View Full Version : Pavlik excellent at picking his punches!!
bumdujour
09-30-2007, 05:30 PM
just looked at the stoppage again.
pavlik didnt look like a 25 year old kid in there, but more like a crafty veteran.
after hurting taylor, he didnt hurry himself, he calmly picked his spots, looking for openings and found them with the uppercuts......first a left, then one with his right hand.
really impressive stuff. when this guy hurts you, you better not stay in a corner:verysad
and as for the stoppage: some people called it bad........but that is bullshit.
taylor slumped to the floor as if a bullet had hit him. very good call imo.
brooklyn1550
09-30-2007, 05:38 PM
He's a great finisher
41fever
09-30-2007, 05:52 PM
he's gonna b hard to beat @160
bigeddie27
09-30-2007, 05:54 PM
ive said it before and ill say it again, he has one sneaky fucking uppercut.
unclepaulie
09-30-2007, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by Assassin
I agree, he is also very devastatingly accurate
Yet another thing he gets no credit for. Joe Calzaghe throws thirty punches while Manfredo was on the ropes and hits him twice, but you would think he is the most accurate fighter in the world the way Calzaghe fans talk. Pavlk deserves way more credit.
cross_trainer
09-30-2007, 07:20 PM
Yet another thing he gets no credit for. Joe Calzaghe throws thirty punches while Manfredo was on the ropes and hits him twice, but you would think he is the most accurate fighter in the world the way Calzaghe fans talk. Pavlk deserves way more credit.
More importantly, Pavlik actually punches with leverage. The massive number of missing punches that Calzaghe threw weren't exactly devastating either.
mattress
09-30-2007, 08:14 PM
Great finisher, no doubt about that. You could see that he thought about every punch he threw. Lucky for him that Taylor wasn't quite as composed.
bumdujour
09-30-2007, 08:17 PM
Great finisher, no doubt about that. You could see that he thought about every punch he threw. Lucky for him that Taylor wasn't quite as composed.
Thats exactly what i thought about him thinking about every punch before throwing.
i cant believe this kid is so mature at only 25!
he will be hard to beat.
chimba
09-30-2007, 08:22 PM
What I and people love about Pavlik is his ability to finish. I mean he hit taylor with that right and 3 seconds later fight was stopped. I mean this is something you cant teach. This is what impressed me the most, hes rare in that regard
mattress
09-30-2007, 08:23 PM
he will be hard to beat.
I think that depends on what he does next. The rematch ain't gonna be easy but he'll go into it even more confident and I think Taylor's confidence may be dented and I personally think, deep down, that he already didn't have that much self belief to start with.
Pavlik should stay at MW for a while as there are some good fights there for him. Maybe SMW is a division he may grow into in time...but not yet, there's no point.
JETSKI
10-05-2007, 10:44 AM
This is a good thread, for the reason that Pavliks ability to hurt & then quickly finish an opponent is his major attribute in the sport. And its his physical size & great punching technique that gives him this advantage.
I've always said that Pavlik is great at picking his shots. High workrate with a lot of average weight punches & then WHAM! In comes the bomb!
(((((((((((((KP by KO))))))))))))
:bbb
pipe wrenched
10-05-2007, 12:20 PM
just looked at the stoppage again.
pavlik didnt look like a 25 year old kid in there, but more like a crafty veteran.
after hurting taylor, he didnt hurry himself, he calmly picked his spots, looking for openings and found them with the uppercuts......first a left, then one with his right hand.
really impressive stuff. when this guy hurts you, you better not stay in a corner:verysad
and as for the stoppage: some people called it bad........but that is bullshit.
taylor slumped to the floor as if a bullet had hit him. very good call imo.
:good Good assesment.
dragosuhail
10-05-2007, 12:27 PM
yup great finisher indeed.
power, maturity, intelligence and killer instinct will make him very dangerous at middleweight. give him a few years and he might replicate that at super middle as well. but not now. he needs to enjoy his kingdom first before a risky move north. the longer he waits the better he will be when he does eventually move up.
Decker
10-05-2007, 01:14 PM
just looked at the stoppage again.
pavlik didnt look like a 25 year old kid in there, but more like a crafty veteran.
after hurting taylor, he didnt hurry himself, he calmly picked his spots, looking for openings and found them with the uppercuts......first a left, then one with his right hand.
really impressive stuff. when this guy hurts you, you better not stay in a corner:verysad
and as for the stoppage: some people called it bad........but that is bullshit.
taylor slumped to the floor as if a bullet had hit him. very good call imo.Agree. That was a top display of finishing an opponent.
Wonder why - until recently - he has been a relative secret in the boxing world? :huh
bozini
10-05-2007, 01:53 PM
He definitely is a technician when finishing opponents. Very cool and decisive when throwing certain punches. The uppercuts he throws are devastating -- ask Zurache. Taylor says he punched himself out in the second -- i don't believe it. You are supposed to be able to throw that many punches to finish a guy off -- especially in the second round. Of course, Pavlik would have actually killed someone if he threw 15 clean shots with power on someone. Pavlik withstood his winging shots. I hope Pavlik learns alot from the film of this fight that he will keep his hands up -- work on his defense and clinching more -- especially when he is hurt. Notice how he never got rattled too much after the second round? Any clean shot with alot of speed can hurt you -- that's why Pavlik got hurt -- he fought a guy that had speed and good power.
I think if he studies the film and tightens up on his defense and keeps throwing MORE jabs setting up the right hand -- he'll beat almost any middleweight out their. Notice how Tommy Hearns fought Hagler and Sugar Ray. He danced when he was hurt or scared once he got hurt. Pavlik doesn't do that -- he stays flat footed and fights a very technical fight.
JETSKI
10-05-2007, 02:18 PM
Agree. That was a top display of finishing an opponent.
Wonder why - until recently - he has been a relative secret in the boxing world? :huh
Hate to say it, but "white men can't fight" is the general consensus. He really had to prove himself. Many, many times. Now, there is no doubt whatsoever.
emanuel_augustus
10-05-2007, 03:07 PM
The first jab-straight right hand did the damage. Then Taylor backed up a few steps, jab-right hand again. Taylor falls back into the ropes, and you're right, a beautiful flurry ended it.
The left uppercut did the most damage.
Very mature assault from Pavlik.
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