Haye on Tua: "I can definitely see a showdown somewhere in the future"

[kosaros]

David Haye has declared that a fight with David Tua is something that "Definitely interests him" in the future.

The New Zealand native known as 'The Terminator' nowadays stands with a record of 50-3 with 46 of those fights coming by brutal knockout.

Tua's famous knockout over Haye's next opponent, John Ruiz, is still receiving thousands of hits a week on youtube despite the fight being several years ago.

Regarded as one of the worst knockout defeats in a championship bout, many observers that night were worried for Ruiz as he lay motionless following the huge shots that Tua threw in the opening moments of their 1996 WBC heavyweight title fight.

"He has been inactive for the last couple of years, but he has come back with a great win over Shane Cameron." said the new WBA heavyweight champion.

"He had a good victory there and blasted him out of the water. Shane Cameron is a club level fighter, but if Tua can keep going the way he is going, I can definitely see a showdown somewhere in the future" said Haye.

[LP_1985]

look at his body language with his throat and that. im a big fan of haye but tua is some1 id be looking to avoid. big props if he does tho

[Mazallan]

If Tua can beat another couple of decent fighters then this fight would be ok to see.

[RichT]

I'd love to see Tua in a couple of fights in quick succession early this year before squaring off against Arreloa in the Autumn. Winner faces Haye if he's still WBA Champ late Winter. Would be explosive stuff!

[safc1990]

This would be a fantastic fight and one which would only increase my love of all-things Haye. He knows his chin is suspect so he targets probably the biggest one-punch puncher in the HW division. :happy

[Bodysnatcher]

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[theuppercut]

Haye to finish it in three.

[DOM5153]

i think Haye would tee off on Tua

[IntentionalButt]

Club level fighter Shane Cameron would have a good shot at knocking Haye out. :deal

Tua doing so is a lock.

[achillesthegreat]

I want to see Tua and Rahman settled their rivalry once and for all. Two controversial fights.

[achillesthegreat]

No point for this fight. Haye should ko Ruiz brutally and then sign to fight the Klits. Nothing else need be done. IF he could win those 3 fights then enjoy retirement.

[kidgloves]

Heres the interview from the GF

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[bronze_bandit]

...this would be a right matchup....... Haye is obviously looking at all prospective challengers!?

[JIM KELLY]

tua v adamek!

[hit me HARDER]

1996 WBC Heavyweight Championship fight?

[brown bomber]

Tua could beat all but Vlad, Vitali and Haye without much difficulty. He might chin Vlad too.

[Beeston Brawler]

That's a bold statement.

Tua has had one fight in God know's how long!

[KCD]

Tua could beat all but Vlad, Vitali and Haye without much difficulty. He might chin Vlad too.


If he can get to Wlads chin then he certainly can get to Hayes chin.

Tua needs to fight a legitimate top 10 fighter, perhaps Arreola, Povetkin or someone of that ilk.

[TFFP]

Doesn't make any sense in 2010. Tua is high risk and low reward. Even if Haye won which is doubtful people would say Tua has been inactive and only beat a club fighter.

[cubex]

That's a bold statement.

Tua has had one fight in God know's how long!

Truth is Haye hasn't been that active either.

[TFFP]

Truth is Haye hasn't been that active either.
Are you named after a guitar amp or is this just coincidence?

[cubex]

Are you named after a guitar amp or is this just coincidence?

Coincidence.:D

Big fan os the cube movies.

[Losfer_Words]

Are you named after a guitar amp or is this just coincidence?

How long you been playing, TFFP?

[TFFP]

How long you been playing, TFFP?
Since the start of high school when I had myself down as a badass rocker. About 9 years on and off but I've got playing again regularly.

Gibson Flying V > Mesa Dual Rec and it smokes :smoke

[Axl_Nose]

look at his body language with his throat and that. im a big fan of haye but tua is some1 id be looking to avoid. big props if he does tho

Tua ?? I cant even believe we are even discussing this guy .. Take a look at 'The Formidable' David Tua in his prime against Lennox Lewis, he couldnt land a shot, he had no boxing fundamentals, he just looked for the left hook, he had nothing at the top level 10 years ago and hes got even less now, if Haye even looks at this fight he should be ashamed of himself .. Chris Arreola would be a far tougher test and hes ultra limited ..
I could never understand the hype involving Tua, people in the media and a certain section of fans always liked to compare him to Tyson but that comparison is ridiculous .. He lost against Ike Ibeabuchi who was another guy who could 'stand and fight' but had zero boxing and moving fundamentals, (i actually had Tua drawing that fight, he came strong in the later rounds for me) ..

How can you say Haye should avoid Tua ?? What has Tua ever done, ever acheived in boxing ?? Apart from being exposed as totally 1 dimensional ..

The whole Tua myth is based on 'That Left Hook', it doesnt compare to Frazier's .... He was a 'coulda been, shoulda been' kind of guy but the fact is, hes the equivalent of Sam Peter, a totally limited fighter .... I remember buying into the hype when he fought Lewis, i bought that PPV and i saw Tua totally embarrassed, not because Lewis was stellar but because that fight showed Tua had absolutely nothing in the way of boxing ability, Lewis jabbed the whole fight and defended the left hook with his right hand. It was one of Lewis's easiest fights, Lennox had a tougher time with Zeljko Mavrovic ....

Tua is only operating now because the Heavys are so weak, both Klits would have an easy night with him and Haye would have an easy night with him .... He was a C Level fighter then and he's a C Level fighter now .. Tua was a myth, fight fans in the '90s were sure that they'd found the next Frazier, the next Tyson .. But he was soon exposed ..

[Losfer_Words]

Since the start of high school when I had myself down as a badass rocker. About 9 years on and off but I've got playing again regularly.

Gibson Flying V > Mesa Dual Rec and it smokes :smoke

:yep:good I've been playing for just over 8 years myself. Now I've finally got some money coming in again, I'll be getting a brand spanking new Spider IV in the next few weeks:happy.

As for this thread, I hope people realise that they aren't talking about the Tua of the 90s and early 00s. Lets see him against a genuine opponent before we all start getting too excited. Tua's power is unquestionable, but let's keep things in perspective.

[TFFP]

:yep:good I've been playing for just over 8 years myself. Now I've finally got some money coming in again, I'll be getting a brand spanking new Spider IV in the next few weeks:happy.

As for this thread, I hope people realise that they aren't talking about the Tua of the 90s and early 00s. Lets see him against a genuine opponent before we all start getting too excited. Tua's power is unquestionable, but let's keep things in perspective.
Why the Spider just out of interest? Maybe the IV series is better but IMO there is much better choices in the same class and price bracket.

I mean if you want that convenience of a modelling amp I'd rather have a Peavey Vypyr. My friend has the 30W version and it actually does a fairly decent impression of higher end rock amps keeping in mind I've got the real deal of the Rec that it models.

Vox VT series are the best modelling amps for anything up to but not including heavy metal IMHO. They just don't have enough gain for the really heavy stuff but short of that they are easily the most realistic and natural sounding.

[Axl_Nose]

Since the start of high school when I had myself down as a badass rocker. About 9 years on and off but I've got playing again regularly.

Gibson Flying V > Mesa Dual Rec and it smokes :smoke

TFFP, lets forget about boxing for a moment .. Who do you have as the greatest guitarist of all time .. Take out Hendrix, heres my top 5 ..

1. Jimmy Page
2. Slash
3. Eric Clapton
4. Brian May
5. Jeff Beck

Its gotta be Jimmy Page in the dragon suit with Led Zeppelin, Page has to be the ultimate 'Rock God' ....

[Axl_Nose]

Tua could beat all but Vlad, Vitali and Haye without much difficulty. He might chin Vlad too.

Your dreaming, Arreola would take Tua, Roy Jones could 'STILL' step up in a few months and beat Tua, Hopkins could step up and take Tua ..... Tua is shite, he'd still beat Chisora, Fury, Skelton, Sexton and all our domestic fat bums though ....

If you guys are pinning your hopes on Tua 'lighting up' the division, your gonna be disappointed, i'd put money on Sam Peter beating him and i think Peter is an awful fighter ..

[TFFP]

TFFP, lets forget about boxing for a moment .. Who do you have as the greatest guitarist of all time .. Take out Hendrix, heres my top 5 ..

1. Jimmy Page
2. Slash
3. Eric Clapton
4. Brian May
5. Jeff Beck

Its gotta be Jimmy Page in the dragon suit with Led Zeppelin, Page has to be the ultimate 'Rock God' ....
I wouldn't have Jimi as my number 1 anyway. He's the best musician but on a pure technical level I don't think he's as good as Jimmy Page. I agree with that choice.

My other choices would probably be Clapton, Van Halen, Stevie Ray Vaughn and Randy Rhoades in no particular order. I don't know much about the great jazz players so I'm probably doing them a disservice.

[Losfer_Words]

Why the Spider just out of interest? Maybe the IV series is better but IMO there is much better choices in the same class and price bracket.

I mean if you want that convenience of a modelling amp I'd rather have a Peavey Vypyr. My friend has the 30W version and it actually does a fairly decent impression of higher end rock amps keeping in mind I've got the real deal of the Rec that it models.

Vox VT series are the best modelling amps for anything up to but not including heavy metal IMHO. They just don't have enough gain for the really heavy stuff but short of that they are easily the most realistic and natural sounding.

Simply because the distortion packs a punch and solos with a lot of gain on them remain crisp. The clean settings are sexy as hell as well. I had a Marshall in the past and that is the worst amp I have ever had the misfortune of both buying and owning. My mate has a really nice Vox that I've enjoyed playing, but the tube takes ages to kick in and in order to get a good crunch out of it he feeds it through an effects pedal. I'm not the sort of person who pisses about too much with effects to be honest, although I do like some light echo when playing clean, so I don't care about any other settings that come with the amp. I've also owned a very nice little Fender practice amp in the past but, after a few years of playing, the fucker packed up:lol:.

The Spider seems a tidy amp and, going by what I've played in the past, seems the best option for the type of music I play. Another one of my mates owns a III series and swears by it and I've read many reviews that corroborate what he says as well. After I buy my new car I'm aiming to get a Gibo SG as well.

What's the Mesa like? I'm hoping to get a Mesa head for a cab sometime in the future, but not anytime soon.

[Beeston Brawler]

I'd say Stevie Wonder is the best musician.....

[TFFP]

Simply because the distortion packs a punch and solos with a lot of gain on them remain crisp. The clean settings are sexy as hell as well. I had a Marshall in the past and that is the worst amp I have ever had the misfortune of both buying and owning. My mate has a really nice Vox that I've enjoyed playing, but the tube takes ages to kick in and in order to get a good crunch out of it he feeds it through an effects pedal. I'm not the sort of person who pisses about too much with effects to be honest, although I do like some light echo when playing clean, so I don't care about any other settings that come with the amp. I've also owned a very nice little Fender practice amp in the past but, after a few years of playing, the fucker packed up:lol:.

The Spider seems a tidy amp and, going by what I've played in the past, seems the best option for the type of music I play. Another one of my mates owns a III series and swears by it and I've read many reviews that corroborate what he says as well. After I buy my new car I'm aiming to get a Gibo SG as well.

What's the Mesa like? I'm hoping to get a Mesa head for a cab sometime in the future, but not anytime soon.
You prob played a Marshall MG, Marshall solid state amps are woeful and well behind the competition in that class. They only trade on that Marshall badge. Of course the Mesa is amazing, you largely get what you pay for in amps. It cost me about 1000, I'm not a huge fan of my Flying V though because I bought it on an impulse as I love the style forgetting how uncomfortable it is to play sitting down.

Don't get me wrong the Spider does have a heavy distortion. It just sounds so digital to my ears, but then again thats the beauty of music if you like it...it ain't gonna matter what anybody else thinks. Another point is forget about getting any individuality from your guitar on a spider, it leaves no room for that because the signal is so digitalized. So in that sense its a really short term amp you'll probably tire of when you see its lack of versatility and true tone, and when you want your new guitar you'll realize the amp is handicapping your tone on your brand spanking Gibson SG.

I'd highly reccomend at least trying the Peavey Vypyr 15 if you like to play heavy. That is a heavy metal voiced modelling amp for the same price, it actually models the sounds on real amps like the Mesa Dual Rec, JSX, XXX, Krankenstein on the heavy side and the Fender Twin, Deluxe and others for clean:

Checkout all parts of this guys review and be sure to try it in the shop to see if you prefer it to the Spider :good

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[Losfer_Words]

You prob played a Marshall MG, Marshall solid state amps are woeful and well behind the competition in that class. They only trade on that Marshall badge. Of course the Mesa is amazing, you largely get what you pay for in amps. It cost me about 1000, I'm not a huge fan of my Flying V though because I bought it on an impulse as I love the style forgetting how uncomfortable it is to play sitting down.

Don't get me wrong the Spider does have a heavy distortion. It just sounds so digital to my ears, but then again thats the beauty of music if you like it...it ain't gonna matter what anybody else thinks. Another point is forget about getting any individuality from your guitar on a spider, it leaves no room for that because the signal is so digitalized. So in that sense its a really short term amp you'll probably tire of when you see its lack of versatility and true tone, and when you want your new guitar you'll realize the amp is handicapping your tone on your brand spanking Gibson SG.

I'd highly reccomend at least trying the Peavey Vypyr 15 if you like to play heavy. That is a heavy metal voiced modelling amp for the same price, it actually models the sounds on real amps like the Mesa Dual Rec, JSX, XXX, Krankenstein on the heavy side and the Fender Twin, Deluxe and others for clean:

Checkout all parts of this guys review and be sure to try it in the shop to see if you prefer it to the Spider :good

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Cheers for that, mate:good. I've never played a Peavey before (heard plenty live, though), but this is quite an interesting option. As I say, I'm just after a new practice amp, but from the vid this amp seems quite tasty:think. I think I'll try it out down Reverb in the centre now as well thanks:good.

[TFFP]

Cheers for that, mate:good. I've never played a Peavey before (heard plenty live, though), but this is quite an interesting option. As I say, I'm just after a new practice amp, but from the vid this amp seems quite tasty:think. I think I'll try it out down Reverb in the centre now as well thanks:good.
No probs mate. Should run you about £85 according to Google for the 15W, might be a little more in a shop but I suppose the Spider is the same price. I think you'll find its a little more articulate than the Spider, it has more definition and clarity but very heavy too, its more for metal than cleans but the cleans are passable. I've been around both, every fucker has a Spider and my mate has the 30W version of the Vypyr and it wins hands down. Peavey made a quality offering for those on a budget. Just make sure you get warranty because I've heard of a few reliability issues flying around.

[Axl_Nose]

I wouldn't have Jimi as my number 1 anyway. He's the best musician but on a pure technical level I don't think he's as good as Jimmy Page. I agree with that choice.

My other choices would probably be Clapton, Van Halen, Stevie Ray Vaughn and Randy Rhoades in no particular order. I don't know much about the great jazz players so I'm probably doing them a disservice.

Randy Rhodes, yeah thats a great pick .. Forgot about him ..

[hit me HARDER]

Randy Rhodes, yeah thats a great pick .. Forgot about him ..

How the fuck could you forget about him? Arguably the best British performance of 2009, by a fucking mile in my eyes.

[hit me HARDER]

I can play the theme tune to Thundercats with a Kazoo inserted into my anus.

[G.A.V.]

Tua needs to earn the shot, really. Saying that, Haye's not exactly #1 ranked in the Heavyweight division before he fought Valuev.

[icemax]

tua v adamek!

Am I the only person on here who thinks that Adamek looks average? Why the love-in?

**Tua would kill him

[hit me HARDER]

It's Adamek's ears. Unless he pins them back he will never look like a Heavyweight, they're just too big.

[icemax]

It's Adamek's ears. Unless he pins them back he will never look like a Heavyweight, they're just too big.

Ear Growth Hormone :deal I knew the cunt was juicing.

[hit me HARDER]

Ear Growth Hormone :deal I knew the cunt was juicing.

dUNNO IF IT'S GROWTH HORMONE BUT IT'S SOMETHING COSMETIC. cHECK THE LOBES ON iVANA tRUMP.


Arrrrgh I am TOO DRUNK to correct that capitalisation mistake. There should be a button to fix that shit in one swoop.

One push = capital;s to lower case. Fuck.

[TheUnstoppable]

TFFP, lets forget about boxing for a moment .. Who do you have as the greatest guitarist of all time .. Take out Hendrix, heres my top 5 ..

1. Jimmy Page
2. Slash
3. Eric Clapton
4. Brian May
5. Jeff Beck

Its gotta be Jimmy Page in the dragon suit with Led Zeppelin, Page has to be the ultimate 'Rock God' ....

Define "greatest".

[Losfer_Words]

Define "greatest".

That's the best thing that can be said here. The criteria is always subjective and is quite pointless, IMHO. He's basically just asking 'who are your favourite 5 guitarists' as opposed to asking for a definitive list free of bias; it's an impossible list to make anyway, it isn't like sport where you can get a decent measure of someone's 'greatness' by assessing their achievements.

[Diablo]

Tua would be a very dangerous fight for Haye. I cant see David being able to do a Lewis/Byrd decison job on him. He might manage it for 9 rounds then Tua does what he has done to many others.

Tbh though its not a fight he needs so I cant see it happening. If an interviewer puts you on the spot and asks you about a possible Tua fight..whats he supposed to say? Its a lose lose situation where I might get ko'd.

[TheUnstoppable]

That's the best thing that can be said here. The criteria is always subjective and is quite pointless, IMHO. He's basically just asking 'who are your favourite 5 guitarists' as opposed to asking for a definitive list free of bias; it's an impossible list to make anyway, it isn't like sport where you can get a decent measure of someone's 'greatness' by assessing their achievements.

True, for example he rates those 5 as his "best" 5, while personally I hate four of them, and the 5th (Brian May) I only enjoy because I love Queen!

[janitor]

Tua could beat all but Vlad, Vitali and Haye without much difficulty. He might chin Vlad too.

What makes you think that Tua can still be a force at world level?

It isnt a gime by any means.