, and was often susceptible fo being knocked down in early rounds. I certainly don't think Tito holds any technical edges as has been suggested, in fact if I were to give an edge in that regard it would go to Jackson. Chins are about even as well, I just think Jackson's ability to get going earlier gives him the clear edge here. If Tito is getting dropped early by Jackson, he's either not getting up or getting finished shortly thereafter.

[laxpdx]

Julian Jackson by early to mid rounds KO. Simply a far more heavy-handed puncher.

[itrymariti]

Jackson would get the early KO the majority of the time in my opinion. A series of fights between the two is bound to have differing outcomes, but what it all comes down to for me is how they both started out. Jackson was always a quick starter, whereas Tito a lot of the time needed to get a feel for his opponents before he started to really let loose, and was often susceptible fo being knocked down in early rounds. I certainly don't think Tito holds any technical edges as has been suggested, in fact if I were to give an edge in that regard it would go to Jackson. Chins are about even as well, I just think Jackson's ability to get going earlier gives him the clear edge here. If Tito is getting dropped early by Jackson, he's either not getting up or getting finished shortly thereafter.

Nice. For the record, though, I'd say Jackson has a much weaker chin than Trinidad. I've been watching a lot of him lately and it's really startling how easily he gets hurt, often by fringe contenders and virtual club-fighters.

[Flea Man]

It took Tito a few rounds to get hold of another dangerous banger in Campas. Seeing that Tito was fairly hittable and 154 Jackson came out surging, I can't see Tito surviving.

By the same logic though, Tito comes out fast he probably gets to Jackson. It's a real 50-50 fight, I just feel Jackson would get there first.

[Mantequilla]

Most of that was when he was well past his prime though.I don't remember him bein hurt too many times, say up until the Graham fight, which was about the end of his prime.

[itrymariti]

Most of that was when he was well past his prime though.I don't remember him bein hurt too many times, say up until the Graham fight, which was about the end of his prime.

Norris, Tim Harris (who?), McCallum (obviously), Graham, Thomas Tate (who?) all had him badly hurt (or KO'd) at one stage or another. Obviously he was hurt more as he got older, but, like you say, he was post-prime. (Though actually I think his prime ended more or less when he moved up, even if he was more of a puncher.)

[PowerPuncher]

Jackson early-mid rounds KO in a backburner, Tito wasnt defensively good enough or had a great enough chin to avoid those fast accurate bombs that seemed to come out of nowhere. When Jackson lands his money shot his opponent was so often out before he hit the floor, I dont think Tito would fair any better. Imagine if Jackson was throwing those bombs Vargas was landing

[salty trunks]

I don't see how skills are really relevant here. We know that both guys were vulnerable to movers (Jackson particularly), but I don't see either of them turning this into a cagey boxing match. I think the most important factor would be who can land the hard shots first, and I see Jackson's speed and aggression delivering that.
Agree but pick the other guy.

I think Tito lands first and better and is smart enough to make Jackson lead right into his lefthook.

[Thread Stealer]

I'll say Trinidad suffers his usual 2nd round knockdown, but this time gets up on really wobbly legs and the refs stops it.

Julian Jackson's power was a whole other story than the guys Trinidad was usually getting dropped by.