Where does Pavlik rank amongst historical middleweight champs?

[Rumsfeld]

Frankly, it's clear to me that Pavlik trumps all others. What he lacks in accomplishment, he more than makes up for in skills, strength, and heart. In any case, any shortcomings in the actual accomplishment category shall inevitably be overcome. Here's how I'd rank Pavlik amongst past greats from the middleweight division.

1. KELLY PAVLIK
2. Marvin Hagler
3. Carlos Monzon
4. Bernard Hopkins
5. Gene Fullmer
6. Ray Robinson
7. Mickey Walker
8. BoBo Olson
9. Jake LaMotta
10. Jermain Taylor

What do you guys think of this impeccable list? :smoke

[JC2006]

I think it's a sad attempt at a joke.

[mancat]

Frankly, it's clear to me that Pavlik trumps all others. What he lacks in accomplishment, he more than makes up for in skills, strength, and heart. In any case, any shortcomings in the actual accomplishment category shall inevitably be overcome. Here's how I'd rank Pavlik amongst past greats from the middleweight division.

1. KELLY PAVLIK
2. Marvin Hagler
3. Carlos Monzon
4. Bernard Hopkins
5. Gene Fullmer
6. Ray Robinson
7. Mickey Walker
8. BoBo Olson
9. Jake LaMotta
10. Jermain Taylor

What do you guys think of this impeccable list? :smoke

I think it's April Fool's day.:hi:

[Rumsfeld]

I think it's a sad attempt at a joke. Go fuck yourself with a rusty drill bit. :smoke

[KhanB]

Sad but true. Some people were desperate for a hero. I like Pavlik but this is ridiculous whats happening on these boards lately.

[pioterbezkitu]

I think that someone shoudl stop making whorish threads

[Stezzie]

Frankly, it's clear to me that Pavlik trumps all others. What he lacks in accomplishment, he more than makes up for in skills, strength, and heart. In any case, any shortcomings in the actual accomplishment category shall inevitably be overcome. Here's how I'd rank Pavlik amongst past greats from the middleweight division.

1. KELLY PAVLIK
2. Marvin Hagler
3. Carlos Monzon
4. Bernard Hopkins
5. Gene Fullmer
6. Ray Robinson
7. Mickey Walker
8. BoBo Olson
9. Jake LaMotta
10. Jermain Taylor

What do you guys think of this impeccable list? :smoke

I think you should stop smoking his cock and watch what you are typing...

[Rumsfeld]

Skills, strenghth, heart, and complexion. :rofl

[Stinky gloves]

Pavlik definitely is on good way to be the No1.

He TKO the most dangerous puncher in the division: Miranda.
He TKO unbeaten, Ollimpic gold medalist, conqueror of Hopkins: Taylor

What he need to do to be the No1 is beat Abraham and unify most of the titles then beat Taylor
in the rematch and beat at least one more recognized name: Sturm, Spinks or Karmazin.
Then if he move on unbeaten to upper division and get one of the belts he will be No1 all time midlleweight.

[the_what]

Skills, strenghth, heart, and complexion.

:lol:

[Asterion]

He's not going to be Top50 because he's moving to 168 soon.

[Brickhaus]

Pavlik KO 1 Godzilla

[MrStayman]

I think people should learn the difference between serious threads and joke threads.

[klion22]

Pavlik versus God?

Pavlik by KO in 2.

[the_what]

Pavlik should be the next Captain America.

[Asterion]

Sumbu Kalambay > Kelly Pavlik :deal

[Stinky gloves]

Pavlik may be the next president of US, Taylor not!

[brownpimp88]

Well he beat Jermain Taylor and whether you want to admit it or not, JT has done more than guys like alan minter, vito antuofermo, hugo corro, tony zale, rocky graziano and hes better than marcel cerdan and bobo olson. If pavlik makes 5 successfull title defenses, that should put him in the top 10 middleweights of all times. I mean how many times did lamotta, ketchel, cerdan and fullmer really defend the belt, and people like to consider them as greats.

[KhanB]

Seriously, I wouldn't put Pavlik at the top spot this quick, but He definitely could be considered in the Top 10. If he wasn't, than that is saying that Jermaine Taylor Sucks ass, the guy who beat hopkins twice and drew with winky....

To a lot of people Taylor didnt beat Hopkins or Wright. Thats the reason why Taylor couldnt duck Pavlik if he wanted to. If Pavlik hadnt of knocked JT out, he wouldve been added to the "Bad Decisons" crew too.

[Mrvooh]

Pavliks' record is tops, but he is still pretty darn young, and at this stage of the career, it's too early to tell. See how he does his next match for the defense, and maybe a few after that.

[andyZOR]

Sad but true. Some people were desperate for a hero. I like Pavlik but this is ridiculous whats happening on these boards lately.

I agree. Thats why Im tryiong to stay away from a while, while this board cools off.

[jaycuban]

This is gotta be a joke... i think hes kidding people take it easy on him.

[brooklyn1550]

1. Harry Greb
2. Marvin Hagler
3. Carlos Monzon
4. Bernard Hopkins
5. Sugar Ray Robinson
6. Stanley Ketchel
7. Marcel Cerdan
8. Charley Burley...

100. Kelly Pavlik

[andyZOR]

This is gotta be a joke... i think hes kidding people take it easy on him.

I hope hes kidding.

[acb]

Skills, strenghth, heart, and complexion.

You just hate to see the white man on top, eh Jack?

[Ramshall1]

way too early for this kinda question . . . great great win for the young champion - a star is born, he's another win like this away from superstar status.

[Darien]

Frankly, it's clear to me that Pavlik trumps all others. What he lacks in accomplishment, he more than makes up for in skills, strength, and heart. In any case, any shortcomings in the actual accomplishment category shall inevitably be overcome. Here's how I'd rank Pavlik amongst past greats from the middleweight division.

1. KELLY PAVLIK
2. Marvin Hagler
3. Carlos Monzon
4. Bernard Hopkins
5. Gene Fullmer
6. Ray Robinson
7. Mickey Walker
8. BoBo Olson
9. Jake LaMotta
10. Jermain Taylor

What do you guys think of this impeccable list? :smoke
Lol... Rumsfeld, I swear I love your threads! It's about time to attach words like "mighty" or "demi-god" to Pavlik's name, don't you think? By the way, does Kelly have Polish origins? His name sounds like that. Or is it rather Czech?

[Dorfmeister]

You are waaaaaaay over the Top but it's understable, Kelly knocked out both top 160-pounders Taylor and Miranda by the mid-stage as an underdog, he's 25 years old and he's 32-0, 29 KOs, he's looking at the sky right now, I like him, cool, sober, short-spoken, clear-sighted individual, hell of a fighter, wish him plenty of luck and will support him.

[psychopath]

Frankly, it's clear to me that Pavlik trumps all others. What he lacks in accomplishment, he more than makes up for in skills, strength, and heart. In any case, any shortcomings in the actual accomplishment category shall inevitably be overcome. Here's how I'd rank Pavlik amongst past greats from the middleweight division.

1. KELLY PAVLIK
2. Marvin Hagler
3. Carlos Monzon
4. Bernard Hopkins
5. Gene Fullmer
6. Ray Robinson
7. Mickey Walker
8. BoBo Olson
9. Jake LaMotta
10. Jermain Taylor

What do you guys think of this impeccable list? :smoke

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Too early to talk about that. So far he has fought and defeated only two tough and rough opponents.

Way out of line. :yep

[rydersonthestorm]

I think he should fight mr t and chuck norris before we declare him the goat.

[McGrain]

Nowhere. He's not in the top 100 at a guess.

He never will be as he's 168 bound (if he's smart).

[cross_trainer]

Frankly, it's clear to me that Pavlik trumps all others. What he lacks in accomplishment, he more than makes up for in skills, strength, and heart. In any case, any shortcomings in the actual accomplishment category shall inevitably be overcome. Here's how I'd rank Pavlik amongst past greats from the middleweight division.

1. KELLY PAVLIK
2. Marvin Hagler
3. Carlos Monzon
4. Bernard Hopkins
5. Gene Fullmer
6. Ray Robinson
7. Mickey Walker
8. BoBo Olson
9. Jake LaMotta
10. Jermain Taylor

What do you guys think of this impeccable list? :smoke

You are an evil man.