Wlad vs Marciano

[BewareofDawg]

Remember Wlad vs Brewster? How much bigger Wlad appeared? Brewster was 4inches bigger and 30lbs heavier than Marciano. Wlad would be, on fight night 9 inches taller and 50lbs heavier than him.


Anyone that thinks Wlad loses this fight is 1 of 3 things....or mayb all 3:
1) An Idiot
2) Uninformed
3) A Hater

:good

[Thread Stealer]

Wlad wins.

[BewareofDawg]

Wlad wins.
You sir, are none of the 3 :yep

[Rumsfeld]

Marciano KO1 via the breeze of his first feint. Total mismatch! :smoke

[BewareofDawg]

Marciano KO1 via the breeze of his first feint. Total mismatch! :smoke
#1 and #3

[RUSKULL]

Marciano KO1 via the breeze of his first feint. Total mismatch! :smoke

Hater!

[unclepaulie]

Marciano TKO 1 before the fight actually starts, during the stare down Wlad crumples to the ground is utter terror.

[Relentless]

marciano brutally anally rapes waldo with his thumb.

[Luigi1985]

Marciano KO 1 Wlad

First of all, Marciano was Italian-American, that´s why I pick him, secondly, Wlad never fought a fighter like Rocky, when a bum like Puritty, mediocre fighters like Sanders and Brewster can KO him, can you immagine what Marciano would do?



















:lol:

No, seriously, you can´t take a fighter from an era who is over 50 years ago, and put him in against a modern fighter, when, we would need to judge it more p4p or anything like that...

[BewareofDawg]

marciano brutally anally rapes waldo with his thumb.
Leave my thread Relentless. :good

[BewareofDawg]

I refuse to take any of your posts seriously after you had the nerve to tell me that Marciano was bigger than Tyson.
:rofl

[Luigi1985]

I refuse to take any of your posts seriously after you had the nerve to tell me that Marciano was bigger than Tyson.

I didn´t say he was bigger, I said he wasn´t the 185 lbs-man who was so small. He fought in a time, where the modern nutrition with all their helps like good supplements, cures, etc. didn´t exist. And Marciano always trained like a spartan, to fought 15 rounds in a very high pace. When he retired, he immeditaly weighted about 250 lbs (reported), Tyson on the other side, when he retired, only his belly grow, IMO Marciano was at least as big naturally than Tyson, don´t forget there is a over 30-years period of time... (and don´t come now with the shit, that he was at the age of 13 so big yet)

[Relentless]

Leave my thread Relentless. :good

happy cocktober:happy

[C. M. Clay II]

I didn´t say he was bigger, I said he wasn´t the 185 lbs-man who was so small. He fought in a time, where the modern nutrition with all their helps like good supplements, cures, etc. didn´t exist. And Marciano always trained like a spartan, to fought 15 rounds in a very high pace. When he retired, he immeditaly weighted about 250 lbs (reported), Tyson on the other side, when he retired, only his belly grow, IMO Marciano was at least as big naturally than Tyson, don´t forget there is a over 30-years period of time... (and don´t come now with the shit, that he was at the age of 13 so big yet)

:tired

[Luigi1985]

:tired


As a person, who boxes since the age of 8, makes bodybuilding since the age of 13, I think my opinion about gaining weight/ natural bulding, etc. judges more than your Tyson-nuthugging...

[BewareofDawg]

As a person, who boxes since the age of 8, makes bodybuilding since the age of 13, I think my opinion about gaining weight/ natural bulding, etc. judges more than your Tyson-nuthugging...
How old are you? 14 :huh

[BewareofDawg]

How old are you? 14 :huh

And yeah, because we all know BODYBUILDING is great cross-training for boxing :rofl :rofl :nut

[Luigi1985]

And yeah, because we all know BODYBUILDING is great cross-training for boxing :rofl :rofl :nut


For a professional perhaps, but even than it´s a myth, that muscles derogate, it can be, why do you talk about things you don´t know?

[Luigi1985]

How old are you? 14 :huh


1985 to 2007, add it yourself...

[Luigi1985]

Now I know why I usually don´t post in the GBF... :D

[BewareofDawg]

For a professional perhaps, but even than it´s a myth, that muscles derogate, it can be, why do you talk about things you don´t know?
When I hear the term "bodybuilding" I think sculpting your body for competitions and such. Excessive weightlifting, full-time weightlifting? That friend is awful for boxing. Tight muscles may be trained to lift alot, but they are slow to react.

[BewareofDawg]

1985 to 2007, add it yourself...
1981 to 2007....so respect your elders :lol: :good

[Luigi1985]

When I hear the term "bodybuilding" I think sculpting your body for competitions and such. Excessive weightlifting, full-time weightlifting? That friend is awful for boxing. Tight muscles may be trained to lift alot, but they are slow to react.


No, it depends what kind of fighter you´re. I´m a little small for a HW (think 5´9 or 5´10, don´t know in American), but I´m big witout being fat, and I´m a brawler, so it doesn´t make me worse when I gain for example 15 lbs after christmas or so, if you´re a boxer who lives because of your handspeed/combinations or so, than it wouldn´t be a good idea of course...

[Luigi1985]

1981 to 2007....so respect your elders :lol: :good


How old are you?

[BewareofDawg]

No, it depends what kind of fighter you´re. I´m a little small for a HW (think 5´9 or 5´10, don´t know in American), but I´m big witout being fat, and I´m a brawler, so it doesn´t make me worse when I gain for example 15 lbs after christmas or so, if you´re a boxer who lives because of your handspeed/combinations or so, than it wouldn´t be a good idea of course...
Got ya :good Also I guess if you started both at a young age, your body is accustomed to it.

[Relentless]

add it yourself.

[BewareofDawg]

How old are you?
25 going on 26.

[Luigi1985]

Got ya :good Also I guess if you started both at a young age, your body is accustomed to it.


Exactly! :thumbsup

[Luigi1985]

Oh, shit, now I read it, you wrote 81-07, and I thaught wtf is "Relentless" talking about with "Add it yourself"... :lol:

[BewareofDawg]

Oh, shit, now I read it, you wrote 81-07, and I thaught wtf is "Relentless" talking about with "Add it yourself"... :lol:
A very common thought on this forum :yep

[Luigi1985]

A very common thought on this forum :yep


Really? :lol: I don´t know, I´m normally more in the Classic Section... but there you gets frustated more and more with the time...

[BewareofDawg]

Really? :lol: I don´t know, I´m normally more in the Classic Section... but there you gets frustated more and more with the time...
Really :deal

Take nothing he posts serious. He is as dumb as dogshit :yep

[Luigi1985]

Really :deal

Take nothing he posts serious. He is as dumb as dogshit :yep


Hard formulated , but good to know, thx! :good

[Relentless]

A very common thought on this forum :yep

hey irishdawg/jack presscot/dan almeida or what ever you like to call yourself nowadays, go fuck a donkey.

[BewareofDawg]

hey irishdawg/jack presscot/dan almeida or what ever you like to call yourself nowadays, go fuck a donkey.
See :rofl :rofl :rofl

[LogDog69]

marciano brutally anally rapes waldo with his thumb.


:lol: :lol:

[Mega Lamps]

It would be a difficult fight for both of them and Wlad has size with good skills to match. Wlad has lost to lesser opponents and Marciano would use his size to an advantage and push Wlad more than he can handle.
Marciano stops him in the mid to late rounds.

[Luigi1985]

Marciano would be a Super Middleweight today... Maybe a light heavyweight.


No, he would probably fight at 154 lbs or even 147 lbs...

[Hank]

Remember Wlad vs Brewster? How much bigger Wlad appeared? Brewster was 4inches bigger and 30lbs heavier than Marciano. Wlad would be, on fight night 9 inches taller and 50lbs heavier than him.


Anyone that thinks Wlad loses this fight is 1 of 3 things....or mayb all 3:
1) An Idiot
2) Uninformed
3) A Hater

:good

You're all three.

[Hank]

Marciano would be a Super Middleweight today... Maybe a light heavyweight.

Why? He never could get down to lightheavy, he was a shredded lean fghter at 184-196 (first walcott fight, second Charles fight)

[Hank]

And yeah, because we all know BODYBUILDING is great cross-training for boxing :rofl :rofl :nut
Your right, it isn't. That is why Klitchko would not win. He has a midlleweights head on a 6'7" body. If not for weights he's be about 40 pounds lighter.

[IMTKO2005]

I am a very big fan of Wlad, and i think that what would happen is the following:

Wlad would get knocked out in the very first round. Why ? Marciano had an extremely hard punch, incredible chin, and tremendous stamina. Wlad has a very questinable chin, and all it would take is for Marciano to get close just once.

[Stinky gloves]

Remember Wlad vs Brewster? How much bigger Wlad appeared? Brewster was 4inches bigger and 30lbs heavier than Marciano. Wlad would be, on fight night 9 inches taller and 50lbs heavier than him.

I like Wlad but your argument is completely stupid. :patsch
Do you remeber Wlad-Brester I, the size difference was tha same as Wlad-Brewster II. :tong

The true difference was that there was not the same Wald and not the same Brewster in both fights.

I think Marciano would be a much better vesion of Brewster from the first fight.
Rocky was perfect body puncher and that was the reason Brewster won first fight.
So I would still prefer Wlad to KO Rocky but I think there is great possibility Wald will be knocked out as well.
Size difference have nothing to do with this.

[BewareofDawg]

I like Wlad but your argument is completely stupid. :patsch
Do you remeber Wlad-Brester I, the size difference was tha same as Wlad-Brewster II. :tong

The true difference was that there was not the same Wald and not the same Brewster in both fights.

I think Marciano would be a much better vesion of Brewster from the first fight.
Rocky was perfect body puncher and that was the reason Brewster won first fight.
So I would still prefer Wlad to KO Rocky but I think there is great possibility Wald will be knocked out as well.
Size difference have nothing to do with this.
No, Stinky. My argument wasn't stupid. I was simply putting the size difference into perspective, by using how much bigger Wlad was then a guy that is much bigger than Marciano. There is a such thing as a size advantage that is just too much to overcome, and it exists in this hypothetical and mythical matchup :deal

[BewareofDawg]

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Size difference have nothing to do with this.
Really? Marciano would be like 9 inches shorter and 50lbs lighter. Picture Barrera vs Pavlik :good Only a bigger difference!!!!!!! :yikes

[youthmann]

Remember Wlad vs Brewster? How much bigger Wlad appeared? Brewster was 4inches bigger and 30lbs heavier than Marciano. Wlad would be, on fight night 9 inches taller and 50lbs heavier than him.


Anyone that thinks Wlad loses this fight is 1 of 3 things....or mayb all 3:
1) An Idiot
2) Uninformed
3) A Hater

:good

Nice start on a tread. Agree with me or be an idiot!!!!

Do you only want a monolog or what.

- By the way - Marciano would rape wlad in 1-2 rounds.

[BewareofDawg]

Nice start on a tread. Agree with me or be an idiot!!!!

Do you only want a monolog or what.

- By the way - Marciano would rape wlad in 1-2 rounds.
What are you basing that off of. Marciano never faced an elite boxer over 215lbs. His power was never even tested in the Heavyweight division. The only true heavyweight he ever KO'd was an old, motivated for only money, way past his prime Joe Louis. And Louis was a very small Heavyweight by todays standards. The guy was 185lbs, and his opponents were similar in size.

[Stinky gloves]

No, Stinky. My argument wasn't stupid. I was simply putting the size difference into perspective, by using how much bigger Wlad was then a guy that is much bigger than Marciano. There is a such thing as a size advantage that is just too much to overcome, and it exists in this hypothetical and mythical matchup :deal

But you have used wrong example: Brewster. Brewster knock Wlad out
in the first fight and the size difference was exactly the same then.
So from your point of view Wlad should have exactly the same advantage
in both fights and should both times knock Brewster out, which he did not.

Wlad much improved from first fight and Brewster much more declined.
Marciano would have better tools than Brewster ever had.
Marciano is short but more relentless than "relentless" Brewster.
Marciano had at least the same chin or better and much better stamina.
Marciano was also much better body puncher than Brewster.

So still I think Wald power and size overall would be too much
but I will guve like 40-50% for Marciano to knock Wlad out
due to Wlad's poor stamina (when fight is rough) and suspect chin.

[BewareofDawg]

Wlad much improved from first fight and Brewster much more declined.
Marciano would have better tools than Brewster ever had.
Marciano is short but more relentless than "relentless" Brewster.
Marciano had at least the same chin or better and much better stamina.
Marciano was also much better body puncher than Brewster.

So still I think Wald power and size overall would be too much
but I will guve like 40-50% for Marciano to knock Wlad out
due to Wlad's poor stamina (when fight is rough) and suspect chin.
Marcianos chin was never even tested by a Heavyweight puncher. What do you think would happen if some of the B-level Heavyweights of today started fighting Cruiserweights. Brewster would be fucking killing people, thats what would happen. Chris Byrd would be knocking fighters out, and no Cruiserweight would come close to hurting Wlad, let alone surviving two rounds with him. :deal

Your comparing Marciano to Brewster. One fighter fights guys 225lb and up, and the other fought guys 200lbs and down.

[Stinky gloves]

Marciano never faced an elite boxer over 215lbs. His power was never even tested in the Heavyweight division. The only true heavyweight he ever KO'd was an old, motivated for only money, way past his prime Joe Louis. And Louis was a very small Heavyweight by todays standards. The guy was 185lbs, and his opponents were similar in size.

Mostly yes, but there were also some huge guys on his scrap:

Jerry Humphrey Jackson ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) 254 lb
James Patrick Connolly ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) 213 lb
Artie Donato ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) 201 lb
Eldridge Eatman ([Only registered and activated users can see links])206¾lb
Johnny Shkor ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) 220½ lb
Bill Wilson ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) 229½ lb
Joe Louis ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) 213¾ lb
Don Cockell ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) 205 lb

Not really as big as Wlad and most of them not really world class,
but I think if Marciano fight in these times he would definitely be around 200 lb.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Marciano would be smallish Light Heavyweight today. I love Marciano, but Wlad would destroy him, and fast. I love Marciano, but you can't forget that fact that he wasn't the most gifted fighter, and he weighed 15 pounds under today's Cruiserweight Limit. Marciano was all heart, determination, power, and spirit. That carries him great against guys from his era, of his stature... but not against someone like Wlad. With the combination of skill, size, speed, power, and pedigree.

[BewareofDawg]

Mostly yes, but there were also some huge guys on his scrap:

Jerry Humphrey Jackson ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) 254 lb
James Patrick Connolly ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) 213 lb
Artie Donato ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) 201 lb
Eldridge Eatman ([Only registered and activated users can see links])206¾lb
Johnny Shkor ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) 220½ lb
Bill Wilson ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) 229½ lb
Joe Louis ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) 213¾ lb
Don Cockell ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) 205 lb

Not really as big as Wlad and most of them not really world class,
but I think if Marciano fight in these times he would definitely be around 200 lb.
Huge? Are you joking??? The first guy you listed had a record of 2-1 when Marciano fought him :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :patsch Joe Louis was already retired, that brings me to Bill Wilson...who? Please stop this!!! :lol:

[Stinky gloves]

Marcianos chin was never even tested by a Heavyweight puncher. What do you think would happen if some of the B-level Heavyweights of today started fighting Cruiserweights. Brewster would be fucking killing people, thats what would happen. Chris Byrd would be knocking fighters out, and no Cruiserweight would come close to hurting Wlad, let alone surviving two rounds with him. :deal

Your comparing Marciano to Brewster. One fighter fights guys 225lb and up, and the other fought guys 200lbs and down.

Yes Brewster is bigger and probably stronger than Marciano
but the "relentless" part go to Rocky for sure.
As Byrd the only he have he is slicker, he have no tolls to compete with Wlad.
I agree with you that Wlad have big advantages over Rocky and probably would win.

But Rocky have proper tolls to be beat Wald either.
What somebody needs against Wald is to be relentless to soften his body,
have great chin to compete for long time enough untill Wlad stamina run off
and have power to hurt him at the final stage ...

Peter is someone who have similar tolls but his lack of boxing skills did not allowed him to finish Wlad.
I believe that Marciano skills were much bigger and he might use them properly.
Still 50-60 % for Wlad to KO Rocky.

[brownshell]

Vlad would pee his trunks when he realizes the Rocks power. Remember, you have to bring ass to get ass and when Vlad brought his ass to the Rock it would get knocked off!

[Stinky gloves]

Huge? Are you joking??? The first guy you listed had a record of 2-1 when Marciano fought him :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :patsch Joe Louis was already retired, that brings me to Bill Wilson...who? Please stop this!!! :lol:
Wald is like 20-30 lb bigger than these guys but he is much taller than them.
So from the point of body strenghts he in on similar level.
The only adventage he have is he is taller and have bigger reach.
But that makes your statement about the weight difference false.


The difference is Marciano was 5'10 and Wlad is 6'6 tall.
Marciano strenght at 190 lb may be the same as Wald strenght at 240 lb.
We are not talking about Oven Beck, Marciano is ATG and his power was exceptional.

So if Rocky was fast enough to go to close distance with Wlad then
the size difference and mass weight is not relevant, was he fastb enough or not?

[joe33]

To all the guys saying the rock would lose badly,what though do you see happening once he gets in under wlads jab,and i believe he would do it a few times at least,wlad cant fight inside,id hate to see the damage rocky would do once in range,imagine he exlploded some of his bombs on wlads chin?,you tell me what would occur?,i guess though the sheer size of wlad,may keep him back all night,with his hurtful jabs,but i can see marciano getting in a few times.He also had in the past dodgy stamina,and we all know maricano could throw punches all night,joe louis said it was like fighting a human windmill.

[BewareofDawg]

To all the guys saying the rock would lose badly,what though do you see happening once he gets in under wlads jab,and i believe he would do it a few times at least,wlad cant fight inside,id hate to see the damage rocky would do once in range,imagine he exlploded some of his bombs on wlads chin?,you tell me what would occur?,i guess though the sheer size of wlad,may keep him back all night,with his hurtful jabs,but i can see marciano getting in a few times.He also had in the past dodgy stamina,and we all know maricano could throw punches all night,joe louis said it was like fighting a human windmill.
If he got inside and was able to fire off some hooks to the body then chin, he could have some success.

[BewareofDawg]

However, I feel Wlad is too fast on his feet and has a far too effective jab.

[joe33]

If he got inside and was able to fire off some hooks to the body then chin, he could have some success.

Id say so to,i can see wlad freaking out not knowing what to do,he has done that in the past,while when rock fell behind and went down before,he stayed calm,and just threw more punches till the guys he faced collapsed.

[joe33]

However, I feel Wlad is too fast on his feet and has a far too effective jab.

I agree to a point,but seriously think wlad lacks other offensive punches,he dont ever seem to uppercut at all,i would give the rock a fair to decent chance.

[BewareofDawg]

I agree to a point,but seriously think wlad lacks other offensive punches,he dont ever seem to uppercut at all,i would give the rock a fair to decent chance.
The uppercut is the missing link from Wlads arsenal. With Wlads jab, straight right and foot movement (he does have very good foot work), I think for Rocky to get in he would literally have to almost put his head completely down and lunge in. This would, most likely, leave him almost not knowing exactly where he or Wlad is precisely and lost for a small moment, Wlad would then just octopus him real quick or push him off and move.

[Hank]

Marcianos chin was never even tested by a Heavyweight puncher. What do you think would happen if some of the B-level Heavyweights of today started fighting Cruiserweights. Brewster would be fucking killing people, thats what would happen. Chris Byrd would be knocking fighters out, and no Cruiserweight would come close to hurting Wlad, let alone surviving two rounds with him. :deal

Your comparing Marciano to Brewster. One fighter fights guys 225lb and up, and the other fought guys 200lbs and down.

So let's just determine winners at weigh ins. :think

[MagnificentMatt]

Marciano TKO 1 before the fight actually starts, during the stare down Wlad crumples to the ground is utter terror.

Yes, as Wlad bends over to stare into his eyes..:oops:

[joe the great]

If the Wlad that fought Sanders shows up Marciano KO 1.

[El Bombasto]

Wlad wins this mismatch in 5

[SOUTHERMOST]

Two different era and too much size difference Wlad will ko him in 2 or 3 rounds.

[cross_trainer]

Both sides are too extreme here. Why must Marciano always polarize opinion?

[Butch Coolidge]

If Marciano got inside, which he wouldn't in the first place, a prime Klitschko would simply tie him up in a clinch. The green version of Klitschko didn't really understand that concept.

Also, btw, I think Sanders and a lot of other heavyweights would have beaten Rocky into a bloody pulp. For example; Lennox Lewis, Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, Larry Holmes, Michael Moorer, Muhamad Ali, Joe Frazier, Jerry Quarry, George Foreman, probably Gerry Cooney, Ray Mercer, Riddick Bowe, Andrew Golota, David Tua, Sonny Liston. Jimmy Young and Chris Byrd would box circles around him. Marciano was king of one of the crappiest eras of heavyweights ever, if not THE crappiest era of heavyweights.

[tays001]

com on you know wlad wins this thread is rediculous

[CHEF]

Marciano KO1 via the breeze of his first feint. Total mismatch! :smoke


:admin :huh :huh
It would be ugly. 9" and 50 lbs... come on man you can't be serious picking Marciano.

(hater)

[joe the great]

If Marciano got inside, which he wouldn't in the first place, a prime Klitschko would simply tie him up in a clinch. The green version of Klitschko didn't really understand that concept.

Also, btw, I think Sanders and a lot of other heavyweights would have beaten Rocky into a bloody pulp. For example; Lennox Lewis, Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, Larry Holmes, Michael Moorer, Muhamad Ali, Joe Frazier, Jerry Quarry, George Foreman, probably Gerry Cooney, Ray Mercer, Riddick Bowe, Andrew Golota, David Tua, Sonny Liston. Jimmy Young and Chris Byrd would box circles around him. Marciano was king of one of the crappiest eras of heavyweights ever, if not THE crappiest era of heavyweights.
Jeez! :patsch Dude Marciano beat some very good fighters in his time. I think even his beating of Louis was very comparable to Lennox Lewis beating of Tyson. They were both the same age. Sanders who got KO'd by Nate Tubbs? That Sanders would beat Marciano to a bloody pulp? Jerry Quarry? Nevr champion Jerry Quarry or never champ Gerry Cooney beat Marciano? :huh

[Butch Coolidge]

Jeez! :patsch Dude Marciano beat some very good fighters in his time. I think even his beating of Louis was very comparable to Lennox Lewis beating of Tyson. They were both the same age. Sanders who got KO'd by Nate Tubbs? That Sanders would beat Marciano to a bloody pulp? Jerry Quarry? Nevr champion Jerry Quarry or never champ Gerry Cooney beat Marciano? :huh

Yes, that Sanders would beat Marciano to a bloody pulp. If a light heavyweight punched Marciano's nose off I can only imagine what a fighter who is faster and hits harder would do to him. Marciano is the most overrated boxer of all time. Quarry would beat him, Cooney would beat him, really there's a lot of guys since him who were and are much better. Take a look at the winning percentage of his competition and compare it to other champion's opponent's winning percentage and you'll start getting an idea of what I'm talking about. My honest opinion is that Marciano built his reputation from going undefeated while competing against guys who wouldn't be B list fighters today eg LaStarza or would not even be heavyweights today. If Marciano was around today and I was his manager he wouldn't even be in the ring fighting larger men. I think Sanders would tear through him the way he tore through Bobby Czyz considering Czyz is close to Marciano's stature, a bit heavier and probably equally fast as Marciano with a comparable chin, which is not a ridiculous assertion considering Marciano never faced a fighter capable as punching as hard as today's heavies. His chin is famed for withstanding the bombs of opponents who weighed around 190lbs or so and even then the Rock landed on the canvas a few times.

[joe the great]

Yes, that Sanders would beat Marciano to a bloody pulp. If a light heavyweight punched Marciano's nose off I can only imagine what a fighter who is faster and hits harder would do to him. Marciano is the most overrated boxer of all time. Quarry would beat him, Cooney would beat him, really there's a lot of guys since him who were and are much better. Take a look at the winning percentage of his competition and compare it to other champion's opponent's winning percentage and you'll start getting an idea of what I'm talking about. My honest opinion is that Marciano built his reputation from going undefeated while competing against guys who wouldn't be B list fighters today eg LaStarza or would not even be heavyweights today. If Marciano was around today and I was his manager he wouldn't even be in the ring fighting larger men. I think Sanders would tear through him the way he tore through Bobby Czyz considering Czyz is close to Marciano's stature, a bit heavier and probably equally fast as Marciano with a comparable chin, which is not a ridiculous assertion considering Marciano never faced a fighter capable as punching as hard as today's heavies. His chin is famed for withstanding the bombs of opponents who weighed around 190lbs or so and even then the Rock landed on the canvas a few times. If Marciano was around today he'd probably be about 205-210, because he would probably be on supplements that they didn't have then or roids like some of these other guys. La Starza was a really good fighter. Heck even Ali struggled with guys that were 183 pounds. Marciano beat some great fighters. Champions like Charles, Walcott and Louis. Louis was 218 pounds when they met. He was a bit past his prime but still a very good fighter. I believe that he was on a seven fight win streak. Very comparable to Holyfield when he fought Tyson or Lewis when he fought Tyson.
Actually when Holyfield fought and beat Tyson for the Title he was 4-3 his previous seven fights. Holyfield was considered a blown up cruiser by many.

[Carlos Primera]

1st right hand wlad lands, goes off like a howitzer and sparks marciano inside 3.

[ralphc]

Remember Wlad vs Brewster? How much bigger Wlad appeared? Brewster was 4inches bigger and 30lbs heavier than Marciano. Wlad would be, on fight night 9 inches taller and 50lbs heavier than him.


Anyone that thinks Wlad loses this fight is 1 of 3 things....or mayb all 3:
1) An Idiot
2) Uninformed
3) A Hater

:good


In their time Marciano and Klitschko fought under a different set of rules, and a different level of rule enforcement. Marciano had a solution for bums like Klitchko who turn boxing into a grappling contest, headbutts and elbows are an effective way of reducing or eliminating needless clinching. Klitschko doesn't like to get hit, one elbow to the face will stop him from clinching. If he is forced to fight all 15 rounds, would Klitchko be man enough to do it? We have seen how he reacts under pressure. I am not so sure that Marciano could actually beat Klitschko, it would likely be a case of Klitschko beating himself. It would not surprise me to see Klitschko collapse under the relentless pressure that Marciano would put him under.