Choc Would Have Made 154

[RayKelly]

Hi guys,

As much as it's been great reading the posts about will he or won't he make weight, I have been working with both fighters in the lead up to this fight and Choc would have made 154 easily. So you can rule that out of any theories in regard to the title not going ahead.

Ray

[flamengo]

bullshit...

you just want attention.

[pecks]

:lol: I bet Ash and Ray Kelly have been doing a bit of pm'ing today. :yep

[LeonMcS]

After spooning last night.

[Marcus]

Hi guys,

As much as it's been great reading the posts about will he or won't he make weight, I have been working with both fighters in the lead up to this fight and Choc would have made 154 easily. So you can rule that out of any theories in regard to the title not going ahead.

Ray

nuthugger :deal

[flamengo]

Seriously though Ray, can you enlighten us to his weight as of yesterday??

[pecks]

Seriously though Ray, can you enlighten us to his weight as of yesterday??
Never trust a guy who uses his real name on a forum. Phil Austin is proof of that. :yep

[ashley]

Hold the f@#%## phone....in light of this new evidence I should be exonerated :yep:deal

[pecks]

Hold the f@#%## phone....in light of this new evidence I should be exonerated :yep:deal
New evidence?!?!
It was given to you via a Ray Kelly pm just moments before the thread ya silly tit.

You're gunna go down Ash, and thats all there is to it. :deal No fucking newb is gunna save your bet welching arse.

[RayKelly]

Hey guys,

It would be unprofessional of me to discuss any details of either fighter on the forum. But I will say that there was no issue and that i could have had him make weight today if need be.

[RayKelly]

No fucking newb is gunna save your bet welching arse.
I've been a member of this site for 18 months. How long does it take to move from newb status :lol:

I'm also a bunnies fan so cut me some slack! You of all people should know the last 20 years have been hard

[flamengo]

Don't doubt you Ray. Just bloody ludicrous that Khoder would get in the way of Mundine being able to take the IBO crown at jM/W. Mundine's strength would not be an issue under your training/dietry regimen, therefore appointed officials in Khoders best interest remain far toooooooo much extra.

With both fighters being helped by you, this could have become a very enjoyable bout to watch.

Whats happening now?? Catch weight?

[pecks]

I've been a member of this site for 18 months. How long does it take to move from newb status :lol:

I'm also a bunnies fan so cut me some slack! You of all people should know the last 20 years have been hardI retract my previous posts.

In fact, after further thought...I think we should let Ash off on this.

[ashley]

Hey guys,

It would be unprofessional of me to discuss any details of either fighter on the forum. But I will say that there was no issue and that i could have had him make weight today if need be.


Maybe the fight still goes ahead at 154 with or without the IBO title :think

[ashley]

I retract my previous posts.

In fact, after further thought...I think we should let Ash off on this.

What he said :deal

[flamengo]

No fucking way.

[Marcus]

Don't doubt you Ray. Just bloody ludicrous that Khoder would get in the way of Mundine being able to take the IBO crown at jM/W. Mundine's strength would not be an issue under your training/dietry regimen, therefore appointed officials in Khoders best interest remain far toooooooo much extra.

With both fighters being helped by you, this could have become a very enjoyable bout to watch.

Whats happening now?? Catch weight?


I think what Fanny is trying to say here is...

Can i tongue your ass after sucking your dick?

[flamengo]

I think what Fanny is trying to say here is...

Can i tongue your ass after sucking your dick?

Tasmanians have a strange way of 'reading between the lines'.

We're not even related!!!!

Thats called CHEATING in Tassie. :D

[shanemfr]

Making weight and then fighting after it for 12 rounds is a different ball game.

[flamengo]

Making weight and then fighting after it for 12 rounds is a different ball game.

Like cousin Ray said, Mundine is at weight now. Another week to condition and strengthen. He'd do 12 rounds easily.

[teke]

I too have been told from another source that Mundine would easily make weight. The fight will still probably go ahead at 154.

[perfect jet]

Hey guys,

It would be unprofessional of me to discuss any details of either fighter on the forum. But I will say that there was no issue and that i could have had him make weight today if need be.

Not doubting you but that's hard to believe.

So even with no belt on the line, you are saying that Mundine/Medley will still go ahead at 154?

No way Mundine comes in that light for no belt.

[flamengo]

Not doubting you but that's hard to believe.

So even with no belt on the line, you are saying that Mundine/Medley will still go ahead at 154?

No way Mundine comes in that light for no belt.


Jet.. Take it as gospel.

I just wonder how Marcus can trun your words intoo somekind of Tassie sex party.

[kel]

Hey guys,

It would be unprofessional of me to discuss any details of either fighter on the forum. But I will say that there was no issue and that i could have had him make weight today if need be.


Ray i hope you're not suggesting the print media in Australia were telling fibs saying Mundine needed to lose another 5kgs only days ago :lol:

[raff]

well, if weight is not an issue, then he should be proffesional and fight at the agreed weight.

[raff]

i jujst realised my status changed to gatekeeper.

[perfect jet]

Jet.. Take it as gospel.

I just wonder how Marcus can trun your words intoo somekind of Tassie sex party.


He only ever made 160 for title fights. All his other fights at middle, he came in way over.

I can't see him hooking up to an iv drip for a non title fight mate.

[ashley]

Ray i hope you're not suggesting the print media in Australia were telling fibs saying Mundine needed to lose another 5kgs only days ago :lol:

When you say print media....you dont mean that news story from AMH on the chocolates left outside Mundines door do you :hey

You may need to look at who AMH actually is :rofl

[Contendo]

Hey guys,

It would be unprofessional of me to discuss any details of either fighter on the forum. But I will say that there was no issue and that i could have had him make weight today if need be.


Why start the thread then???? Seems contradictory???

[crash]

No way hell come in now at 154,more like 165,weak as.

[RayKelly]

Why start the thread then???? Seems contradictory???
I haven't discussed any details. I'm happy to delete the thread, I just thought that there'd be people on on here that would like some insight into the weight situation

[RayKelly]

Making weight and then fighting after it for 12 rounds is a different ball game.
I help fighters make weight all the time. There would be no problem

[RayKelly]

Not doubting you but that's hard to believe.

So even with no belt on the line, you are saying that Mundine/Medley will still go ahead at 154?

No way Mundine comes in that light for no belt.

Mate, I've heard nothing from either camp to say the weight is different, but if it's not for the title you wouldn't imagine anyone would bypass fighting at a heavier weight if that is what they are used to. Once again though,I have heard nothing to say the weight has changed

[ashley]

Mate, I've heard nothing from either camp to say the weight is different, but if it's not for the title you wouldn't imagine anyone would bypass fighting at a heavier weight if that is what they are used to. Once again though,I have heard nothing to say the weight has changed


Half of Aussie ESB just shit themselves at this post :lol:

Especially Marcus, hmmm, pecks and sox :yep

[perfect jet]

Mate, I've heard nothing from either camp to say the weight is different, but if it's not for the title you wouldn't imagine anyone would bypass fighting at a heavier weight if that is what they are used to. Once again though,I have heard nothing to say the weight has changed

Well, it's pretty safe to say Medley will have no problem keeping the fight at jnr middle, belt or no belt. He'd want Mundine as light as he can get him.

If Mundine could have made 154 yesterday like you said, then no reason why he can't make it ten days later. Plus, his latest rant is about making history and winning a belt at his new weight.

[ashley]

Well, it's pretty safe to say Medley will have no problem keeping the fight at jnr middle, belt or no belt. He'd want Mundine as light as he can get him.

If Mundine could have made 154 yesterday like you said, then no reason why he can't make it ten days later. Plus, his latest rant is about making history and winning a belt at his new weight.

Thats why I think its not over yet....I think Khoder will see that the IBO wont bend so he will kiss and makeup in a day or 2

[Contendo]

Thats why I think its not over yet....I think Khoder will see that the IBO wont bend so he will kiss and makeup in a day or 2

What are you saying Ash, this is all to help promote a fight that needs all the help in the world to promote because of say, a 'lack of credability' issue??

I would have never thought such antics would be in Khoder's nature... :shock:

[ashley]

What are you saying Ash, this is all to help promote a fight that needs all the help in the world to promote because of say, a 'lack of credability' issue??

I would have never thought such antics would be in Khoder's nature... :shock:

No I'm not saying anything about promotion.......what I am saying is Khoder is trying it on and he will see the IBO wont cop it and he will agree and get the fight going.

No point in Mundine coming this far and not fight for the title :deal

[goodnight]

If Mundine could have made 154 yesterday like you said, then no reason why he can't make it ten days later. Plus, his latest rant is about making history and winning a belt at his new weight.

I'd say he would have been at weight when the cassidy story came out in the paper. Did they weight him then to see what he was actually at. The mundine circus trying to hype up some interest in the fight.

[Contendo]

No I'm not saying anything about promotion.......what I am saying is Khoder is trying it on and he will see the IBO wont cop it and he will agree and get the fight going.

No point in Mundine coming this far and not fight for the title :deal


Ash, your two best mates have never in their whole time relied on positive promotion of boxing as a sport, they have always relied on the 'please hate me' approach, hence this is just another avenue to create tension and as such talk/promotion for the fight.

C'mon Ash, your their PR man, you know the inner workings...

[sallywinder]

Hey guys,

It would be unprofessional of me to discuss any details of either fighter on the forum. But I will say that there was no issue and that i could have had him make weight today if need be.

yeah...you could have pulled your head from his ass...nuthugger. :-(

[fast hands]

Well, it's pretty safe to say Medley will have no problem keeping the fight at jnr middle, belt or no belt. He'd want Mundine as light as he can get him.

If Mundine could have made 154 yesterday like you said, then no reason why he can't make it ten days later. Plus, his latest rant is about making history and winning a belt at his new weight.


If I were Medley and the fight goes ahead as a non title bout I'd be insisting
on a penalty clause [ say $ 5000 ] if The Pioneer can't make weight.
Otherwise no fight . Take it or leave it.

But Ashley is probably right. It'll be for the title otherwise it's a lemon
on PPV .

[suicide booth]

If he could have made 154 easy I expect that he will still come in at 154? The IBO withdrawing doesnt change the fact that this should still be a junior middleweight fight.

[ashley]

If he could have made 154 easy I expect that he will still come in at 154? The IBO withdrawing doesnt change the fact that this should still be a junior middleweight fight.

I dont think the IBO have gone....its up to Khoner to stick by the IBO rules to get the fight approved....at this stage its not on but If Khoder came back Monday and agreed one would think its back on again.

[braden]

i heard that the WBA might be coming to the table with the interim middleweight title for this fight.

[flamengo]

Very interesting. That would be a bullshit story to inspire the IBO to sanction it at Khoders terms.

[fast hands]

If he could have made 154 easy I expect that he will still come in at 154? The IBO withdrawing doesnt change the fact that this should still be a junior middleweight fight.


I'd still want a penalty clause . This mob are as cunning as a shit house rat.

[shanemfr]

Is Ray one of the latest Mundine yes men.

[flamengo]

Is Ray one of the latest Mundine yes men.


Ray was looking after both fighters. Impartial dont you think?

[Francis75]

RAYKELLY - please inform us all exactly what your role is with Mundine and Medley to know this information. It seems rather strange to be employed by both fighters to help each of them prepare to fight each other don't you think or is what you say just BS.
Also isn't it very very unusual for a pro boxer like Mundine to have been able to "easily" make 154 yesterday as you say when the fight isn't until the 11th when his true natural fighting weight is 168. We all know that Mundine hasn't been the same since dropping down from 168.
Ray if Mundine can make 154 so comfortably as your expertise confirms then we should all see him "comfortably" make 154 for the contracted fight against Medley should we not ? Of course he bloody well won't.He probably won't even make 160 for the fight.

[ashley]

i heard that the WBA might be coming to the table with the interim middleweight title for this fight.

At 154 Dan Dawson is rated number 2....number 1 is vacant :D

[Sox]

RAYKELLY - please inform us all exactly what your role is with Mundine and Medley to know this information. It seems rather strange to be employed by both fighters to help each of them prepare to fight each other don't you think or is what you say just BS.
Also isn't it very very unusual for a pro boxer like Mundine to have been able to "easily" make 154 yesterday as you say when the fight isn't until the 11th when his true natural fighting weight is 168. We all know that Mundine hasn't been the same since dropping down from 168.
Ray if Mundine can make 154 so comfortably as your expertise confirms then we should all see him "comfortably" make 154 for the contracted fight against Medley should we not ? Of course he bloody well won't.He probably won't even make 160 for the fight.
Tend to agree, this whole thread smells of bullshit. :bart
Mandy has barely made middle weight in the past, and it took him 3 fights and more than 6 months.
His last fight he didn't even bother because it clearly isn't easily achieved.

Makes you wonder then how he has allegedly got to Junior middle so easily. :think

I stand by my bet and say that Mandy can not and will not make 154.

[ashley]

Tend to agree, this whole thread smells of bullshit. :bart
Mandy has barely made middle weight in the past, and it took him 3 fights and more than 6 months.
His last fight he didn't even bother because it clearly isn't easily achieved.

Makes you wonder then how he has allegedly got to Junior middle so easily. :think

I stand by my bet and say that Mandy can not and will not make 154.

Lenny Zappa is one of my favourite fighters.....Ray did some great work with him and got him down another division and hes fitter and stronger.

Why is it so hard to think that Mundine wont get value out of Ray as well :hey

[sallywinder]

fact. mundine has piles from straining to shit, from the apple juice an laxatives he was using to make the weight. khoder sabotaged any hope that the fight would go ahead because mundine is sick, weak, and was afraid of defeat.

they are the facts ashley. your hero has piles. go and suck on them you fool.

[ashley]

fact. mundine has piles from straining to shit, from the apple juice an laxatives he was using to make the weight. khoder sabotaged any hope that the fight would go ahead because mundine is sick, weak, and was afraid of defeat.

they are the facts ashley. your hero has piles. go and suck on them you fool.

:lol:

[sallywinder]

fact. mundine has piles from straining to shit, from the apple juice an laxatives he was using to make the weight. khoder sabotaged any hope that the fight would go ahead because mundine is sick, weak, and was afraid of defeat.

they are the facts ashley. your hero has piles. go and suck on them you fool.
:deal

[Sox]

Lenny Zappa is one of my favourite fighters.....Ray did some great work with him and got him down another division and hes fitter and stronger.
Bullshit, Lennys weight throughout his career has remained fairly constant except for 3 fights at over 140. His last fight is the same weight as his first fight with 3 years separating them.

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Why is it so hard to think that Mundine wont get value out of Ray as well :heyBecause he struggled to make 160.

The writing's on the wall Ash, give it up. :lol:

[sallywinder]

rays a nuthugger...fuck anything he says.

[app80]

Hi guys,

As much as it's been great reading the posts about will he or won't he make weight, I have been working with both fighters in the lead up to this fight and Choc would have made 154 easily. So you can rule that out of any theories in regard to the title not going ahead.

Ray

Can I get my money back seeing as it's not a title fight?

[sallywinder]

ray kelly has ZERO credibility.

[ashley]

ray kelly has ZERO credibility.


Sally, guys like Ray who are working one on one with over 25 pro fighters have got credibility....they are working day to day in the industry.

To say he has no credibility is wrong. :-(

I for one welcome guys like Ray and Phil who can give us tasty morsels of industry insight.

I know your a wanker but this goes way too far......pull your head in :hi:

[sallywinder]

hey ray....i thought you said mundine could make the weight...?:rofl

[oztriker]

Sally, guys like Ray who are working one on one with over 25 pro fighters have got credibility....they are working day to day in the industry.

To say he has no credibility is wrong. :-(

I for one welcome guys like Ray and Phil who can give us tasty morsels of industry insight.

I know your a wanker but this goes way too far......pull your head in :hi:



errrr Ash..... I wish that you would pay more attention to your personal Hygiene before you post....:deal

FFS! ..... At least wipe Mundine's cum dribble off your cheeks:patsch

[ashley]

errrr Ash..... I wish that you would pay more attention to your personal Hygiene before you post....:deal

FFS! ..... At least wipe Mundine's cum dribble off your cheeks:patsch


Not talking about Mundine.....OZ...why your gotta go make this about Mundine all the time :hi:

[sallywinder]

Not talking about Mundine.....OZ...why your gotta go make this about Mundine all the time :hi:


either ray is a mundine nuthugger like you....or hewas lied to by the mundine camp......which one ray.

also ray came on here, started a thread saying mundine could make the weight.......so he posted a lie. ZERO CREDIBILITY....and yes, it is all about mundog.

[Contendo]

Lenny Zappa is one of my favourite fighters.....Ray did some great work with him and got him down another division and hes fitter and stronger.

Why is it so hard to think that Mundine wont get value out of Ray as well :hey


Ash, with all due respect, the issue here isn't about Lenny is it? This is your deflection away from the fact that the issue is about Mundine and your question about Mundine getting value is of nil-value as fact stands, he ain't getting down to 154lbs!!!

:deal

[stiflers mum]

I too have been told from another source that Mundine would easily make weight. The fight will still probably go ahead at 154.
:lol: Whipsy still contacting you via PM mate?

[Francis75]

Where's Ray. I would like him to explain himself.

[the beaver]

It would be nice to hear Ray's side

[flamengo]

I, along with a few others from this forum had been given some info from Ray, regarding Mundines weight well over a week ago. All information was in confidence. Hence, a few of us played 'silly buggers', attempting to make people second guess the current standing of Mundine (until yesterday).

Ray was extremely confident of Mundine making weight, and said so throughout. The fact he posted on this forum should be enough, but certain people wish to call Ray a liar.

A liar??? The guy is involved in diets/nutrition for fighters. Its his fucking bread and butter.

Would he get on here and bullshit a bunch of cockheads?? Or did he get on here and respectfully offer some info that might keep some fuck heads quiet??

Its pretty fucking obvious that Ray is not a liar, nor would he jepardise his business by lying, in hope of impressing dumb cunts. Certain half wits (you know who you are) are too stupid to understand the most obvious things.

Phils gone, someone mentioned Ray is also gone???

Well done half wits.

[pecks]

I, along with a few others from this forum had been given some info from Ray, regarding Mundines weight well over a week ago. All information was in confidence. Hence, a few of us played 'silly buggers', attempting to make people second guess the current standing of Mundine (until yesterday).

Ray was extremely confident of Mundine making weight, and said so throughout. The fact he posted on this forum should be enough, but certain people wish to call Ray a liar.

A liar??? The guy is involved in diets/nutrition for fighters. Its his fucking bread and butter.

Would he get on here and bullshit a bunch of cockheads?? Or did he get on here and respectfully offer some info that might keep some fuck heads quiet??

Its pretty fucking obvious that Ray is not a liar, nor would he jepardise his business by lying, in hope of impressing dumb cunts. Certain half wits (you know who you are) are too stupid to understand the most obvious things.

Phils gone, someone mentioned Ray is also gone???

Well done half wits.Agreed.

Like his bogus 911 conspiracy theory, Sally should keep his stunted thoughts to himself, or at least tucked under his straight jacket.

[PorkChopExpress]

I, along with a few others from this forum had been given some info from Ray, regarding Mundines weight well over a week ago. All information was in confidence. Hence, a few of us played 'silly buggers', attempting to make people second guess the current standing of Mundine (until yesterday).

Ray was extremely confident of Mundine making weight, and said so throughout. The fact he posted on this forum should be enough, but certain people wish to call Ray a liar.

A liar??? The guy is involved in diets/nutrition for fighters. Its his fucking bread and butter.

Would he get on here and bullshit a bunch of cockheads?? Or did he get on here and respectfully offer some info that might keep some fuck heads quiet??

Its pretty fucking obvious that Ray is not a liar, nor would he jepardise his business by lying, in hope of impressing dumb cunts. Certain half wits (you know who you are) are too stupid to understand the most obvious things.

Phils gone, someone mentioned Ray is also gone???

Well done half wits.

well said. I tried saying similar in the other thread. It seems every few months there is an influx of dickheads that do nothing but fill this otherwise better part of the larger forum with their insignificant dribble. Time we just ignored these ass pimples...

[flamengo]

well said. I tried saying similar in the other thread. It seems every few months there is an influx of dickheads that do nothing but fill this otherwise better part of the larger forum with their insignificant dribble. Time we just ignored these ass pimples...


Too true Pork Chop. Feeding these arse pimples who bring nothing to the table is our silly fault for them hanging around.

:good

[teke]

:lol: Whipsy still contacting you via PM mate?No mate:lol:

I've actually been hearing a few good stories from St George in the off season. You think you can guess my contact there?

[Francis75]

Ok so if what Ray Kelly stated about Mundine easily being able to make 154 is true then how come Mundine dogged the 154 title fight and please don't state BS that they weren't happy with the officials of the IBO. It appears that he simply couldn't make 154 is a healthy fighting condition and compete at a good level to assure victory over Medley. Am i wrong here, what am i missing. I just want some clarification. An expert in the field who is assisting prepare Mundine starts a thread stating that Mundine can easily make 154 then a few days later it's announced that the fight will be at 160. Why ? if not for the fact that he really can't make 154.

[Marcus]

I, along with a few others from this forum had been given some info from Ray, regarding Mundines weight well over a week ago. All information was in confidence. Hence, a few of us played 'silly buggers', attempting to make people second guess the current standing of Mundine (until yesterday).

Ray was extremely confident of Mundine making weight, and said so throughout. The fact he posted on this forum should be enough, but certain people wish to call Ray a liar.

A liar??? The guy is involved in diets/nutrition for fighters. Its his fucking bread and butter.

Would he get on here and bullshit a bunch of cockheads?? Or did he get on here and respectfully offer some info that might keep some fuck heads quiet??

Its pretty fucking obvious that Ray is not a liar, nor would he jepardise his business by lying, in hope of impressing dumb cunts. Certain half wits (you know who you are) are too stupid to understand the most obvious things.

Phils gone, someone mentioned Ray is also gone???

Well done half wits.

I hope it was wholemeal bread and 99% fat free butter :p

[teke]

A i wrong here, what am i missing. I just want some clarification. An expert in the field starts a thred stating that Mundine can easily make 154 then a few days later it's announced that the fight will be at 160. Why ? if not for the fact that he really can't make 154.From most accounts it seems

a) Yes you probably are wrong, because
b) You missed the truth from someone who is working with him, and
c) Clarification just walked out the door :lol:

Fight is only a few days away so it will all be forgotten about soon enough.

[flamengo]

I hope it was wholemeal bread and 99% fat free butter :p

Speaking of 'fat free'... Fuck Off ya fat freeloader. :p

[Marcus]

Speaking of 'fat free'... Fuck Off ya fat freeloader. :p


have you been speaking to my girlfriend?

[ozziebattler]

I've been a member of this site for 18 months. How long does it take to move from newb status :lol:

I'm also a bunnies fan so cut me some slack! You of all people should know the last 20 years have been hard

Your getting desperate trying to play the Bunnies card..

The question is would Mundine be 100% healthy for the fight after making the weight??

DOUBT IT...VERY HIGHLY......

Ofcourse you are going to get on here talking up how he would of made weight easily....You are clearly a bullshit artist..

Theres no shame on failing to make weight if the MOUTH mundines body just couldnt cope with stripping what would of been mostly then muscle..

[flamengo]

Your getting desperate trying to play the Bunnies card..

The question is would Mundine be 100% healthy for the fight after making the weight??

DOUBT IT...VERY HIGHLY......

Ofcourse you are going to get on here talking up how he would of made weight easily....You are clearly a bullshit artist..

Theres no shame on failing to make weight if the MOUTH mundines body just couldnt cope with stripping what would of been mostly then muscle..

Another failing to understand Rays job. OB, you should realise that sweating down, training to lose kilo's instead of slow progression via dietry manipulation would do the job.

Being a Sydney resident, you're another in position to ask him face to face.. Go to the Mundine fight, ask him personally. Then get back to the forum with your opinion.

[flamengo]

have you been speaking to my girlfriend?

Does Jaxxon have black hair?? :yep

[sallywinder]

whats rays number?????

i notice he CANT POST ANYMORE!!!!!!! no CERDIBILITY!!!!!!loollloolllolloolloll

[flamengo]

Look it up.

[ozziebattler]

Another failing to understand Rays job. OB, you should realise that sweating down, training to lose kilo's instead of slow progression via dietry manipulation would do the job.

Being a Sydney resident, you're another in position to ask him face to face.. Go to the Mundine fight, ask him personally. Then get back to the forum with your opinion.


I have boxed before and am now currently cutting weight for my first MMA bout mid this year and know all about the strain and pain that it involves.

You have to have a good balance which involves intense training and very strict dietry regime...

My mother is a highly respected personal trainer based in QLD(TRAITOR) and my girl a nutricionistso i have plenty of knowledge available on ways to cut weight..I been around pro training most of my life from my former footy days so i know what really works...

Mundine would of made 69kgs but making weight dont mean shit when you have killed yourself just to get there...

And Mundine wouldnt of had nothing left come fightnight...He is a lean bloke and as stated numerous times he played footy at 86kgs...And didnt have a ounce of fat on him either..

Nearly 20kgs lighter though 8years older=Very weak weight drained fighter...further equalling no power or stamina..

[ozziebattler]

Another failing to understand Rays job. OB, you should realise that sweating down, training to lose kilo's instead of slow progression via dietry manipulation would do the job.

Being a Sydney resident, you're another in position to ask him face to face.. Go to the Mundine fight, ask him personally. Then get back to the forum with your opinion.


Oh i forgot to add...

I aint spending a dime on a Mundine fight...

I get to watch the contender fight on fox 8 so thats good enough for me..

[Marcus]

Does Jaxxon have black hair?? :yep


you guys will love this...its kinda auburn :scaredas:

[oztriker]

I have boxed before and am now currently cutting weight for my first MMA bout mid this year and know all about the strain and pain that it involves.

You have to have a good balance which involves instead training and very strict dietry regime...

My mother is a highly respected personal trainer based in QLD(TRAITOR) and my girl a nutricionistso i have plenty of knowledge available on ways to cut weight..I been around pro training most of my life from my former footy days so i know what really works...

Mundine would of made 69kgs but making weight dont mean shit when you have killed yourself just to get there...

And Mundine wouldnt of had nothing left come fightnight...He is a lean bloke and as stated numerous times he played footy at 86kgs...And didnt have a ounce of fat on him either..

Nearly 20kgs lighter though 8years older=Very weak weight drained fighter...further equalling no power or stamina..

Totally agree:good

[JOSEY WALES]

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[Marcus]

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not for a boy :twisted:

[flamengo]

Oh... Plenty of people have weighed 90+ kilo's, without an ounce of fat.. then dopped the weight to condition for other purposes. Mundine weighing 86 kgs playing footy is NOT an example of how his body works. His footy weight was designed for the game and for a high performance.

Expecting to retain the same strength at 69.95 kgs is a foolish expectation for any man, as not many fighters have the power lifting/brute strength of the fit and conditioned man at 86kgs.

Re-ad******g the body mass and focusing condition on strength areas to carry him the 12 rounds if neccessary is/was the job at hand for Ray.

I weighed 64kgs in 1995. My strength was limited as could be.. I weigh little more now, yet eat like a bastard and burn it up, whilst physically strong for my work...as skinny as I may look.

Mundine was dropping 5 kg's from fight weight to jM/W.. more than possible.. He does not need the conditioning of a SM/W or M/W.

[flamengo]

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