Biggest punchers between these 6 Heavyweights

[anarci]

These guys in my opinion are all just one tier below the biggest punchers ever give me you listings on these guys

Cooney
Ruddock
Lewis
Bonecrusher
Wlad
Fraizer

There are some other guys but these are the ones that came to mind. Put them in order and at the end im gonna do a point system and see how it came out.

[PetethePrince]

Before I try doing this. I'm wondering what your top tier biggest punchers are. And where Morrison and Marciano end up.

[Boxed Ears]

These guys in my opinion are all just one tier below the biggest punchers ever give me you listings on these guys

Cooney
Ruddock
Lewis
Bonecrusher
Wlad
Fraizer

There are some other guys but these are the ones that came to mind. Put them in order and at the end im gonna do a point system and see how it came out.

In terms of just pure brute strength:

Lewis
Ruddock
Wlad
Cooney
Bonecrusher
Frazier

...The more I think about this, the more I want to jumble the order up completely. Just forget I said anything.

[anarci]

Before I try doing this. I'm wondering what your top tier biggest punchers are. And where Morrison and Marciano end up. Morrison is about a couple guys down from here but he could hit thats for sure but a slight notch down from these guys.


As for Marciano well PFP hes one of the greatest PFP punchers ever but i just dont think a 185lb Marciano hit as hard as these guys.

Might sound like Boxing Sacrilige but im a realist.

[bodhi]

These guys in my opinion are all just one tier below the biggest punchers ever give me you listings on these guys

Cooney
Ruddock
Lewis
Bonecrusher
Wlad
Fraizer

There are some other guys but these are the ones that came to mind. Put them in order and at the end im gonna do a point system and see how it came out.

What do you mean? One punch?

Lewis
Wlad
Ruddock
Bonecrusher
Cooney
Frazier

[Mendoza]

These guys in my opinion are all just one tier below the biggest punchers ever give me you listings on these guys

Cooney
Ruddock
Lewis
Bonecrusher
Wlad
Fraizer

There are some other guys but these are the ones that came to mind. Put them in order and at the end im gonna do a point system and see how it came out.


I would say

Lewis
Wlad
Cooney
Bonecrusher
Ruddock
Frazier

[lefthook31]

These guys in my opinion are all just one tier below the biggest punchers ever give me you listings on these guys

Cooney
Ruddock
Lewis
Bonecrusher
Wlad
Fraizer

There are some other guys but these are the ones that came to mind. Put them in order and at the end im gonna do a point system and see how it came out.
Lewis
Wlad
Ruddock
Crusher
Cooney
Frazier

[anarci]

What do you mean? One punch?

Lewis
Wlad
Ruddock
Bonecrusher
Cooney
Frazier
Yes one punch and I think Cooney is being underrated so far, Foreman said he has never been hit harder.

[anarci]

Before I try doing this. I'm wondering what your top tier biggest punchers are. And where Morrison and Marciano end up. Ok i forgot to answer your biggest puncher question:think Actually its pretty tough as far as order but id include guys (in no particular order)

SHavers
Foreman
Tyson
Liston
Tua
Louis,Marciano great punchers but i dont think they hit quite hard as the bigger hw of the modern era(altough close)

Many other guys like Big Cat,Bowe who maybe should have been on that 2nd tier list.


In fact Bowe is someone i should have included on the thread as i think he is about on these guys league

[lefthook31]

Yes one punch and I think Cooney is being underrated so far, Foreman said he has never been hit harder.
Yeah but Foreman was never hit by Lewis and Wlads righthand, which were and are huge. Emanuel Steward says Wlad hits harder than Lewis but I just go by what I see in fights.

[Boxed Ears]

Ok i forgot to answer your biggest puncher question:think Actually its pretty tough as far as order but id include guys (in no particular order)

SHavers
Foreman
Tyson
Liston
Tua
Louis,Marciano great punchers but i dont think they hit quite hard as the bigger hw of the modern era(altough close)

Many other guys like Big Cat,Bowe who maybe should have been on that 2nd tier list.


In fact Bowe is someone i should have included on the thread as i think he is about on these guys league

I don't know. I wouldn't really argue if someone put Tyson and Louis in the same league as far as punching power. Call me crazy. I know Louis was significantly lighter than Tyson but I call him a harder p4p puncher and probably enough so to make it pretty even there. But as far as just brute strength is concerned, I'm not sure Tyson should really be with Liston, Foreman, Shavers and Tua.

[Boxed Ears]

Yeah but Foreman was never hit by Lewis and Wlads righthand, which were and are huge. Emanuel Steward says Wlad hits harder than Lewis but I just go by what I see in fights.

Honestly, I can see how Wlad is faster than Lewis and his punches might land differently with the tick of extra speed...but I can't really see him punching harder than Lewis either. Lewis has more of a clubbing power to me.

[lefthook31]

Honestly, I can see how Wlad is faster than Lewis and his punches might land differently with the tick of extra speed...but I can't really see him punching harder than Lewis either. Lewis has more of a clubbing power to me.
I think youre right its a speed thing but its probably what Steward sees in the gym. Wlad is a bit faster than Lewis, but Lewis would commit more to the righthand when he threw it, which makes it more powerful.

[lefthook31]

As far as Tyson, he was most effective throwing his punches in combination. He may be the hardest hitting combination puncher of all time, but I agree his one punch power is not anywhere near the top of the list.

[bodhi]

As far as Tyson, he was most effective throwing his punches in combination. He may be the hardest hitting combination puncher of all time, but I agree his one punch power is not anywhere near the top of the list.

I say it´s Louis. Tyson is up there though. As is Dempsey.

[anarci]

I don't know. I wouldn't really argue if someone put Tyson and Louis in the same league as far as punching power. Call me crazy. I know Louis was significantly lighter than Tyson but I call him a harder p4p puncher and probably enough so to make it pretty even there. But as far as just brute strength is concerned, I'm not sure Tyson should really be with Liston, Foreman, Shavers and Tua. PFP i agree with you and i think Louis is a top 3or 4 PFP ever, but for some reason i seem to think that around 210 to 215 is the minumum weight for the huge punchers in the heavyweight division. In my opinion Louis best weight was 200 tops. I know there are lot of arguments to this but i have always had this opinion in my head.... Not gonna chage it now:lol:

[Boxed Ears]

I hear you, anarci. But I do think about him flat out leveling the likes of Klitschko-sized Buddy Baer and I just think he was in Tyson's range punch for punch-not Foreman, Shavers and the like though. I agree with LH though about Tyson being maybe the hardest combination puncher and maybe Louis was a notch below on that account. Tyson was machine in his youth. I'll give this one more thought. I might come around to you on it.

[Boxed Ears]

I think youre right its a speed thing but its probably what Steward sees in the gym. Wlad is a bit faster than Lewis, but Lewis would commit more to the righthand when he threw it, which makes it more powerful.

Not that anyone would have a better view than Steward but I do wonder if maybe there's the influence of what's most recent here. He's spent so much time with Wlad since LL retired and everything is so much fresher in his mind with him, maybe it's clouding his judgement on it a bit. Or even he might be being overly complimentary about the guy he's still going to be working with.

Wlad's obviously a big, big puncher but I'm trying to picture Lennox hitting Sultan Ibragimov with this same shot, and then trying to see Sultan not get knocked down with a broken nose and showing up later in a neck brace. :yep

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[lefthook31]

Yes, but look how Wlad is delivering that punch. Hes almost throwing it like you would throw a straight lead right at distance. Contrast that to this righthand where Lewis steps in and to the side with his full weight behind it.

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[ChrisPontius]

As far as Tyson, he was most effective throwing his punches in combination. He may be the hardest hitting combination puncher of all time, but I agree his one punch power is not anywhere near the top of the list.

Tyson has as many one-punch KO's as any champion. How is his one-punch power not at the top?

[mcvey]

These guys in my opinion are all just one tier below the biggest punchers ever give me you listings on these guys

Cooney
Ruddock
Lewis
Bonecrusher
Wlad
Fraizer

There are some other guys but these are the ones that came to mind. Put them in order and at the end im gonna do a point system and see how it came out.

Lewis
Ruddock
Cooney
Klitschko
Smith
Frazier

[anarci]

I see that some of the posters are not bothering to rank these guys in order,instead arguing about other big punchers

This thread is just about these punchers! I already got anoter order of the greatest punchers.

[lefthook31]

Tyson has as many one-punch KO's as any champion. How is his one-punch power not at the top?
Such as who? Most of his opponents were finished by a series of punches. Besides maybe Spinks and Botha, who else was knocked out by single shots? He wasnt a champion when he fought Botha either.

[BOGART]

Lewis
Wlad
Ruddock
Cooney
Smith
Frazier

[ChrisPontius]

Such as who? Most of his opponents were finished by a series of punches. Besides maybe Spinks and Botha, who else was knocked out by single shots? He wasnt a champion when he fought Botha either.

Off the top of my head, the following men were KO'd by one punch:

1. Berbick
2. Tillman
3. Botha
4. Spinks
5. Tubbs
6. Ettiene
7. C. Williams

All of whom were either champions, contenders or fringe contenders. Now, i'm not including tomato cans, but if you will, you can leave out the fringe contenders, leaving:


1. Berbick
2. Botha
3. Spinks
4. Tubbs
5. C. Williams

If you can find an other heavyweight with more than 5 one-punch KO's over established contenders, then let me know! Until then, Tyson packs one of the hardest single-punches in history.

[lefthook31]

Off the top of my head, the following men were KO'd by one punch:

1. Berbick
2. Tillman
3. Botha
4. Spinks
5. Tubbs
6. Ettiene
7. C. Williams

All of whom were either champions, contenders or fringe contenders. Now, i'm not including tomato cans, but if you will, you can leave out the fringe contenders, leaving:


1. Berbick
2. Botha
3. Spinks
4. Tubbs
5. C. Williams

If you can find an other heavyweight with more than 5 one-punch KO's over established contenders, then let me know! Until then, Tyson packs one of the hardest single-punches in history.
You are right. I had a look at his record after I posted, and had to refresh my mind how those fights ended. I think you can add Stewart and Frazier to that list too. Some of those guys were finished off with a series of shots, but realistically they would have never recovered or been able to continue from the initial one. :good

[Flea Man]

Joe louis is by default the greatest Heavyweight puncher as he is THE greatest puncher ever.

Form, speed, composite punches, got to speedy little guys, big guys, iron chins....spanned two eras of Heavyweights and still stopped people when past prime, only in it for the money (because of his obvious problems)

Regardless if weight, Louis had big power and the other attributes his punching entailed elevates him to the top position IMO.

[PetethePrince]

Morrison is about a couple guys down from here but he could hit thats for sure but a slight notch down from these guys.


As for Marciano well PFP hes one of the greatest PFP punchers ever but i just dont think a 185lb Marciano hit as hard as these guys.

Might sound like Boxing Sacrilige but im a realist.

Not a realist when you have Frazier ahead of Marciano. It's just yet again one of the many other double standards on this board. I wonder where Dempsey ends up. I think you should go back to the drawing board.

Ok i forgot to answer your biggest puncher question:think Actually its pretty tough as far as order but id include guys (in no particular order)

SHavers
Foreman
Tyson
Liston
Tua
Louis,Marciano great punchers but i dont think they hit quite hard as the bigger hw of the modern era(altough close)

Many other guys like Big Cat,Bowe who maybe should have been on that 2nd tier list.


In fact Bowe is someone i should have included on the thread as i think he is about on these guys league

Okay, is that a change of heart or did I misinterpret? I was replying too harshly anyway.

Next reply will get at your list.

Also. I think there's a difference between the biggest punchers and the best punchers. Tyson might be the top of this list, but not in terms of raw power. His speed and precision do it.

[Sonny Carson]

Joe louis is by default the greatest Heavyweight puncher as he is THE greatest puncher ever.

Form, speed, composite punches, got to speedy little guys, big guys, iron chins....spanned two eras of Heavyweights and still stopped people when past prime, only in it for the money (because of his obvious problems)

Regardless if weight, Louis had big power and the other attributes his punching entailed elevates him to the top position IMO.
I've never seen a better puncher than Louis. He's the only heavyweight who I feel who could take out Ali. I have Ali winning a decision in a matchup but I feel Louis has what it takes to take him out if he catches him.

[Vysotsky]

Not that anyone would have a better view than Steward but I do wonder if maybe there's the influence of what's most recent here. He's spent so much time with Wlad since LL retired and everything is so much fresher in his mind with him, maybe it's clouding his judgement on it a bit. Or even he might be being overly complimentary about the guy he's still going to be working with.

Wlad's obviously a big, big puncher but I'm trying to picture Lennox hitting Sultan Ibragimov with this same shot, and then trying to see Sultan not get knocked down with a broken nose and showing up later in a neck brace. :yep

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Tyson has as many one-punch KO's as any champion. How is his one-punch power not at the top?

I remember Roach saying that Klitschko hit harder than Tyson & he worked with both circa 2004 around the same time

[300press]

These guys in my opinion are all just one tier below the biggest punchers ever give me you listings on these guys

Cooney
Ruddock
Lewis
Bonecrusher
Wlad
Fraizer

There are some other guys but these are the ones that came to mind. Put them in order and at the end im gonna do a point system and see how it came out.


I think you guys are sleeping on Ruddock, he had a massive uppercut. If you are looking at one punch power I think you have to give it to Ruddock. But for combination power I think it goes to Lewis.

[MMJoe]

Muhammad Ali says Shavers hit harder than anyone he ever fought including Foreman and Liston. Larry Holmes said Shavers hit harder than Tyson. What other heavy has this strong of a recombination? Two heavyweight legends from tow generations picking the same guy as the hardest puncher they ever fought. These guys are more experts than anyone else.
(harder than Tyson, Foremen or Frazer)

Some reference videos, from people who should know because they got hit my Shavers:

Ali Says Shavers hardest hitter "Stronger than Joe Frazer, stronger than George Foreman"
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Ron Lyle @ 04:30 says Shavers hardest hitter, harder than Foreman.
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[MMJoe]

If 1st round KO's are any indicator Tyson and Shavers are tied at 22 1st round KO's. Shannon Briggs is the champ at 27 1st round KO's/

[anarci]

Muhammad Ali says Shavers hit harder than anyone he ever fought including Foreman and Liston. Larry Holmes said Shavers hit harder than Tyson. What other heavy has this strong of a recombination? Two heavyweight legends from tow generations picking the same guy as the hardest puncher they ever fought. These guys are more experts than anyone else.
(harder than Tyson, Foremen or Frazer)

Some reference videos, from people who should know because they got hit my Shavers:

Ali Says Shavers hardest hitter "Stronger than Joe Frazer, stronger than George Foreman"
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Ron Lyle @ 04:30 says Shavers hardest hitter, harder than Foreman.
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I agree ive pretty much posted what you just stated quite a few times on This forum. They would k ow better than anyone else.

[MRBILL]

I'll grant Lewis and Ruddock at #'s 1 & 2..... Cooney only KO'd old farts and stiffs, but he had power..... Wlad Klit can WALLOP real well with both hands; he's deadly.... Smith and Frazier were punchers too, but not as wicked as some want you to believe.... Frazier had a great hook, while Bones Smith was slower than shit upon delivery...... Cheers.....

MR.BILL

[shavers]

Lewis
Ruddock
Cooney
Klitschko
Smith
Frazier

Right on. Cooney is extremely underrated in this poll.
His left hook to the body was devastating, in close he brought it up similar to Ruddocks smash, like a hybrid left hook-uppercut.
Cooney were better in close quarters than Ruddock though.

Have you watched Tyson-Ruddock 2 and turned up the sound?
Ruddocks shots sound s like cannons..
Incredible power.

[RockysSplitNose]

These guys in my opinion are all just one tier below the biggest punchers ever give me you listings on these guys

Cooney
Ruddock
Lewis
Bonecrusher
Wlad
Fraizer

There are some other guys but these are the ones that came to mind. Put them in order and at the end im gonna do a point system and see how it came out.

Marciano :hi:
Morrison :D
Lewis 8-)
Bonecrusher :beat
Ruddock:rasta
FRazier:ko
Cooney:boxing2
Wlad :blabla

[anarci]

Marciano :hi:
Morrison :D
Lewis 8-)
Bonecrusher :beat
Ruddock:rasta
FRazier:ko
Cooney:boxing2
Wlad :blabla I dont think Morrison hit harder than those guys, Im sure Foreman would say that Cooney hit harder than Morrison.

[mike_bngs]

outta your selection Frazier for one shot, bad intention punching.

[Son of Gaul]

These guys in my opinion are all just one tier below the biggest punchers ever give me you listings on these guys

Cooney
Ruddock
Lewis
Bonecrusher
Wlad
Fraizer

There are some other guys but these are the ones that came to mind. Put them in order and at the end im gonna do a point system and see how it came out.

Of the fighters listed?

1) Ruddock
2) Cooney
3) Wlad
4) Lewis
5) Frazier
6) Smith

[tommygun711]

Lewis
Ruddock
Cooney
Klitschko
Frazier
Smith

Are we talking shot for shot, or just an over all best puncher?

[Son of Gaul]

outta your selection Frazier for one shot, bad intention punching.

Nah, of the fighters listed Ruddock or Cooney would be the choice for one punch torture. Frazier's damage was more cumulative. I honestly still consider Lennox Lewis more of a boxer first than a puncher but hey what do I know?

[DonBoxer]

Lewis



Wlad

Ruddock
Cooney
Crusher
Frazier

[choklab]

These guys in my opinion are all just one tier below the biggest punchers ever give me you listings on these guys

Cooney
Ruddock
Lewis
Bonecrusher
Wlad
Fraizer
.

with punching power its not about how hard you hit but who you knock out. The most spectacular knockouts are always against an overmatched shopworn guy who has been KO'd a number of times before. his resistance might be totaly gone and his reaction to a clean shot only frightening because he should have already retired.

so i would rate a guy who can catch a fresh, good opponent with his best punch as the hardest hitter. On this list frazier and lewis put more good guys away with a single shot. ruddock may have beheaded dokes but nobody else of that calibre. bonecrusher was a powerful guy but would freeze guys with a big shot then overwhelm them with a flury- weaver was the best guy he beat but weaver had been knocked out a lot of times.

frazier
Lewis
wlad
crusher
cooney
ruddock

[Mendoza]

These guys in my opinion are all just one tier below the biggest punchers ever give me you listings on these guys

Cooney
Ruddock
Lewis
Bonecrusher
Wlad
Fraizer

There are some other guys but these are the ones that came to mind. Put them in order and at the end im gonna do a point system and see how it came out.

One shot power?

Lewis
Wlad
Cooney
Bonecrusher
Ruddock
Frazier

[Bonecrusher]

These guys in my opinion are all just one tier below the biggest punchers ever give me you listings on these guys

Cooney
Ruddock
Lewis
Bonecrusher
Wlad
Fraizer

There are some other guys but these are the ones that came to mind. Put them in order and at the end im gonna do a point system and see how it came out.

Lewis
Ruddock
Cooney
Bonecrusher
Frazier
Wlad...

This is a tough call, I think Lewis is #1 but Ruddock, Cooney and Crusher are all very close to me... Frazier and Wlad are just a touch under my 1st 4..

[anarci]

I barely noticed that someone bumped this recently, ill do it again i never added up the points will do so in a few more days.

[ironchamp]

Well Tyson fought Lewis, Ruddock and Bone Crusher and he seems to give the nod to Ruddock. He also insinuated that Bruno hit harder than Lewis. Oddly enough, I think Tyson despite the beating he took from Lennox could have continued if he had the fighting spirit left in him.

Jim Lampley seemed shocked that Tyson was able to take that many right hands from Lewis.

So my ranking is:

Ruddock
Lewis
Wlad
Cooney
Bone Crusher
Frazier

[anarci]

:bbb

[Mirko]

am I the only one who thinks Wlad's power is overrated? :huh
he lands right hands and it takes him above 8 rounds to finish his opponent... and he makes them quit. the Klitschkos high % KO ratio is due to people quitting on their stools and not being flattened every time. while if you look at Foreman or Tyson or Ruddock for example they knock'em out cold.
of the above mentioned I'd say Ruddock and Lewis, then Frazier.

[anarci]

am I the only one who thinks Wlad's power is overrated? :huh
he lands right hands and it takes him above 8 rounds to finish his opponent... and he makes them quit. the Klitschkos high % KO ratio is due to people quitting on their stools and not being flattened every time. while if you look at Foreman or Tyson or Ruddock for example they knock'em out cold.
of the above mentioned I'd say Ruddock and Lewis, then Frazier.
Where do you have Cooney and Bonecrusher?

[Mordechai]

These guys in my opinion are all just one tier below the biggest punchers ever give me you listings on these guys

Cooney
Ruddock
Lewis
Bonecrusher
Wlad
Fraizer

There are some other guys but these are the ones that came to mind. Put them in order and at the end im gonna do a point system and see how it came out.

wlad is the biggest puncher ever. not on brute strength, but on accuracy and technique.

wlad
lewis
ruddock
cooney
bonecrusher
frazier

if you look at it like that:

wlad koed brutally never knocked down fighters like, thompson, chambers, brock, mercer, peter, schulz, who were known to have great chins, he knocked down chagaev who was never ever knocked down. if he connects with a straight right which he want you to hurt, then really everyone is hurt or knocked down. and when he gets a clean left hook the same shit happens. sometimes he soesn't commit to his punches. but when he wants to hurt someone, then one punch is always enough

[Mirko]

Where do you have Cooney and Bonecrusher?

oh, I forgot Bonecrusher was on the list... on another thought I'd rate him above Frazier. For Cooney I don't know, can't really tell since he was knocking out tomato cans... man I don't know the more I think about it the less I know. I'm only sure about Ruddock and Lewis being at the top.