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oibighead
01-06-2010, 11:33 AM
....they hadnt bumped heads (barrera stated bleading) ....

faisal
01-06-2010, 11:33 AM
no

ishy
01-06-2010, 11:35 AM
Yes, Barrera was/is well past his best and he has no business at Lightweight.

kosaros
01-06-2010, 11:36 AM
IMO, he would have.

anarci
01-06-2010, 11:45 AM
Yes, Barrera was/is well past his best and he has no business at Lightweight. Probably but i wouldnt rule out a Barrera comeback either. I disagree with your opinion on him fighting at lightweight if he would have made that move a couple years before he would have grabbed another title. I

GazOC
01-06-2010, 11:45 AM
Yes. MAB was too old and too small.

Harry Chibber
01-06-2010, 11:46 AM
I think MAB would have got to him in the later rounds and won

If there was a rematch now after Roach has had a year training him.. Khan would completely humiliate him IMO

slip&counter
01-06-2010, 11:51 AM
yes, enough said.

Addie
01-06-2010, 12:00 PM
Probably but i wouldnt rule out a Barrera comeback either. I disagree with your opinion on him fighting at lightweight if he would have made that move a couple years before he would have grabbed another title. I

Would have beaten Jesus Chavez decisively in 03.

Khan would have probably won regardless, but prime Marco spanks Khan like a little school girl.

Mazallan
01-06-2010, 12:11 PM
Yes Khan would have carried on his masterclass and stopped him within the next couple of rounds.

howarya
01-06-2010, 12:17 PM
everyone is saying yes because amir has gone on two win and defend a world title but i'm not so sure.at the time it was a very dodgy fight for amir

pauliewalnuts
01-06-2010, 12:18 PM
Think most fans know that Barrera was past it.

hagman1989
01-06-2010, 12:20 PM
MAB was to small and to old

i dont think hed ever seen speed like amir before

KCD
01-06-2010, 12:39 PM
I would say yes.

Barrera had no buisness at 135 and was past his prime.

But, he wasnt being hurt by Khans punches, flustered but not hurt, and also correct me if im wrong but when Barrera did land a punch solid on Khan it did register (cant remember the round).

But i do think given the finish they could have done it again.

KCD
01-06-2010, 12:40 PM
MAB was to small and to old

i dont think hed ever seen speed like amir before


Pacquaio:think

Top Dog
01-06-2010, 12:41 PM
MAB was to small and to old

i dont think hed ever seen speed like amir before

Aye cause he hadnt really fought anyone,right:-( I think Barrera could have beaten him if the clash of heads didnt happen

Blueboy
01-06-2010, 12:44 PM
The cut obviously played a part in proceedings but I think Khan would have walked it anyway.

Great matchmaking by FW & Dean Powell that one

ryanm8655
01-06-2010, 12:50 PM
Khan was going to win that fight anyway imo. That's why I didn't see it as that controversial, thought he was unlucky the clash of heads happened whilst others will probably say he was lucky. Barrera was past it and very fleshy.

trotter
01-06-2010, 02:27 PM
Yeah Khan would have won

Would have made hard work of it though, his confidence was still very fragile, but he'd have got home eventually

That wasn't the real MAB in there though was it... way past it, and way too small for Khan

onourway
01-06-2010, 02:41 PM
Would have beaten Jesus Chavez decisively in 03.

Khan would have probably won regardless, but prime Marco spanks Khan like a little school girl.

Prime Marco was still too small to beat Khan.

Sprint
01-06-2010, 02:43 PM
The cut shortened what would have been a relatively easy nights work. Khan was too big and too quick for a shopworn MAB.

Addie
01-06-2010, 02:43 PM
Prime Marco was still too small to beat Khan.

Take up golf.

LP_1985
01-06-2010, 02:50 PM
Take up golf.

:lol::lol:

it was always gona be interesting coz no1 was sure wat marco had left. im sure khan threw a 3 punch combo and marco ducked and slipped them with ease and after that came the cut. think khans leg buckled at 1 point in the fight to. think MAB wud have paced himself for the 12 rounds and took him out late on. both khans 12 rounders have been 1 way traffic. once marco started to land and take some out of khan he wudnt of lasted:bbb

onourway
01-06-2010, 03:23 PM
Take up golf.

His prime was at 122.

Khan's prime is going to be at 140.

Barrera ain't gonna beat Khan with such a disparity in size and weight. Not to mention speed. Bigger, stronger, faster - that's insurmountable.

sstevelcfc
01-06-2010, 03:34 PM
I think he probably would have won
but it was a disgrace that they let it go on until the fifth,it should have been stopped much earlier


if it was khan with the cut it would have been

KCD
01-06-2010, 04:04 PM
I think he probably would have won
but it was a disgrace that they let it go on until the fifth,it should have been stopped much earlier


if it was khan with the cut it would have been


Thats basically my problem with the fight.

Khan fought a perfect fight but the cut was no worse in the 5th round than it was when it originally happened.

It was as though the referee waited until the 5th to stop it...hence why i think a rematch could have been done.

Mookhound
01-06-2010, 04:39 PM
Yes, very easily. MAB too small and too old and sluggish.

We always seem to remember Khan's weaknesses, but not his strengths. He's very skilled, has a good dig and exceptional handspeed. That gives Khan a shot against anyone - let alone this version of MAB - glass jaw or no glass jaw. Ihat jaw also means that he loses silly fights as well, but he is very, very talented indeed. At that weight, even MAB in his prime probably wouldn't win.

GPater11093
01-06-2010, 04:44 PM
Amir Khan too fast for MAB at any stage of his career, hed do a Junior Jones.

eh, Addie?

Mookhound
01-06-2010, 04:48 PM
Amir Khan too fast for MAB at any stage of his career, hed do a Junior Jones.

eh, Addie?

With that speed I think Khan's a nightmare for any fighter, especially now Roach has reminded him of the fundamentals he showed as a quite brilliant amateur. Doesn't mean that they can't beat him.

punk
01-06-2010, 04:50 PM
I think it would have been better for Khan if the cut never happened. I think would have outboxed him for even longer and stopped him late legitimately.

Mookhound
01-06-2010, 05:00 PM
I think it would have been better for Khan if the cut never happened. I think would have outboxed him for even longer and stopped him late legitimately.

Totally

Addie
01-06-2010, 05:23 PM
His prime was at 122.

Khan's prime is going to be at 140.

Barrera ain't gonna beat Khan with such a disparity in size and weight. Not to mention speed. Bigger, stronger, faster - that's insurmountable.

Marco's prime was at 126lbs, and his skill set, overall talent, and toughness are several leagues above Khan, who's fought? NOBODY! Who's beat? Guess again, NOBODY!

Don't listen to GPater, he's a purist wannabe, who thought a one-sided brutal beating by Carbajal was the Hagler/Hearns of 108lbs. He's a lot of growing to do...hopefully in the common sense department.

Flea Man
01-06-2010, 05:26 PM
Marco's prime was at 126lbs, and his skill set, overall talent, and toughness are several leagues above Khan, who's fought? NOBODY! Who's beat? Guess again, NOBODY!

Don't listen to GPater, he's a purist wannabe, who fought a one-sided brutal beating by Carbajal was the Hagler/Hearns of 108lbs. He's a lot of growing to do...hopefully in the common sense department.

:lol: Bit harsh.

Surely the Hagler-Hearns of 108 is Chiquita-Carbajal 1:huh What did he say? Carbajal-Sosa? (ain't watched it yet to be fair so don't wanna comment)

Barrera's prime was clearly at 126. Technically astute, extremely ring savvy and measured in his approach, this version would beat the 122lb version at say, a 124lb catchweight:good

PH|LLA
01-06-2010, 05:29 PM
not so sure I like Khan but Barrera was starting to time him a little bit despite that nasty gash and all that blood. Take away that cut and i would probably give the edge to MAB

Flea Man
01-06-2010, 05:31 PM
not so sure I like Khan but Barrera was starting to time him a little bit despite that nasty gash and all that blood. Take away that cut and i would probably give the edge to MAB

Not really, he was being dominated.

Barrera was a bit too old, a bit too small, and no the cut didn't help. Personally don't think Barrera would be made for 135lbs at any stage of his career, but that isn't meant to detract from him at all. Khan was a big lightweight as well, and very fast.

The win means NOTHING for Khan's resume. It also means nothing for Barreras.

Addie
01-06-2010, 05:32 PM
:lol: Bit harsh.

Surely the Hagler-Hearns of 108 is Chiquita-Carbajal 1:huh What did he say? Carbajal-Sosa? (ain't watched it yet to be fair so don't wanna comment)

Barrera's prime was clearly at 126. Technically astute, extremely ring savvy and measured in his approach, this version would beat the 122lb version at say, a 124lb catchweight:good

Not to mention physically he was a lot stronger, and he didn't seem to lose much if any of his handspeed in my jugdment. It wasn't as pronounced because he didn't let his hands go as often as he would back down at 122lbs, but when he did, he has wonderful handspeed. Two of his greatest ever performances came at 126lbs, and two of his signature wins. The Barrera just before he stepped up to 126lbs was also a beast.

Carbajal vs Sosa is a BEATDOWN, Flea. NOT competitive...at all.

achillesthegreat
01-06-2010, 05:45 PM
definitely.

BoroBoxing1
01-06-2010, 06:04 PM
It would have certainly changed the way the fight planned out in the end but i think Khan would of still won the fight i dont think he would of got the stoppage though i think he would of got a wide unanimous decision, Although if Barrera landed early he probly would of KO'd Khan just like anybody else who lands on the chin of Amir Khan.

Mookhound
01-07-2010, 08:05 AM
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The win means NOTHING for Khan's resume. It also means nothing for Barreras.

Yes.

BIG WORM
01-07-2010, 09:11 AM
Yes Khan Would have won, Barerra did nothing to suggest he was getting anywhere in the fight, too slow, too small, and not good enough for King Khan !!

Govanmauler
01-07-2010, 09:55 AM
His prime was at 122.

Khan's prime is going to be at 140.

Barrera ain't gonna beat Khan with such a disparity in size and weight. Not to mention speed. Bigger, stronger, faster - that's insurmountable.

Precisely

gotta love MAB but he was a small FW against a guy who is a big LWW ( regardless of what they weighed in at ! ) and he was years past his best

Even peak for peak would be tough , it was almost comical how much bigger Khan was. Barrera was paid to be a name on a record that's all.

sstevelcfc
01-15-2010, 04:10 PM
Yes Khan Would have won, Barerra did nothing to suggest he was getting anywhere in the fight, too slow, too small, and not good enough for King Khan !!
not good enough ?

LP_1985
01-15-2010, 04:15 PM
Yes Khan Would have won, Barerra did nothing to suggest he was getting anywhere in the fight, too slow, too small, and not good enough for King Khan !!

:lol::lol:not good enough. if khan can achieved a 1/4 of what barrera has done id take my hat of to him

DOM5153
01-15-2010, 04:19 PM
Addie makes me laugh, khans prime weight will be at 147lb... but obviously if you look through the rose tinted glasses Barrera would KO him at that weight in the first

NO MAS
01-15-2010, 04:31 PM
The cut obviously played a part in proceedings but I think Khan would have walked it anyway.

Great matchmaking by FW & Dean Powell that one

I think that Khan would have won regardless...:yep

It was awesome to see MAB in my hometown... His reception outlined his place in Boxing History... He got a better reception than Khan...:yep

They rolled the dice with a name that was past it's best, not exactly a fight where Khan learnt a lot, but the Boxing fans in Great Britain got to see a true legend...:yep

p.Townend
01-16-2010, 08:04 AM
Yes Amir would have still won.Barrera was too old and was only brought in for his name.