View Full Version : Green and Hopkins money split.
zerasoth
01-05-2010, 06:52 AM
I hear all these knobs screaming like schoolgirls about danny wanting a 50/50 split. I think it's fair enough. He shouldn't settle for the 60/40 that bhop wants, it's bullshit. Hopkins comes here, to fight green for greens title, so i think a 50/50 is fair. Fuck that legacy and legend shit. The fight is all about now, it would happen now, with now's crowd ( excuse the grammer ) so let the purse reflect what the standings and situation are now, who has the biggest pulling power in aus, who is more known, and most of all, who has the title they would fight for?
( not sure, but i hope bhop doesnt have a title they would fight for, coz then i would look like a fuckface, lol )
Francis75
01-05-2010, 07:01 AM
No doubt you think Danny Green is an amazing fighter don't you.
zerasoth
01-05-2010, 07:08 AM
Nope, not amazing, a solid fighter with a good chin and decent power. He hasn't got the skills to match it up with the greats of the world, but he has the right to not be fucked in the ass by a great fighter of old ( and still present, by his last fight ) who wants it his way because he is who he is, thats all.
shiner
01-05-2010, 07:48 AM
hopkins has never had a cruiser title!
totally agree, hopkins saying he bought USA TV, $1.5m? Big deal, where is the other $6m coming from- obviously Oz so he can go fuck himself!
Just like jones if he's got so many other big money fights out there- go get one?!
Francis75
01-05-2010, 07:55 AM
Hopkins would earn just as much fighting Bute in Canada and it would be a worthwhile fight as Bute is considered probably the best super middle in the world. Danny Green is a nobody in the world of boxing.
boxoncottonon
01-05-2010, 08:30 AM
Hopkins would earn just as much fighting Bute in Canada and it would be a worthwhile fight as Bute is considered probably the best super middle in the world. Danny Green is a nobody in the world of boxing.
So why the fuck are we even discussing it, why doesn't Hopkins fuck off to Canada and fight Bute..............well...:think
Francis75
01-05-2010, 08:35 AM
So why the fuck are we even discussing it, why doesn't Hopkins fuck off to Canada and fight Bute..............well...:think
He probably will unless the limited Green coughs up 60 % of the pie.
flamengo
01-05-2010, 08:44 AM
Hopkins own legacy would be well served by belting Green right now. Regardless of Greens International standing prior to the RJJ 'fall down'.
Not to mention that RJJ would become slightly infuriated should BHop destroy Green.
"I beat him..who beat the bloke that beat me.. but, Im still beaten.."
60/40 is fair even 65/35 hopkins.....Hopkins has so much to lose by losing to Danny and nothing to gain by fighting him....Green Is in a Win/Win position if he fights hopkins...Looks great on the resume even if he looses but if he wins he will be slingshot in to stardum.
If Green wants to bring over another legend he should cough up the $$$. Green still has nothing to lose and he just has a BS belt anyways. It's not about whether Green or Hopkins is the bigger draw card in Australia. Most people probably don't know who Hopkins is. It's about the possibility of bringing another big name and another big fight here. 60/40 is more than fair.
Kegsy
01-05-2010, 10:38 AM
If Green wants to bring over another legend he should cough up the $$$. Green still has nothing to lose and he just has a BS belt anyways. It's not about whether Green or Hopkins is the bigger draw card in Australia. Most people probably don't know who Hopkins is. It's about the possibility of bringing another big name and another big fight here. 60/40 is more than fair.
:deal
People arent fighting green for the belt he has,as its a shit belt anyway,thats why its all about the money on this one.
sallywinder
01-05-2010, 03:37 PM
green does actually turn up though....not like mundog..
11player
01-05-2010, 07:39 PM
I think Green has to make an effort to get this donne, it's his best option hands down. Mundine is also atractive but too complicated.
BHop has Green, Dawson and probably Bute in his table. He probably feels Green is his easier option but he will only take it if the money is similar to the other options.
Either way im sure there both making good money from this fight, so just make it happen boys, ill jump in the ring with bhop for 1/2 a mil
christo
01-05-2010, 09:11 PM
As an american i'd like to chime in on this. If i recall, danny green threw
a monkey wrench in the showdown machine that was building that hopkins/Jones II. Green makes an out of the blue challenge on the phone
of a friend of hopkins in OZ, and lo and behold, hops is VERY interested.
Why? because hopkins has blown a potential fight w/ adamek, said he will not fight dawson, and if he thinks interbox is going to settle for a 40/60
split in montreal for a bute fight, he's got as much brains as pearly whites.
Hopkins needs green as much as green needs hops. Beranrd is NOT a draw. Never has been nor never will be. Hell, more calz fans were in the audience in their fight than nard fans. His last fight in his hometown was a joke. Hopkins is not pacquiao. He NEEDS a dance partner to sell a ticket.
Green is a ticket seller. Therefore, if hopkins can get a purse parity of 60/40, he should be overjoyed that he got that or retire. Cause a haye fight ain't gonna happen! Promise. Green KO'd his money fight with RJJ, so
I'd say that green is def hops best chance for a money fight. And for the record. A fight in OZ is just as lucrative as a bute fight in montreal at a 60/40 for hops( which he won't get ) and it gives hops a chance to grap a decent title at a rank he hasn't fought at yet. So, for the poster that said
hops has nothing to gain by fighting green is dead wrong.
Hold your ground danny green. You've earned it!
boxoncottonon
01-05-2010, 09:20 PM
As an american i'd like to chime in on this. If i recall, danny green threw
a monkey wrench in the showdown machine that was building that hopkins/Jones II. Green makes an out of the blue challenge on the phone
of a friend of hopkins in OZ, and lo and behold, hops is VERY interested.
Why? because hopkins has blown a potential fight w/ adamek, said he will not fight dawson, and if he thinks interbox is going to settle for a 40/60
split in montreal for a bute fight, he's got as much brains as pearly whites.
Hopkins needs green as much as green needs hops. Beranrd is NOT a draw. Never has been nor never will be. Hell, more calz fans were in the audience in their fight than nard fans. His last fight in his hometown was a joke. Hopkins is not pacquiao. He NEEDS a dance partner to sell a ticket.
Green is a ticket seller. Therefore, if hopkins can get a purse parity of 60/40, he should be overjoyed that he got that or retire. Cause a haye fight ain't gonna happen! Promise. Green KO'd his money fight with RJJ, so
I'd say that green is def hops best chance for a money fight. And for the record. A fight in OZ is just as lucrative as a bute fight in montreal at a 60/40 for hops( which he won't get ) and it gives hops a chance to grap a decent title at a rank he hasn't fought at yet. So, for the poster that said
hops has nothing to gain by fighting green is dead wrong.
Hold your ground danny green. You've earned it!
Cheers for your point of view....great to get an outside perspective on Hopkins......:good
goodnight
01-05-2010, 09:27 PM
As an american i'd like to chime in on this. If i recall, danny green threw
a monkey wrench in the showdown machine that was building that hopkins/Jones II. Green makes an out of the blue challenge on the phone
of a friend of hopkins in OZ, and lo and behold, hops is VERY interested.
Why? because hopkins has blown a potential fight w/ adamek, said he will not fight dawson, and if he thinks interbox is going to settle for a 40/60
split in montreal for a bute fight, he's got as much brains as pearly whites.
Hopkins needs green as much as green needs hops. Beranrd is NOT a draw. Never has been nor never will be. Hell, more calz fans were in the audience in their fight than nard fans. His last fight in his hometown was a joke. Hopkins is not pacquiao. He NEEDS a dance partner to sell a ticket.
Green is a ticket seller. Therefore, if hopkins can get a purse parity of 60/40, he should be overjoyed that he got that or retire. Cause a haye fight ain't gonna happen! Promise. Green KO'd his money fight with RJJ, so
I'd say that green is def hops best chance for a money fight. And for the record. A fight in OZ is just as lucrative as a bute fight in montreal at a 60/40 for hops( which he won't get ) and it gives hops a chance to grap a decent title at a rank he hasn't fought at yet. So, for the poster that said
hops has nothing to gain by fighting green is dead wrong.
Hold your ground danny green. You've earned it!
Bernard may not be a draw in the states, but we in oz don't get to many chances to an all time great. So if this fight gets made and i buy tix for it.
I will be going to see Bhop not danny.
IrnBruMan
01-05-2010, 09:31 PM
Good stuff christo, I didn't realise you were American, I noticed your support for Green in the aftermath of the RJJ fight and assumed you were an Aussie.
You're right about Hopkins not being a draw - it wasn't until he signed to fight DLH that he started getting top PPV billing.
The Trinidad fight was his breakthrough fight, but he never really consolidated on it until he fought DLH - look at who he fought between Tito and DLH - Daniels, Hakkar, Joppy, Allen - no superstars there and 4 pretty boring fights IMO.
His style is not spectator-friendly, and it wasn't until he had GBP behind him (after he beat DLH and signed up with them 2 weeks later :hey) that he started fighting big names like Tarver, Wright, Calzaghe, Pavlik.
But look who his last opponent was - Ornelas - he's dropped back down to fighting nobodies, so unless he wants to go out on that note, or fight more nobodies until he decides he's done, he's going to have to realise Green offers more money that he can make elsewhere at this point in time.
IrnBruMan
01-05-2010, 09:41 PM
if this fight gets made and i buy tix for it.
I will be going to see Bhop not danny.
You can bet the majority of Australians watching the fight will be watching for Green - they won't know who Hopkins is, only what they will have read in the papers and seen on the news and the publicity in the build up to the fight.
They'll be behind Green and therefore will watch because of him.
Of course, there will be true fans of the sport who will watch to see an old master like Hopkins do his thing, but that's a small minority of the people who will be tuning in.
There will also be the pro-Mundine/anti-Green squad tuning in hoping to see Hopkins beat Green, again, a small minority.
The pubs will be full (again) of casual fans like they were for the Green vs RJJ fight, barracking for Green.
The US PPV market will be made up of:
Hopkins fans - not a huge majority by any means, as he is not a huge PPV star in the US (his last fight vs Ornelas wasn't PPV);
People who now know who Green is from him stopping RJJ. This latter group will be made up of 2 types - those watching to see Hopkins beat Green because they dislike Green for stopping RJJ and ruining the rematch with Hopkins, and those watching because they are interested in Green.
HBO will market the fight to get maximum patronage, on the back of Green being the guy who stopped RJJ in 1 round and ruining the proposed RJJ-Hopkins rematch.
stiflers mum
01-05-2010, 10:01 PM
man i just want Danny to take 60/40 to get Nard here.40 percent of a Hopkins fight is far better than 80 peercent of a Siaca fight.Hopkins is doing the travelling,fighting in hostile territory,Danny fucked up his 10 million RJJ payday.give the brother a break.:rasta
IrnBruMan
01-05-2010, 10:04 PM
From what I understand though, Hopkins wants 100% of the HBO PPV money plus 60% of the rest, which includes purse and Aussie PPV.
stiflers mum
01-06-2010, 07:37 PM
From what I understand though, Hopkins wants 100% of the HBO PPV money plus 60% of the rest, which includes purse and Aussie PPV.
oh.
shanemfr
01-06-2010, 08:48 PM
From what I understand though, Hopkins wants 100% of the HBO PPV money plus 60% of the rest, which includes purse and Aussie PPV.
Also by the sounds of it, it was Shaw working for Green that negotiated the deal with HBO yet Hopkins sat on his ass but wants all the money from it.
46and0
01-06-2010, 10:09 PM
This fight is a dead cert to go ahead. I checked out Bernard Hopkin's Facebook, and he is a member of the Danny Green groups!
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Maxime
01-07-2010, 12:46 AM
hopkins has never had a cruiser title!
Neither has Danny Green....
christo
01-07-2010, 12:48 AM
From what I understand though, Hopkins wants 100% of the HBO PPV money plus 60% of the rest, which includes purse and Aussie PPV.
This fight will not be on HBO PPV, but probably WCB. And if hops thinks
he's getting all the TV money then he should've just turned the fight down
and announced his retirement. He'll never get ANYONE in the ring with his
attitude. Hops should leave the promoting to schaeffer, and just fight.
Maxime
01-07-2010, 12:52 AM
From what I understand though, Hopkins wants 100% of the HBO PPV money plus 60% of the rest, which includes purse and Aussie PPV.
I highly doubt Green-Hopkins would be on HBO PPV.
Hopkins isn't much of a draw and Green is an absolute nobody in America...
Farmboxer
01-07-2010, 02:18 AM
I read that Hopkins/Green fight would be for some pretty good money in Australia.
left jab danny
01-07-2010, 02:24 AM
I highly doubt Green-Hopkins would be on HBO PPV.
Hopkins isn't much of a draw and Green is an absolute nobody in America...
Yer it won't be on ppv if it goes ahead it will be on regular HBO they have offered 2.2 mil for the rights:deal
buster007
01-07-2010, 03:32 AM
u r wrong with green being an absolute nobody in the usa.
many many more people now know about him. they may not know much and probably don't need to, but greens ko win over jones will entice alot of them to watch him fight hopkins for curiosity at least. with nearly 300 million people there, it only takes a minute % to make decent money. don't underestimate it.
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