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josak
06-25-2007, 07:36 PM
Angelo Dundee after the Tyson-Berbick fight:
“He throws combinations I never saw before. I was stunned. Nothing is supposed to bother me. I’ve worked with Ali and Sugar Ray Leonard, but I’m seeing [from Tyson] a three-punch combination second to none. When have you seen a guy throw a right hand to the kidney, come up the middle with an uppercut, then throw a left hook?”

Freddie Roach about Tyson:
"Early in his career, he was unbeatable. He feared no one and was always in great shape. Great speed and a great puncher."

Manny Steward about Tyson:
"What was so amazing about him was he was such a small guy in an era of tall fighters... just like Marciano was. Mike was 220 but he was fighting guys 240-250."

Miguel Diaz:
"Tyson was so great until D'Amato and (Jimmy) Jacobs passed away. He was a great, great champ. The speed on his punches... not the speed of how the threw them, I'm talking about the 'speed' in which the brain tells the muscle to 'throw' - was unbelievable."

Jersey Joe Walcott about Tyson:
"I think he is a great fighter and a great champion. He would have done well in any given time. I'm sure he would've done well in my time when all the great fighters of the 40s were around."

Trainer Ray Arcel about Tyson:
"He could have fit in at any time in the heavyweight ranks. He could punch hard enough to have beaten anybody if he could hit them. The guy's a natural fighter."

Eddie Futch about Tyson:
"I think he has the potential to be the greatest of all, because he has two things going for him: terrific hand speed and the power, combined. He can lose 11 2/3 rounds of a fight and then take you out with one shot"

Jose Torres , NY Boxing commisioner:
'Mike Tyson is so fast and so powerful that it is almost impossible to resist the guy's punching power. Wherever he hits you, you're going to feel it. He reminds me maybe of George Foreman, but Tyson's much faster than Foreman. He reminds me in style of Rocky Marciano, but he's much faster than Marciano, and he's much bigger, 217 pounds. And he's faster and much more powerful than Joe Frazier, with a better hook. I really have no one to compare him with in terms of punching power.'

Frank Bruno:
"I'd rather fight Lennox once every week than fight Tyson once every year."

In the post-fight interview after knocking out Michael Johnson with a brutal shot to the head Tyson answers the question how he went right to him after the knockdown:
"It's my style. You make your own openings. You time things..everything was set-up. When he went down the first time I knew i was going to hit him. And that's how it's planned. I'm the master of the pin-point. My shots are so accurate and so precise...not to be egotistic...but when they land they are so precise...I can't help it who you are...you have to go down, because there is a law when Mike Tyson hits you."

Jose Torres on seeing the Mike still as a kid working in the gym:
“When I saw Mike hit the heavy bag, move to one side, punch again, and move to the other side, I realized how extraordinarily difficult it would be to withstand this kid’s sledgehammer punches. I shook my head in disbelief.”

Eddie Richardson, after being knocked out by Tyson, was asked if he’s ever been hit as hard as Mike hit him:
“Yeah, about a year ago. I was hit by a truck.”

And there is Sterling Benjamin, the Jamaican who sagged under a furious body attack after 58 seconds of Round 1: 'He has a sledgehammer, man!'

Sammy Scaff, the 250-pound Kentuckian who buckled under a barrage of Tyson punches, finally succumbing to a left hook after 1:19 of the first:
'I sparred with Greg Page, and I went four rounds, with Tim Witherspoon,' said Scaff, whose nose was still bleeding half an hour after the fight, 'but I've never been hit that hard in my life.'

William Hosea after being knocked out in the first round by Tyson: 'He fights you like you stole something from him'

Buster Mathis Jr. after his bout with Mike Tyson.:
'Mike Tyson dropped me. and when I looked up, the count was on five. I said to myself, Damn, whatever happened to one to four.'

Michael Spinks:
"Boxing is the best job in the world to let off steam, and people are in trouble when Tyson wants to let off steam"

Someone asked one of Mike’s sparring partners if he’s ever really tried to open up on Mike and get the best of him in the ring:
“I’m no fool. I’m paid to survive, not to commit suicide.”

Sparring partner Corey "T-Rex" Sanders:
"I've never been in the ring with someone who hit that hard. It feels like he has bricks in both hands."

Commentator after live watching Mike Tyson fight Mike Jameson: 'He throws flurries and punches like a welterweight. Very seldom do you see heavyweights throw combinations of 5, 6 punches. But Mike Tyson does it'.

Gerard
06-25-2007, 07:45 PM
Good quotes:good
Where did you get these from?

josak
06-25-2007, 07:46 PM
tysontalk.com

Primadonna Kool
06-25-2007, 07:49 PM
Fantastic

Ramon Rojo
06-25-2007, 11:54 PM
Jersey Joe Walcott about Tyson:

"I think he is a great fighter and a great champion. He would have done well in any given time. I'm sure he would've done well in my time when all the great fighters of the 40s were around."

:rofl

No shit Sherlock. Tyson would have destroyed this journeyman with an ease. Same goes for Marciano and Louis.

JohnThomas1
06-26-2007, 04:08 AM
Eddie Futch reigned his comments in a bit later on, saying basically if Tyson couldn't move forward he was ordinary.

hobgoblin
06-26-2007, 04:41 AM
Eddie Futch reigned his comments in a bit later on, saying basically if Tyson couldn't move forward he was ordinary.

Yeah, you have to be carefu with comments like these. When a fighter is at his peak, everyone calls him the best, the next Ali, etc. Wladamir Klitschko is a great example of this. Immediately after a slip, they'll say he is nothing but hype. People fall into hype too. Before the Lewis vs Tyson fight, famous people were saying all kinds of stuff.

The best quotes are the ones long after a boxer has retired. That goes for the Marciano quotes too! (although he did prove that he was little hype and mostly substance).

janitor
06-26-2007, 05:16 AM
Posted this in General forum on accident..

Angelo Dundee after the Tyson-Berbick fight:
“He throws combinations I never saw before. I was stunned. Nothing is supposed to bother me. I’ve worked with Ali and Sugar Ray Leonard, but I’m seeing [from Tyson] a three-punch combination second to none. When have you seen a guy throw a right hand to the kidney, come up the middle with an uppercut, then throw a left hook?”

Freddie Roach about Tyson:
"Early in his career, he was unbeatable. He feared no one and was always in great shape. Great speed and a great puncher."

Manny Steward about Tyson:
"What was so amazing about him was he was such a small guy in an era of tall fighters... just like Marciano was. Mike was 220 but he was fighting guys 240-250."

Miguel Diaz:
"Tyson was so great until D'Amato and (Jimmy) Jacobs passed away. He was a great, great champ. The speed on his punches... not the speed of how the threw them, I'm talking about the 'speed' in which the brain tells the muscle to 'throw' - was unbelievable."

Jersey Joe Walcott about Tyson:
"I think he is a great fighter and a great champion. He would have done well in any given time. I'm sure he would've done well in my time when all the great fighters of the 40s were around."

Trainer Ray Arcel about Tyson:
"He could have fit in at any time in the heavyweight ranks. He could punch hard enough to have beaten anybody if he could hit them. The guy's a natural fighter."

Eddie Futch about Tyson:
"I think he has the potential to be the greatest of all, because he has two things going for him: terrific hand speed and the power, combined. He can lose 11 2/3 rounds of a fight and then take you out with one shot"

Jose Torres , NY Boxing commisioner:
'Mike Tyson is so fast and so powerful that it is almost impossible to resist the guy's punching power. Wherever he hits you, you're going to feel it. He reminds me maybe of George Foreman, but Tyson's much faster than Foreman. He reminds me in style of Rocky Marciano, but he's much faster than Marciano, and he's much bigger, 217 pounds. And he's faster and much more powerful than Joe Frazier, with a better hook. I really have no one to compare him with in terms of punching power.'

Frank Bruno:
"I'd rather fight Lennox once every week than fight Tyson once every year."

In the post-fight interview after knocking out Michael Johnson with a brutal shot to the head Tyson answers the question how he went right to him after the knockdown:
"It's my style. You make your own openings. You time things..everything was set-up. When he went down the first time I knew i was going to hit him. And that's how it's planned. I'm the master of the pin-point. My shots are so accurate and so precise...not to be egotistic...but when they land they are so precise...I can't help it who you are...you have to go down, because there is a law when Mike Tyson hits you."

Jose Torres on seeing the Mike still as a kid working in the gym:
“When I saw Mike hit the heavy bag, move to one side, punch again, and move to the other side, I realized how extraordinarily difficult it would be to withstand this kid’s sledgehammer punches. I shook my head in disbelief.”

Eddie Richardson, after being knocked out by Tyson, was asked if he’s ever been hit as hard as Mike hit him:
“Yeah, about a year ago. I was hit by a truck.”

And there is Sterling Benjamin, the Jamaican who sagged under a furious body attack after 58 seconds of Round 1: 'He has a sledgehammer, man!'

Sammy Scaff, the 250-pound Kentuckian who buckled under a barrage of Tyson punches, finally succumbing to a left hook after 1:19 of the first:
'I sparred with Greg Page, and I went four rounds, with Tim Witherspoon,' said Scaff, whose nose was still bleeding half an hour after the fight, 'but I've never been hit that hard in my life.'

William Hosea after being knocked out in the first round by Tyson: 'He fights you like you stole something from him'

Buster Mathis Jr. after his bout with Mike Tyson.:
'Mike Tyson dropped me. and when I looked up, the count was on five. I said to myself, Damn, whatever happened to one to four.'

Michael Spinks:
"Boxing is the best job in the world to let off steam, and people are in trouble when Tyson wants to let off steam"

Someone asked one of Mike’s sparring partners if he’s ever really tried to open up on Mike and get the best of him in the ring:
“I’m no fool. I’m paid to survive, not to commit suicide.”

Sparring partner Corey "T-Rex" Sanders:
"I've never been in the ring with someone who hit that hard. It feels like he has bricks in both hands."

Commentator after live watching Mike Tyson fight Mike Jameson: 'He throws flurries and punches like a welterweight. Very seldom do you see heavyweights throw combinations of 5, 6 punches. But Mike Tyson does it'.

These quotes beutifuly underline what a tremendous natural Talent Tyson was. Based on this level of athletic skill he could easily have been one of the top three heavyweights of all time if he had remained focused for a few more years.

On his way up to destroying Michael Spinks he vas as doinant as any champion since Joe Louis. That is the sort of career he should have been aiming for.

The fighter who provides the best historical paralel for Tyson is Terry McGovern. At his peak he looked invincible but he burned out quickly.

janitor
06-26-2007, 05:17 AM
:rofl

No shit Sherlock. Tyson would have destroyed this journeyman with an ease. Same goes for Marciano and Louis.

Easier said than done.

Doc McCoy
06-26-2007, 06:32 AM
Yeah, the one thing Tyson seemed to lack was heart.
The 3 guys mentioned above had plenty of it!

Sizzle
06-26-2007, 07:04 AM
[quote=gregdempsey]tyson never did win a fight he was behind in....quote]

Rubbish. Botha?

Can't really hold it against him that he dominated every fight.

young griffo
06-26-2007, 07:12 AM
I had Tyson trailing against Marvis Frazier before the stoppage.

Stonehands89
06-26-2007, 10:48 AM
Tyson legacy lurches between two extremes: You have the apologists who think that he was a legend and then you have the dissenters who say he had no heart.

I think that Tyson's offensive capability was second to no one and that includes Louis, Liston, Marciano, Dempsey, and Foreman. But he was no legend because he simply didn't have the character to sustain greatness.

His prime was brief and his decline was in a spotlight. His personality, which was propped up by Cus and Kevin, was fragile and disintegrated under the malevolent influence of Don King, Robin Givens and her Medusa mother. Tyson was indeed a Man-Child ...but he became a childlike man. And he remains locked into that limbo of self-loathing.

How is he remembered? For the rape, the mayhem against Holyfield, and his diatribes about eating Lennox'x children and raping reporters. His unprecedented offensive capability is remembered too as it was the engine behind his fame and infamy; but it is overshadowed by the caricature of a man that Tyson became.

For a short time, the man was a force of nature. The only HWs in history who could beat him are those that can survive his early onslaught and who have the character assets that he never developed.

McGrain
06-26-2007, 10:53 AM
He is THE hardest fighter to asses properly IMO. The guys who rate him tend to have him at number one, all time in his weight category - some guys who post in General have him no.1 p4p. On the other hand, the guys who really don't rate him want to run him down as a coward with no heart.

When you watch him at his absoute best it's easy to invisage him doing that against every heavyweight that ever lived. Then you see his fight with bonecrsuher or the first Hollyfield and it seems that any fighter with a class/guile combination would beat him.

Some experts pick him for speed and power - others deride his infighting and physicality (reach, hieght etc.). He's a nightmare to rate, really. I currently have him at #10, which is the highest i've had him at.

josak
06-26-2007, 01:39 PM
[quote=gregdempsey]tyson never did win a fight he was behind in....quote]

Rubbish. Botha?

Can't really hold it against him that he dominated every fight.

:good


Then you see his fight with bonecrsuher or the first Hollyfield and it seems that any fighter with a class/guile combination would beat him.


Bonecrusher?? He didn't do anything to Tyson but hold him for 12 rounds. He got maybe one decent punch off, and that was in the last 10 seconds of the fight.

mr. magoo
06-26-2007, 02:11 PM
Then you see his fight with bonecrsuher or the first Hollyfield and it seems that any fighter with a class/guile combination would beat him.



Well, at least I know one fight of Tyson's that you didn't see....

Danny Ocean
06-26-2007, 02:25 PM
any quotes off ali

garymcfall
06-26-2007, 03:25 PM
any quotes off ali

"When you watch Tyson, he's good but he's no Muhammad Ali..."

Bigcat
06-26-2007, 04:45 PM
Tony Tucker.. " God spared my life for a purpose when i missed the flight to poland.. I will beat Mike Tyson and i will have the good lord on my side."

Mike Tyson " If he beleives that God is on his side, come Saturday.. God will need to bless him. "

Marciano Frazier
06-26-2007, 04:52 PM
Rubbish. Botha?
Technically, yes, but in the Botha fight, he had only been behind for four rounds, was already showing obvious signs of frustration and desperation, and had attempted to foul out by twisting Botha's arm in a clinch in an effort to break it before he caught Botha with that big haymaker, so this fight doesn't exactly demonstrate great mental strength or courage.



Can't really hold it against him that he dominated every fight.
I don't know about you, but he sure doesn't look like he's dominating in at least six of his fights to me.

LeedsLad
06-26-2007, 04:54 PM
Nice quotes.. the Frank Bruno was interesting

Sonny's jab
06-26-2007, 05:34 PM
He is THE hardest fighter to asses properly IMO. The guys who rate him tend to have him at number one, all time in his weight category - some guys who post in General have him no.1 p4p. On the other hand, the guys who really don't rate him want to run him down as a coward with no heart.

I dont rate him, but I dont want to run him down as a coward with no heart.
He wasn't the toughest fighter but he was pretty tough.

I do try to say he was never invincible, and that the Buster Douglas fight is a legitimate piece of evidence in the case against his prime invincibility ............... all of which apparently makes me a "hater" or "too harsh".

For some reason, Tyson's excuse book runs to 1000 pages where other fighters are afforded one or two lines.

UpWithEvil
06-26-2007, 05:35 PM
For some reason, Tyson's excuse book runs to 1000 pages

I'm not gonna wade through 999 pages of "ROONEY! ROONEY! ROONEY" just to get to one page of "DON KING! ROBIN GIVENS!"

JohnThomas1
06-27-2007, 06:09 AM
He is THE hardest fighter to asses properly IMO. The guys who rate him tend to have him at number one, all time in his weight category - some guys who post in General have him no.1 p4p. On the other hand, the guys who really don't rate him want to run him down as a coward with no heart.

When you watch him at his absoute best it's easy to invisage him doing that against every heavyweight that ever lived. Then you see his fight with bonecrsuher or the first Hollyfield and it seems that any fighter with a class/guile combination would beat him.

Some experts pick him for speed and power - others deride his infighting and physicality (reach, hieght etc.). He's a nightmare to rate, really. I currently have him at #10, which is the highest i've had him at.

Spot on, Tyson is indeed a nightmare to rate.

Holmes' Jab
06-27-2007, 06:28 AM
I had Tyson trailing against Marvis Frazier before the stoppage.

I think most of us who blinked during that fight missed it :D

C. M. Clay II
06-27-2007, 11:33 AM
Tony Tucker.. " God spared my life for a purpose when i missed the flight to poland.. I will beat Mike Tyson and i will have the good lord on my side."

Mike Tyson " If he beleives that God is on his side, come Saturday.. God will need to bless him. "

:lol: I like that one.

Bad_Intentions
06-27-2007, 11:35 AM
great quotes.

Sizzle
10-05-2007, 01:33 PM
Hoof!