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Chief_Second
10-01-2007, 01:27 PM
anyone got a clip of the pavlik knockdown? the reports say he was hurt pretty bad but want to judge for myself.

thanks in advance

Motor City Sam
10-01-2007, 01:32 PM
I don't have a clip, but the reports are correct IMO. He looked hurt bad. I was surprised he made it out of the round.

I liked his comment in the interview after the fight. Merchant asked him what he was thinking when he got knocked down and Kelly replied, "I thought 'Sh*t, this is going to be a long night' ".

Chief_Second
10-01-2007, 01:35 PM
it's nearly impossible to see this fight in the uk!!!! only seen r7 thus far

JETSKI
10-01-2007, 01:39 PM
The initial left hand that hurt Pavlik went right to his toes. That punch alone wouldn't have dropped him. But KP tried to taunt & showboat after that & thats when he got caught with a couple of more shots that caused him to slump to the canvas as he was holding onto Jermain.

Kelly's Pop & Jack Lowe have to have a long talk with Kelly about that taunting BS. That shit has got to stop...yesterday!!!

Darthmage
10-01-2007, 01:39 PM
Here is the link... youtube seems to be down atm but I guess wait a bit and you'll be able to see it.

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boxfan99
10-01-2007, 01:41 PM
You guys can get the entire fight on this link, but I think you have to register first.

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Remove the space.

marting
10-01-2007, 01:42 PM
He was definitely hurt bad and part of it was because he got caught while trying to feign not being hurt. That stunt damn near cost him the fight.

But to his credit he provided one of the most glaring examples of toughness I've ever seen. He got up and was still visibly wobbly but managed to get through another minute or so without going down again.

I too loved that quote when Merchant asked what was going through his mind while on the canvas. That was a classic.

kg0208
10-01-2007, 01:43 PM
Oh he was hurt....he was hurt the rest of the round. If Taylor knew how to finish, Pavlik would have been done in round 2.

Darthmage
10-01-2007, 01:44 PM
You're exactly right! I caught that too...

He got hit a couple times then put his hands down and was trying to stick out his tongue or talk some shit or something and then got NAILED with several shots and went down. If he would have kept his hands up and backed up after that initial barrage of punches, he would have never went down.

He needs to chill with the showboating b/c it will eventually cost him.

The interesting part is that he doesn't seem like the showboat kinda guy. He is really down to earth and humble during his interviews so for him to do that and get caught was almost a guaranteed thing.

Motor City Sam
10-01-2007, 02:06 PM
He was definitely hurt bad and part of it was because he got caught while trying to feign not being hurt. That stunt damn near cost him the fight.

But to his credit he provided one of the most glaring examples of toughness I've ever seen. He got up and was still visibly wobbly but managed to get through another minute or so without going down again.

I too loved that quote when Merchant asked what was going through his mind while on the canvas. That was a classic.

I have not been a Pavlik fan as he has beaten two fighters I like the past year (Bronco Mckart and Miranda) but I liked him a lot more after watching some of his interviews and seeing some of that behind the scenes stuff. Plus, he's a guy from a tough Midwestern town, so we have that in common. :D He certainly has made a believer out of me when it comes to his ability. I thought he was overrated after the McKart win.

Chief_Second
10-01-2007, 02:06 PM
Here is the link... youtube seems to be down atm but I guess wait a bit and you'll be able to see it.

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thanks man - worked a treat!

Darthmage
10-01-2007, 02:08 PM
thanks man - worked a treat!

no problem!

Chief_Second
10-01-2007, 02:18 PM
on reflexion, pavlik can take a serious shot - taylor landed some bombs!!!!!

wtf with trying to tant taylor in the middle of getting his face smashed in?

El Bombasto
10-01-2007, 02:20 PM
he was definitely badly hurt, and for some reason didn't bother clinching after he was initially rocked. he took several clean power shots because of that

bachatu
10-01-2007, 02:26 PM
Pride. often fighters won't clinch and smile or do other crap after getting rocked that is out of their character (when they are not hurt) to try to cover up that they are really hurt. Big George Foreman always said that when boxers smile after getting hit means the opposite.
Some guys do the same thing even after getting knocked down they nod their head like that aint anything, im fine, yet their legs are jello...anyone recall when Briggs was getting rocked by Lewis, he kept smiling and knoding his head throughout the fight when he would get rocked.

joito3
10-01-2007, 02:26 PM
Pavlik looked like Cotto did against Torres !

jsimps
10-01-2007, 02:27 PM
Kelly was without a doubt hurt from that shot. He got "cute", he got caught. I bet he won't do that again. I think he was trying to entice Taylor into slugging with, however bad timing.

bachatu
10-01-2007, 02:33 PM
Wow just saw a clip to the Torres/Cotto fight, ive never seen him get rocked like that....woah...

alex-boxer42
10-01-2007, 02:41 PM
I saw it and it pissed me off at first. me and my buddy paid for that shit and he almost gave taylor the fight. but in the end it made for an even better fight, an kelly still won, and know hes a lot wiser.

On another note I think someone should change taylor's nickname to quick temper, i honestly think taylor got pissed off at his putting his hand down and taunting him that he immediatly tried to knock him out. thats why the punches were so sudden and brutal. to taylor's discredit, he didnt keep his cool and gave kellys gift back.

peter5
10-01-2007, 02:57 PM
it's nearly impossible to see this fight in the uk!!!! only seen r7 thus far

I watched it on sky sports, the whole fight, about 4am!

reed_man02
10-01-2007, 03:16 PM
Pavlik looked like Cotto did against Torres !

Pavlik was worse. I thought for sure the fight was over. I think taylor was too tired to finish Pavlik because Pavlik was done.

Jersey Boxer
10-01-2007, 03:21 PM
The initial left hand that hurt Pavlik went right to his toes. That punch alone wouldn't have dropped him. But KP tried to taunt & showboat after that & thats when he got caught with a couple of more shots that caused him to slump to the canvas as he was holding onto Jermain.

Kelly's Pop & Jack Lowe have to have a long talk with Kelly about that taunting BS. That shit has got to stop...yesterday!!!

oh dont worry jetski he learned his lesson and wont do that one again, if u notice he didn't do it for the rest of the fight, he had his hands up at all times...he knows he fucked up...and hes a quick learner...

alex-boxer42
10-01-2007, 03:28 PM
Im sure embarasment of that one moment will singlehandedly transform his defense and kill his taunting bullshit. Hes an A level fighter now, and there is no room for bullshit. If i were him, I would shudder at the thought of that knockdown, I mean, that should have been pretty embarassing.

swedeone
10-01-2007, 03:31 PM
I think, for whatever reason, Kelly thought that Jermain couldn't hurt him. The showboat, stick your mug out shit was plain stupid and he was real lucky it didn't lose him the fight. He would have been haunted by that for a very long time. I am a huge Pavlik fan and my heart was in my throat. I was in stunned disbelief. Thank God he road out the storm and got his legs back.