ATG, Rank these 5 legends: Canzoneri, Saddler, Arguello, Chavez & Pacquiao

[asero]

here's mine

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Alexis Arguello
3. Sandy Saddler
4. Julio Cesar Chavez
5. Tony Canzoneri


all inside top 30

[China_hand_Joe]

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Arguello
3. Chavez
4. Sandy Saddler
5. Tony Canzoneri

Only Manny inside my top 30 P4P I'd imagine, Arguello comes close.

[bodhi]

1. Saddler
2. Pacquiao
3. Canzoneri
4. Arguello
5. Chavez

[timmers612]

1. Arguello
2. Chavez
3. Saddler
4. Pacquiao
5. Canzoneri

That top spot is a toughy, and packy and only move up.

[Sweet Pea]

1. Tony Canzoneri (pretty easy choice)
2. Sandy Saddler
3. Alexis Arguello (close call between #2 and #3, could switch up)
4. Julio Cesar Chavez
5. Manny Pacquiao (very skeptical of the guy right now)

[essexboy]

Sandy Saddler
Tony Canzoneri
Manny Pacquiao
Alexis Arguello
Julio Cesar Chavez

Three people have Canzoneri bottom of their list. :nut

[andrewcuff]

Don't know a lot about Saddler and Canzoneri, so I will rank the other three:

Chavez, Pacquaio, Arguello.

[smitty_son408]

here's mine

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Alexis Arguello
3. Sandy Saddler
4. Julio Cesar Chavez
5. Tony Canzoneri


all inside top 30

1. Canzoneri
2. Saddler
3. Arguello
4. Chavez
5. Pacquiao

[China_hand_Joe]

Pacquaio will lose to Mayweather, almost certainly.

But what has Saddler got over him.

Pacquaio has as good a resume, across more weights and is fromt he modern era. Both have losses and Pacquaio was kind of outboxed by JMM. But that doesn't matter he is up against Saddler not Calzaghe here.

Pacquaio has the greater list of achievements and is superior H2H.

In 15 years everyone will put Pacquaio above him, why can you people not just open your minds up now? There is no need for this waiting.

[essexboy]

Pacquaio will lose to Mayweather, almost certainly.

But what has Saddler got over him.

Pacquaio has as good a resume, across more weights and is fromt he modern era. Both have losses and Pacquaio was kind of outboxed by JMM. But that doesn't matter he is up against Saddler not Calzaghe here.

Pacquaio has the greater list of achievements and is superior H2H.

In 15 years everyone will put Pacquaio above him, why can you people not just open your minds up now? There is no need for this waiting.

The general public will in fifteen years, I however wont.

[China_hand_Joe]

The general public will in fifteen years, I however wont.

I can admire these principles somewhat at least.

My personal ambition is to rewrite history through aliases and a media career as a boxing commentator in America, with the consequences of convincing the public into accepting Joe Calzaghe as their GOAT, somewhat similar to Barry McGuigan on the topic of Calzaghe being the best ever British fighter.

But yes, fuck the public.

[smitty_son408]

Pacquaio will lose to Mayweather, almost certainly.

But what has Saddler got over him.

Pacquaio has as good a resume, across more weights and is fromt he modern era. Both have losses and Pacquaio was kind of outboxed by JMM. But that doesn't matter he is up against Saddler not Calzaghe here.

Pacquaio has the greater list of achievements and is superior H2H.

In 15 years everyone will put Pacquaio above him, why can you people not just open your minds up now? There is no need for this waiting.

This weight jumping argument is utter bullshit in my view. The guy has never been undisputed champion or even comprehensively dominated any division he has ever fought in. Hell in 4 of the classes he hasn't even fought what was considered the best fighter in the division. What Saddler did at feather trumps what Asero would call Pac's TIMELINESS:roll:

[China_hand_Joe]

People perhaps blow Saddler's achivements and abilites up a little, to help justify the folklore and legend of Willie Pep.

Robin Reid, the Olympic medal winning, underachieving super-talent, whom was occasionally brilliant is my Saddler.

But I am wrong of course.

[Rise Above]

1 Canzoneri
2 Saddler
3 Arguello
4 Chavez
5 Pacquaio

Easiest one of these type of threads yet.

[anarci]

Chavez
Pac
Sadler
Arguello
Canzoneri

[WhataRock]

Canzoneri is surely lock for number 1...Absolutely mind boggling record.

[bodhi]

But I am wrong of course.

You forgot the word "always" :lol:

[bodhi]

Chavez
Pac
Sadler
Arguello
Canzoneri

You know, I like most of your posts but this is the worst I have seen of you.

Please give me the argument to rank Chavez and Arguello above Canzoneri. I just can't see it.

[turpinr]

of the 5 i'd have canzoneri at the bottom.the other 4 i couldn't place

[The Morlocks]

People perhaps blow Saddler's achivements and abilites up a little, to help justify the folklore and legend of Willie Pep.

Robin Reid, the Olympic medal winning, underachieving super-talent, whom was occasionally brilliant is my Saddler.

But I am wrong of course.
I HOPE YOU'RE JOKING! BECAUSE that would be assinine.

[Sweet Pea]

So Canzoneri is either #1 or #5 on the majority of the lists. I wonder what that says.

[Flea Man]

Canzoneri has an immense resume and the small footage I've seen of him paints him to be a big puncher. Even though I don't have a wide knowledge of his style/repitoire(spelling?) I'd say he's a lock for the top 15 on resume alone.

2. Arguello
3. Chavez
4.Saddler
5. Pac

Saddler is low because whilst he, Chavez and Arguello are close, I haven't been that impressed with what I've seen of Saddler. Shouldn't really take points away for an ugly style, and he's still in my top 30.

I hope Pac shows himself to be as good as I believe him to be. Whilst I dislike Floyd as a person, I think Pac should takethe tests THEN beat him anyway. If he was really confident he would.

I think Floyd is the man with the history of avoiding really tough fights, however this is a different thread.

[timmers612]

So Canzoneri is either #1 or #5 on the majority of the lists. I wonder what that says.
Hmmm, maybe some of don't know as much about him as others?

[China_hand_Joe]

You know what they say about boxing knowledge though...

[ricardoparker93]

1. Canzoneri
2. Arguello
3. Pacquiao
4. Chavez
5. Saddler

All great fighters but i'm not deducting points from Pac for fighting in the modern era and this controversy atm. They're all very close together on my all time list actually.

[Popkins]

here's mine

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Alexis Arguello
3. Sandy Saddler
4. Julio Cesar Chavez
5. Tony Canzoneri


all inside top 30

1.Sandy Saddler
2.Tony Canzoneri
3.Alexis Arguello
4.Manny Pacquiao
5.Julio Cesar Chavez

(not much between #1 and #2, or between #4 and #5. The only placing I feel sure of is #3).

[Popkins]

5. Manny Pacquiao (very skeptical of the guy right now)

Do you mind if I ask why mate?