View Full Version : Who Is The Smallest Boxer Ever Who You'd Pick To Beat Current Wlad 6+ Times Outta 10?
Haggis McJackass
10-01-2007, 08:12 AM
Muhammed Ali?
Joe Louis?
Joe Frazier?
Evander Holyfield?
Who is the smallest, by weight or height? Tyson? Or do you think someone like Marciano could do it?
:hat
MrMagic
10-01-2007, 08:14 AM
Add Floyd Mayweather Jr
:rofl:rofl:rofl He would get blasted beyond recognition
SteveO
10-01-2007, 08:33 AM
Out of that list, Ali gets my pick.
Thinking Louis-Carnera somewhat makes me think Louis could do it, but Wlad is no Carnera (thankfully for him).
Marnoff
10-01-2007, 09:03 AM
Tyson, if you're thinking height.
carras
10-01-2007, 09:06 AM
tyson
McGrain
10-01-2007, 09:44 AM
Very intereseting.
Gene Tunney would be a borderline pick. Around 190.
I think that Marciano and Louis would both find him difficult stylistically, but Louis is not a bad pick.
Dempsey is an excellent shout. I'll go for Demspey.
Strike
10-01-2007, 09:55 AM
Baby Jake Matlala.
rydersonthestorm
10-01-2007, 09:59 AM
I say joe louis would be the smallest, i say the likes of dempsey and marciano p4p would destroy wlad but i think they were just to small to face a man his size, with his boxing skills and power (even though wlad has a pretty weak chin), so i think louis has the skills to do it. Tyson would be the shortest but smallest and shortest are two different things.
McGrain
10-01-2007, 10:02 AM
Would anyone pick Micheal Spinks?
fadeintobolivia
10-01-2007, 10:55 AM
Marciano and Tyson
SteveO
10-01-2007, 10:58 AM
Would anyone pick Micheal Spinks?
I thought about it. And I'm still thinking. He may be a good canidate but when i think Michael Spinks the first thought that comes to mind is his fight with Tyson. Have to review some of his other fights.
rydersonthestorm
10-01-2007, 11:01 AM
I don't know how anyone can say tyson he is not a samll guy he is a short guy there is a big difference between the two.
Fedor Em
10-01-2007, 11:05 AM
Probally Holyfield, Dempsey and Marciano. I just can't see Moore, Charles, Tunney, or Spinks beating Wlad 6 outta 10 times.
dangerousity
10-01-2007, 11:44 AM
Tyson was 220 prime, I pick him. I think Wlad KO's Dempsey, Louis & Marciano.
warrior85
10-01-2007, 11:46 AM
the rock&iron mike,ali would rule wlad aswell
Stezzie
10-01-2007, 11:47 AM
Muhammed Ali?
Joe Louis?
Joe Frazier?
Evander Holyfield?
Who is the smallest, by weight or height? Tyson? Or do you think someone like Marciano could do it?
:hat
Ali was 6'3 and had just as long of a reach as Wlad...he is not much smaller...not like any of these other guys
McGrain
10-01-2007, 11:49 AM
Tyson was 220 prime, I pick him. I think Wlad KO's Dempsey, Louis & Marciano.
What about Frazier, Liston, Ali, Holmes and Foreman? All of these guys weighed less than 220 on their best nights.
McGrain
10-01-2007, 11:49 AM
Ali was 6'3 and had just as long of a reach as Wlad...he is not much smaller...not like any of these other guys
His best weight was around 210 though. He weighed less than some of the names being bandied about.
errsta
10-01-2007, 11:51 AM
Smokin' Bert Cooper
dragosuhail
10-01-2007, 12:03 PM
tyson at peak could but ONLY if his body shots worked their magic on wladimir's torso. and while i can see him ko'ing my fav fighter with chin shots, i am not so sure he could get to wladimir's torso enough to double wladimir over enough to expose the chin. remember tyson next to wladimir is very short and just as important, very short reach.
wladimir is peaking and his footwork is getting quicker and smoother by the fight. if he stayed away for 6 rounds while dropping bombs on tyson, he could beat tyson. but i do reckon tyson is the smallest/shortest fighter who could beat wladimir. any other short/small heavy would get picked apart by a peak wladimir.
remember tyson at his peak was most successful when he threw many bodyshots in order to double over/slow his often times taller opponents so he could leverage his awesome hook and uppercut power. if the few he got in on wladimir didn't hurt enough, then he is doomed.
and to date i've never really seen wladimir react in a obvious and painful way to bodyshots. the ONLY time i ever saw something close to a painful bodyshot was the one lamon brewster threw at him. however in light of their first and second fight, my suspicions that wladimir was ill in that fight are more solidfied. so if wladimir was perfectly fine, would that brewster shot hurt? i doubt it very much.
so while tyson would be the smallest fighter to beat wladimir if he connected on the chin a couple times, it would all come down to his bodywork. and i just cant see wladimir laying on the ropes, or giving tyson the slight iota of a chance at ANY moment in the fight. wladimir would move even more than he did against peter. and being smaller than peter tyson could sneak in punches during clinches, so i would imagine wladimir would simply keep on the move and never allow tyson to get setup.
cross_trainer
10-01-2007, 12:06 PM
Dempsey, though he's an exception. Almost every other fighter who could beat Wlad is over 200 lbs.
Max Molyneux
10-01-2007, 01:10 PM
Add Floyd Mayweather Jr
Are you one of Floyd's entourage?
I'd say prime Tyson. Tyson's pressure and head movement would do It.
Wonder how angry Tyson would get If Wlad did his excessive holding though!
Stinky gloves
10-01-2007, 01:18 PM
Pavlik
ChampionsForever
10-01-2007, 02:09 PM
Joe Frazier has everything in he's arsenal to demolish Wlad.
BewareofDawg
10-01-2007, 02:13 PM
Probally Holyfield, Dempsey and Marciano. I just can't see Moore, Charles, Tunney, or Spinks beating Wlad 6 outta 10 times.
Marciano? Are you kidding me? :lol:
That guy was so small, and fought against guys as small as him. I thought the seminar has already happened on this board on this subject. Marciano had power....yes. But who was he hitting? He fought like 2 guys in his entire career over 210lbs :deal and one was an old Joe Louis. there is absolutely not proof or even reason to believe he hit as hard as Peter, Brewster, Sanders...or even Brock. Wlad is 6'7" 245lbs and much more athletic than the 5'10" Rocky Marciano :patsch This would be a slaughter. Wlad KO2....if it goes that far. :deal
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