View Full Version : I Noticed Something In Barrera´s Preperation For Pac in HBO´s Countdown
Barrera is working on pivoting to his left with a jab to stay on the outside of Pacs left hand.
This would serve him well because in the first fight he traded with Pac or moved straight back, two strategies for getting swiftly knocked out by Pac.
However, he better be careful as Pac has added a right hook to his game. When he pivots and dips left, he better pump that jab and return it to guard quickly. Only piston jabs for Barrera, no pawing!
Check out 6:55 and watch the mittwork.
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chimba
10-01-2007, 10:19 PM
You're reading way too much
You're reading way too much
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chimba
10-01-2007, 10:27 PM
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Its only now that they're moving away from the left? Note that this has been PACs only weapon since he started boxing, it isnt hard to train for in theory. Why do you think Manila Ice was developed by Roach?
Its only now that they're moving away from the left? Note that this has been PACs only weapon since he started boxing, it isnt hard to train for in theory. Why do you think Manila Ice was developed by Roach?
Yes its only now, did you not watch the first fight? Barrera had no plan for it, and probably did not anticipate it being a problem quite frankly. His tendency has always been to fight fire with fire. When that failed against Pac, his next response was to move straight back and with no angles, which of course always fails against a straight power puncher.
You dont have to believe me, but to me its clear what his strategy is. Look for him to use his jab for range and to pivot left all night. He will fight with a gameplan, similar to how he fought against Hamed.
Barrera loves to brawl, but he isnt stupid enough to do it this time, mark my words.
chimba
10-01-2007, 10:35 PM
Yes its only now, did you not watch the first fight? Barrera had no plan for it, and probably did not anticipate it being a problem quite frankly. His tendency has always been to fight fire with fire. When that failed against Pac, his next response was to move straight back and with no angles, which of course always fails against a straight power puncher.
You dont have to believe me, but to me its clear what his strategy is. Look for him to use his jab for range and to pivot left all night. He will fight with a gameplan, similar to how he fought against Hamed.
Barrera loves to brawl, but he isnt stupid enough to do it this time, mark my words.
All I know is Pac moves too much side to side for that strategy to be effective
All I know is Pac moves too much side to side for that strategy to be effective
What strategy would you use?
theunderdog
10-01-2007, 10:38 PM
everybody has a plan til they get punched in the mouth
everybody has a plan til they get punched in the mouth
Yep, so its best not to have one and just get punched in the mouth. :good
ravtrav
10-01-2007, 10:41 PM
everybody has a plan til they get punched in the mouth:yep :lol:
chimba
10-01-2007, 10:45 PM
What strategy would you use?
Try to knock Pac out!!! Bang with him and go out on a bang.
You think he'll outlast him with movements and jabs??
sure for a few rounds or so because hes MAB..
But by 8th or 9th he'll be gassed and Pac is still in high gear, then what??
Try to knock Pac out!!! Bang with him and go out on a bang.
You think he'll outlast him with movements and jabs??
sure for a few rounds or so because hes MAB..
But by 8th or 9th he'll be gassed and Pac is still in high gear, then what??
Terrible strategy! Chimba you have to be kidding me, play Pacs game? You dont punch with a puncher. You use movement, stay behind the jab, and trade in oportune spots only.
Have you watched SRR against Lamotta, PBF vs Corrales, RJJ against Ruiz, Calzaghe vs Lacy, Winky vs Trinidad, any of these fights? Boxing history would be different if these fighters followed your strategy. :-(
chimba
10-01-2007, 11:10 PM
Terrible strategy! Chimba you have to be kidding me, play Pacs game? You dont punch with a puncher. You use movement, stay behind the jab, and trade in oportune spots only.
Have you watched SRR against Lamotta, PBF vs Corrales, RJJ against Ruiz, Calzaghe vs Lacy, Winky vs Trinidad, any of these fights? Boxing history would be different if these fighters followed your strategy. :-(
I guess jab and hope he can sustain. I wont be surprised if this is a barnburner..I just see MAB stopping Pac as his only chance
Saltzy
10-02-2007, 01:12 AM
Use Morales' strategy in their first fight. Box smartly, show your heart when needed. Take the fight to Pacman every now and then to show him your not scared. Work the body as much as possible to stop him from coming on late.
theunderdog
10-02-2007, 01:29 AM
mab should butt him early. he may have a chance to win if this happens. how's taht for strategy?
compukiller
10-02-2007, 01:38 AM
Yep, so its best not to have one and just get punched in the mouth. :good
:lol: :rofl
mad_takamura
10-02-2007, 01:50 AM
mab should butt him early. he may have a chance to win if this happens. how's taht for strategy? and step unto pac's shoes so that pac would have a hard time to pursue him. orthodox and southpaw boxers have a tendency to do that: step on each other's foot as their lead foot are in front each other.
bachatu
10-02-2007, 02:10 AM
This CTD to Pac/Barrera was crappy in comparison to their other count downs. Arent they supposed to be trying to sell the PPV? This fight doesn't seem to have one in suspense....the outcome seems pretty clear cut and HBO didn't do a good job masking it.
divac
10-02-2007, 05:01 AM
Use Morales' strategy in their first fight. Box smartly, show your heart when needed. Take the fight to Pacman every now and then to show him your not scared. Work the body as much as possible to stop him from coming on late.
You mean use JMM's strategy to beat Pac.
Morales himself said he had studied JMM's fight over and over again in his preperation of Pac for fight one.
It does'nt take a rocket scientist to know that if MAB has a chance to win, he most move to his left and away from Pac's left....
.....MAB will have to do more than just move to the left to beat Pac. He's going to have accompany that movement with a straight right over Pac's lunging left.
Mark these word......if MAB's main weapon moving to his left is to jab, he'll have that left jab blocked by Pac and get hit with a left to the body in return.
Invite Pac to throw the left, and counter it with a straigt right, thats the winning strategy to beat Pac!
Whether MAB can do it to the effectiveness that JMM and Morales once did it is a different story all together.
MAB has'nt shown to be as effective with his right as JMM and Morales have employed it.
MAB will have to put some mustard on that right hand to make Pac respect him!
My dinner with Conteh
10-02-2007, 05:07 AM
I'm really looking forward to Saturday, I love fights like this when I don't mind who wins. :good
gutto
10-02-2007, 07:45 AM
Can Not Waite For This One Mab Needs To Land Some Serious Righthand Left Hook Combos To Even Go Any Were Near The Full Distance Fingers Crossed Mab Has One Last Big Fight Left In The Tank
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