The Ten LEAST Intelligent Fighters Ever...

[cross_trainer]

Which top contenders seemed to have absolutely no ability to think in the ring?

This thread is dedicated to the unsubtle, unskilled fighters who couldn't adapt in the ring but nevertheless made it to the top. Who are they?

(By intelligence, I mean BOXING intelligence. This is about adaptability, not IQ)

[quiet man ruiz]

does bad disipline mean bad intelligence to you. you no. a fighter nos what to do but is mental.
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[cross_trainer]

does bad disipline mean bad intelligence to you. you no. a fighter nos what to do but is mental.

You mean like Ibeabuchi and Tyson's personal lives? Nah, I'm thinking more along the lines of when the fighters are in the ring. Like Taylor's refusal to listen to Steward, or Galento's unskilled brawling.

[djm]

Someone needs to mention him, so: Golata.

As for not listening to a corner, Litzau is a recent posterboy, but it might be too early to give him any sort of "all time" status.

Similarly, I don't know enough about Conn to say if his one massive miscalculation with Louis was enough to put him on such a list. I assume you're looking for more consistent gaffes such as the Foul Pole.

[quiet man ruiz]

no. not exacty. like taylors bad disipline ignoring trainer. though taylor might be unintelligent. fighters who no better but ignore better.

i think bad disipline. in ring. this thread is a bit about that. i think. disipline intelligence in ring the same?
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[Icemmann]

I'd add Zab Judah. Golota was a good mention.

[Cachibatches]

Lyachovich has the reputation of not listening.

Going way back to Tuesday Night Fight I remember Manny Steward saying to James Solarno "can I say one thing before you start talking."

Riddick Bowe hit after the bell at least once, causing a wild street fight gasint Elijah Tillery.

Anothony Hembrick dancing for 20 minutes and getting his ass kicked by Booker T Word.

Ah, the Tuesday memories.

Bert Cooper quitting any number of times.

[ChrisPontius]

Riddick Bowe hit after the bell at least once

.......During every fight. :yep

[young griffo]

Terry Norris was a brilliant fighter but he could be stupid beyond belief in the ring.
Whether it was his getting complacent after one round with possibly the hardest puncher ever in Julian Jackson,or making what should've been an easy fight against Troy Waters into a life and death slug-fest,Terry's lack of ring smarts are plain for all to see.
Add to these brain fades his silly game plan for the first Simon Brown fight or his ridiculous DQ losses to Luis Santana and you have a compelling case for Norris as the least intelligent fighter ever.

[Raggamuffin]

You mean like Ibeabuchi and Tyson's personal lives? Nah, I'm thinking more along the lines of when the fighters are in the ring. Like Taylor's refusal to listen to Steward, or Galento's unskilled brawling.

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[PowerPuncher]

The award has to goto Gatti the way hes there to be punched, doesn't cover his face, the way he trys to box Mayweather instead of pressuring the smaller man, thats if were talking prize fighters

Having said that Gatti has some skills - punch technique is excellent, he can even slip punches

I was think Mayorga but Mayorga fought a smart fight against Forrest in what he attacked if nothing else

But honestly the LEAST intelligent fighters dont get to fight on the world stage, you have to develop rings smarts of some sort to get on the world stage

[LeonMcS]

Originally Posted by Cachibatches
Going way back to Tuesday Night Fight I remember Manny Steward saying to James Solarno "can I say one thing before you start talking."
That is probably the funniest boxing quote I've ever heard. Cheers!

[Manassa]

I'd say Jess Willard was a bit of a simpleton.

[young griffo]

I'd say Jess Willard was a bit of a simpleton.
I would've thought he was just very,very ordinary.

Then again he kept getting up after Dempsey nearly killed him,which showed great heart but little common sense.

[OLD FOGEY]

I would've thought he was just very,very ordinary.

Then again he kept getting up after Dempsey nearly killed him,which showed great heart but little common sense.

Jack Sharkey was known as a guy who somehow managed to blow big fights with foolish mistakes in the ring. He turned away from Dempsey to complain to the referee. He blatently fouled Schmeling in a bout in which he got off to a quick start and was doing well. He also seems to have lost his head in the first Carnera bout when he dropped Carnera, but that one didn't cost him.

[young griffo]

Jack Sharkey was known as a guy who somehow managed to blow big fights with foolish mistakes in the ring. He turned away from Dempsey to complain to the referee. He blatently fouled Schmeling in a bout in which he got off to a quick start and was doing well. He also seems to have lost his head in the first Carnera bout when he dropped Carnera, but that one didn't cost him.
Sharkey was known to let his emotions get the better of him in the ring,which cost him a higher standing as a fighter.

[Manassa]

I would've thought he was just very,very ordinary.

He was. He didn't have the brains to use a full arsenal of punches or defend against the incoming.

[scartissue]

There are those who will jump all over me for this one, but Felix Trinidad fits the bill for the exact terminology of this thread. He is an all time great, a favorite of mine, but he simply had no plan 'B'. His plan 'A' normally controlled the fight but when things were slipping away (DeLaHoya, Hopkins, Wright) he just kept walking after his opponent with no change of plan. Maybe just poor corner work or ring prep, but very one-dimensional on his part. Again, he may have a tremendous IQ for all I know, but when things go awry one has to adapt.

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[Bigcat]

Al Cole always had too much to say.. too damn opinionated..

He had to let everyone hear what he wanted to say..

[Chaney]

Jack Sharkey was known as a guy who somehow managed to blow big fights with foolish mistakes in the ring. He turned away from Dempsey to complain to the referee. He blatently fouled Schmeling in a bout in which he got off to a quick start and was doing well. He also seems to have lost his head in the first Carnera bout when he dropped Carnera, but that one didn't cost him./I forget who said it, but there is a quote about Jack Sharkey: "He's the best fighter in the world...from the neck down."