Ufc 108

[scurlaruntings]

MAIN CARD


Rashad Evans vs. Thiago Silva
Paul Daley vs. Dustin Hazelett
Joe Lauzon vs. Sam Stout
Duane Ludwig vs. Jim Miller
Junior Dos Santos vs. Gilbert Yvel

PRELIMINARY CARD (Spike TV)


Martin Kampmann vs. Jacob Volkmann
Dan Lauzon vs. Cole Miller

PRELIMINARY CARD (Un-aired)


Steve Cantwell vs. Vladimir Matyushenko
Ryan Jensen vs. Mark Munoz
Jake Ellenberger vs. Mike Pyle
Rafaello Oliveira vs. John Gunderson


Stacked card people!

[achillesthegreat]

I'm hyped for this card now but it took me a while to get there.

Evans vs Silva has been promoted to main event. Remember it was supposed to be Silva vs Belfort then Nate vs Henderson but now this is the main event.

Daley strikes me as another sub standard Brit being promoted as something he is not. Like Hardy and even Bisping they are losers but hopefully they can improve enough to put their losses behind them.

Yvel is another replacement and not a huge fight but a good fight. Exciting match up. Not one of his wins has ever gone the distance.

Ultimately its a card full of exciting match ups between contenders but other than Rashad vs Silva (which was once an undercard fight) it hasn't really got the huge names to justify a PPV. A mainstream fan would need to be educated about all the fighters except the main event.

[jimmie]

The fights should be entertaining but I just wont pay for it ill go to a local bar.

[AJAX]

This has been the most injury riddled card in the history of the UFC. There is a few decent fights but i'm sure it will do low ppv numbers.

[Mikey11]

PPV numbers will be very low for this one, though Rashad v Silva should be a very exciting fight - both fighters with only 1 loss on there record and both to Machida I think this will be a very good fight.

[Mazallan]

I like Daley. He will never be great but he has it in him to pull off the odd surprise.

[SouthpawSlayer]

good fight but not that meaningful

[fatcity]

Sam Stout is always entertaining.Good card.

[Aussie_Al]

The fights should be entertaining but I just wont pay for it ill go to a local bar.

Yeah thats what I am thinking too - not worth me dropping the $$$

[thejokerswild]

Fairly standard card from a casual fan perspective. Im sure the experts know better so I'll be keeping an eye out.

I hope Rashad gets ktfo.

[LB3000]

Evans vs Silva has been promoted to main event. Remember it was supposed to be Silva vs Belfort then Nate vs Henderson but now this is the main event. You can add Lesnar vs Carwin to that list.

[AJAX]

The fight I want to see is Dos Santos vs Yvel. Dos has been stopping everyone so far and has looked good doing it.

[achillesthegreat]

You can add Lesnar vs Carwin to that list.

I've lost count of which fights have fallen through. I think each UFC card lined up has had numerous fallouts.

[One Punch KO]

You can see all the fights that have fallen through in this thread - UFC 108 is cursed. ([Only registered and activated users can see links])

I've never seen a card so plagued by injuries.

Even UFC 85 wasn't this bad.

[dublynflya]

I'm hyped for this card now but it took me a while to get there.

Evans vs Silva has been promoted to main event. Remember it was supposed to be Silva vs Belfort then Nate vs Henderson but now this is the main event.

Daley strikes me as another sub standard Brit being promoted as something he is not. Like Hardy and even Bisping they are losers but hopefully they can improve enough to put their losses behind them.

Yvel is another replacement and not a huge fight but a good fight. Exciting match up. Not one of his wins has ever gone the distance.

Ultimately its a card full of exciting match ups between contenders but other than Rashad vs Silva (which was once an undercard fight) it hasn't really got the huge names to justify a PPV. A mainstream fan would need to be educated about all the fighters except the main event.

Achilles mate your comments regarding Paul Daley are more than reasonable. He is a good, powerful striker (As you will already be aware) but he is vulnerable to submissions (And he's fighting a submissions expert in Hazelett!). As you rightly say Rogan and the rest of the UFC boys have this hype train full of coal and on greased tracks!! In fact when they were first referring to Daley, it was only by his nickname that I realised it was the same guy i've seen fight in Britain's "Cage Rage"!! He looked good against Kampmann and he definitely has a "Puncher's chance" in almost any fight, the thing is the top echelon fighters will be aware of his vulnerability to submissions and will act accordingly! He has also dropped a few decisions which does indicate that "Semtex" loses his explosiveness after round 1 (Forgive the terrible pun, but you know how it is with us Brits and our so-called "Humour":-)). I would like to see Daley fight Hardy and I would favour Daley in that match-up (Koscheck is right, Dan Hardy is considered by some to be the #1 contender? WTF!! Mind you, I rather enjoy Hardy's "Trash" and it was hilarious to watch him get under skin of Marcus Davies and his entire camp!!). Paul Daley aside (Who I will be cheering on!) I am looking forward to Saturday!

[scurlaruntings]

The fight I want to see is Dos Santos vs Yvel. Dos has been stopping everyone so far and has looked good doing it.
This is a very good fight in my eyes. Yvel has lost a step but he's a bonafide striker with VERY heavy hands and a massive heavy. Santos could have his hands full.

[AJAX]

This is a very good fight in my eyes. Yvel has lost a step but he's a bonafide striker with VERY heavy hands and a massive heavy. Santos could have his hands full.

He sure does, Dos has been winning with his standup so far but against Yvel that might not be the best idea. He has BJJ of course training with Nog we just havn't seen how good it is yet.

[Chileno606]

im excited about this card...looking forward to it

[Tko4]

This card could turn out to be really entertaining, but as far as meaningful fights, it's a complete dud. Dos Santos vs Yvel is probably the most interesting because it will be a good test for an up and comer. Other than that, we have the battle of, "Who of Lyoto Machida's Murder Victims is the Worst." What a horrible main event.

[Beebs]

The fights get canceled quicker than you can write them down.

Are they holding this event on an ancient indian burial ground?

[Rangersfan1982]

Who you picking to win on the main card?

[dublynflya]

The fights get canceled quicker than you can write them down.

Are they holding this event on an ancient indian burial ground?

:lol: You would think so. I'm sure I have read on ESB that Silva is suffering from some sort of knock/injury but the UFC have persuaded him to appear! If that is the case then i'm sure that the injury is not that severe and a lot of fighters do enter the octagon whilst carrying some sort of "Knock", but if it is the case that Silva is not 100% then Evans could be a good bet (I'll have to find out how the bookies have this match-up before I commit to anything. My guess is Evans will be the favourite. Around about the 8/15-4/9 mark).

[dublynflya]

The fight I want to see is Dos Santos vs Yvel. Dos has been stopping everyone so far and has looked good doing it.

:good the last time I saw Yvel, it was against Barnett. I think Dos Santos has his hands full!!

[chimba]

Damn, this is a watch in the bar UFC. They need to understand to put a champion in every show.

[AJAX]

Damn, this is a watch in the bar UFC. They need to understand to put a champion in every show.

Brilliant idea! Unfortunatly the timeline doesn't always allow that, not to mention GSP,Anderson and Brock all have/had injuries.

[Sloth]

MAIN CARD


Rashad Evans vs. Thiago Silva
Paul Daley vs. Dustin Hazelett
Joe Lauzon vs. Sam Stout
Duane Ludwig vs. Jim Miller
Junior Dos Santos vs. Gilbert Yvel
PRELIMINARY CARD (Spike TV)


Martin Kampmann vs. Jacob Volkmann
Dan Lauzon vs. Cole Miller
PRELIMINARY CARD (Un-aired)


Steve Cantwell vs. Vladimir Matyushenko
Ryan Jensen vs. Mark Munoz
Jake Ellenberger vs. Mike Pyle
Rafaello Oliveira vs. John Gunderson

Stacked card people!


Thiago Silva is a scary dude. It seems as if he enjoys hurting people.

[Chileno606]

The Dos Santos fight is very interesting...he seems like a beast...very violent puncher

[québecwarrior]

Hazelett vs Semtex is a cool fight
A great knock out or a great sub will happen

[Beebs]

Bit of an early stoppage maybe, but result was clear from the time that left landed.

[G.A.V.]

Early stoppage, but only way it was gonna go.

[Tko4]

If all the fights happen this fast, we're going to have to rewatch all the Spike prelims. And then we'll have to watch Goldberg and Rogan try to waste time like they were earlier.

[One Punch KO]

I'm glad most of this forum didn't fall for the OMFG YVEL IS A BEAST hype.

Dos Santos was always going to handle him in the stand up.

[chimba]

JDS. What did I tell you guys, Blackhouse will rule MMA

[One Punch KO]

I've got Jim Miller by submission here.

[Beebs]

Hate to see Bang lose, but Jim Miller is a very promising prospect.

[One Punch KO]

He certainly is.

I got a little worried there when he started trading with Ludwig, but once the fight hit the mat I knew he had won.

[G.A.V.]

What's with Rogan tonight? He can't string a sentence together. And UFC are getting worse and worse with their sponsorship.

Jim Miller was fucking awesome in that fight though.

[One Punch KO]

Rogan looked off his tits when he was talking to the camera with Mike Goldberg, giving everything the thousand yard stare.

...so now Jim will be fight former UFC fighter Duane Ludwig, who he beat down like a woman getting backhanded by her angry husband.

Wikipedia never lies.

[Beebs]

That was amazing, another inverted triangle; you see that in Judo all the time but not in MMA.

Miller is pretty impressive on the ground; ATT breeds damn good grapplers.

[G.A.V.]

I just came back upstairs to say that was the most awkward crowd spectator view I've ever seen in my life. Gomi really did not like the dickheads behind him.

and the only reply I can say to OPKO's quote is, I love wikipedia so much. I'm still laughing at wiki's description of Dana White's personal life because i'm highly immature.

>White and his wife of 13 years

lol

[One Punch KO]

That was a lovely finish from Cole Miller.

I'm picking Joe Lauzon by submission here.

[Tko4]

I have Joe by submission here as well. I see no possible way Stout can win this, unless Dan's loss got into Joe's head. But even then, Stout doesn't have the tools to get the job the done.

[Beebs]

Lauzon fighting smart, should have it won.

[Beebs]

Whoa, Stout gets the takedown, did not see that coming.

[Beebs]

Stout turning it on.

[Tko4]

Stout looks much stronger than I've seen him, and damn, he's looking the best he's ever been. He could pull of an upset here. Damn.

[Beebs]

Wow, Stout is very impressive.

[Tko4]

I think I'm going to be eating my words and pre-fight prediction. Stout is dominating Lauzon.

[Beebs]

Wow, he just big brother tossed Lauzon.

This will be a tough loss for Lauzon.

[Tko4]

Fight of the night so far. And Stout looked better than I've ever seen him...by a country mile.

[One Punch KO]

Great performance from Sam Stout there, the best I've seen from him.

Lauzon looked gassed the entire third round, Stout really wore him down.

[G.A.V.]

Stout did absolutely brilliant there. So much pressure, constantly. And I rate that as the 'almost' submission of the year 2010

[One Punch KO]

Strange scoring though - 30-26, 30-27, 30-27.

I had Lauzon winning the first round quite handily.

[G.A.V.]

Strange scoring though - 30-26, 30-27, 30-27.

I had Lauzon winning the first round quite handily.
I kinda didn't, tbh. I mean, I know Lauzon had the first minute and almost got him but the rest was all Stout, and he easily won the round back for me.

[Beebs]

Nice, I love that grip for a guillotine.

[G.A.V.]

Jesus, he looks absolutely terrible.

AND DAMN IT JACOB, WHY DID YOU HAVE TO LOSE?

Fucking idiot coming rushing in throwing bombs. You're a takedown man, way to lose your gameplan.

[One Punch KO]

That's what you call one punch knockout power.

[Bodysnatcher]

...

[Beebs]

McLovin was way out of his league standing with Daley.

[G.A.V.]

To quote that Rogan fella; "wow".

Main event it is then. To attack my accuracy, I went with Thiago. So Rashad by Submission in round 1 it is.

[Bodysnatcher]

...

[Tko4]

Not sure what Hazlett was doing there. He attempted one weird, rolling takedown and then went to trade with Daley. Worst gameplan ever :patsch

Good on Daley for apologizing for his post-fight antics.

[Addie]

That dude is in trouble when a fight goes to the ground, but if he lands with that left on anyone with those gloves, it's allll over.

[G.A.V.]

I'm looking forward to this so much.

Come on Thiago, lad. No mercy.

[One Punch KO]

I've got Rashad in this one, but I like Thiago Silva as well.

I'm not sure if Rashad will go back to his wrestling base though. Stand-up seems to be like crack to grapplers - once they get hooked there is no going back.

[Addie]

I used to hate Evans but...I think he's a nice guy. Goodluck to him.

[Beebs]

His entire gameplan seemed to consist of checking leg kicks, which he did do very well.

[Beebs]

I enjoy both fighters, I kind of hope Thiago wins though, I like his style a little better and Rashad has already had a title.

[Tko4]

I'm not a fan of what Thiago did while standing over Jardine, so I'm going to have to root for Rashad in this one.

[Beebs]

Rashad is clinical so far.

[Big T]

God..Joe is all over Evens Nuts. Good first round for both.

[Beebs]

I'm not a fan of what Thiago did while standing over Jardine, so I'm going to have to root for Rashad in this one.
Because Rashad has such a clean record when it comes to taunting?

[Beebs]

God..Joe is all over Evens Nuts. Good first round for both.

What? It was a clear as day round for Evans; Silva did well to survive, that doesn't make it a good round for him.

[Big T]

Evens with the take down..Silva Scrambles and gets back up..that is how the fight has been to the Mid 2nd round.

[Big T]

What? It was a clear as day round for Evans; Silva did well to survive, that doesn't make it a good round for him.
How is getting a guy down, but he gets right back up...that isn't a Clinic. A Clinic is take the guy down and pund him..he dosn't do much on the ground and Silva gets up....

[Big T]

Part of the fight is what you do with the guy when he is down..so tell me what Evens has done with him? NOTHING!

[Beebs]

Is there any doubt in your mind who won the first round? It was cleary Evans, end of discussion.

[Beebs]

Part of the fight is what you do with the guy when he is down..so tell me what Evens has done with him? NOTHING!

What offense did Thiago have? Rashad was landing more on the feet and taking him down and passing guard at will in the first.

[andyZOR]

how come these guys dont throw any kicks?

[andyZOR]

wow this guy had that black dude right there for the picking and he just showboated n shit... lame.

[Beebs]

Thiago putting it on him now.

[Beebs]

how come these guys dont throw any kicks?

Rashad doesn't have great kicks as a rule, Thiago is afraid of Rashad grabbing the leg and taking him down.

[Big T]

Thiago had him hurt and ready to go and let him up..ugh...what a dope.

[Tko4]

Thiago Silva is a douche. Less headslapping and more finishing next time, moron. I hate that kind of bravado in the cage.

[One Punch KO]

Deranged taunting by Thiago Silva at the end there. He looked like he was trying to power himself up in a computer game.

29-28 Rashad I think.

[Big T]

How boy....lay and pry....boy that was some CLinic.....good I can see why the fans boo. I am one that never looks to trash a fighter. Joe Hype on Evens was sick...and again..did nothing on the ground...so not a great win..but a good one...needs to learn how to pound on the ground.

[Totomabs]

wow this guy had that black dude right there for the picking and he just showboated n shit... lame.


obviously, he gassed out..:-(

[G.A.V.]

lolwut

[G.A.V.]

....

Eubank was better

[Delroc]

cigano is the future.

[Tko4]

Well, now that it's over, it's official. UFC 108 should have been free on Spike TV. Oh, wait, half the fights were...

[G.A.V.]

I enjoyed most of 108, I just don't want to be banned because it was so shit.

[fatcity]

Sammy Stout's fight stole the show.Well done Sammy.:thumbsup

[Thom]

Well, $50.00 isn't anything to me, so I'm not going to complain, but this definitely felt like a Spike card.

[Monoxide]

It was alright. The main event drug it down big time though

[chimba]

obviously, he gassed out..:-(

No He didnt. He had time to fuckin dance like a fool the least he could have done was put two punches together.

Silvas a meathead.

[Monoxide]

Probably rigged. Rampage and Rashad needed more hype :p

[chimba]

My Observations.

Joe Luazon is done. The guy just doesnt have what it takes to beat the contenders at 155, let alone a borderline guy Stout (although respect to Sam but LW is deep.

JDS is going to be a beast, he was a bit sloppy with Cop but the guy with his camp will get better.

My boy Munoz had a good win but hes far from being a wrecking machine. He seems to have what Vera lack, and that is put more than two strikes together.

This Ellenberger kid is dynamite

Kampmann, he wont go far, I used to think highly of him he throws nice straight punches but man Im very surprised how slow he is, thats why he loses exchanges with brawlers.

Daley, hes good but Id like to see more of him with someone who had half a brain to not stand with him. I understand Mclovin wanted to stand with him but not for the whole fuckin round:lol::patsch

this Miller kid, what a turd, yeah he wasnt hurt lol, yeah and he'll die in a cage. Corny. Wont go far.

Rashad, Im sorry hes good and I like him but his chin is very suspect.

The event itself wasnt worth $50. They need to reduce the damn price because impending doom is looming. And FFS why are they repeating Prelim bouts theyve already shown in Spike in the PPV??

[darkaz619]

yeah this PPV is not worth $50 maybe lower it to $25.

[Sammie]

And FFS why are they repeating Prelim bouts theyve already shown in Spike in the PPV??

I said that all damn night!!!

[Dave_j1985]

Not everybody gets Spike...

[AJAX]

My Observations.

Joe Luazon is done. The guy just doesnt have what it takes to beat the contenders at 155, let alone a borderline guy Stout (although respect to Sam but LW is deep.

JDS is going to be a beast, he was a bit sloppy with Cop but the guy with his camp will get better.

My boy Munoz had a good win but hes far from being a wrecking machine. He seems to have what Vera lack, and that is put more than two strikes together.

This Ellenberger kid is dynamite

Kampmann, he wont go far, I used to think highly of him he throws nice straight punches but man Im very surprised how slow he is, thats why he loses exchanges with brawlers.

Daley, hes good but Id like to see more of him with someone who had half a brain to not stand with him. I understand Mclovin wanted to stand with him but not for the whole fuckin round:lol::patsch

this Miller kid, what a turd, yeah he wasnt hurt lol, yeah and he'll die in a cage. Corny. Wont go far.

Rashad, Im sorry hes good and I like him but his chin is very suspect.

The event itself wasnt worth $50. They need to reduce the damn price because impending doom is looming. And FFS why are they repeating Prelim bouts theyve already shown in Spike in the PPV??

I agree about Kampmann, he always get's tagged in exchanges because he holds his head staright up to be hit.

I would like to see Daley fight someone like Kos next who will shoot for a takedown and has good wrestling.

[chimba]

I agree about Kampmann, he always get's tagged in exchanges because he holds his head staright up to be hit.

I would like to see Daley fight someone like Kos next who will shoot for a takedown and has good wrestling.

That too, and no head movement whatsoever. I mean he takes 3 punches to 1. I dont care how straight your punches look but if you cant avoid a few looping punches and gets beaten to the punch, youd be a gatekeeper.

Daley hes nice..Rogan called him the best striker in MMA lol. Hes good but he was a bit tentative fearing a takedown. He absolutely has no ground game thats why hes got over 10 defeats.

WTF is Hazelett doing? You stand up to set a takedown, his only chance. What did he do? He stood there throwing front kicks lol. He looks a bit slow anyway. Instead of sub of the night, he got koed by of the night.

[Delroc]

I said that all damn night!!!
i once knew a girl named sammi we made passionate love and she was wifey for 6 months then she ripped my heart out and stomped on it.

ah good times.

oh btw i have never seen a head bounce off the canvas so violently as Hazlets head did when daley GnP him at the end.

[Sammie]

i once knew a girl named sammi we made passionate love and she was wifey for 6 months then she ripped my heart out and stomped on it.

ah good times.

oh btw i have never seen a head bounce off the canvas so violently as Hazlets head did when daley GnP him at the end.

If you are serious, sorry she ripped your heart out. That was an epic bounce wasn't it?

[LB3000]

As soons as it was announced that Daley signed with the UFC, I said he would be a handful for anyone standing but his ground game is not very good though. I had a feeling Kampmann would trade with him and pay the price but I wasn't expecting Hazelett to do the same. Dana has said he will most likely fight Fitch or Koshceck, while Daley has said he would prefer a fight with Alves. With a Fitch vs Alves match being talked about, Daley will probably fight Koscheck next.

[G.A.V.]

Koscheck'll beat him, so will Fitch actually if they're not too moronic to trade. Saying that, Koscheck traded with Johnson and look what happened, so y'never know.

I'm still disappointed he's pulled out of 109, I was looking forward to that rematch for some stupid reason. The card looks terrible now.

[Beebs]

How boy....lay and pry....boy that was some CLinic.....good I can see why the fans boo. I am one that never looks to trash a fighter. Joe Hype on Evens was sick...and again..did nothing on the ground...so not a great win..but a good one...needs to learn how to pound on the ground.

You really do not understand the ground game; he completely had his way with him on the ground, pass guard, getting mount, taking the back at one point.