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achillesthegreat
09-30-2007, 01:20 PM
Are you having a fucking laugh? After Taylor last punch (a weak instinctive jab) Pavlik threw 13 unanswered punches. He landed a devastating cross, left uppercut, right uppercut and left hook. Taylor was pinned in the corner and literally getting beaten down until he was left slumped on the floor.

The stoppage was fine.

MancMexican
09-30-2007, 01:21 PM
100% perfect stoppage.

Boinko
09-30-2007, 01:23 PM
Hah, they aren't serious. After every big fight, there's always guys who have to try and negate the victory.
Since Pavlik's win was so definitive, the only excuse that can be made in Taylor's defense is that the fight was stopped too soon. A bullshit excuse, mind you.

fightfanatic1
09-30-2007, 01:26 PM
i thought it was a good stoppage.

lozkin
09-30-2007, 01:27 PM
taylor should have gone down after the first couple of punches.....he would have had time to recouperate and could have fought on, but by staying on his feet he ended up giving the ref no choice

o_money
09-30-2007, 01:31 PM
taylor should have gone down after the first couple of punches.....he would have had time to recouperate and could have fought on, but by staying on his feet he ended up giving the ref no choice

Yeah and he pretty much gave himself no choice either cause by the time he hit the canvas he was beaten beyond recovery.

Its funny cause kelly almost did the samething in the second. He stayed up too long and then got up way too quick and was lucky to make it out of the round.

jonesjrp4p1
09-30-2007, 01:33 PM
it was a good stoppage to keep him safe.....but i still think he should of given the "champ" a chance to get the count to see how he got up.....i still think it would of ended quickly after though

Irländsk
09-30-2007, 01:36 PM
Yeah and he pretty much gave himself no choice either cause by the time he hit the canvas he was beaten beyond recovery.

Its funny cause kelly almost did the samething in the second. He stayed up too long and then got up way too quick and was lucky to make it out of the round.Exactly, when Pavlik was getting tagged in Rd. 2 I was yelling for him to take a knee before he got battered senseless, I thought it was too late after those last three he took from JT, couldn't believe he made it out of the round, he is a seriously tough cunt Pavlik is. JT also fought a brave fight, I give him a lot of credit as well. It was a great match.

Mendoza
09-30-2007, 02:11 PM
Are you having a fucking laugh? After Taylor last punch (a weak instinctive jab) Pavlik threw 13 unanswered punches. He landed a devastating cross, left uppercut, right uppercut and left hook. Taylor was pinned in the corner and literally getting beaten down until he was left slumped on the floor.

The stoppage was fine.

I think most people understand that Taylor was not getting up. However since he was already down, why waive off the fight right then and there? Give Taylor a chance to beat the count. Odds are he won't and gets counted out. If Taylor beat the count and gets up on spaghetti legs, the fight would be waived off. Maybe there s a 5% chance he gets up and makes it out of the round.


My beef is Taylor did not have a chance to beat the count. Fighters who are not in need of immediate medical attention should get a chance to beat the count….especially in a close title match.

Props to Pavlik for a great effort.

Asterion
09-30-2007, 02:14 PM
The stoppage was perfect. But some people that say Taylor sucks and is a fraud, that don't show respect, piss me off.

Black Eyes To You
09-30-2007, 02:17 PM
Taylor didn't bitch one bit about the stoppage. That in itself is enough for me.

Boinko
09-30-2007, 02:18 PM
The stoppage was perfect. But some people that say Taylor sucks and is a fraud, that don't show respect, piss me off.

If Taylor did suck and was a fraud, then he never would have hurt a tough middleweight like Pavlik like he did in round 2.

He may not have been the best fighter last night, but he looked pretty good at times. But, it's all for not as Kelly sealed the deal in round 7!

PeterNielsen70
09-30-2007, 02:18 PM
Taylor needed help getting on his feet 30-40 sec. after the knock down. Watch it here for yourself:

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mike464
09-30-2007, 02:23 PM
Taylor didn't have a chance to beat the count because he didn't go down until after Smogewr stopped the fight. As for as Smoger was concerned, Taylor was stuck in the corner taking a bad beating.

box03
09-30-2007, 02:26 PM
best middlewight fight I seen in a long time, great stoppage Taylor was done that was plain to see.

MrStayman
09-30-2007, 02:27 PM
It looked suspect until you pay attention to the replay in slow motion. I can understand why someone could call it a bad stoppage. My dad said it, and he's been watching boxing for 40 years.

If you pay attention to the replay, looking at taylors head, you can tell it was a perfect stoppage though since Taylor was literally unconscious.

achillesthegreat
09-30-2007, 02:54 PM
I think most people understand that Taylor was not getting up. However since he was already down, why waive off the fight right then and there? Give Taylor a chance to beat the count. Odds are he won't and gets counted out. If Taylor beat the count and gets up on spaghetti legs, the fight would be waived off. Maybe there s a 5% chance he gets up and makes it out of the round.


My beef is Taylor did not have a chance to beat the count. Fighters who are not in need of immediate medical attention should get a chance to beat the count….especially in a close title match.

Props to Pavlik for a great effort.
...because Taylors body had shut down. His brain had shut off. It was his body protecting him. Like when Jones went down v Johnson or Castillo got stopped v Corrales. No count needed, Smoger saw JTs body shut down.

Mendoza
09-30-2007, 04:06 PM
...because Taylors body had shut down. His brain had shut off. It was his body protecting him. Like when Jones went down v Johnson or Castillo got stopped v Corrales. No count needed, Smoger saw JTs body shut down.

I have seen thousands of boxing fights. Sometimes a guy who looks out comes too in the next few seconds. A count in Taylor vs Pavlik would have been better than the imeadiate stoppage of a downed fighter. What’s the danger in counting a fighter who’s already down? I see none unless the downed fighter needs medical attention ASAP, which in this case Taylor did not.

It’s a minor point. I’m pretty sure Taylor was done for, but without a count we can’t say for sure.

Jersey Boxer
09-30-2007, 04:10 PM
Did u guys listen to what Taylor said when he was still down on the canvas, he said that he got knocked out...that boy was out that's why his cornerman was smacking him to get hit to come to...Taylor was done...

achillesthegreat
09-30-2007, 04:31 PM
I have seen thousands of boxing fights. Sometimes a guy who looks out comes too in the next few seconds. A count in Taylor vs Pavlik would have been better than the imeadiate stoppage of a downed fighter. What’s the danger in counting a fighter who’s already down? I see none unless the downed fighter needs medical attention ASAP, which in this case Taylor did not.

It’s a minor point. I’m pretty sure Taylor was done for, but without a count we can’t say for sure.
His body shut off. Why do you count someone out when their body has shut down? Smoger would look stupid counting out someone who is OUT.