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shommel
01-11-2010, 09:50 AM
which fish flops first?
Sardu
01-11-2010, 10:05 AM
Cooney in one round... Mcneely really had no business being a professional boxer - poor guy.
mr. magoo
01-11-2010, 10:16 AM
Not sure what you meant by the expression " which fish flops first? " If we're calling anyone a flopper, then the only one that it may possibly apply to is McNeely. Gerry Cooney on the other hand, was no flopper, and frankly he'd beat McNeely in what would most likely be a mismatch.
lefthook31
01-11-2010, 11:42 AM
Cooney in one round... Mcneely really had no business being a professional boxer - poor guy.
McNeely sucked, but who else ever fought Mike Tyson like that?
This goes out to Moe Larry and curly...:lol:
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anarci
01-11-2010, 12:17 PM
You obviously dont know much about Cooney, other than the old White hope disrespectful jokes that people make of him.. Hed Ko Haye thats for sure and Id even make him close to even money against Wlad.
Cooney ko 1 Mcneely
Vantage_West
01-11-2010, 12:28 PM
cooney is pretty big heavy has a dinamite left hook and would of fought with better competition. mcneeley has NOTHING over cooney. maybe ego and arrogance but apart form that i dont see anythign happning. tyson dropped him with a counterpunch. i doubt mcneeley gets passed 2. cooney jabs and drops a left hook to the chin which sends kev to the floor he gets up and wham gets dropped and cockroached.
tommy morrison- cooney is a better matchup prolly
anarci
01-11-2010, 12:34 PM
cooney is pretty big heavy has a dinamite left hook and would of fought with better competition. mcneeley has NOTHING over cooney. maybe ego and arrogance but apart form that i dont see anythign happning. tyson dropped him with a counterpunch. i doubt mcneeley gets passed 2. cooney jabs and drops a left hook to the chin which sends kev to the floor he gets up and wham gets dropped and cockroached.
tommy morrison- cooney is a better matchup prolly Yes this is a better matchup but Cooney still smokes Morrison too. Except Morrison might make it to the 3rd.
mr. magoo
01-11-2010, 01:13 PM
The difference that needs to be outlined here, is that Gerry Cooney was a serious contender with REAL ability, whereas Peter McNeeley was more of a club fighter type. Cooney dispatched several men who were of McNeely's discription with relative ease such as Phil Brown, Eddie Gregg, and John Denis.. In fact, some of those guys might even have been a tad better.
Vantage_West
01-11-2010, 03:12 PM
Yes this is a better matchup but Cooney still smokes Morrison too. Except Morrison might make it to the 3rd.
true but he is the only GWH who made some real noise.
but i think morrison's understated boxing skills might set up some oppertunity's that some fighters couldnt do. a jab, left hand, right cross might stagger the defencivly loose cooney.
Sardu
01-11-2010, 03:54 PM
McNeely sucked, but who else ever fought Mike Tyson like that?
This goes out to Moe Larry and curly...:lol:
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True LH! He had no talent but was too brave for his own good!
Rico Spadafora
01-11-2010, 05:01 PM
Jesus Christ people Cooney would murder McNeely. It would be a slaughter.
anarci
01-11-2010, 07:19 PM
true but he is the only GWH who made some real noise.
but i think morrison's understated boxing skills might set up some oppertunity's that some fighters couldnt do. a jab, left hand, right cross might stagger the defencivly loose cooney.
Cooney made a lot more noise than Morrison,No one ever gave Morrison a chance against the Holyfields,Bowes,and Lewisses he had his trip ups also getting kod by Mercer,Bennt, and quite a few tough fights with journeyman.
Cooney on the other hand was undeafeated and blew past everyone he fought on the way up including Norton,Young,Lyle(although past it but still big names) Many people thought that hed upset Holmes for the title, where as not to many gave Morrison a chance against Lewis.
Morrison was succeptible to being caught early, and those were Cooneys best rounds. If they were in the same era id clean up on anyone that thought Morrison would take this.
anarci
01-11-2010, 07:21 PM
The difference that needs to be outlined here, is that Gerry Cooney was a serious contender with REAL ability, whereas Peter McNeeley was more of a club fighter type. Cooney dispatched several men who were of McNeely's discription with relative ease such as Phil Brown, Eddie Gregg, and John Denis.. In fact, some of those guys might even have been a tad better. Gregg,Denis,and Brown were leagues above Mcneely lot more than a tad better. Mcneely would not make it past 4 rounds with any of those guys. Gregg and Brown were legit top 20 guys and Denis was a solid journeyman.
Mcneely was more LIKE cLUBFIGHTER STATUS.
lefthook31
01-11-2010, 07:35 PM
Gregg,Denis,and Brown were leagues above Mcneely lot more than a tad better. Mcneely would not make it past 4 rounds with any of those guys. Gregg and Brown were legit top 20 guys and Denis was a solid journeyman.
Mcneely was more LIKE cLUBFIGHTER STATUS.
No he was below club fighter status. He was knocked out by Butterbean for crying out loud.
anarci
01-11-2010, 07:43 PM
No he was below club fighter status. He was knocked out by Butterbean for crying out loud.
Yes you are correct , Clubfighter was being nice but then again a clubfighter could mean anywhere from a good tougman fighter(dont like to use the term bum) to a halfway decent fighter. Mcneeley falls somewhere in between but closer to Good toughman competitor.
lefthook31
01-11-2010, 07:44 PM
Yes you are correct , Clubfighter was being nice but then again a clubfighter could mean anywhere from a good tougman fighter(dont like to use the term bum) to a halfway decent fighter. Mcneeley falls somewhere in between but closer to Good toughman competitor.
I know Im joking, he was definitely a club fighter. :lol:
lefthook31
01-11-2010, 07:48 PM
Ill just add again you gotta give the dude credit. He knew he had no chance but he played the promotion pretty well and did the kamikaze on Tyson something noone had done before.
Ill even go so far to say it exposed Tyson a bit in his comeback, because he looked a little unsettled in that fight, and Buster Mathis did the exact same thing and gave Tyson hell for three rounds. In fact I would go so far as to say both McNeely and Mathis showed more balls than Bruno and Seldon!!
anarci
01-11-2010, 07:52 PM
Ill just add again you gotta give the dude credit. He knew he had no chance but he played the promotion pretty well and did the kamikaze on Tyson something noone had done before.
Ill even go so far to say it exposed Tyson a bit in his comeback, because he looked a little unsettled in that fight, and Buster Mathis did the exact same thing and gave Tyson hell for three rounds. In fact I would go so far as to say both McNeely and Mathis showed more balls than Bruno and Seldon!! Agreed:good Mcneely showed a lot of HUEVOS in that fight,and tried his best at hitting the lotto, unlike a skilled fighter like Seldon who folded up.
Always liked Mathis skills even though he was a fat boy with no punch. If he had some power i think he could have been a legit contender.
clark
01-11-2010, 07:55 PM
Cooney by K.O. faster than Tyson.
dbouziane
01-11-2010, 08:54 PM
"i am going to wrap mike tyson in a cacoon of horror"
i think it was his fight v. akinwande (sp?)...i happened across the fight on tv and saw mcneeley coming to the ring to the mission impossible theme song looking a complete mess. even when consumption hadnt gotten the better of him he still really wasnt anything worth writing home about. i'm young (comparitivley) but from what ive seen of cooney this is laughable.
Mr Butt
01-12-2010, 06:49 AM
cooney ko no longer than the 2nd round
Boxed Ears
01-12-2010, 08:10 AM
The thread's existence alone seems like a complete ignorance of or disrespect for Cooney.
McNeely isn't even a poor man's Cooney. Peter McNeely isn't even a poor man's version of TOM McNeely, ffs.
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zadfrak
01-13-2010, 04:23 AM
Match should be McNeely vs. Don Steele. You had both of those guys building up impressive results on paper in regional fights. I think Dickie Ryan was another as well, up to the Klitschko fight.
Vantage_West
01-13-2010, 10:10 AM
bobby gunn against macca
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