These Guys Will Outbox Pavlik!!!!!!

[perfume]

Congrats Kelly, I betted against you but u pulled through but one thing is for sure....

Kelly Pavlik can be out-box and if he fight Taylor again, he is going to outbox him (althought the fight will be close agin) because well of his explosiveness.

The thing about Pavlik is that he's a accumilation puncher so anyone thaT can avoid prolong damage will beat him.

I had Taylor up by the time of his TKO AND the fact that Taylor wasn't give a 8-count and Kelly was is still mind-boggling (more on that later).
Please keep Pavlik away from Abraham (who will outbox him), Hopkins (he would neutralized Pavlik power AND Bhop has a beard), Sturm (who would outbox him), Calgazhe (who would outbox and outwork him) and Kessler (who would MURDER HIM!!!!).....Taylor ( I see him winning the rematch).

Pavlik last 4 fight, his TKO have come when his opponent are against the ropes, the guys I mention above will stay away from the ropes and Pavlik hit them and they don't go anywhere.....he is done because they will outbox him.

PAvlik will only be able to beat the John Duddys of the world....and I've been saying all along that Andy Lee and Lorenzo pure boxers with speed and actual power as well will KO Pavlik.
Pavlik chin is suspect (he's been tagged by Berbuch, Zuniga, and McKart) for being taken down by journeymen so Lee and Lorenzo will rape him.
Pavlik has average long jab (which Taylor was slipping in the beginning)..and his right cross .
Taylor is an idiot because the one thing that he should have done is hold and survive but he didn't do it. I still would have given him a standing 8-count because ..
a) he's the champ, benefit of doubt
b) Pavlik got one.

If Pavlik get by Taylor in the rematch (which I don't think he will)...Arum will put him in with the John Duddy of the world.


BHop
Winky
Abraham
Taylor
Sturm
Calzaghe
KESSLER
Lee
Lorenzo

Those guys will outbox Pavlik!!!!

[Kolya]

Oh, what'd you know. Congratulations, Kelly, you got your first angry hater.

[El Bombasto]

Congrats Kelly, I betted against you but u pulled through but one thing is for sure....

Kelly Pavlik can be out-box and if he fight Taylor again, he is going to outbox him (althought the fight will be close agin) because well of his explosiveness.

The thing about Pavlik is that he's a accumilation puncher so anyone thaT can avoid prolong damage will beat him.

I had Taylor up by the time of his TKO AND the fact that Taylor wasn't give a 8-count and Kelly was is still mind-boggling (more on that later).
Please keep Pavlik away from Abraham (who will outbox him), Hopkins (he would neutralized Pavlik power AND Bhop has a beard), Sturm (who would outbox him), Calgazhe (who would outbox and outwork him) and Kessler (who would MURDER HIM!!!!).....Taylor ( I see him winning the rematch).

Pavlik last 4 fight, his TKO have come when his opponent are against the ropes, the guys I mention above will stay away from the ropes and Pavlik hit them and they don't go anywhere.....he is done because they will outbox him.

PAvlik will only be able to beat the John Duddys of the world....and I've been saying all along that Andy Lee and Lorenzo pure boxers with speed and actual power as well will KO Pavlik.
Pavlik chin is suspect (he's been tagged by Berbuch, Zuniga, and McKart) for being taken down by journeymen so Lee and Lorenzo will rape him.
Pavlik has average long jab (which Taylor was slipping in the beginning)..and his right cross .
Taylor is an idiot because the one thing that he should have done is hold and survive but he didn't do it. I still would have given him a standing 8-count because ..
a) he's the champ, benefit of doubt
b) Pavlik got one.

If Pavlik get by Taylor in the rematch (which I don't think he will)...Arum will put him in with the John Duddy of the world.


BHop
Winky
Abraham
Taylor
Sturm
Calzaghe
KESSLER
Lee
Lorenzo

Those guys will outbox Pavlik!!!!

Interesting analysis, but then again, you thought he was going to lose to Taylor

[perfume]

Yes I said Sturm and Taylor was winning that fight prior to the stoppage. Are u saying that Pavlik would outbox these guys....I think not!!!

[geppy]

Lol, a little bitter for betting against Pavlik? I bet you were so sure Taylor was going to beat Pavlik as well, just like this list will!

[Boyd]

so what. Taylor was outboxing him at times too. it worked out great for him.

[joe the great]

Congrats Kelly, I betted against you but u pulled through but one thing is for sure....

Kelly Pavlik can be out-box and if he fight Taylor again, he is going to outbox him (althought the fight will be close agin) because well of his explosiveness.

The thing about Pavlik is that he's a accumilation puncher so anyone thaT can avoid prolong damage will beat him.

I had Taylor up by the time of his TKO AND the fact that Taylor wasn't give a 8-count and Kelly was is still mind-boggling (more on that later).
Please keep Pavlik away from Abraham (who will outbox him), Hopkins (he would neutralized Pavlik power AND Bhop has a beard), Sturm (who would outbox him), Calgazhe (who would outbox and outwork him) and Kessler (who would MURDER HIM!!!!).....Taylor ( I see him winning the rematch).

Pavlik last 4 fight, his TKO have come when his opponent are against the ropes, the guys I mention above will stay away from the ropes and Pavlik hit them and they don't go anywhere.....he is done because they will outbox him.

PAvlik will only be able to beat the John Duddys of the world....and I've been saying all along that Andy Lee and Lorenzo pure boxers with speed and actual power as well will KO Pavlik.
Pavlik chin is suspect (he's been tagged by Berbuch, Zuniga, and McKart) for being taken down by journeymen so Lee and Lorenzo will rape him.
Pavlik has average long jab (which Taylor was slipping in the beginning)..and his right cross .
Taylor is an idiot because the one thing that he should have done is hold and survive but he didn't do it. I still would have given him a standing 8-count because ..
a) he's the champ, benefit of doubt
b) Pavlik got one.

If Pavlik get by Taylor in the rematch (which I don't think he will)...Arum will put him in with the John Duddy of the world.


BHop
Winky
Abraham
Taylor
Sturm
Calzaghe
KESSLER
Lee
Lorenzo

Those guys will outbox Pavlik!!!! I would favor CaLZ AND kESSLER, but not the other guys. Dawson may beat him but those are all bigger fighters. I would think he could beat Sturm, Abraham and Winky. Hopkins may win but it would have to be at 170 or above. Hey that would be pretty cool if they met at 170. Pavlik would have a pretty good shot.

[RDJ]

Pavlik fought a good fight but he is a limited guy. He won't be champion for long. I'm no Taylor fan btw, can't stand his personality.

[perfume]

[quote=joe the great] Dawson may beat him but those are all bigger fighters. I would think he could beat Sturm, Abraham and Winky. quote]


Why? Those guys have excellent defense and Pavlik has none...What happens when Pavlik hits these guys and they don't go anywhere...he's not going to outbox these guys.

[Club Fighter]

Congrats Kelly, I betted against you but u pulled through but one thing is for sure....

Kelly Pavlik can be out-box and if he fight Taylor again, he is going to outbox him (althought the fight will be close agin) because well of his explosiveness.

The thing about Pavlik is that he's a accumilation puncher so anyone thaT can avoid prolong damage will beat him.

I had Taylor up by the time of his TKO AND the fact that Taylor wasn't give a 8-count and Kelly was is still mind-boggling (more on that later).
Please keep Pavlik away from Abraham (who will outbox him), Hopkins (he would neutralized Pavlik power AND Bhop has a beard), Sturm (who would outbox him), Calgazhe (who would outbox and outwork him) and Kessler (who would MURDER HIM!!!!).....Taylor ( I see him winning the rematch).

Pavlik last 4 fight, his TKO have come when his opponent are against the ropes, the guys I mention above will stay away from the ropes and Pavlik hit them and they don't go anywhere.....he is done because they will outbox him.

PAvlik will only be able to beat the John Duddys of the world....and I've been saying all along that Andy Lee and Lorenzo pure boxers with speed and actual power as well will KO Pavlik.
Pavlik chin is suspect (he's been tagged by Berbuch, Zuniga, and McKart) for being taken down by journeymen so Lee and Lorenzo will rape him.
Pavlik has average long jab (which Taylor was slipping in the beginning)..and his right cross .
Taylor is an idiot because the one thing that he should have done is hold and survive but he didn't do it. I still would have given him a standing 8-count because ..
a) he's the champ, benefit of doubt
b) Pavlik got one.

If Pavlik get by Taylor in the rematch (which I don't think he will)...Arum will put him in with the John Duddy of the world.


BHop
Winky
Abraham
Taylor
Sturm
Calzaghe
KESSLER
Lee
Lorenzo

Those guys will outbox Pavlik!!!!

Hey, you forgot to mention Little Mac & Glass Joe.

[PolishPummler]

Andy Lee!!

Come on man im high on this prospect also but he has less than 15 fights under his belt.

[Orishaman]

Kolya ...I have to disagree with you....they might outbox him but the question is can they stand to his power, sooner of later the retlentless Pavlik could connect a powerful right and that be light outs....anyboxer can be outboxed...but they all can be KO also...never underestimate power

[Kolya]

Kolya ...I have to disagree with you....they might outbox him but the question is can they stand to his power, sooner of later the retlentless Pavlik could connect a powerful right and that be light outs....anyboxer can be outboxed...but they all can be KO also...never underestimate power


I didnt' say they would outbox him, bro. The thread started did. I honestly think Pavlik could break down and beat most those guys.

[Orishaman]

I didnt' say they would outbox him, bro. The thread started did. I honestly think Pavlik could break down and beat most those guys.

Chill out Bro..before I whooped your ass....:lol: :rofl ...

[Kolya]

Chill out Bro..before I whooped your ass....:lol: :rofl ...


:lol: You chill out man! :lol: How you been dude, what'd you think of Pavlik's future as champ?

[perfume]

Shut up man, you were doubting Pavlik before the fight and riding Taylor's dick worse than Lampley

You were probably like this before the Miranda fight, too


Eat hot nuts!!!!

This isn't about Taylor anymore, he lost and even if he beats Pavlik in the rematch, that 0 will never return. that was his bragging tool.

This is about guys who will BOX circles around Pavlik leaky defense and slow telegraphing shots.

Anyone with speed will give Pav prob and let not throw in there pure boxers. I do think the judges scorecards were rediculous huge but nevertheless Taylor was winning. Guys like Kessler, Lee ( who has a better resume then Pavlik after only 11 fights) and Dawson would as-rape him. Abraham and Sturm would just outbox him, Winky toys with him and Calz and Bhop embarrasses him.

Pavlik needs more now if he going to play with the elites, being a nice guy (which he is) isn't going to cut it!!!

Oh and let forget his horrible chin (see Taylor, Zunuga, Berbuch and McKart for more details)

[Mrvooh]

Chill out Bro..before I whooped your ass....:lol: :rofl ... :good

[brooklyn1550]

Eat hot nuts!!!!

This isn't about Taylor anymore, he lost and even if he beats Pavlik in the rematch, that 0 will never return. that was his bragging tool.

This is about guys who will BOX circles around Pavlik leaky defense and slow telegraphing shots.

Anyone with speed will give Pav prob and let not throw in there pure boxers. I do think the judges scorecards were rediculous huge but nevertheless Taylor was winning. Guys like Kessler, Lee ( who has a better resume then Pavlik after only 11 fights) and Dawson would as-rape him. Abraham and Sturm would just outbox him, Winky toys with him and Calz and Bhop embarrasses him.

Pavlik needs more now if he going to play with the elites, being a nice guy (which he is) isn't going to cut it!!!

Oh and let forget his horrible chin (see Taylor, Zunuga, Berbuch and McKart for more details)

Give me a break

[PolishPummler]

Eat hot nuts!!!!

This isn't about Taylor anymore, he lost and even if he beats Pavlik in the rematch, that 0 will never return. that was his bragging tool.

This is about guys who will BOX circles around Pavlik leaky defense and slow telegraphing shots.

Anyone with speed will give Pav prob and let not throw in there pure boxers. I do think the judges scorecards were rediculous huge but nevertheless Taylor was winning. Guys like Kessler, Lee ( who has a better resume then Pavlik after only 11 fights) and Dawson would as-rape him. Abraham and Sturm would just outbox him, Winky toys with him and Calz and Bhop embarrasses him.

Pavlik needs more now if he going to play with the elites, being a nice guy (which he is) isn't going to cut it!!!

Oh and let forget his horrible chin (see Taylor, Zunuga, Berbuch and McKart for more details)

Somebody strictly going off of BOXREC CLEARLY!

[Beatboxer]

Kessler would kill him
Calzaghe rape him
Brahmer would not need to be armed nor would he need a robbery

hes not that good i agree i expected Taylor to maim him

[Orishaman]

I think the future looks bright for Kelly...its all about the way the will manage him...will a threw him against WW next...nope...I'll give him an easy fight or two, and maybe late 2008 or mid 2009 then I take on WW...

[teetop]

[quote=joe the great] Dawson may beat him but those are all bigger fighters. I would think he could beat Sturm, Abraham and Winky. quote]


Why? Those guys have excellent defense and Pavlik has none...What happens when Pavlik hits these guys and they don't go anywhere...he's not going to outbox these guys.

The problem is dipshit when pavlik hits these guys, they will go somewhere. backwards or down. If castillejo(spl) can tko sturm
pavlik would ko sturm. And AA doesn't throw enough punches
for pavlik to worry. He does have the power to stop kelly though.

[the_what]

Calzaghe, Kessler and Abraham. Funny I see the Euro trio outboxing him.

[dumdane]

Kessler...........I do NOT see it

More likely......you haven't seen him (or not much of him).:think


Take it as acompliment. I trust you would be able to make better judgement if you were better informed:lol:

[Boinko]

Calzaghe, Kessler and Abraham. Funny I see the Euro trio outboxing him.

Calzaghe - very good chance of beating Kelly, although his style is often pretty reckless. But, he'd be the favourite.

Kessler - I think Pavlik's style would work very well for Kessler. If Taylor can hurt Kelly, Kessler definitely can. And Pavlik is there to be hit.

Abraham - I'd pick Pavlik. Too strong and aggresive for Arthur.

[perfume]

[quote=perfume]

The problem is dipshit when pavlik hits these guys, they will go somewhere. backwards or down. If castillejo(spl) can tko sturm
pavlik would ko sturm. And AA doesn't throw enough punches
for pavlik to worry. He does have the power to stop kelly though.


No they will not moron...how many times did Pavlik hit Jermain. Jermaine pension for moving backward didn't hurt this fight because he was fighting off the ropes.

You make it seem like Pavlik is indestructible....Pavlik will be outbox when he fight his next elite figther....John Duddy is not elite, Arum should be ashame of himself!!!!

[raiderjay]

[quote=teetop]


No they will not moron...how many times did Pavlik hit Jermain. Jermaine pension for moving backward didn't hurt this fight because he was fighting off the ropes.

You make it seem like Pavlik is indestructible....Pavlik will be outbox when he fight his next elite figther....John Duddy is not elite, Arum should be ashame of himself!!!!

But Andy Lee is elite????? WOW

[Brickhaus]

Pavlik whips Andy Lee's ass right now. He has like 10 pro fights, mostly against nobody special (and against a Carl Daniels who had lost his past 6 in a row, including to luminaries like Joe Spina and Dante Craig)). Lorenzo's a punk too who's no better than Duddy. Sturm would get killed by Pavlik as well in his current state.

In any case, by speaking with such hyperbole, you just come off looking like a jackass.

[iceman]

Kolya ...I have to disagree with you....they might outbox him but the question is can they stand to his power, sooner of later the retlentless Pavlik could connect a powerful right and that be light outs....anyboxer can be outboxed...but they all can be KO also...never underestimate power


Exactly,quite a few of the fighters mentioned would probably outscore Pavlik over the first few rounds as Pavlik is generally a slow starter but once he finds his range its lights out for his opponent.He has serious power with his overhand right and not too many could go the distance with Pavlik

[joe the great]

[quote=joe the great] Dawson may beat him but those are all bigger fighters. I would think he could beat Sturm, Abraham and Winky. quote]


Why? Those guys have excellent defense and Pavlik has none...What happens when Pavlik hits these guys and they don't go anywhere...he's not going to outbox these guys. I might see Winky fighting him to a draw. He would crush Sturms jaw IMO. Sturm is not as good or take as good of a punch as Taylor. Miranda rocked Abraham knocking him down twice and coming close to beating him. That'd be one hell of a fight but I think Pavlik is much better than you give him credit for. I think Pavlik KO's him late.
I am a huge Winky fan but I think it either goes Pavlik or a draw.

[Ambition_Def]

Eat hot nuts!!!!

This isn't about Taylor anymore, he lost and even if he beats Pavlik in the rematch, that 0 will never return. that was his bragging tool.

This is about guys who will BOX circles around Pavlik leaky defense and slow telegraphing shots.

Anyone with speed will give Pav prob and let not throw in there pure boxers. I do think the judges scorecards were rediculous huge but nevertheless Taylor was winning. Guys like Kessler, Lee ( who has a better resume then Pavlik after only 11 fights) and Dawson would as-rape him. Abraham and Sturm would just outbox him, Winky toys with him and Calz and Bhop embarrasses him.

Pavlik needs more now if he going to play with the elites, being a nice guy (which he is) isn't going to cut it!!!

Oh and let forget his horrible chin (see Taylor, Zunuga, Berbuch and McKart for more details)

What the fuck are you talking about? It's no wonder Mayweather was petrified of losing his 0 with fans like you. Bragging tool? Fuck :rofl

Go back to your cave dude. Seriously nobody wants to read this crap.

Oh and by the way Taylor was the first guy to ever drop Pavlik and actually hurt him. The others were flash knockdowns.

[Chiko_Tech]

Congrats Kelly, I betted against you but u pulled through but one thing is for sure....

Kelly Pavlik can be out-box and if he fight Taylor again, he is going to outbox him (althought the fight will be close agin) because well of his explosiveness.

The thing about Pavlik is that he's a accumilation puncher so anyone thaT can avoid prolong damage will beat him.

I had Taylor up by the time of his TKO AND the fact that Taylor wasn't give a 8-count and Kelly was is still mind-boggling (more on that later).
Please keep Pavlik away from Abraham (who will outbox him), Hopkins (he would neutralized Pavlik power AND Bhop has a beard), Sturm (who would outbox him), Calgazhe (who would outbox and outwork him) and Kessler (who would MURDER HIM!!!!).....Taylor ( I see him winning the rematch).

Pavlik last 4 fight, his TKO have come when his opponent are against the ropes, the guys I mention above will stay away from the ropes and Pavlik hit them and they don't go anywhere.....he is done because they will outbox him.

PAvlik will only be able to beat the John Duddys of the world....and I've been saying all along that Andy Lee and Lorenzo pure boxers with speed and actual power as well will KO Pavlik.
Pavlik chin is suspect (he's been tagged by Berbuch, Zuniga, and McKart) for being taken down by journeymen so Lee and Lorenzo will rape him.
Pavlik has average long jab (which Taylor was slipping in the beginning)..and his right cross .
Taylor is an idiot because the one thing that he should have done is hold and survive but he didn't do it. I still would have given him a standing 8-count because ..
a) he's the champ, benefit of doubt
b) Pavlik got one.

If Pavlik get by Taylor in the rematch (which I don't think he will)...Arum will put him in with the John Duddy of the world.



BHop
Winky
Abraham
Taylor
Sturm
Calzaghe
KESSLER
Lee
Lorenzo


Those guys will outbox Pavlik!!!!

BHop = yes he loses
Winky = maybe tough fight for both
Abraham = no way pavlick win this one
Taylor = need better defense the next time, and he will not get the confidence this time.
Sturm = he will get kfout
Calzaghe = yes
KESSLER = maybe more yes
Lee = wtf no
Lorenzo = no either to green

[boxbox]

all those who predicted Pavlik (including me) will lose, doesnt even have the credibility to predict right now as to who beats him or not.. Humility is good for you every now and then, so quit hatin the guy and give props. You dont want to eat sh*t for betting against somebody twice.

[Jersey Boxer]

BHop
Winky
Abraham
Taylor
Sturm
Calzaghe
KESSLER
Lee
Lorenzo

Those guys will outbox Pavlik!!!!

QUICK!!! someone give this list to ARUM so Pavlik can start picking them off one by one!!!:vonnecunt