Zab Judah on Khan

[samuel137]

Listened to Zab on on the ropes.. What did Khan do to set Zab off?

[Mandanda]

Listened to Zab on on the ropes.. What did Khan do to set Zab off?
What's he say mate? i take it he wasn't singing Khan's praises.

[samuel137]

He got asked if hes interested with a fight with Khan and he started saying Whos Amir Khan, hes just a young punk with a big mouth whos done nothing great for boxing and a fight with him does nothing for him but if Khan knocks him out, Khan goes to the top.

Was just wondering if Khan has said something in the past to get him mad.

[TFFP]

Judah has an inflated view of himself disproportional to his actual standing in boxing. He's famous for losing big fights. Khan is on the way up, Judah desperately needs to get back up - it wouldn't be half as unrealistic a fight as he claims.

[Mr. V.I.P.]

Khan has done nothing to deserve a fight with Judah. Why would zab fight him? He has everything to lose and nothing to gain. He sure as hell ain't getting a payday and a fight proves nothing. Khan been stopped before no way he can take a ful shot from a zab judah,

[IntentionalButt]

Listened to Zab on on the ropes.. What did Khan do to set Zab off?

It sounded like the mere idea of Khan calling him out when Khan has very little name value in the U.S. irked him.

[IntentionalButt]

Judah has an inflated view of himself disproportional to his actual standing in boxing. He's famous for losing big fights. Khan is on the way up, Judah desperately needs to get back up - it wouldn't be half as unrealistic a fight as he claims.

Thing is, Judah was already pretty famous before he started losing more than he won. He does have a point - at least in American markets - about being a good deal more established and celebrated than Khan.

[Carnage]

Judah has an inflated view of himself disproportional to his actual standing in boxing. He's famous for losing big fights. Khan is on the way up, Judah desperately needs to get back up - it wouldn't be half as unrealistic a fight as he claims.
Agreed, its just Zab Judah believing he is a greater boxer then he ever was, he was nothing more ok fighter of our times who will be best remembered for getting knocked out.

[IntentionalButt]

Agreed, its just Zab Judah believing he is a greater boxer then he ever was, he was nothing more ok fighter of our times who will be best remembered for getting knocked out.

Now that is not true at all, any more than that exact statement is of Amir himself.

[samuel137]

Khan has done nothing to deserve a fight with Judah. Why would zab fight him? He has everything to lose and nothing to gain. He sure as hell ain't getting a payday and a fight proves nothing. Khan been stopped before no way he can take a ful shot from a zab judah,

Well Khan has a world title, surly that's a reason to fight him.

[IntentionalButt]

Well Khan has a world title, surly that's a reason to fight him.

Up until Monday, Zab actually didn't know that. :yep

He kept saying "this guy ain't never won a world title or nothing..." and Rumsfeld had to correct him.

So he says "Yeah okay, he won it in what, 2009? I won my first one in 2000. Talk to me in a little while...." :lol:

[TFFP]

Thing is, Judah was already pretty famous before he started losing more than he won. He does have a point - at least in American markets - about being a good deal more established and celebrated than Khan.
Well yeah, in America. But I'd ask Zab one thing - what has he got lined up? Any world title fights on the horizon...?

He'd do well to find a better opponent than Khan. Maybe Khan is only bringing a belt but thats not to be sniffed at when you've lost 4 of your last 9 including all the title fights in that period.

[IntentionalButt]

Well yeah, in America. But I'd ask Zab one thing - what has he got lined up? Any world title fights on the horizon...?

He'd do well to find a better opponent than Khan. Maybe Khan is only bringing a belt but thats not to be sniffed at when you've lost 4 of your last 9 including all the title fights in that period.

I don't disagree with you, but Zab's probably in a place mentally where he feels he's already accomplished plenty, enough that he can walk away at any time anyway and still feel good about what he's done - he probably doesn't feel he needs to mess around with anything other than marquee names. That of course begs the question as to what the hell he was doing fucking about with Ruben Galvan, Edwin Vazquez, Ryan Davis, Ernest Johnson, and Ubaldo Hernandez in between "big fights" the last few years - but maybe in his mind he's had his gimmes and now it's $$$ or bust in his twilight.

[Farmboxer]

Blab Judah has not changed.

[Lee Mc]

Judah has an inflated view of himself disproportional to his actual standing in boxing. He's famous for losing big fights. Khan is on the way up, Judah desperately needs to get back up - it wouldn't be half as unrealistic a fight as he claims.


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One of the most over-hyped fighters in recent history...

[brown bomber]

No he's not, he's a very good fighter who lacked the ability to take a shot too well. You don't take consecutive rounds off Mayweather and Cotto unless you have superb ability. He was well on his way to chinning Kostya Tsyzu before being pole-axed. Big mouth- yes, but still a great talent. I think he'd KO Khan.

[Aznhybrid]

Zab is a great fight no doubt, but he needs to understand. In that interview, he stated "I won my world champion belt in 2000, where was Khan?!" He was in middle school Zab...Another thing is that well. Zab is a Welterweight Fighter now, I doubt he can even get to 140 anymore. If he did, he'd be weight drained i think, which would only give Khan the advantage.

[sg85]

No he's not, he's a very good fighter who lacked the ability to take a shot too well. You don't take consecutive rounds off Mayweather and Cotto unless you have superb ability. He was well on his way to chinning Kostya Tsyzu before being pole-axed. Big mouth- yes, but still a great talent. I think he'd KO Khan.

In what subsequently turned out to be one the funniest knockouts in boxing history... :rofl

[Govanmauler]

Agreed, its just Zab Judah believing he is a greater boxer then he ever was, he was nothing more ok fighter of our times who will be best remembered for getting knocked out.


totally Judah is the poster boy for all mouth and little action

Fuck him , Khan would handle him I reckon. Anyone who stands up to Judah beats him fuckin gangsta wanna be cheap shotting little bitch !!!!!!

[Mazallan]

Khan by KO round 1 at any weight.

[DON1]

Lets face it Zab is no where near what he used to be I accept that, a shadow of his former shelf, but to all those chumps who have stated that he has never been more than a good boxer need to get their heads tested or simply they dont know much about the sport.
When he first burst on the scence this dude was the next big thing the guy was probably the most talented boxer at the time, he went through the 140 division with ease using he speed, ability and talent until he came a croper against a World Class Kosta. Kosta was eating every boxer alive with that right hand all his career. Kosta was at his peak and lets remember it was for the legitimate 140pound Undisputed title. A massive fight.
As all you recall Khan was Knocked the fuck out by Bredis Prescott in even more devastating fashion than Judah was, they had to scrape the Khan lad of the fucking floor. This was a non event, no fucking World title. Back in the day Judah earned his World titlestrap, he moved up the ranks and beat the top contenders and then fought the very best at the time in Kosta aka animal. Where is Prescott now?? Licking his wounds from getting hammered by Kevin Mitchell. Then Khan gets handed a title shot against Kotelnik?? The boy has talent obviously but he would be fucking nowhere withought Frank ****** pulling the strings and shifting him somehow to a World tile shot. Believe me Khan nuthuggers, Judah was a better prospect and had more talent in his young days than Khan has now. The real boxing heads who know the sport know where im coming from. In his young early days Judah was immense. Obviously his attitude let him down later on in his life and career but in his teens to early 20's the dude was electric.

[trotter]

DON1 I don't really agree

He had talent, sure, but he had a LOT of hype too

What were his best wins? Lost pretty much every damn fight he's had against decent opposition

[DON1]

DON1 I don't really agree

He had talent, sure, but he had a LOT of hype too

What were his best wins? Lost pretty much every damn fight he's had against decent opposition


I respect your opinion but lets face it he didnt have half as much hype than Khan. Khan's hype is sickening. As I said in his EARLY days he was immense and achieved a hell of alot pretty quickly (maybe too quick).

Lets face it later on in his career he did start to unravel and losing to Baldimir was unnaceptable. But losing to Mayweather, Kosta, Cotto, Clottey, Spinks aint too shameful.

My point is he was pretty darn good in his young days.

[RichT]

Zab has very few options at the minute. If he thinks Khan would be such a walk over he should take the fight and his belt to open up more opportunities for himself in the future.

Nothing but a damaged ego :-(

[skel1983]

Khan has done nothing to deserve a fight with Judah. Why would zab fight him? He has everything to lose and nothing to gain. He sure as hell ain't getting a payday and a fight proves nothing. Khan been stopped before no way he can take a ful shot from a zab judah,


Hahaha you for real? Deserve a fight with Judah? Surely the other way round, why the fuck should Judah get a shot at any ranked fighter? The last meaningful fight he won was about 5 years ago, Judah is a punk who should shut the fuck up.

[skel1983]

No he's not, he's a very good fighter who lacked the ability to take a shot too well. You don't take consecutive rounds off Mayweather and Cotto unless you have superb ability. He was well on his way to chinning Kostya Tsyzu before being pole-axed. Big mouth- yes, but still a great talent. I think he'd KO Khan.


I dont thin his chin is that bad, not the best but I dont think that has held him back look at some of the guys hes been in with who havent flattened him, his problem is he has lost the ability to fight solid for 12 rounds, he has faded in everyone of his big fights in the recent years, Mayweather-Cotto-Clottey-Baldomir

[Henke67]

No he's not, he's a very good fighter who lacked the ability to take a shot too well. You don't take consecutive rounds off Mayweather and Cotto unless you have superb ability. He was well on his way to chinning Kostya Tsyzu before being pole-axed. Big mouth- yes, but still a great talent. I think he'd KO Khan.

I think his lack of mental toughness and an unability to adapt mid-fight have been more of a problem than his chin.

Also, I don't see how winning one round convincingly means you're "well on (your) way" to winning a fight. Let's not forget Tszyu was winning the second round even before he made Zab dance.

Judah is a very talented fighter - he was just never really able to live up to the very high expectations bestowed on him at a young age.

As far as Khan goes - Judah has, in the past, always managed to get big fights regardless of wether he deserved them or not. He probably expects this trend to continue and is looking for a bigger name than Khan.

[izmat]

I'm predicting Ricky Hatton vs Judah for hatton's comeback fight!

[Bull Terrier]

Lets face it Zab is no where near what he used to be I accept that, a shadow of his former shelf, but to all those chumps who have stated that he has never been more than a good boxer need to get their heads tested or simply they dont know much about the sport.
When he first burst on the scence this dude was the next big thing the guy was probably the most talented boxer at the time, he went through the 140 division with ease using he speed, ability and talent until he came a croper against a World Class Kosta. Kosta was eating every boxer alive with that right hand all his career. Kosta was at his peak and lets remember it was for the legitimate 140pound Undisputed title. A massive fight.
As all you recall Khan was Knocked the fuck out by Bredis Prescott in even more devastating fashion than Judah was, they had to scrape the Khan lad of the fucking floor. This was a non event, no fucking World title. Back in the day Judah earned his World titlestrap, he moved up the ranks and beat the top contenders and then fought the very best at the time in Kosta aka animal. Where is Prescott now?? Licking his wounds from getting hammered by Kevin Mitchell. Then Khan gets handed a title shot against Kotelnik?? The boy has talent obviously but he would be fucking nowhere withought Frank ****** pulling the strings and shifting him somehow to a World tile shot. Believe me Khan nuthuggers, Judah was a better prospect and had more talent in his young days than Khan has now. The real boxing heads who know the sport know where im coming from. In his young early days Judah was immense. Obviously his attitude let him down later on in his life and career but in his teens to early 20's the dude was electric.


Agree totally on all points made above. Zab Judah seemed to have nearly everything going into the Tszyu fight, apart from maybe granite chin (if I remember right he'd been down a couple of times in previous fights going into that one). He had a scintillating combination of speed and reflexes with genuine power. He was amazing to watch, and as far as I'm concerned he is the ONLY fighter thus far who was able to outbox Mayweather, albeit only for several rounds. Sure Castillo gave him overall a better fight, but Castillo managed to manhandle him rather than outbox him. Apart from Judah's less than stellar chin he isn't always mentally up for fights in my opinion and tends to beat himself.

[skel1983]

I'm predicting Ricky Hatton vs Judah for hatton's comeback fight!

Hatton fighting a southpaw with speed and power ? Hahaha pigs might fly mate.

[Tony Bellew]

I personally think Judah is a class act!! The guy is a dangerous fighter and a huge underachiver which is very sad in my opinion!! I think he beats Amir so I hope he doesn't take the fight!! Judah is a serious puncher and is also very slick..

Big NO NO for Amir this fight...:-(

['Ben']

If Judah wants a big pay day and to finally win a world title again he should face him. Although I have no doubt Khan would take him apart inside the distance.

['Ben']

I personally think Judah is a class act!! The guy is a dangerous fighter and a huge underachiver which is very sad in my opinion!! I think he beats Amir so I hope he doesn't take the fight!! Judah is a serious puncher and is also very slick..

Big NO NO for Amir this fight...:-(


He's not that dangerous because he don't have the timing he once had, nor the speed or workrate either. I can't really see him even catching Khan clean and if he does I wouldn't worry.... I think he's punch resistance is alot better up at light welterweight, aswell as he's survival skills too.

[Dan684]

Ben gotta agree mate. Judah was superb 4-5 years ago but he's done nothing of any note since and I like the way Khan has come up. I alwats wondered whether he'd take shots better off a 140lber and I still think he will be able too. Roach has gona back to basics with him which he could afford to do with Khans natural speed.

I think Khan will face Maidana this Spring and then eventually split with ****** and we;ll see Khan vs Hatton in the summer. I feel for ****** as nobody, NOBODY in the world would have had the nounce to get Khan to where he is now this quick after the Prescott defeat and Khan seems to be fucking him off now he's got where he wants to.

For the record I think Khan will seriously hurt Hatton so I hope it doesn't happen. Khan isn't as big'a puncher as Pacquiao so I see Hatton taking a prolonged beating which in his state is the last thing he needs.

[Tony Bellew]

A motivated Judah is a tough fight for anyone!! Just ask Cotto or Clottey. They both had life and death struggles with him I agree he ain't what he was 4-5 years ago BUT he only loses intrest when someone absorbs his best shots ala Cotto,Tyszu,Clottey and Baldamoir etc etc.. He simply wasn't good enough against Mayweather, I think if he hits Amir flush he knocks him out.. Sorry guys just my opinion..;)

['Ben']

Well Dan, I have to agree on all your points. Even about feeling sorry for ******!....













well, just a little bit anyway.

['Ben']

A motivated Judah is a tough fight for anyone!! Just ask Cotto or Clottey. They both had life and death struggles with him I agree he ain't what he was 4-5 years ago BUT he only loses intrest when someone absorbs his best shots ala Cotto,Tyszu,Clottey and Baldamoir etc etc.. He simply wasn't good enough against Mayweather, I think if he hits Amir flush he knocks him out.. Sorry guys just my opinion..;)


What about Judah's weight? he ain't fought at light welter for about six years! He says he can make it though.

I can't see Zab getting passed Khan's jab. Oh look I'm poet! :happy

[Dan684]

Tony I know what your saying even though I disagree.

It wont matter anyway because i'd be very very suprised if it materialises.

['Ben']

That last sentence really makes me look gay. But I'm so pleased that it ryhmed I'm not going to change a thing.

['Ben']

Yeah, the Hatton fight looks more likely than ever. even if he don't face Hatton I reckon he'll go after the winner of Urango-Alexander or Tim Bradley (assuming Hatton don't face one of them instead of course)

[Tony Bellew]

This just a fact guys.. NO PROMOTER in the world could have brought Amir back after the Prescott incident..

[Dan684]

I know I said that :-(

['Ben']

I know I said that :-(



.... and I agreed with you over it! :lol:

[China_hand_Joe]

Khan is a bigger name now that Judah.

Judah is not an underachiver.
You saw his limitations against Witter and Baldomir.
He looks good for 4 rounds against great fighters occasionally.
This is because his basically sprints through those rounds.
This makes him appear better than he is.

It is remarkable he managed to KO Spinks.

He is an overachiver, a better version of Vivian Harris.


The fight doesn't make sense for Khan, as Judah is dangerous for a fighter with average punch resistance.