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choklab
01-02-2010, 11:16 AM
As a life long fan i wonder if anyone else has noticed in photos the smallness of billy conns gloves in his first Louis fight and the aparent slackness to the back of alis gloves in his final frazier fight?
im sure the story of billy colins is not unique, that glove filling can be removed and restitched. its an awful thing to suggest, i know but alis gloves look different to fraziers. it was verry hot in manila and i know everlast gloves had different fillling in them in years gone by and not foam or rubber filled as now. gloves do need breaking in but generaly new gloves are used in big fights. alis gloves apper to have a ripple across the back of the hand down to the wrist in photos. perhaps his gloves were simply and legally broke in by being exsesivly folded back and forth when empty? I would be intrested to know what anyone thinks?
also, billy conn. it was a great fight he had with louis but his gloves look tiny compared to louis's, a guy who couldnt hurt tony zale had louis all obver the place. he was giving away weight was it in the contract he have smaller gloves? i know 6oz were regulation then but his look like 4oz. what do you think?

FlatNose
01-02-2010, 11:25 AM
I never noticed Conn's gloves looking smaller than Louis's, and upon closer inspection, still don't.
In Manilla, both Ali and Fraziers gloves look strange, that I always noticed. It was brutally hot that night, the fighters perspiring profusely, I thought it was because the gloves were waterlogged.

The Morlocks
01-02-2010, 11:25 AM
as a life long fan i wonder if anyone else has noticed in photos the smallness of billy conns gloves in his first louis fight and the aparent slackness to the back of alis gloves in his final frazier fight?
Im sure the story of billy colins is not unique, that glove filling can be removed and restitched. Its an awful thing to suggest, i know but alis gloves look different to fraziers. It was verry hot in manila and i know everlast gloves had different fillling in them in years gone by and not foam or rubber filled as now. Gloves do need breaking in but generaly new gloves are used in big fights. Alis gloves apper to have a ripple across the back of the hand down to the wrist in photos. Perhaps his gloves were simply and legally broke in by being exsesivly folded back and forth when empty? I would be intrested to know what anyone thinks?
Also, billy conn. It was a great fight he had with louis but his gloves look tiny compared to louis's, a guy who couldnt hurt tony zale had louis all obver the place. He was giving away weight was it in the contract he have smaller gloves? I know 6oz were regulation then but his look like 4oz. What do you think?
it is a disgrace to boxing and the great frazier to even intimate that he cheated as resto did in manila.

choklab
01-02-2010, 11:34 AM
im just making an observation, and wondered what others think, im undecided myself. maybe there just water logged? even if it was not malicious and he was just looking to stall things angie dundee did interfere with alis gloves against cooper though.