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well do any of u have any disagreements on who should have won it what year or who was unfairly awarded it in what year?
My dinner with Conteh
10-01-2007, 01:32 PM
Throughout the 1970s when Nat Loubet was editor, most decisions were criminal. Heavyweights won 8 years out of 10 in the 1970s. Bag of shite.
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10-01-2007, 01:39 PM
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1976 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - George Foreman ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
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1978 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Muhammad Ali ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
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1980 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Thomas Hearns ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
1981 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Sugar Ray Leonard ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) & Salvador Sanchez ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
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Manassa
10-01-2007, 01:43 PM
Throughout the 1970s when Nat Loubet was editor, most decisions were criminal. Heavyweights won 8 years out of 10 in the 1970s. Bag of shite.
Yep. Muhammad Ali in 1978? For losing and winning the title to a novice? :huh
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10-01-2007, 01:48 PM
Muhammad Ali winning in 1978 was a joke. Sure he made history by being the first 3-time HW champ....by going 1-1 against a guy with 8 pro fights. Other guys were more deserving, like Larry Holmes, Roberto Duran, Alexis Arguello (his L was better than losing to a novice) and countless others.
I would've chosen Manny Pacquiao in 2003 over James Toney.
Giving it to Manny Pacquiao last year for beating 3 guys coming off of defeats was kind of iffy to me. I don't know who else I would've given it to though.
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10-01-2007, 01:50 PM
Donald Curry deserved sole possession of the award in 1985, instead of co-awards with Marvin Hagler.
You gotta fight more than one time to get Fighter of the Year, IMO.
Michael Spinks was more deserving of the co-award than Marvin.
I only saw Wilfred Benitez's win over Antonio Cervantes in 1976, not his other two wins that year, but it would appear that he was more worthy of the award than George Foreman.
Manassa
10-01-2007, 01:59 PM
It's sad that Archie Moore never got a Fighter of the Year award, despite boxing over four different decades. I'd definitely have given it to him instead of Rocky Marciano in '54.
Shake
10-01-2007, 02:03 PM
Duran never got one?
Roberto Duran arguably should have gotten it despite the "No Mas", it's sad how a controversial performance can be responsible for overlooking an amazing one
mcvey
10-01-2007, 03:07 PM
Roberto Duran arguably should have gotten it despite the "No Mas", it's sad how a controversial performance can be responsible for overlooking an amazing one
Well its a bit more than "contraversial",he quit,for whatever reasons ,he quit,you cant give the guy an award the same year he turns his back on his opponent and swallows it.The fact that it wasDuran that did it smehow mitigated him in the publics eues,this Manson like ,manic 5 7 ball of aggression,many other fighters would have been scorned for good,whether you ,think he redeemed himself or not is a personal opinion,but whether he quit for fear of the humiliation he was in for ,or he had a physical problem,,and no one has suggested that he was afraid ofLeonard ,the man still quit.
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10-01-2007, 03:31 PM
Roberto Duran arguably should have gotten it despite the "No Mas", it's sad how a controversial performance can be responsible for overlooking an amazing one
Come on, the guy quit, disgracefully.
It wasn't merely "controversial", he quit in the 8th round of a competitive fight when he was getting frustrated.
My dinner with Conteh
10-01-2007, 03:32 PM
Yep. Muhammad Ali in 1978? For losing and winning the title to a novice? :huh
The far superior (back then) mags that were Boxing News and Boxing Illustrated gave their 1978 awards to Pipino Cuevas and Wilfredo Gomez respectively.
My dinner with Conteh
10-01-2007, 03:35 PM
Roberto Duran arguably should have gotten it despite the "No Mas", it's sad how a controversial performance can be responsible for overlooking an amazing one
Maybe not 1980, but a tie with Marv in 1983 would have been a good verdict, or even 1978. He was a lock for the 89 award i'd say until the 'Uno Mas' fiasco just before Christmas.
TBooze
10-01-2007, 05:04 PM
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I did not think The Ring gave its Fighter of the year award until 1928?
TBooze
10-01-2007, 05:21 PM
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1984 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Thomas Hearns ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Hearns banner year, but I would like to see Pedroza given recognition in a tie.
1985 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Marvin Hagler ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) & Donald Curry ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) -Hagler/Hearns was great and Curry was in his pomp, but Camacho deserved the fighter of the year.
1986 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Mike Tyson ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Nelson deserved recognition, Tyson was not quite there yet.
1987 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Evander Holyfield ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Tyson walked it, Chavez second, Leonard third and Holyfield fourth.
1988 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Mike Tyson ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Chavez deserved the tie
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1993 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Michael Carbajal ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Whitaker should of won
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10-01-2007, 06:11 PM
1980 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Thomas Hearns ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Duran No mas or not
1981 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Sugar Ray Leonard ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) & Salvador Sanchez ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Agree
1982 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Larry Holmes ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Agree
1983 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Marvin Hagler ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - tie with Pryor
1984 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Thomas Hearns ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Hearns banner year, but I would like to see Pedroza given recognition in a tie.
1985 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Marvin Hagler ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) & Donald Curry ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) -Hagler/Hearns was great and Curry was in his pomp, but Camacho deserved the fighter of the year.
1986 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Mike Tyson ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Nelson deserved recognition, Tyson was not quite there yet.
1987 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Evander Holyfield ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Tyson walked it, Chavez second, Leonard third and Holyfield fourth.
1988 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Mike Tyson ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Chavez deserved the tie
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1990 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Julio César Chávez ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Douglas deserved the tie
1991 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - James Toney ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Chavez and Whitaker edged out Toney
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1993 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Michael Carbajal ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Whitaker should of won
1994 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Roy Jones Jr. ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Agree
1995 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Oscar de la Hoya ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Jones and Whitaker were ahead of de la Hoya
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1999 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Paulie Ayala ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Nice touch, but 1999 was Lewis' year.
Duran's performance in New Orleans, similar to Douglas against Holyfield, was too terrible. At least make a real effort to win, don't quit because you're frustrated, or in the case with Douglas, quit during training camp and look for a nice spot on the canvas to lie on.
James Toney's 1991 win over p4p entrant Michael Nunn, along with defenses against contenders/recently stripped champs Johnson and McCallum (I thought Toney won both), made him more deserving of FOTY than Chavez beating guys like Lonnie Smith and Duplessis, or Pea's defenses over Diaz, Jones, and Paez.
Whitaker may have had a case in 1995 by winning a title in his 4th weight class over Vasquez, but Jones? For beating Paz, Byrd, and Thornton?
Dempsey1238
10-01-2007, 06:21 PM
It's sad that Archie Moore never got a Fighter of the Year award, despite boxing over four different decades. I'd definitely have given it to him instead of Rocky Marciano in '54.
But the Rock had 2 thrilling fights with Charles. I dont think Moore did anything compare to the cut nose comeback, and the points victory to get the honor over the Rock.
TBooze
10-01-2007, 06:32 PM
Duran's performance in New Orleans, similar to Douglas against Holyfield, was too terrible. At least make a real effort to win, don't quit because you're frustrated, or in the case with Douglas, quit during training camp and look for a nice spot on the canvas to lie on.
The brilliance of their initial performances were such, that they deserved recognition.
James Toney's 1991 win over p4p entrant Michael Nunn, along with defenses against contenders/recently stripped champs Johnson and McCallum (I thought Toney won both), made him more deserving of FOTY than Chavez beating guys like Lonnie Smith and Duplessis, or Pea's defenses over Diaz, Jones, and Paez.
Whitaker was in his pomp, and everyone knew it, Chavez was the driving force of the sport; Toney was too hit and miss in 91.
Nunn was beating him for 11 rounds, Johnson would go on to prove himself a fair challenge to anyone, but at the time Toney was considered to of disappointed. McCallum had seen better days, and still deserved at least a draw against boxings new superstar IMO.
Whitaker may have had a case in 1995 by winning a title in his 4th weight class over Vasquez, but Jones? For beating Paz, Byrd, and Thornton?
Jones peaked in 1995, sure it was not against the best opposition, but at the time the superfights seemed just around the corner. I guess it shows how damning Jones career was. Arguable the only fighter who has come along who could of matched up to Robinson, and yet he peaked beating the likes of Antonio Byrd...
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10-01-2007, 06:48 PM
The brilliance of their initial performances were such, that they deserved recognition.
Whitaker was in his pomp, and everyone knew it, Chavez was the driving force of the sport; Toney was too hit and miss in 91.
Nunn was beating him for 11 rounds, Johnson would go on to prove himself a fair challenge to anyone, but at the time Toney was considered to of disappointed. McCallum had seen better days, and still deserved at least a draw against boxings new superstar IMO.
Jones peaked in 1995, sure it was not against the best opposition, but at the time the superfights seemed just around the corner. I guess it shows how damning Jones career was. Arguable the only fighter who has come along who could of matched up to Robinson, and yet he peaked beating the likes of Antonio Byrd...
Fighter of the Year is more about accomplishments and achievements in a given year. Jones may have peaked in 1995, but Oscar beat better opposition, therefore he won Fighter of the Year.
Nunn was winning on points against Toney until the KO, but it's no shame in being behind to the heavily favored Nunn, and Toney did a good job of getting to Nunn in the previous 2-3 rounds before landing that perfect left hand. I can't remember if it was Ring or KO, but I remember them saying they had decided before Toney-McCallum that the winner would be Fighter of the Year. It was ruled a draw, but they had Toney ahead 115-114, so he won Fighter of the Year.
Toney's dissapointing performances were more in 1992, with a dubious decision over Tiberi and a close debatable decision (I thought Mccallum won) in the return bout with McCallum.
Manassa
10-01-2007, 07:07 PM
Hagler was more deserving than Duran for '80.
Manassa
10-01-2007, 07:10 PM
But the Rock had 2 thrilling fights with Charles. I dont think Moore did anything compare to the cut nose comeback, and the points victory to get the honor over the Rock.
Moore beat Maxim & Johnson for the title - both (particularly Johnson) more of a threat to Moore's championship than Charles was to Marciano's. For good measure, Moore whacked a heavyweight contender as well, Baker. In hindsight, it seems knocking out Whitehurst was a fair achievement too, since Liston couldn't do it in two attempts.
Dempsey1238
10-01-2007, 09:18 PM
Well Moore beat Maxim for the title in 52. So I dont think that can count for his 54 run.
Well your useing highsight for Whitehurst, no one though he would give Liston the problems he did nearly 5 years down the road. Lets not foget that Charles DID beat Johnson, though he was robbed. Also lets rember Charles was 3-0 vs Moore by 54. I belive Marciano Earn that fighter of the year in 54. with the wars he stage vs Charles.
My dinner with Conteh
10-02-2007, 04:26 AM
"Moore, Moore in 54." :happy
redrooster
10-02-2007, 08:44 AM
1978-Arguello
1980-Hagler
1981 should have been a three way tie because of Hagler's domination of Hamsho
1982-Dwight Braxton/Mustafa Hamsho
1984 was the year of Livingstone Bramble and no one but.
1991-Terry Norris
My dinner with Conteh
10-02-2007, 09:59 AM
1978-Arguello
1981 should have been a three way tie because of Hagler's domination of Hamsho
No.
redrooster
10-02-2007, 10:19 AM
No.
That's your opinion.
I see it this way; Mustafa won 31 straight and beating Hamsho took a major effort on Marvin's part. it was also the performance of the year.
Arguello was 1978's fighter of the year with his second title and he didn't really lose to Fernandez who was just running and refused to fight. you can't even call it boxing.
Manassa
10-02-2007, 10:21 AM
Well Moore beat Maxim for the title in 52. So I dont think that can count for his 54 run.
Well your useing highsight for Whitehurst, no one though he would give Liston the problems he did nearly 5 years down the road. Lets not foget that Charles DID beat Johnson, though he was robbed. Also lets rember Charles was 3-0 vs Moore by 54. I belive Marciano Earn that fighter of the year in 54. with the wars he stage vs Charles.
Your logic is fucked.
TBooze
10-02-2007, 02:13 PM
Fighter of the Year is more about accomplishments and achievements in a given year. Jones may have peaked in 1995, but Oscar beat better opposition, therefore he won Fighter of the Year.
There is a lot of politics in The Ring fighter of the year, sometimes it benefits them to declare a winner, before their time (Tyson in 86: Ali/Clay in 63), and sometimes a fighter is rewarded because he is the figurehead of a cause (Carbajal; brought mainstream attention to 108ers: Ayala: A figurehead of the skilled but light punching and non mainstream boxers that help keep the sport going.)
So although Jones did not have a banner year in 95; he was clearly in his peak, and could of quite easily been given the honour...
Drew101
10-02-2007, 04:03 PM
Duran certainly deserved to win the award in 1978 for unifying the title against Dejesus in the rubber match. Wilfredo Gomez (who defeated Zarate) would also have been a good choice.
Carbajal was deserving of the award in 1993, and, I'd say Ayala was deserving of the award in 1999.
scartissue
10-04-2007, 10:58 AM
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scartissue
10-04-2007, 10:58 AM
[quote=Erratic Behavior]1960 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Floyd Patterson ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
1961 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Joe Brown ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
1962 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Dick Tiger ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
1963 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Cassius Clay ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
1964 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Emile Griffith ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
1965 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Dick Tiger ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
1966 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - No award was given
1967 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Joe Frazier ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
1968 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Nino Benvenuti ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
1969 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Jose Napoles ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
1970 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Joe Frazier ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
1971 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Joe Frazier ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
1972 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Muhammad Ali ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) & Carlos Monzon ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
1973 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - George Foreman ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
1974 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Muhammad Ali ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
1975 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Muhammad Ali ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
1976 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - George Foreman ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
1977 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Carlos Zarate ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
1978 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Muhammad Ali ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
1979 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Sugar Ray Leonard ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
1980 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Thomas Hearns ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
1981 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) - Sugar Ray Leonard ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) & Salvador Sanchez ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
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Here's where I differ,
'58 - Hogan Kid Bassey
'59 - Gene Fullmer
'60 - Eder Jofre
'61 - Gene Fullmer
'62 - Emile Griffith
'63 - Joey Giardello
'64 - Emile Griffith
'65 - Nino Benvenuti
'66 - Muhammad Ali
'67 - Vicente Saldivar
'68 - Lionel Rose
'71 - Ruben Olivares
'72 - Ali (solely)
'73 - Antonio Cervantes
'76 - Victor Galindez
'77 - Shengsak Muangsurin
'78 - Wilfredo Gomez
'80 - Salvador Sanchez
'81 - Leonard (solely)
'82 - Wilfredo Gomez
Ring did put too much stock in heavies and achievement (winning a title a 2nd or 3rd time) over accomplishment.
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