Enzo Maccarinelli vs. Darnell Wilson

[Superheavyweight]

Maccarinelli TKO 7

[Zakman]

Ding is gonna ANNIHILATE the shaky-chinned Maccarinelli. Jiminy Christmas, this guy got starched by some tomato can! He is a knockout waiting to happen, and against Ding, it WILL happen. :yep

[Max Molyneux]

Ding is gonna ANNIHILATE the shaky-chinned Maccarinelli. Jiminy Christmas, this guy got starched by some tomato can! He is a knockout waiting to happen, and against Ding, it WILL happen. :yep

Mac hits harder than Davis and Dale Brown, Ding won't want to take too many Enzo bombs.:yep

Enzo will box rings around Ding.:deal

Enzo was a 19 year old novice pro when Lee Swaby Ko'ed him.

[Steve Fox]

Some of the shit people spout about Enzo is ridiculous. I guess they must be his fans, but how on earth they can call Enzo's performance against Braithwaite world class is beyond me. Enzo is a talented but unproven fighter and Ding offers a genuine threat. I just can't see FW allowing this fight to happen.

[Max Molyneux]

Some of the shit people spout about Enzo is ridiculous. I guess they must be his fans, but how on earth they can call Enzo's performance against Braithwaite world class is beyond me. Enzo is a talented but unproven fighter and Ding offers a genuine threat. I just can't see FW allowing this fight to happen.

Your a well known hater of fighters just because Frank ****** promotes them.

You even thought Froch had a chance against Calzaghe.

Enzo proved he can take a punch, proved he can got 12 rounds and be fresh and shown much more skill then he ever did.

More than what Haye has done until he fights Mormeck.

[Zakman]

Mac hits harder than Davis and Dale Brown, Ding won't want to take too many Enzo bombs.:yep

Enzo will box rings around Ding.:deal

Enzo was a 19 year old novice pro when Lee Swaby Ko'ed him.
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You mean THIS Lee Swaby, who has 11 knockouts in 41 fights (of which Maccinarelli is, of course, one) and has himself been KOd SIX times!! :patsch

Fighters with decent chins don't get starched by guys like this, however old they are. And it's not like he hasn't been rocked since by lesser fighters than Wilson since!

And the fact that Maccinarelli DIDN'T himself knock out this guy should raise questions about how hard he in fact does hit. Ding can handle Maccarinelli's "bombs" - the real question is whether he can handle the crushing power Wilson brings. Based on the track record, at the very least, it's a major question.

[Max Molyneux]

No matter how good Ding's chin Is he will not want to eat too many of Enzo's. It's all good having a punch but what's the use when you can't land It? He might land but he won't be able to generate enough to hurt Enzo.

I remember you agreed with me on Enzo's chin once.

So because Enzo didn't Ko Swaby raises questions about his power how? Enzo was the first to stop Dominguez and Enzo has scored many early Ko's to say that he has unquestionable power.

My point Is chins don't aways judge whos going to win.

[EspadaYdaga]

Koki Kameda

[Axe]

Macca was a skinny teenager when he lost against Swaby.

Today he is in his prime.

Ding is a good fighter whom I truly respect, but Macca wins this via brutal KO.

[Steve Fox]

Your a well known hater of fighters just because Frank ****** promotes them.

You even thought Froch had a chance against Calzaghe.

Enzo proved he can take a punch, proved he can got 12 rounds and be fresh and shown much more skill then he ever did.

More than what Haye has done until he fights Mormeck.I'm a hater of the way FW does business and the way the fans of his fighters excuse the piss-poor match-making. Braithwaite offered nothing and Enzo showed us no more than we all ready knew - he has solid fundamentals. He took no punches of any real consequence, the fight was fought at a fairly pedestrian pace and for some bizarre reason his fans came out claiming it illustrated his world class pedigree. Enzo is a 'world' champion who has never fought anyone resembling a genuine contender.
As for Froch, well there's no proof that he wouldn't beat JC.

[EspadaYdaga]

There is no proof that I wouldn't beat a prime Mike Tyson :roll:

I like Froch, the cocky fucker, but he would be way way out his league against Calzaghe.

[China_hand_Joe]

Enzo Calzaghe's genius UD Ding.

[Zakman]

No matter how good Ding's chin Is he will not want to eat too many of Enzo's. It's all good having a punch but what's the use when you can't land It? He might land but he won't be able to generate enough to hurt Enzo.

I remember you agreed with me on Enzo's chin once.

So because Enzo didn't Ko Swaby raises questions about his power how? Enzo was the first to stop Dominguez and Enzo has scored many early Ko's to say that he has unquestionable power.

My point Is chins don't aways judge whos going to win.

Not always, sure. But here the disparity is SO wide, that unless Mac is able to avoid Ding's punches for the duration, he will get taken out at some point.

Now, I will agree with you on this - IF he is able to avoid taking a clean shot, then he probably does win a clear UD. But I don't think that's gonna happen.

[Steve Fox]

There is no proof that I wouldn't beat a prime Mike Tyson :roll:

I like Froch, the cocky fucker, but he would be way way out his league against Calzaghe.Are you a HW boxer? No? Then you have made a truly fucking stupid point. Froch is blatently better than a vast majority of JC's opponents.

[Max Molyneux]

I'm a hater of the way FW does business and the way the fans of his fighters excuse the piss-poor match-making. Braithwaite offered nothing and Enzo showed us no more than we all ready knew - he has solid fundamentals. He took no punches of any real consequence, the fight was fought at a fairly pedestrian pace and for some bizarre reason his fans came out claiming it illustrated his world class pedigree. Enzo is a 'world' champion who has never fought anyone resembling a genuine contender.
As for Froch, well there's no proof that he wouldn't beat JC.

Enzo never shown that much skill before the Braithwaite fight. Hobson was hitting him with half hearted shots In the 1st fight, Enzo's definately shown a high amount of Improvment, his jab was piston like, he survived well when Wayne landed and his defence was solid as he didn't take much punishment and won every round.

The fact that Froch got counter punched by Dale Westerman and at times outboxed by Magee proves that Froch won't be world class.

[Chief_Second]

ding within 5 rounds - enzo is less of a clubber than he used to be, but darnell has way too much for him

[Axe]

Enzo Calzaghe's genius UD Ding.

:lol:

I agree. :good

[allenko1]

Ding!!!

[Max Molyneux]

Enzo Calzaghe's genius UD Ding.

Enzo's brain needs to be preserved!

In Joe's book It mentions how he learned mostly watching Sugar Ray Leonard tapes.

[Steve Fox]

Enzo never shown that much skill before the Braithwaite fight. Hobson was hitting him with half hearted shots In the 1st fight, Enzo's definately shown a high amount of Improvment, his jab was piston like, he survived well when Wayne landed and his defence was solid as he didn't take much punishment and won every round.

The fact that Froch got counter punched by Dale Westerman and at times outboxed by Magee proves that Froch won't be world class.The Braithwaite and Enzo contest was clearly not a fight between two premium boxers and you can talk all the crap you want about improvement and 'piston-like jabs' but as a discerning boxing fan, I was unsatisfied. I guess you must be FW himself or Welsh, because in terms of the world of boxing, that fight provided very little.

[EspadaYdaga]

You made a fucking ridiculous statement, that there is no proof Fighter A wouldn't beat Fighter B. If we had proof there wouldn't be any need for the cunting fight to be discussed now would there, Captain Obvious?

Who the fuck has Froch actually beaten to say hes much better than a number of guys on Calzaghe's record? He doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same sentance, let alone the mooting of a potential fight. The fact he is fighting Robin Reid, a boxer Calzaghe beat 8 years ago is indicative of where they are it in their respective careers. Until Froch actually does something it is pretty safe to assume Calzaghe would hand his arse to him.

[Max Molyneux]

I am English and from Liverpool unlike ****** who Is a Londoner. ****** Is a better promoter than Hennessy and Froch must of been joking If he thought he could offer Calzaghe 1.6 million. Froch has twice turned down a Calzaghe fight too.

Weak fans use this you must be from yada yada when they don't share opinions of other fans.

How can you be unsatisfied? The Enzo who fought Hobson never fought like that and wouldn't of won every round against Braithwaite before he moved to Enzo Calzaghe's gym.

[Chief_Second]

Enzo Maccarinelli has never fought a top 15 figher in his life - how can he be ranked 3????????

[Steve Fox]

You made a fucking ridiculous statement, that there is no proof Fighter A wouldn't beat Fighter B. If we had proof there wouldn't be any need for the cunting fight to be discussed now would there, Captain Obvious?

Who the fuck has Froch actually beaten to say hes much better than a number of guys on Calzaghe's record? He doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same sentance, let alone the mooting of a potential fight. The fact he is fighting Robin Reid, a boxer Calzaghe beat 8 years ago is indicative of where they are it in their respective careers. Until Froch actually does something it is pretty safe to assume Calzaghe would hand his arse to him.'There wouldn't be any need for the fight to be discussed...' what the fuck are you talking about? As for 'Captain Obvious' is that the best you can cunting do? I mean really, Captain Obvious! That's very poor.

[EspadaYdaga]

You are really quite thick. I can only hope the boards havn't had the misfortune of reading a 1000 odd posts of this drivel.

You said there is no proof that Froch can't beat JC. How is that in any way meaningful or insightful? Is there ever any proof Fighter A is going to beat Fighter B until they actually get in the ring? A chimp could have pointed that out.

[Steve Fox]

I am English and from Liverpool unlike ****** who Is a Londoner. ****** Is a better promoter than Hennessy and Froch must of been joking If he thought he could offer Calzaghe 1.6 million. Froch has twice turned down a Calzaghe fight too.

Weak fans use this you must be from yada yada when they don't share opinions of other fans.

How can you be unsatisfied? The Enzo who fought Hobson never fought like that and wouldn't of won every round against Braithwaite before he moved to Enzo Calzaghe's gym.Froch was offered fights against JC - I don't think so.
Now let me ask you a question. Do you think, in terms of world title fights the contest in question was above average, below average or just average?

[Max Molyneux]

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Froch was offered a Calzaghe fight and admitted It. Lol Froch Is only a domestic champ and thinks he can call out a world champ whos been champ for 10 years, It's laughable when Froch hasn't beat no one world class. Where the fuck would he of got 1.6 million too.

It was an average world title fight but an above average Macca fight.

[Steve Fox]

You are really quite thick. I can only hope the boards havn't had the misfortune of reading a 1000 odd posts of this drivel.

You said there is no proof that Froch can't beat JC. How is that in any way meaningful or insightful? Is there ever any proof Fighter A is going to beat Fighter B until they actually get in the ring? A chimp could have pointed that out.Could you just point out to me any meaning or insight you've provided us with, come on smart guy. You've got some bottle calling me thick when you can't spell haven't and use the term 'a 1000 odd posts'.

[box03]

Ding will lay this nobody out quick in hurry, I hope he fights Haye next.

[China_hand_Joe]

Enzo's brain needs to be preserved!

In Joe's book It mentions how he learned mostly watching Sugar Ray Leonard tapes.Sugar Ray Leonard could give Manfredo a strategy to beat Calzaghe, Enzo could have.

[Astola]

OH NO.

Ding would fuck Enzo up.


Whats wrong with you Brits, man? This poll is not anywhere near analysing. Its about many Brits with no clue...

[China_hand_Joe]

OH NO.

Ding would fuck Enzo up.


Whats wrong with you Brits, man? This poll is not anywhere near analysing. Its about many Brits with no clue...

Ding could stop Enzo, if he landed. No doubt about it.

But Enzo would completely outbox Ding unless that happened though, that is 100% certain.

[Brickhaus]

Enzo Maccarinelli has never fought a top 15 figher in his life - how can he be ranked 3????????

Brathwaite?

I feel this would be pick 'em, but lean Enzo. From what I've seen of the two, Enzo appears to be the better boxer. He probably won't KO Ding (although I don't know if I'd call his chin granite - he has been KDed several times before), and Ding punches harder than anyone Enzo has faced thus far, but if Nwodo can outbox Ding for most of a fight, so can Enzo. If Enzo stays focused and can avoid getting tagged without seeing it, he probably wins a fairly wide decision.

[Ding]

This thread is cool, but it's pissing me off, because Enzo and FW are not as confident as alot of you posters. We are doing EVERYTHING to make this fight happen. You can believe me or not, but I got ZERO sparring for my fight with Nwodo, and I am 100% sure that Nwodo is a more devastating puncher than Enzo.

I have watched alot of Enzo's fights and I must say he has improved quite a bit, BUT there are two particular combos that he loves to throw. I wont say what they are, but I will give him the shot, and when he goes for it he will lose by KO. You can quote me on that. :deal


I will not be laying on the outside like I did with Nwodo, just looking to time him only. I'm capable of throwing 100+ punches a round, I have proof.
Just like everyone that spars me and fights me says, I'm a very deceptive fighter. A master of creating a big shot. Unlike Taylor, when I have a man hurt, I will die to finish him.:dead :good


I have my promotional staff and PR people working hard to make this happen. You guys that belive Enzo will easily defeat me, LOL. Give him and his team a call and convince them the same. THANKS

[Ding]

Brathwaite?

I feel this would be pick 'em, but lean Enzo. From what I've seen of the two, Enzo appears to be the better boxer. He probably won't KO Ding (although I don't know if I'd call his chin granite - he has been KDed several times before), and Ding punches harder than anyone Enzo has faced thus far, but if Nwodo can outbox Ding for most of a fight, so can Enzo. If Enzo stays focused and can avoid getting tagged without seeing it, he probably wins a fairly wide decision.



LOL

[Ding]

Maccarinelli TKO 7





:bananamaniac

[China_hand_Joe]

You guys that belive Enzo will easily defeat me, LOL. Give him and his team a call and convince them the same. THANKS

It would be foolish to claim Enzo wins easily as the fight is such a massive risk. ****** would understandably be reluctant to put Enzo's chin in with any massive puncher.

But he is trained by the legendary Enzo Calzaghe, so would undoubtably employ a perfect game plan to try and ensure you did not catch up to him. I consider Enzo the favorite simply because I believe he'd last the 12 more than 50% of the time.

[Ding]

Btw, someone asked me in another thread what my weight was. 2 weeks ago, I was 225. Now I'm about 213, and by the end of the week I'll be about 207. My body holds lots of fluids, hence the dramatic loss of weight.

[box03]

Btw, someone asked me in another thread what my weight was. 2 weeks ago, I was 225. Now I'm about 213, and by the end of the week I'll be about 207. My body holds lots of fluids, hence the dramatic loss of weight. good luck Ding, I hope you put this guy to sleep early. Do think after you KO Enzo will you pursue a guy like Haye or Mormeck?

[41fever]

Ding will KO him

[teetop]

Btw, someone asked me in another thread what my weight was. 2 weeks ago, I was 225. Now I'm about 213, and by the end of the week I'll be about 207. My body holds lots of fluids, hence the dramatic loss of weight.

If your cutting that much weight you must have a fight near. Yes?

And another thing darnell. Why are you wanting mac. Don't you get the winner of haye/mormeck?

[brooklyn1550]

If Maccarinelli wants to go toe to toe, he gets stopped. If he wants to use his boxing skills, Ding must be able to work his way inside and rip to the body. If he can do that, he will find his head with a big shot and put him away.

[Ding]

If your cutting that much weight you must have a fight near. Yes?

And another thing darnell. Why are you wanting mac. Don't you get the winner of haye/mormeck?


I my dreams dude, I wish thats what was going down. Otherwise, I wouldn't be talkin shit right now. LOL

[box03]

If Maccarinelli wants to go toe to toe, he gets stopped. If he wants to use his boxing skills, Ding must be able to work his way inside and rip to the body. If he can do that, he will find his head with a big shot and put him away. Ding is a great hooker, I dont think Enzo will be able to bang with Ding and if he does it will end early.

[brooklyn1550]

Ding is a great hooker, I dont think Enzo will be able to bang with Ding and if he does it will end early.

Agreed...Enzo needs to stay on the outside and use his boxing skills. If he gets in a toe to toe war, it will come down to who can take a better shot. I think Ding does and I think he would find the mark with a massive hook right on the button.

[teetop]

I my dreams dude, I wish thats what was going down. Otherwise, I wounldn't be talkin shit right now. LOL

Actually nevermind ding. just read on b-talk macca has no opponent
for his title defense on the calz/kess undercard, and you are trying to
fill that spot. I thought you were no. 1# contender to the WBC title
so you were next in line for that shot. BTW. Who do you like in the
joe/mikkel fight.

[Words]

How come you dont fight the winner of Haye - Mormeck then Ding? Cant you make the WBC enforce its mandatory challenger?

I dont fancy your chances against Enzo coz he's a lot taller and rangier than you. He'll keep you on the end of the jab and spoil the whole night. If he goes to war with you he loses, and so I dont think he will have any intention of trading.

[Ding]

Actually nevermind ding. just read on b-talk macca has no opponent
for his title defense on the calz/kess undercard, and you are trying to
fill that spot. I thought you were no. 1# contender to the WBC title
so you were next in line for that shot. BTW. Who do you like in the
joe/mikkel fight.



I would not bet on that fight. There are so many intangibles, I'm looking forward to this one. Hopefully I'll get to see it real close after smacking Enzo upside the head.:smoke

[Ding]

How come you dont fight the winner of Haye - Mormeck then Ding? Cant you make the WBC enforce its mandatory challenger?

I dont fancy your chances against Enzo coz he's a lot taller and rangier than you. He'll keep you on the end of the jab and spoil the whole night. If he goes to war with you he loses, and so I dont think he will have any intention of trading.


If I was to just pose on the outside and let him pepper me with his jab, I'll give everyone the permission to pay me a visit and go upside my head.:!:

[GazOC]

Enzo isn't stoopid, he's not going to trade with Ding. I hope the fight comes off, it'll be a *******!!

[GazOC]

If I was to just pose on the outside and let him pepper me with his jab, I'll give everyone the permission to pay me a visit and go upside my head.:!:

:good Thats like Mayweather fans seem to think Hatton is going act....;)

[magnificentdave]

i find it interesting that everybody is saying Enzo needs to stay on the outside and try to box Ding, in my opinion, if that was his complete fight strategy, he would get knocked out very quickly by giving Ding the initiative of moving inside.

The only possibility I see of an Enzo win is if Enzo were to fight a very ugly, clinch filled affair and attempted to smother Ding's punches and wear out Ding the entire fight.

If Enzo fights on the OUTside, he gets caught with something big when Ding corners him and he has nowhere left to go...

[Zakman]

LOL

Clearly, that guy doesn't know shit from shinola when it comes to your career.:yep

[Words]

Ding, just found an article from last week claiming that Enzo cant find anyone to fight next month! Thought you might be interested to read how no-one is prepared to face the human bulldozer Enzo Mac. :lol::lol::lol::rofl:rofl:rofl

ENZO LEFT HIGH AND DRY BY WITHDRAWAL

09:00 - 26 September 2007

Enzo Maccarinelli's dream unification title fight with Steve Cunningham has fallen apart with just over a month to go until one of the biggest nights in Welsh boxing.Swansea's WBO cruiserweight champion was hoping to take on his IBF counterpart on the same bill as the colossal fight between Joe Calzaghe and Mikkel Kessler at the Millennium Stadium on November 3.

But Maccarinelli has been left disappointed as the Philadelphia fighter has been told he will instead face his mandatory challenger, unbeaten German Marco Huck.

"As far as I was concerned, Cunningham was the fight I wanted," explained Maccarinelli.

"He made all the right noises before I beat Wayne Braithwaite - but now he is fighting Huck. There is nothing we can really do about it now."

Cunningham's withdrawal has left a void which Maccarinelli is desperate to fill - although a clash between the two will surely come some time in the future.

That void looked to have been filled last week when unbeaten Dane Johny Jensen beat veteran American Lou del Valle to earn himself a shot at Maccarinelli.

The 29-year-old Scandinavian lifted the WBA Inter-Continental belt as a result of his victory, but he has decided not to take up the offer of fighting Maccarinelli.

Despite the lack of opponents coming forward to fight, Maccarinelli is confident his biggest night will not turn into a nightmare.

"It can be frustrating to see all these potential fights go astray, but that has not affected my attitude - I am raring to go," said the 27-year-old.

"Jensen is undefeated and I thought he would have jumped at the chance to fight me, but he hasn't, which is strange.

"But this won't affect me. I have spoken to Frank and he has got a couple of people in mind.

"We will wait and see but it won't stop me from preparing as best as I can.

"I am really looking forward to the night and I am sure it will be a fantastic night for me whoever I am fighting.

"Someone will want to take the belt off me and it is going to be an amazing spectacle.

"With Joe taking on Kessler as well, it should be a magical night for Welsh boxing."

Chris Barney

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Y'see this is what ****** is notorious for doing. Who the HELL is Johnny Jensen? Why take on a willing and dangerous guy like Ding when Johny Jensen is there for the taking. He's from europe, no-one outside his family have heard of him, he's undefeated, and he poses little or no threat at all. DING on the other hand might actually provide a good night's entertainment, and has a shot at winning. That puts him at a massive disadvantage when it comes to getting this fight made. Far too risky for ****** to consider. Stick him in against some unknown european guy with a padded record and a bullshit title, thats the ****** philosophy.


Enzo is a good fighter. Big power, ramrod jab, tall, good fundamentals. I mean him no disrespect. His technique has improved from being a big but raw slugger to something half approaching a world-class boxer. I would even say that his height and jab advantage gives him the edge against Ding (sorry man). But if he wants to be taken seriously as a champion he NEEDS to face tough opposition and stop taking the safety fist route.

The British public will never forgive him for bailing on his fight with David Haye. That fight needed to happen, but they knew that Haye was too much risk for Enzo. Maybe Ding is too much risk too. They certainly dont seem keen on him to face big punchers. Yeah Braithwaite was a big hitter, but not like Haye, Beck or Ding, who are the best KO artists in the division.

Anyway, just thought you'd like to read how your not prepared to fight Enzo.

[Zakman]

They certainly dont seem keen on him to face big punchers.

Hmm, I wonder why?? :lol:

[Words]

PS if you've already seen that I apologize, it just seems to me like Frank ****** is getting ready for Enzo to face another Bobby Gunn type piece of shit rather than a real fighter. How the hell does Johny Jensen get a shot and Ding doesn't! I just looked on boxrec, Johny Jensen's best two wins are UD12 over 40 year old Lou Del Valle, and a UD6 over 42 year old Uriah Grant in 2003! Holy SHIT! I dont care much for Boxrec's raitings, but they dont even have him in the top 50.

[The Exile]

If Enzo signs for the fight against Wilson then he deserve's a lot of credit as it is a seriously dangerous match to take.


If this happens then it has the makings of a cruiserweight classic. Both guys pack some lethal power and i think their styles make this a mouthwatering fight.

I really think this could be a back and forth war for 4-5 rounds with Ding winning by KO.

I am praying for ****** to grow a set of balls and make this fight happen but alas i fear we will end up with another joke opponent and be fed something like "Knowone would fight him as there scared etc blah blah blah"

[Max Molyneux]

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No wonder Ding Is that powerful!

[China_hand_Joe]

****** is not a moron.

Ding with his power possess a risk and a victory over Ding (who had a few unimpressive losses on his resume and would look far shorter) will not get him a load of credit.

[madpup]

I agree. Whilst Wilson has a huge profile on these boards and now a pretty big name in US boxing circles, he is not really known in the UK. This would be a high risk/low reward fight for Enzo. I would be amazed if this fight happen, it just not ******'s style at all.

[Boro chris]

As for Froch, well there's no proof that he wouldn't beat JC.

Unless you've watched their respective fights and come to the innevitable conclusion that Froch really is rather shit.:smoke

[Words]

Exactly, it wont happen. If ****** can get away with Peter Manfredo Jr and Bobby Gunn then there's no way he'll want to put Enzo in there with a big risk like Darnell. If Enzo wants respect he's gonna have to put some pressure on Frank ******. Look at Johnny Nelson, great fighter, but never had a defining fight against Juan Carlos Gomez, Vassily Jirov or anyone else worth noting. Which is a tragedy, coz for all his faults Nelson was a good fighter in his day who deserved more.

[Superheavyweight]

:bbb

[Boom_Boom]

Ding by Motha Effing brutal KO

I dont know why these European champions dont want to mention Ding, hes the only name that can bring in alot of notoriety to their careers in the states.

[duran83]

Get your cocks out of Dings arse, Enzo will easily outbox him.

[Axe]

Get your cocks out of Dings arse, Enzo will easily outbox him.

Someone had to say it. :rofl

[madpup]

Get your cocks out of Dings arse, Enzo will easily outbox him.

Would you bet on this fight happening any time soon? I am with Ding on this one, if only FW and Enzo had the same confidence as fans like you.

[Chief_Second]

ain't gonna happen - frank ****** doesn't let his fighters take on big hitters - especially when they've been ko'd badly before

[China_hand_Joe]

Enzo would get little credit for beating Ding. People would bring up the size difference and Ding's lossess.

[duran83]

Enzo would get little credit for beating Ding. People would bring up the size difference and Ding's lossess.

Ding needs to higher his profile before he gets a shot.

[The Exile]

Ding needs to higher his profile before he gets a shot.





Higher his profile!!! Just like Bobby Gunn the granite human wrecking machine :yep


The fact is they are struggling to find an available opponent and a victory over Wilson would give him credit stateside as most folk outside of the uk/euro have never heard of or seen Enzo in action.

Wilson is certainly a live and valid opponent.

[duran83]

Higher his profile!!! Just like Bobby Gunn the granite human wrecking machine :yep


The fact is they are struggling to find an available opponent and a victory over Wilson would give him credit stateside as most folk outside of the uk/euro have never heard of or seen Enzo in action.

Wilson is certainly a live and valid opponent.

So Mr Ding says he will fight Enzo he gets a shot?

Hey fuck me i want cotto shall i got to fightnews and tell them im ready after he beats Mosley.

[Steve Fox]

Unless you've watched their respective fights and come to the innevitable conclusion that Froch really is rather shit.:smoke What does that smoking face symbolise? Did you consider your comment witty? I'm assuming that you have some interst in boxing or else you wouldn't post comments on here, yet after watching Froch fight the best description you can come up with is 'shit'. Using the smoking symbol seems to show that you have taken pride in making a rather banal comment. That says a lot about you.

[Big Ears]

I would fancy Enzo to win a UD but if the fight does come off(pretty unlikely) somehow then the best of luck to you Ding .

[Danny Ocean]

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Froch was offered a Calzaghe fight and admitted It. Lol Froch Is only a domestic champ and thinks he can call out a world champ whos been champ for 10 years, It's laughable when Froch hasn't beat no one world class. Where the fuck would he of got 1.6 million too.

It was an average world title fight but an above average Macca fight.

****** wanted options on froch though

[achillesthegreat]

Enzo will box Ding and have him reaching all night. He'll stay behind that trusty jab and work heavy hooks and crosses off it. Every now and again he'll put in a good uppercut and nice body shots. He'll keep pumping en route to a UD...

...if Ding survives the pain.

[Zakman]

No way. If just ONE of Ding's bombs connects on that shaky chin, Maccarinelli will hit the canvas, out COLD.

And you know he'll get at least one in....that's all it's gonna take! :nod

[rydersonthestorm]

Maca isn't really as chinny as you make out but i don't see why everyone seems to think he has great boxing skills ( he never even seemed to have much at least until the braithwaite fight), i think darnell could tag him and knock him out. I do however think darnell would lose to the real british cruiserweight threat that is david haye.

[The Exile]

So Mr Ding says he will fight Enzo he gets a shot?

Hey fuck me i want cotto shall i got to fightnews and tell them im ready after he beats Mosley.



You are completely missing the point.


Enzo needs an opponent, ****** says everyone is running scared, Ding is available and wouldnt cost an arm and leg to come over and take the fight.

Wilson would be a legitimate threat and not the usual club fighter that Enzo usually feasts on, are you saying Wilson isnt as credible as some of the jokes Enzo usually fights?

The fact of the matter is that there is no way that ****** will put Enzo in with a dangerous guy on the same night that Calzaghe is fighting Kessler. It would mean the possibilitY of 2 of his main cash machine's losing on the same night - NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.

For the record i think Calzaghe beats Kessler in a brutal fashion and i think Enzo-Wilson would be an absolute war whilst it lasted as both guys hit like mules but in my opinion Wilson would probably win as i can see Enzo getting KO'd with a big counter. Just my opinion.

[Max Molyneux]

No way. If just ONE of Ding's bombs connects on that shaky chin, Maccarinelli will hit the canvas, out COLD.

And you know he'll get at least one in....that's all it's gonna take! :nod

If Dings getting a boxing lesson, he won't land shit.

He looks like a bigger Lacy to me.

Plus Maccarinelli Is trained by Enzo Calzaghe who will have a plan that makes Mac do a Lacy on Ding.

[Max Molyneux]

****** wanted options on froch though

They all say that when dealing with ****** though.

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Why would he need options on Froch when Calzaghe would easily destroy Froch?

[Fedor Em]

If Dings getting a boxing lesson, he won't land shit.

He looks like a bigger Lacy to me.

Plus Maccarinelli Is trained by Enzo Calzaghe who will have a plan that makes Mac do a Lacy on Ding.

Get your nuts out of Mac's and Cals mouth. They want no part of DING and ****** himself said this fight is way too dangerous.

[.trunzx]

Ding KO3 Maccarinelli

[madpup]

If Dings getting a boxing lesson, he won't land shit.

He looks like a bigger Lacy to me.

Plus Maccarinelli Is trained by Enzo Calzaghe who will have a plan that makes Mac do a Lacy on Ding.

But Maccarinelli is not exactly Calzaghe.

[Max Molyneux]

Get your nuts out of Mac's and Cals mouth. They want no part of DING and ****** himself said this fight is way too dangerous.

Are your nuts still In Dings?:D

[Max Molyneux]

But Maccarinelli is not exactly Calzaghe.

True but they have the same trainer who will just use his genuis to give Macca a game plan to give Ding a boxing Lesson.

[Fedor Em]

Are your nuts still In Dings?:D

I just see it how it is and Enzo has been starched by a gatekeeper(I know early in his carrer but still it shows a suspect chin)Ding might be the hardest hitter in the division, not a good senario. Enzo has a great punch himself but Ding very well could have the best chin in the division. Enzo can and will outbox Ding for much of the fight, but over 12 rounds Ding power and pressure are gonna catch up to Enzo and stop him late. Maybe Nwodou style. Also who has beaten the better fighters of late? Not Enzo thats for sure.

****** does not want this fight and I am sure Enzo doesn't want the risk either.

[Fedor Em]

True but they have the same trainer who will just use his genuis to give Macca a game plan to give Ding a boxing Lesson.

All the knowlege in the world will not keep him from getting caught eventually and when he does. Ding will hurt him, and when Ding hurts his opponents he usually if not always stops them. Enzo is not in Tokarev's league.

[Superheavyweight]

A 50/50 fight… hmm maybe this fight should happen.

At least it will end this Ding nonsense. :bbb

[ThePlugInBabies]

A 50/50 fight… hmm maybe this fight should happen.

At least it will end this Ding nonsense. :bbb

STFU and get fraudley 'anal force' harrisons cock back in your mouth.

[ron u.k.]

suddenly ding is being championed on here as next great thing,what's he done to deserve this,never mind maccarinelli who the hell has ding beat?

[Odo]

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You mean THIS Lee Swaby, who has 11 knockouts in 41 fights (of which Maccinarelli is, of course, one) and has himself been KOd SIX times!! :patsch

Fighters with decent chins don't get starched by guys like this, however old they are. And it's not like he hasn't been rocked since by lesser fighters than Wilson since!

And the fact that Maccinarelli DIDN'T himself knock out this guy should raise questions about how hard he in fact does hit. Ding can handle Maccarinelli's "bombs" - the real question is whether he can handle the crushing power Wilson brings. Based on the track record, at the very least, it's a major question.

Good point,zakman!

Watched Lee Swaby in one of his last fights live.He looked like a living punching bag against cruiser weight prospect Alexander Alexeev,a game punching bag,but he was totally outclassed and outgunned by his Russian foe.
I cant imagine how the hell Maccarinelli was able to lose to this limited British journeyman!

[ron u.k.]

is this the same ding easily outpointed by the mighty felix cora jnr. starched in his two fights since.

[Max Molyneux]

Ding's too ponderous to hit Maccarinelli with what he hit Nwodo with.

[Max Molyneux]

I just see it how it is and Enzo has been starched by a gatekeeper(I know early in his carrer but still it shows a suspect chin)Ding might be the hardest hitter in the division, not a good senario. Enzo has a great punch himself but Ding very well could have the best chin in the division. Enzo can and will outbox Ding for much of the fight, but over 12 rounds Ding power and pressure are gonna catch up to Enzo and stop him late. Maybe Nwodou style. Also who has beaten the better fighters of late? Not Enzo thats for sure.

****** does not want this fight and I am sure Enzo doesn't want the risk either.

So If I don't see It how It Is your way I'm putting my nuts In Enzo's mouth? Great logic there.

No way will Ding land on Enzo that he landed on Nwodo, he only landed those shots becuase he hurt Nwodo.

[Max Molyneux]

All the knowlege in the world will not keep him from getting caught eventually and when he does. Ding will hurt him, and when Ding hurts his opponents he usually if not always stops them. Enzo is not in Tokarev's league.

:yikes The same Tokarev who lost to a prospect In Huck.

[Tom_Tocca]

:yikes The same Tokarev who lost to a prospect In Huck.

Huck vs. Macca is the fight I really want to see - after Huck gets by Cunningham, Huck and Macca can unify...this won't be a Ottke - JC thing, where both would duck each other...

[marting]

While I consider myself a fan of Ding his one glaring weakness is his workrate.

I haven't seen enough of Maccarinelli to give an honest opinion but if he's a stick and move guy he'd give Ding fits as long as he stays out of the way of those bombs that Ding relies on.

[Fedor Em]

So If I don't see It how It Is your way I'm putting my nuts In Enzo's mouth? Great logic there.

No way will Ding land on Enzo that he landed on Nwodo, he only landed those shots becuase he hurt Nwodo.

You are missing the point. Chances are he won't land that shot in the first round and Enzo will probally be outboxing him for the first half of the fight, but 12 rounds is a long time. He will get caught and when he does he will get hurt, that is when Ding is at his best. Ding could very well land that on Enzo if Enzo is nearly out on his feet.

[Fedor Em]

:yikes The same Tokarev who lost to a prospect In Huck.

Huck is probally the best Crusier in the world.

[ThePlugInBabies]

Good point,zakman!

Watched Lee Swaby in one of his last fights live.He looked like a living punching bag against cruiser weight prospect Alexander Alexeev,a game punching bag,but he was totally outclassed and outgunned by his Russian foe.
I cant imagine how the hell Maccarinelli was able to lose to this limited British journeyman!

he was 19 years old and it was just his fourth pro fight. zak is just getting a hard on at the thought of another weak chin.

[Steve Fox]

I'd like to see Haye vs. Macca, I just don't think FW would.

[Max Molyneux]

Zakman belittled Breland and compared him to Harrison as being a hype Job, enuff said about his logic.

[Max Molyneux]

You are missing the point. Chances are he won't land that shot in the first round and Enzo will probally be outboxing him for the first half of the fight, but 12 rounds is a long time. He will get caught and when he does he will get hurt, that is when Ding is at his best. Ding could very well land that on Enzo if Enzo is nearly out on his feet.

Enzo will survive one ponderous Ding punch, he hits heavy but not quick enough.

[C Money]

Enzo will survive one ponderous Ding punch, he hits heavy but not quick enough.

Dont B so sure of that:nono

Plenty of fighters havent survived one Ding punch, ask Nwodo:yep

Why all the fuss from Mac fans?? Wilson is great defense. If EM wins he's served all intrest's better beating Ding than someone of lesser caliber.

Ding hits him wit a Dinger??


Call in the big fat Lady OPERA Singer:lol:

[Words]

Y'see this is why this fight should be made. There's a divergence of opinion, there's debate as the outcome, people here are able to discuss the chances each guy has and look forward to an exciting fight. Some favour Ding, some favour Enzo, either way its provoked argument which is EXACTLY what a good fight ought to do!

however, when Enzo announces his next opponent, you can almost be certain that it wont be someone that offers a credible threat, and there wont be any of this discussion about the result, just the grim sense of inevitability that Enzo will destroy some totally out of his depth no-hoper and lose credebility as a champion.

Ding, if I can offer you some advice, I'd keep training and stay in shape coz this fight hasnt been made yet. They could be playing games with you, telling you this fight is not gonna happen, only to ask you to step in at short notice a week before the bout knowing that you haven't had chance to fully prepare. You might end up getting a phonecall 4 days before the fight asking you to step in coz they cant fight a suitable opponent, they know your a risk but if they convince you to give up hope and not train they can minimize that risk. Better safe than sorry.

[Max Molyneux]

Dont B so sure of that:nono

Plenty of fighters havent survived one Ding punch, ask Nwodo:yep

Why all the fuss from Mac fans?? Wilson is great defense. If EM wins he's served all intrest's better beating Ding than someone of lesser caliber.

Ding hits him wit a Dinger??


Call in the big fat Lady OPERA Singer:lol:

Enzo would of done the same to Nwodo.

[madpup]

Y'see this is why this fight should be made. There's a divergence of opinion, there's debate as the outcome, people here are able to discuss the chances each guy has and look forward to an exciting fight. Some favour Ding, some favour Enzo, either way its provoked argument which is EXACTLY what a good fight ought to do!

however, when Enzo announces his next opponent, you can almost be certain that it wont be someone that offers a credible threat, and there wont be any of this discussion about the result, just the grim sense of inevitability that Enzo will destroy some totally out of his depth no-hoper and lose credebility as a champion.


I 100% agree. You can make argument for Macca beating Ding, but you can not make the argument for the fight not to go ahead, unless Macca fights another champion/top contender and there arent many of these around.

[Superheavyweight]

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[cjk44]

The only reason Darnell Wilson wants to fight Enzo Mac is so that he can meet King Joe Calzaghe!!!!
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[Ding]

Y'see this is why this fight should be made. There's a divergence of opinion, there's debate as the outcome, people here are able to discuss the chances each guy has and look forward to an exciting fight. Some favour Ding, some favour Enzo, either way its provoked argument which is EXACTLY what a good fight ought to do!

however, when Enzo announces his next opponent, you can almost be certain that it wont be someone that offers a credible threat, and there wont be any of this discussion about the result, just the grim sense of inevitability that Enzo will destroy some totally out of his depth no-hoper and lose credebility as a champion.

Ding, if I can offer you some advice, I'd keep training and stay in shape coz this fight hasnt been made yet. They could be playing games with you, telling you this fight is not gonna happen, only to ask you to step in at short notice a week before the bout knowing that you haven't had chance to fully prepare. You might end up getting a phonecall 4 days before the fight asking you to step in coz they cant fight a suitable opponent, they know your a risk but if they convince you to give up hope and not train they can minimize that risk. Better safe than sorry.



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[Superheavyweight]

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