Danny green-antonio tarver discussions underway

[app80]

Boxingtalk.com has been informed that discussions are underway for Danny Green to square off against Antonio Tarver. The Magic Man, through Boxingtalk.com, has expressed great interest in fighting Green as his "tune-up" to James Toney, but Gary Shaw says that Tarver has turned down Team Green's first offer, which was considerably less than seven figures.

[teke]

Dont let this punk get too much money Green. He has no fan base

[sallywinder]

Dont let this punk get too much money Green. He has no fan base

compared to medley?

[teke]

compared to medley?what!

[sallywinder]

what!

is this forum FULL of retards????????????? cant you cunts understand anything?

[teke]

is this forum FULL of retards????????????? cant you cunts understand anything?Let's be serious for a moment if you can. Why bring a Mundine subject into a Tarver/Green thread.

I understand what you meant I just think Atigerold should beat the fuck outta you.

[app80]

is this forum FULL of retards????????????? cant you cunts understand anything?

Why mention Medley? I agree... I think Tarver takes him on points

[sallywinder]

dduuuhhhh!!!!!!! you cunts are so stupid.

mundog fights medley..

green fights tarver..

yet teke. the forum cannibal says its a shit fight because tarver "has no fan base.."....

not only that..ap80, his partner is sucking on mundogs piles, cant make the link.

fuck wits. dumb cunts. low IQ fuck heads. i cant believe i took the time to explain it to them...:-(

[manhattanboxer3]

Tarver would batter him

[app80]

dduuuhhhh!!!!!!! you cunts are so stupid.

mundog fights medley..

green fights tarver..

yet teke. the forum cannibal says its a shit fight because tarver "has no fan base.."....

not only that..ap80, his partner is sucking on mundogs piles, cant make the link.

fuck wits. dumb cunts. low IQ fuck heads. i cant believe i took the time to explain it to them...:-(

You're the silly cunt who has to mention "Mundog" on EVERY fucken post. Teke said dont let Tarver get TOO much money - read his actual post fucktard... he never said Shit fight.
Low IQ fuckheads? You aren't even making any points with your posts , did Mundine screw ur mrs or something?

[teke]

dduuuhhhh!!!!!!! you cunts are so stupid.

mundog fights medley..

green fights tarver..

yet teke. the forum cannibal says its a shit fight because tarver "has no fan base.."....

not only that..ap80, his partner is sucking on mundogs piles, cant make the link.

fuck wits. dumb cunts. low IQ fuck heads. i cant believe i took the time to explain it to them...:-(Im gonna go Inbruman on your arse soon :lol:

Who are you talking to when you say "fuck wits. dumb cunts. low IQ fuck heads. i cant believe i took the time to explain it to them..."

Noone here is listening let alone believing the dumb incorrect shit you are posting.

Im gonna test out this ignore function, carry on...

[sallywinder]

You're the silly cunt who has to mention "Mundog" on EVERY fucken post. Teke said dont let Tarver get TOO much money - read his actual post fucktard... he never said Shit fight.
Low IQ fuckheads? You aren't even making any points with your posts , did Mundine screw ur mrs or something?

do you get take away from mundines ass? do you fill a condom with his pile dribble and shit to enjoy later?

[app80]

do you get take away from mundines ass? do you fill a condom with his pile dribble and shit to enjoy later?

Another post mentioning your hero Mundine. Dude , make sense , or fuck off

[teke]

where the fuck is the ignore button :fire

[the beaver]

Can we just keep the thread to Green v Tarver.

Good fight if it comes off, will give Green some more credibility if he wins.........especially by stoppage

[sallywinder]

app80...

post a poll ..(start a thread)

"do you think mundine has failed to fight decent opposition" (or something along those lines.)

im outa here...pissed as a cricket!

[app80]

Can we just keep the thread to Green v Tarver.

Good fight if it comes off, will give Green some more credibility if he wins.........especially by stoppage

He aint stopping Tarver.....

[teke]

He aint stopping Tarver.....I think he could but I also can see Green getting grossly outpt'd :huh

[the beaver]

He aint stopping Tarver.....

Tend to agree
Green by controversial points decision in Perth :deal

[Marcus]

i was going to post in this thread but it got ruined by the thread maker..... plz leave him ut of a thread like this sally.

anyway, ill hope the thread is about green and tarver.

to me, tarver is a pretty tough fight for green, he is a nice boxer with good power, and he moves well for a big guy. i just dont know how he would handle greens constant pressure.

whats tarvers chin like boys?

[Marcus]

what is teke saying? .... he is on my ignore list

[LeonMcS]

I was under the assumption that Tarver was pretty much retired after the second Dawson fight.

[teke]

I was under the assumption that Tarver was pretty much retired after the second Dawson fight.No harm in Green trying to dig up his corpse. I think he could be successful in doing so.

[shiner]

all these yanks think they rule the world, want the $'s yet bring nothing to the promotion. jones supposedly bought nothing from US TV and tarver has offered the same. as such they should get paid accordingly.

[Kegsy]

all these yanks think they rule the world, want the $'s yet bring nothing to the promotion. jones supposedly bought nothing from US TV and tarver has offered the same. as such they should get paid accordingly.
Well if your winging so much about them....go & do a rematch with Otis Griffin im sure he wont take much to come out again & he is american.
Otherwise fight someone under 40.

[app80]

i was going to post in this thread but it got ruined by the thread maker..... plz leave him ut of a thread like this sally.

anyway, ill hope the thread is about green and tarver.

to me, tarver is a pretty tough fight for green, he is a nice boxer with good power, and he moves well for a big guy. i just dont know how he would handle greens constant pressure.

whats tarvers chin like boys?

WTF?? Your were going to post but I ruined it? Then u post anyway? I started the thread about Green and Tarver , and gave my opinion on it, told sal off for bringing mundine into it... U on the blondes with sal today or something...

[Marcus]

WTF?? Your were going to post but I ruined it? Then u post anyway? I started the thread about Green and Tarver , and gave my opinion on it, told sal off for bringing mundine into it... U on the blondes with sal today or something...


sorry my bad. i messed up by saying the thread starter ruined it, i fucked up.

what i really mean was.

stfu sally and :readthre: :deal

[raff]

thats a great pic marcus, is that the birth of your child?

[Marcus]

thats a great pic marcus, is that the birth of your child?


sure is thanks mate.....he is 6 months old now, i couldnt be happier :happy

[ashley]

I hope this fight comes off and I will be cheering for Danny all the way.

However.......Tarver is very good...hes won some great fights and only lost a few in WT fights against RJJ and Dawson....hows Green going to go against the southpaw?

How old is tarver these days 45 :hey

[flamengo]

sure is thanks mate.....he is 6 months old now, i couldnt be happier :happy

And the Champs are already signing autographs for him.

[dominator]

Boxingtalk.com has been informed that discussions are underway for Danny Green to square off against Antonio Tarver. The Magic Man, through Boxingtalk.com, has expressed great interest in fighting Green as his "tune-up" to James Toney, but Gary Shaw says that Tarver has turned down Team Green's first offer, which was considerably less than seven figures.

If Tarver is treating a fight with Danny as a "tune up" he's making a big mistake!

I dunno why these American fighters have to consider Danny as a tune up, just to justify a fight with him.

I would have Danny as the favourite in this one. Tarver hasn't done anything lately to consider him all that dangerous.

[ashley]

If Tarver is treating a fight with Danny as a "tune up" he's making a big mistake!

I dunno why these American fighters have to consider Danny as a tune up, just to justify a fight with him.

I would have Danny as the favourite in this one. Tarver hasn't done anything lately to consider him all that dangerous.

Dont know about that mate....going 12 good rounds with Chad Dawson
6 or 8 months ago means hes still got it.

[Marcus]

I hope this fight comes off and I will be cheering for Danny all the way.

However.......Tarver is very good...hes won some great fights and only lost a few in WT fights against RJJ and Dawson....hows Green going to go against the southpaw?

How old is tarver these days 45 :hey

its a pretty good fight imo. has he fought a southpaw? i cant remember details like that

[dominator]

Dont know about that mate....going 12 good rounds with Chad Dawson
6 or 8 months ago means hes still got it.

I hope so!

In any case, should still be a good match up.

[ashley]

its a pretty good fight imo. has he fought a southpaw? i cant remember details like that

I will say no...but could easy be wrong :yep

[ashley]

I will say no...but could easy be wrong :yep

Ok now I think about it Drews and Byer were both sowthpaws :patsch

[Marcus]

Ok now I think about it Drews and Byer were both sowthpaws :patsch


right, seams easy to remember Bayer but i fell asleep during the Drews fight sorry.

[flamengo]

right, seams easy to remember Bayer but i fell asleep during the Drews fight sorry.


So did Drews.

[Marcus]

So did Drews.

well i use to sleep walk or but i didnt know you could sleep run

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[shiner]

kegsy you tart, greeny not let you into one of fights or something in perth?
so tarvers a bum, jones must have been a bum too, guess hopkins is also?
again you show you have no idea.

[Kegsy]

kegsy you tart, greeny not let you into one of fights or something in perth?
so tarvers a bum, jones must have been a bum too, guess hopkins is also?
again you show you have no idea.
Where did i say Tarver or Jones or Hopkins was a bum???
Green expects to get the majority of the pie...well he can if he wants but he has to fight a Otis Griffin level of fighter. SIMPLE.
Not 1 American fighter with a decent name behind him is going to come half way around the world for the % Green wants....Green needs to show some financial risk as well.
Hopkins deserves IMO more than 50% as he is taking the risk coming half way around the world...plus he is in the TOP 5 pound4pound in all experts opinions.
Green can have his 75% & fight Otis Griffin level fighters quite frankly.

[boxoncottonon]

Where did i say Tarver or Jones or Hopkins was a bum???
Green expects to get the majority of the pie...well he can if he wants but he has to fight a Otis Griffin level of fighter. SIMPLE.
Not 1 American fighter with a decent name behind him is going to come half way around the world for the % Green wants....Green needs to show some financial risk as well.
Hopkins deserves IMO more than 50% as he is taking the risk coming half way around the world...plus he is in the TOP 5 pound4pound in all experts opinions.
Green can have his 75% & fight Otis Griffin level fighters quite frankly.

Can't agree here Kegsy.

The Yanks are fighting in there own backyard for standard fare, they are starting to get a sniff of the money to be had down under and are getting greedy.
Which Yank made the comment about reward and risk??
For some it will pay travel down under for others they will pay for the trip.

[Kegsy]

Can't agree here Kegsy.

The Yanks are fighting in there own backyard for standard fare, they are starting to get a sniff of the money to be had down under and are getting greedy.
Which Yank made the comment about reward and risk??
For some it will pay travel down under for others they will pay for the trip.
If Green had a Major 4 Cruiserweight/Light Heavyweight belt, then he would have more clout on the table for the opposing fighter to risk....but lets face it he has the IBO & his claim to fame is he beat a very old Roy Jones.
Unless a big name is paid probably above what he is worth whoever they are Tarver...Hopkins etc.... will not come.
What does Green have that Hopkins wants??? The IBO Cruiser Title:lol:
I mean for sure he beat Roy Jones who beat Hopkins back in 1993...Hopkins camp will think so what should i beat Green will the US audience/press really care???
Its all about legacy for Hopkins now.
Which is why Green will need to give Hopkins more than 50% to come out here whether he likes it or not.

[boxoncottonon]

If Green had a Major 4 Cruiserweight/Light Heavyweight belt, then he would have more clout on the table for the opposing fighter to risk....but lets face it he has the IBO & his claim to fame is he beat a very old Roy Jones.
Unless a big name is paid probably above what he is worth whoever they are Tarver...Hopkins etc.... will not come.
What does Green have that Hopkins wants??? The IBO Cruiser Title:lol:
I mean for sure he beat Roy Jones who beat Hopkins back in 1993...Hopkins camp will think so what should i beat Green will the US audience/press really care???
Its all about legacy for Hopkins now.
Which is why Green will need to give Hopkins more than 50% to come out here whether he likes it or not.

It's about the green, not Green.

You believe Tarver, Johnson, Dawson & Bhop would prefer to take 3 fights in the States to make what they could earn here in 1 fight against Green?

Risk & Reward.

For the most part travelling and fighting outside of the US meant dealing with different fight styles (pugalists in Europe) and accordingly different styles in judging....all a matter of opinion.
Come and fight Danny Green and styles and judging takes a back seat. The risk of getting KO'D and returning home with this on your resume and your value financially is gonna plumet.....ask Roy.

Green is dangling a decent carrot here, these guys should get out of there comfort zone and travel some, they might get a decent payday down here.

[app80]

It's about the green, not Green.

You believe Tarver, Johnson, Dawson & Bhop would prefer to take 3 fights in the States to make what they could earn here in 1 fight against Green?

Risk & Reward.

For the most part travelling and fighting outside of the US meant dealing with different fight styles (pugalists in Europe) and accordingly different styles in judging....all a matter of opinion.
Come and fight Danny Green and styles and judging takes a back seat. The risk of getting KO'D and returning home with this on your resume and your value financially is gonna plumet.....ask Roy.

Green is dangling a decent carrot here, these guys should get out of there comfort zone and travel some, they might get a decent payday down here.

Its an easy solve. Whoever Green fights here (as was the case with Jones) is 50/50. IF the opponent warrants the fight being on HBO , they get all that money, cos Green couldn't get on there alone...

[shiner]

same principle- if the Yanks want what they deserve stay home and fight someone in america if it is so easy to make the money? oh- they can't that's right!

what doesz green have that hopkins don't- a win over jones that cost him porbably 10m! fair bit in my book?

carry on and keep showing you have no idea!

[app80]

same principle- if the Yanks want what they deserve stay home and fight someone in america if it is so easy to make the money? oh- they can't that's right!

what doesz green have that hopkins don't- a win over jones that cost him porbably 10m! fair bit in my book?

carry on and keep showing you have no idea!

No Idea? Green has a victory over an over 40 past it Jones. Lets flip it , wat does Hopkins have that green doesn't? - A HALL OF FAME LEGACY! Go home lil man

[donkeyking]

Green is not worthy of shining Hopkins shoes. Take the 60/40.

[app80]

Green is not worthy of shining Hopkins shoes. Take the 60/40.

Bingo. If Green were to take less and somehow beat Hopkins , he would get HBO money or PPV for the rematch , and be taken VERY SERIOUSLY legacy wise... Its a win win for him...

[stiflers mum]

I hope this fight comes off and I will be cheering for Danny all the way.

However.......Tarver is very good...hes won some great fights and only lost a few in WT fights against RJJ and Dawson....hows Green going to go against the southpaw?

How old is tarver these days 45 :hey
40 i think.Green to KO another yank who is looking to the next fight and treating him as a tune up and yes i know Tarver has a solid chin.TKO 9.

[teke]

40 i think.Green to KO another yank who is looking to the next fight and treating him as a tune up and yes i know Tarver has a solid chin.TKO 9.I like Greens chances by KO. Tarver has a good chin but it's nothing special. If Green can pressure well enough Tarvers workrate has known to drop and this could lead to KO opportunities.

[left jab danny]

Bingo. If Green were to take less and somehow beat Hopkins , he would get HBO money or PPV for the rematch , and be taken VERY SERIOUSLY legacy wise... Its a win win for him...

Danny has offered him very close to 60/40 and people are still whinging.
I think people forget Dannys almost 37 if he loses its almost game over.
If the fight doesn't happen Hopkins can find someone else to fight for 250k since he isn't interested in making 4 mil.
I'd rather see Danny fight Tarver anyway i think it would be a better action fight and a bit more safer fight as well.
I think if Dannys team want to get the Tarver fight they will,i had to laugh at Dans first offer to Tarver that was just a bit of payback for them offering Danny 200k for their proposed fight in 2007:hey
Hopefully Danny can get him down here knock luber lips out and then maybe Hopkins might be interested:deal
Who knows maybe the talk of Green/Tarver fighting might prompt bhop to sign for the fight.

[the beaver]

Danny has offered him very close to 60/40 and people are still whinging.
I think people forget Dannys almost 37 if he loses its almost game over.
If the fight doesn't happen Hopkins can find someone else to fight for 250k since he isn't interested in making 4 mil.
I'd rather see Danny fight Tarver anyway i think it would be a better action fight and a bit more safer fight as well.
I think if Dannys team want to get the Tarver fight they will,i had to laugh at Dans first offer to Tarver that was just a bit of payback for them offering Danny 200k for their proposed fight in 2007:hey
Hopefully Danny can get him down here knock luber lips out and then maybe Hopkins might be interested:deal
Who knows maybe the talk of Green/Tarver fighting might prompt bhop to sign for the fight.

Care to eleborate on the first offer put to Tarver??

[left jab danny]

Care to eleborate on the first offer put to Tarver??

Works out to be about 680-700K U.S :yep

[the beaver]

Works out to be about 680-700K U.S :yep

Not bad.

I'd like to know what Tarver got for each his last 5 fights.

I reckon if Tarver got double, say $1.5mil that wld have to be pretty good coin considering he said it's a tune up before Toney.

[left jab danny]

Not bad.

I'd like to know what Tarver got for each his last 5 fights.

I reckon if Tarver got double, say $1.5mil that wld have to be pretty good coin considering he said it's a tune up before Toney.

Spot on mate,They will offer at least 1.2 mil and i think 1.5 would get his signature on the dotted line:deal
Just a bit of mind games at the moment,if they want the fight they'll get it done i think.

[app80]

Spot on mate,They will offer at least 1.2 mil and i think 1.5 would get his signature on the dotted line:deal
Just a bit of mind games at the moment,if they want the fight they'll get it done i think.

You in the know mate or just read this somewhere?

[ashley]

Danny has offered him very close to 60/40 and people are still whinging.
I think people forget Dannys almost 37 if he loses its almost game over.
If the fight doesn't happen Hopkins can find someone else to fight for 250k since he isn't interested in making 4 mil.
I'd rather see Danny fight Tarver anyway i think it would be a better action fight and a bit more safer fight as well.
I think if Dannys team want to get the Tarver fight they will,i had to laugh at Dans first offer to Tarver that was just a bit of payback for them offering Danny 200k for their proposed fight in 2007:hey
Hopefully Danny can get him down here knock luber lips out and then maybe Hopkins might be interested:deal
Who knows maybe the talk of Green/Tarver fighting might prompt bhop to sign for the fight.

I like the sound of this :good

[stiflers mum]

I like Greens chances by KO. Tarver has a good chin but it's nothing special. If Green can pressure well enough Tarvers workrate has known to drop and this could lead to KO opportunities.
i know Dawson is a far better boxer than Green and he basically swept all the rounds in their last fight but i think Tarver will underestimate Green fight braver,showboat and get caught flush.Tarver is nothing special IMO.as for the money Dawson got 800k Tarver 1 mill in their second fight.Danny should pay him 1.25-1.7 mill tops to come here.Hopkins is the#1 ranked LHW Tarver doesnt deserve as much.

[IrnBruMan]

Green is not worthy of shining Hopkins shoes. Take the 60/40.

Yet Ornelas was? :hey

Put it this way - Hopkins made $250k US fighting Ornelas and he stands to make $3-4mill AUS fighting Green here if he accepts the 50/50 split.

Do you think Hopkins' cares whether Green is fit to shine his shoes or not when that much money is up for grabs?

[ashley]

Yet Ornelas was? :hey

Put it this way - Hopkins made $250k US fighting Ornelas and he stands to make $3-4mill AUS fighting Green here if he accepts the 50/50 split.

Do you think Hopkins' cares whether Green is fit to shine his shoes or not when that much money is up for grabs?

It does make you wonder why they wont jump at the cash......maybe Danny has them a bit worried after the RJJ stoppage :deal

[IrnBruMan]

It does make you wonder why they wont jump at the cash......maybe Danny has them a bit worried after the RJJ stoppage :deal

Could be...or Hopkins is just being greedy as per usual.

He's not a PPV star in his own right, as someone else here said, he needs a dance partner to sell a card.

[the beaver]

Hopkins holding out for more, he's not scared of Green if he's prepared to fight heavyweights like David Haye and Adamek etc.

[app80]

It does make you wonder why they wont jump at the cash......maybe Danny has them a bit worried after the RJJ stoppage :deal

Do you honestly beleive that?

[ashley]

Do you honestly beleive that?

Yes I do....when looking at fights everybody looks at risk v reward....Danny's risk level went up a notch or 2 after the RJJ stoppage.

Just look at how RJJ stopped Lacy a few months before that....ok Lacy is passed his best however he's still a name....Danny Green is now far above Lacy.

[Francis75]

Yes I do....when looking at fights everybody looks at risk v reward....Danny's risk level went up a notch or 2 after the RJJ stoppage.

Just look at how RJJ stopped Lacy a few months before that....ok Lacy is passed his best however he's still a name....Danny Green is now far above Lacy.

Sorry but Jeff Lacy of the last few years is just a journeyman. Roy Jones has not looked remotely good for a long long time against top level opposition.

[ashley]

Sorry but Jeff Lacy of the last few years is just a journeyman. Roy Jones has not looked remotely good for a long long time against top level opposition.

Yes agree....however what I'm saying is B Hop is taking into consideration that Green has a punch and just stopped RJJ....he's looking for more money because of this....I'm not saying Greens is top level however BHOP sure as shit knows Green is more dangerous that Orneales :deal

[Francis75]

Yes agree....however what I'm saying is B Hop is taking into consideration that Green has a punch and just stopped RJJ....he's looking for more money because of this....I'm not saying Greens is top level however BHOP sure as shit knows Green is more dangerous that Orneales :deal

True but Bhop is not happy that a no mark on the world stage like Green is demanding 50-50 in a fight against him when he is the all time legend who is still P4P no. 3 in boxing. I agree that Green is bringing in a lot of money but Bhop isn't going to be able to look himself in the mirror if he allows someone like Danny Green to earn equal.

[ashley]

True but Bhop is not happy that a no mark on the world stage like Green is demanding 50-50 in a fight against him when he is the all time legend who is still P4P no. 3 in boxing. I agree that Green is bringing in a lot of money but Bhop isn't going to be able to look himself in the mirror if he allows someone like Danny Green to earn equal.


Yeah and you would think Green's camp would know this and try to structure the deal another way.....like Green gets 100% aussie PPV and 30% gate...B Hop gets 70% gate and 100% of world PPV.

[app80]

Sorry but Jeff Lacy of the last few years is just a journeyman. Roy Jones has not looked remotely good for a long long time against top level opposition.

What he said

[app80]

Yeah and you would think Green's camp would know this and try to structure the deal another way.....like Green gets 100% aussie PPV and 30% gate...B Hop gets 70% gate and 100% of world PPV.

Aussie 50/50 , Hops all of the HBO...?

[ashley]

Aussie 50/50 , Hops all of the HBO...?

Good deal for B Hop...looks more like 70% to 30% in the end

[IrnBruMan]

Just saw a link in the general where RJJ's camp is claiming the rematch with Hopkins has been signed.

A revised contract was drafted after Green beating RJJ made the original contract null and void.

I hope this isn't true, I want Hopkins to fight Green. Could be Hopkins has been stalling to get a read on how viable a rematch with RJJ would be after Green beating him.

[app80]

Good deal for B Hop...looks more like 70% to 30% in the end

Doesnt matter , Green was willing to split 8 mill at 50/50. Now there is HBO money on the table , it may be another 3 or 4 mill , it should all go to Hops... and Green should take his 4 mill and be happy. He wont make that much anywhere else either....

[buster007]

make no mistake, hopkins is worried about fighting green.

saying he couldn't be scared because he is entertaining the prospect of fighting haye etc. at heavyweight is complete rubbish. hopkins has no intention whatsoever of getting in the ring with haye and co.

that is the reason he has changed the agreement. he figures he'll ask for 60/40 because if green doesn't accept, then hopkins can use that as a face saving argument, and he figures if he is going to take the risk of fighting a cruiser banger like green then he is going to milk it for what he can.

it has nothing whatsoever to do with being upset that he has been asked to lower himself to a 50/50 deal against a guy who doesn't have a resume like his own.

hopkins knows he can take much less risk against other fighters and still make some decent cash.

[IrnBruMan]

make no mistake, hopkins is worried about fighting green.

saying he couldn't be scared because he is entertaining the prospect of fighting haye etc. at heavyweight is complete rubbish. hopkins has no intention whatsoever of getting in the ring with haye and co.

that is the reason he has changed the agreement. he figures he'll ask for 60/40 because if green doesn't accept, then hopkins can use that as a face saving argument, and he figures if he is going to take the risk of fighting a cruiser banger like green then he is going to milk it for what he can.

it has nothing whatsoever to do with being upset that he has been asked to lower himself to a 50/50 deal against a guy who doesn't have a resume like his own.

hopkins knows he can take much less risk against other fighters and still make some decent cash.

Exactly :good

[ashley]

Doesnt matter , Green was willing to split 8 mill at 50/50. Now there is HBO money on the table , it may be another 3 or 4 mill , it should all go to Hops... and Green should take his 4 mill and be happy. He wont make that much anywhere else either....

I almost said Mundine....opps I said it :hey

[app80]

I almost said Mundine....opps I said it :hey

True... But Mundine wont give him 50/50.. EVER

he has the win , and doesnt NEED the fight to happen...

[the beaver]

make no mistake, hopkins is worried about fighting green.

saying he couldn't be scared because he is entertaining the prospect of fighting haye etc. at heavyweight is complete rubbish. hopkins has no intention whatsoever of getting in the ring with haye and co.

that is the reason he has changed the agreement. he figures he'll ask for 60/40 because if green doesn't accept, then hopkins can use that as a face saving argument, and he figures if he is going to take the risk of fighting a cruiser banger like green then he is going to milk it for what he can.

it has nothing whatsoever to do with being upset that he has been asked to lower himself to a 50/50 deal against a guy who doesn't have a resume like his own.

hopkins knows he can take much less risk against other fighters and still make some decent cash.

Rubbish, Hopkins knows RJJ is finished that's why he was so keen to rematch him. I don't think Hopkins gives any credibility to Green for knocking out RJJ.

Hopkins looks at Danny Greens resume and sees Beyer twice and Mundine have beaten this guy.

He wants at least 60/40 because he's a ATG, not because he wants to save face.

Anyone that thinks Hopkins is even remotely scared of a 37yr old Green who been around for years is delusional.

[ashley]

Rubbish, Hopkins knows RJJ is finished that's why he was so keen to rematch him. I don't think Hopkins gives any credibility to Green for knocking out RJJ.

Hopkins looks at Danny Greens resume and sees Beyer twice and Mundine have beaten this guy.

He wants at least 60/40 because he's a ATG, not because he wants to save face.

Anyone that thinks Hopkins is even remotely scared of a 37yr old Green who been around for years is delusional.

I dont think anybody is saying "B HOP is scared" but more like B HOP has taken into account the stoppage of RJJ into his risk reward sums and just want more cash

[app80]

I dont think anybody is saying "B HOP is scared" but more like B HOP has taken into account the stoppage of RJJ into his risk reward sums and just want more cash

I really doubt Green concerns him in the slightest, if anything it would be the early stoppage itself which would be more troubling to him...

[the beaver]

I dont think anybody is saying "B HOP is scared" but more like B HOP has taken into account the stoppage of RJJ into his risk reward sums and just want more cash

Did you not see buster007 comment and ImBruMan agreeing?

[buster007]

hopkins is complaining about getting only getting $4-5 mill instead of $5-6, or something along those lines. even though he would probably get $2mill or less for fighting anybody else.

any objective and sane person can see that hopkins DOES NOT WANT TO FIGHT DANNY GREEN.

why?

because his testicles r not big enough.

hopkins is smart enough to know that fighting a big banging cruiser like green is a seriously risky fight.

u only have to look at most of his recent opponents. they have been middleweights stepping up 2 divisions all of a sudden to fight at a weight that was clearly beyond them. and now he has the chance to fight a guy who relish's the extra weight.

[Farmboxer]

Looks like Hopkins will fight Jones now.

[lefty]

hopkins is complaining about getting only getting $4-5 mill instead of $5-6, or something along those lines. even though he would probably get $2mill or less for fighting anybody else.

any objective and sane person can see that hopkins DOES NOT WANT TO FIGHT DANNY GREEN.

why?

because his testicles r not big enough.

hopkins is smart enough to know that fighting a big banging cruiser like green is a seriously risky fight.

u only have to look at most of his recent opponents. they have been middleweights stepping up 2 divisions all of a sudden to fight at a weight that was clearly beyond them. and now he has the chance to fight a guy who relish's the extra weight.

Danny Green isn't a fucking cruiserweight, he's a big boned super middle. Hopkins being afraid of Green is ridiculous, if you think that you do not know boxing.

[IrnBruMan]

Danny Green isn't a fucking cruiserweight, he's a big boned super middle. Hopkins being afraid of Green is ridiculous, if you think that you do not know boxing.

Hey hazey, what have you done in life to criticise Green for what he's done?

Go fuck yourself you Dawson (possibly the whiniest and most boring 'up and coming' fighter in the world) nuthugger :yep

I bet Dawson couldn't stop RJJ in 1 min 22 secs :lol:

[Francis75]

Hey hazey, what have you done in life to criticise Green for what he's done?

Go fuck yourself you Dawson (possibly the whiniest and most boring 'up and coming' fighter in the world) nuthugger :yep

I bet Dawson couldn't stop RJJ in 1 min 22 secs :lol:

You are correct BUT Chad Dawson would embarrass Danny Green over 12 rds though.

[Kegsy]

Anyone who says B-hop is scared of Danny Green needs to have a serious look at who B-Hop has fought in his career & where he has come from.

If Green is so confident take 35%-40% & he will make more millions for yrs to come.

[kel]

Anyone who says B-hop is scared of Danny Green needs to have a serious look at who B-Hop has fought in his career & where he has come from.

If Green is so confident take 35%-40% & he will make more millions for yrs to come.


Yep i think most agree apart from a few Green nuthuggers.

[Rise Above]

Anyone who says B-hop is scared of Danny Green needs to have a serious look at who B-Hop has fought in his career & where he has come from.

If Green is so confident take 35%-40% & he will make more millions for yrs to come.

Totally agree.

[Sox]

Anyone who says B-hop is scared of Danny Green needs to have a serious look at who B-Hop has fought in his career & where he has come from.

If Green is so confident take 35%-40% & he will make more millions for yrs to come.
Tend to agree.

[IntentionalButt]

Terrible move for Tarver. He's going to get beaten up here, and should stay behind the microphone where it's nice and safe and there's a little more promise of career stability.

[stiflers mum]

i dont think Hopkins is scared of Green.his resume even over 40 shits on Dannys.i guess the Americans have convinced themselves Roy was caught cold,by loaded gloves
whatever that it was a fluke and their is still American interest in this fight.

[buster007]

so its ok for hopkins to pass on making sqillions but not for green. double standards or what?
from all accounts, danny was trying to do whatever he could to make hopkins sign. but he still didn't want a bar of it. he said hopkins was just making things more and more difficult as negotiations went on.

anybody with an iq above 1 (i think that means most of us, lol) could see hopkins preferred to fight jones than to take a risk of getting ko'd by green at this stage of his career. againts jones he at least is confident he won't get the shit beat out of him.

but that's not saying hopkins would lose to danny green anyway, who knows maybe he would school green the same way that jones was suppose to. he has done just that plenty of times to opponents in the past. and of course hopkins would start a short priced favourite.

[IrnBruMan]

Hopkins was showing signs of not wanting to fight Green in his post-Ornelas fight interview.

"Europe"? :hey

He was already questioning Green's win over RJJ as early as that, so I guess that shows he always wanted the rematch with Jones after all.

[lefty]

Hey hazey, what have you done in life to criticise Green for what he's done?

Go fuck yourself you Dawson (possibly the whiniest and most boring 'up and coming' fighter in the world) nuthugger :yep

I bet Dawson couldn't stop RJJ in 1 min 22 secs :lol:

What have you done in your life to criticise me? I'm a boxing fan who calls it like I see it. You fucking wrinkled up old turd.

No probably not, but he would show skills and outbox Jones worse than Calzaghe did, that'd be more impressive to me than some excuse making, knucklehead thug who thinks he's righteous charging out the gate to drop a faded legend with an illegal punch than slapping gloves until his hometown ref waves it off. There was nothing impressive about Greens win over Jones, that's why nobody overseas cares about seeing Green again.

[the beaver]

so its ok for hopkins to pass on making sqillions but not for green. double standards or what?
from all accounts, danny was trying to do whatever he could to make hopkins sign. but he still didn't want a bar of it. he said hopkins was just making things more and more difficult as negotiations went on.

anybody with an iq above 1 (i think that means most of us, lol) could see hopkins preferred to fight jones than to take a risk of getting ko'd by green at this stage of his career. againts jones he at least is confident he won't get the shit beat out of him.

but that's not saying hopkins would lose to danny green anyway, who knows maybe he would school green the same way that jones was suppose to. he has done just that plenty of times to opponents in the past. and of course hopkins would start a short priced favourite.

Blah Blah Blah................ get off Green's nuts and stop implying Hopkins is slightly worried about a 37yr old Aussie with limited ability.

[IrnBruMan]

What have you done in your life to criticise me? I'm a boxing fan who calls it like I see it. You fucking wrinkled up old turd.

No probably not, but he would show skills and outbox Jones worse than Calzaghe did, that'd be more impressive to me than some excuse making, knucklehead thug who thinks he's righteous charging out the gate to drop a faded legend with an illegal punch than slapping gloves until his hometown ref waves it off. There was nothing impressive about Greens win over Jones, that's why nobody overseas cares about seeing Green again.

:lol:

Mate, you lead with your chin, you're going to get criticised, like it or not.
Fuck off with your "anyone who supports Green doesn't know true boxing" bullshit, you wannabe aficionado :deal

You sound like all the Floyd boyz who hide behind that bullshit every time their favourite fighter is under attack "ooh, you don't appreciate the sweet science, you ain't no boxing fan ooh" :blabla

Green beat RJJ fair and square, you silly little self-righteous malcontented cunt.

Green is also a good enough boxer to have represented Australia at the Olympics and Commonwealth games and holds his own within the ranks of professional boxing. Boxing has always had it's technicians and it's punchers, acting as if you know so much because you only appreciate 'true boxers' just makes you look like the tryhard you are.

You admitted why you hate Green - because he apparently dragged your mother's doctor away while she was on her deathbed :roll:

Fuck off and get over it, dickhead :yep

[lefty]

:lol:

Mate, you lead with your chin, you're going to get criticised, like it or not.
Fuck off with your "anyone who supports Green doesn't know true boxing" bullshit, you wannabe aficionado :deal

You sound like all the Floyd boyz who hide behind that bullshit every time their favourite fighter is under attack "ooh, you don't appreciate the sweet science, you ain't no boxing fan ooh" :blabla

Green beat RJJ fair and square, you silly little self-righteous malcontented cunt.

Green is also a good enough boxer to have represented Australia at the Olympics and Commonwealth games and holds his own within the ranks of professional boxing. Boxing has always had it's technicians and it's punchers, acting as if you know so much because you only appreciate 'true boxers' just makes you look like the tryhard you are.

You admitted why you hate Green - because he apparently dragged your mother's doctor away while she was on her deathbed :roll:

Fuck off and get over it, dickhead :yep

What would you classify Green as? He's overrated as a puncher, who has he ever knocked out? When Kessler hit Beyer he stayed down and I wouldn't exactly call Kess a puncher. Glen Johnson hit Roy with a legal punch and Roy stayed down. Is Glen Johnson a puncher? Who has the stiff knocked out who wasn't a complete bum?

[Kegsy]

What would you classify Green as? He's overrated as a puncher, who has he ever knocked out? When Kessler hit Beyer he stayed down and I wouldn't exactly call Kess a puncher. Glen Johnson hit Roy with a legal punch and Roy stayed down. Is Glen Johnson a puncher? Who has the stiff knocked out who wasn't a complete bum?
The best he KO'd besides Roy Jones, would prob have to be his stoppage of Eric Lucas.
Next best stoppages are the Jason Delisle level fighters who never made it past fringe contender.

[kel]

The best he KO'd besides Roy Jones, would prob have to be his stoppage of Eric Lucas.
Next best stoppages are the Jason Delisle level fighters who never made it past fringe contender.

:yep

[teke]

The best he KO'd besides Roy Jones, would prob have to be his stoppage of Eric Lucas.
Next best stoppages are the Jason Delisle level fighters who never made it past fringe contender.Actually his next best effort after RJJ is probably taking a few rounds off Mundine in their fight

[shanemfr]

When Kessler hit Beyer he stayed down and I wouldn't exactly call Kess a puncher.
Ok genius with your logic explain how Green stopped Lucas quicker than Kessler...........que the response...Lucas was injured.

BTW does the Dr still dig up that corpse of a mother of yours and bang it, or does Danny still keep ringing him and interupting?

[kel]

Ok genius with your logic explain how Green stopped Lucas quicker than Kessler...........que the response...Lucas was injured.

BTW does the Dr still dig up that corpse of a mother of yours and bang it, or does Danny still keep ringing him and interupting?

I'm not sure he was arguing the point.

[buster007]

u his twin, lol.

[shanemfr]

I'm not sure he was arguing the point.
Do you even get the point?, he is saying Kessler put Beyer away and isn't a big puncher and sayin Green is an over rated puncher because he couldn't do it, yet the point was it's a flawed logic when before hand Green put Lucas away quicker than Kessler did.

[perfect jet]

Hopkins was showing signs of not wanting to fight Green in his post-Ornelas fight interview.

"Europe"? :hey

He was already questioning Green's win over RJJ as early as that, so I guess that shows he always wanted the rematch with Jones after all.

Spot on.

Hopkins was always fighting Roy. It's just sad that HBO and all concerned pretended Roy never got knocked out by Green and approved this abortion of a ppv.

[lefty]

Do you even get the point?, he is saying Kessler put Beyer away and isn't a big puncher and sayin Green is an over rated puncher because he couldn't do it, yet the point was it's a flawed logic when before hand Green put Lucas away quicker than Kessler did.

I must've missed the fight where Kessler fought Lucas???
Green didn't knock Lucas out, he bludgeoned him until the ref stopped it. My point is that he doesn't have any sort of one punch power. Talking about logic.... you're a fucking imbecile :thumbsup

[shanemfr]

I must've missed the fight where Kessler fought Lucas???

:rofl So your sayin you don't know kessler fought Lucas and you callin anyone an imbecile is fuckin funny after that you dumb cunt :lol:

[buster007]

lol

[Sydney Smutt]

Bludgeoning a bloke is hardly likely to have been pitty-pat punches now is it?

[lefty]

:rofl So your sayin you don't know kessler fought Lucas and you callin anyone an imbecile is fuckin funny after that you dumb cunt :lol:

I don't remember that fight. I'm calling you an imbecile because your comment was irrelevant to what my point was.

[lefty]

Bludgeoning a bloke is hardly likely to have been pitty-pat punches now is it?

I never claimed he throws pitty pat punches did I? Everyone knows Lucas wasn't right for that fight, that was probably Greens best performance of his career but he didn't knock him out. My point is he lacks one punch power. He's a strong guy, not a puncher.

[Ben K]

I never claimed he throws pitty pat punches did I? Everyone knows Lucas wasn't right for that fight, that was probably Greens best performance of his career but he didn't knock him out. My point is he lacks one punch power. He's a strong guy, not a puncher.

Are you for real. Surley your taking the Piss. Green has big power in both hands.

[donkeyking]

Spot on.

Hopkins was always fighting Roy. It's just sad that HBO and all concerned pretended Roy never got knocked out by Green and approved this abortion of a ppv.

Call it whatever you may but at the end of the day we will all be watching it. And it will make more for Hopkins than any fight with Green would.

Green got greedy and now his missed the boat. Should have taken the 60/40 as soon as it was offered. Would have loved to see Hopkins fight in Australia. Instead he believed all the hype (one lucky punch was all it was) and tried to squeeze an ATG. Well back to being Mr Nobody.

[buster007]

u r wrong.

i won't watch hopkins-jones. it is a silly fight that means nothing now, regardless of who wins or how.

also i'd doubt very much if hopkins would be fighting green even at 60/40. by all accounts green offered him whatever it took and a free visit to taronga zoo to pat a koala bear and he still wouldn't sign.

[lefty]

Are you for real. Surley your taking the Piss. Green has big power in both hands.

Really? Who has he knocked out with one shot? He has decent punching power but he is not a knockout artist.

[teke]

Green hasnt really knocked out anyone with one punch. I'd say he's a strong fighter who can punch well with both hands.

[buster007]

if u win by ko it really doesn't mean sfa whether it took 1 punch or 4 punches. it's just nit-picking to down play greens power shots tbh.

it's like when a horse wins the melbourne cup, there's always someone who will say 'yeah but it only won by a nose'. the punters still win, the owner gets the same prizemoney and the horse still goes in the record books as being the melbourne cup winner.

[shanemfr]

So George foreman wasn't a power puncher either, he didn't one punch KO everyone, a power puncher is someone who can drop someone with one punch and have them wobbling everywhere and finish them off after the 8 count or keep puttin them down 3 times in the one round, it doesn't mean they have to KO them cold with it, similar to Corrales, Margarito etc, they are/were known as power punchers.

To wobble and drop people with just a jab, or have guys stopped like Lucas that was said to have an iron Jaw whether it be by KO or tko and say they aren't power punches that did it is just retarded.