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Ring Master
10-02-2007, 12:45 AM
Lee the 6'2 power punching south paw is one of Manny's true prized pupils. Manny has been developing this kid for a few years now and will continue to nurture him into a world Champ. Lee actually listens to Manny. You can tell Manny is frustrated with Taylor, JT kinda shuts down during fights and doesn't listen to him.

What do you guys think of Lee and do you think he could pose some real problems for pavlik?
GazOC
10-02-2007, 12:48 AM
No
teetop
10-02-2007, 12:49 AM
Lee the 6'2 power punching south paw is one of Manny's true prized pupils. Manny has been developing this kid for a few years now and will continue to nurture him into a world Champ. Lee actually listens to Manny. You can tell Manny is frustrated with Taylor, JT kinda shuts down during fights and doesn't listen to him.

What do you guys think of Lee and do you think he could pose some real problems for pavlik?

It's too early in his career to tell and you're unlikely to ever see him in w/ pavlik.
Ring Master
10-02-2007, 12:50 AM
It's too early in his career to tell and you're unlikely to ever see him in w/ pavlik.

Why?
DobyZhee
10-02-2007, 12:51 AM
Lee....Gooood. Manny Steward.....baaaad.
Ring Master
10-02-2007, 12:52 AM
Lee....Gooood. Manny Steward.....baaaad.
:lol:
Zakman
10-02-2007, 12:57 AM
Lee the 6'2 power punching south paw is one of Manny's true prized pupils. Manny has been developing this kid for a few years now and will continue to nurture him into a world Champ. Lee actually listens to Manny. You can tell Manny is frustrated with Taylor, JT kinda shuts down during fights and doesn't listen to him.

What do you guys think of Lee and do you think he could pose some real problems for pavlik?

Lee seems to have a lot of potential, and could indeed be the Kronk superstar that Taylor wasn't, but it's WAY too early to know for sure, and WAY to early to suggest how he'd match up with Pavlik.
TheGoldenBoy#1
10-02-2007, 01:00 AM
Obviously I want him to succeed but there seems to be far too much hype around Andy Lee so early in his career.
markbrooklyn
10-02-2007, 01:03 AM
The boy got SKILLS.. Enough said

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GazOC
10-02-2007, 01:06 AM
I doubt Pavlik will even be champ by the time Lee gets in position to challenge.
Ring Master
10-02-2007, 01:16 AM
Obviously I want him to succeed but there seems to be far too much hype around Andy Lee so early in his career.

something about him sparring with Klitshcko, J.Banks holding his own and whipping Taylor/Cintron sparring rumors have put a lot of hype on him. Plus Andy being with Manny so long adds on.

The Carl Daniel's Kayo in the Garden made me a fan. I think stylisticly Lee can create big problems for Kelly.

Then again you never know maybe Pavlik's right hand will touch the south paw Lee.
marauder1999
10-02-2007, 06:39 AM
Anyone manny trains becomes the hype train--Does he have skills, from what i have seen -yes. But can he pose a threat to legit fighters remains to be seen. Time will tell but it really is too early to solidify his ranking up with the best.
SouthLondonsFinest
10-02-2007, 07:00 AM
he grew up fighting at Repton Boys here in London, wish him all the best.
Ring Master
10-02-2007, 11:06 AM
Weights from Chicago!
Andy Lee 160 vs James Morrow 165
Fab2333
10-02-2007, 11:16 AM
I think Andy lee is a huge propsect and could potentially be great. DUde got skills for real though, hopefully he can climb through the ranks and get a shot. But its still early in his career to tell though
PATSYS
10-02-2007, 11:22 AM
Lee the 6'2 power punching south paw is one of Manny's true prized pupils. Manny has been developing this kid for a few years now and will continue to nurture him into a world Champ. Lee actually listens to Manny. You can tell Manny is frustrated with Taylor, JT kinda shuts down during fights and doesn't listen to him.

What do you guys think of Lee and do you think he could pose some real problems for pavlik?

I've seen only 2 clips of Lee, and one of them against Carl Daniels.

The kid has serious power, to go with good movement and skills.

I am not sure of his chin though, purely from the looks of it he might have a Tito-like kind of chin. Which if so, means he will taste the canvass at some point against Pavlik.
H .
10-02-2007, 12:59 PM
Weights from Chicago!
Andy Lee 160 vs James Morrow 165

Yeah, I saw that. I was thinking about going, but then decided to make other plans :D
iceman
10-02-2007, 01:56 PM
Manny and Lee were on Chicago radio this morning and Stewart said Lee has bested everyone in sparring including Cintron and Taylor.He added that he thinks Pavlik will be very hard to beat over the next few years at middleweight and said that Lee would be the most likely to dethrone Pavlik due to his size,style and long reach.
Doesn't look like he wants Taylor to rematch Pavlik
iceman
10-02-2007, 01:58 PM
Yeah, I saw that. I was thinking about going, but then decided to make other plans :D

I'll be going for sure,any idea what time the fights start?
iceman
10-02-2007, 01:59 PM
Or he won´t be Taylor´s trainer in his next fight.


I missed the first part of the interview where Stewart discussed the Taylor/Pavlik fight but i wouldn't be surprised to see them part ways
Ring Master
10-02-2007, 04:33 PM
Yeah, I saw that. I was thinking about going, but then decided to make other plans :D

you should go. you may see a spectacular Kayo.
iceman
10-02-2007, 04:48 PM
you should go. you may see a spectacular Kayo.

I bet you Lee's opponent is a soft-bellied journeyman who goes down from a body punch :hey
Ring Master
10-02-2007, 04:50 PM
I bet you Lee's opponent is a soft-bellied journeyman who goes down from a body punch :hey

He came in 5 pounds heavy so you maybe right:yep .
iceman
10-02-2007, 04:57 PM
He came in 5 pounds heavy so you maybe right:yep .

Thats the type all these young guys feast on to pad their records although i don't know why Lee is fighting a guy like this - it does him no good at all
Ring Master
10-02-2007, 05:07 PM
Thats the type all these young guys feast on to pad their records although i don't know why Lee is fighting a guy like this - it does him no good at all

Manny wanted to start moving him along after the Daniels KAyo. it's hard finding fighters sometimes who knows. it worked for Kelly Pavlik.
Big Ears
10-02-2007, 06:09 PM
The good thing at least is Lee is staying active , this will be his 6th fight this year and boxrec have him fighting again in just over 2 weeks .

Lee is one of the best two middleweight prospects around at the moment imo , the other is this guy [Only registered and activated users can see links]
Motor City Sam
10-02-2007, 06:14 PM
The good thing at least is Lee is staying active , this will be his 6th fight this year and boxrec have him fighting again in just over 2 weeks .

Lee is one of the best two middleweight prospects around at the moment imo , the other is this guy [Only registered and activated users can see links]

Do you think that guy is better than Mean Joe Green out of New York? I've seen Green fight on TV a couple of times. He looks pretty good.

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Ring Master
10-03-2007, 03:59 PM
Lee is a beast,I read he blew the kid out in the first.
iceman
10-03-2007, 04:11 PM
Lee is a beast,I read he blew the kid out in the first.

I was at the fight
My granny could have beat this guy and she is 88
Lee said after the fight he wants to fight stiffer competition but finding suitable opponents is hard to do
Tom_Tocca
10-03-2007, 04:14 PM
I was at the fight
My granny could have beat this guy and she is 88
Lee said after the fight he wants to fight stiffer competition but finding suitable opponents is hard to do

No wonder with Steward as his adviser/manager...don't get me wrong, I think he is a great coach but he shouldn't manage a guy he's training - this is far to much influence on a boxer by his...Lee should get a new manager who tries to sign him to a big promotional company...
Ring Master
10-03-2007, 04:15 PM
I was at the fight
My granny could have beat this guy and she is 88
Lee said after the fight he wants to fight stiffer competition but finding suitable opponents is hard to do

Thanks for the info.

Anything else happend worth note?
Ring Master
10-03-2007, 04:16 PM
No wonder with Steward as his adviser/manager...don't get me wrong, I think he is a great coach but he shouldn't manage a guy he's training - this is far to much influence on a boxer by his...Lee should get a new manager who tries to sign him to a big promotional company...

I think he is doing a great job with Banks and Lee and has matched banks well. Lee is having a hard time finding decent opponents.
Tom_Tocca
10-03-2007, 04:19 PM
I think he is doing a great job with Banks and Lee and has matched banks well. Lee is having a hard time finding decent opponents.

Nevertheless a big promotional outlet would fit a guy like Lee better than his current position...
rydersonthestorm
10-03-2007, 04:19 PM
I like green and lee as the two best middleweight prospects, i aint seen the other guy so i can't say about him.
Ring Master
10-03-2007, 04:25 PM
Nevertheless a big promotional outlet would fit a guy like Lee better than his current position...

I just don't want him to slow down his activity. manny has him fighting 7 times a year now.

Tom_Tocco, I believe you were the guy who put me on to AA, right?
iceman
10-03-2007, 04:26 PM
Thanks for the info.

Anything else happend worth note?

The younger Cintron brother looked horrible - i had him losing but he got a split decision
Ring Master
10-03-2007, 04:28 PM
The younger Cintron brother looked horrible - i had him losing but he got a split decision

Oh yeah, Jason Cintron. thanks for the info. how did Lee look in person? you know how sometimes when seeing a fighter in the flesh you didn't realize something about him.
Tom_Tocca
10-03-2007, 04:29 PM
I just don't want him to slow down his activity. manny has him fighting 7 times a year now.

Tom_Tocco, I believe you were the guy who put me on to AA, right?

Yes, I have also seen Andy Lee live in Germany and even had a chat with him at Klitschko - Brewster II.
I also saw him on German TV, when he had fought on Klitschkos undercards...
iceman
10-03-2007, 04:32 PM
Oh yeah, Jason Cintron. thanks for the info. how did Lee look in person? you know how sometimes when seeing a fighter in the flesh you didn't realize something about him.

The other guy was so afraid to get hit he wouldn't let his hands go and barely laid a glove on Lee.It was as one-sided as a fight could be.
Lee looked fast but not super fast although its hard to tell over 1 round
Ring Master
10-03-2007, 04:36 PM
The other guy was so afraid to get hit he wouldn't let his hands go and barely laid a glove on Lee.It was as one-sided as a fight could be.
Lee looked fast but not super fast although its hard to tell over 1 round

damn, that Daniels kayo got people scared, thanks again.
Pimp C
10-03-2007, 06:23 PM
Good move for Lee he's one of my favorite prospects. The kid has a bright future and Manny will continue to help him.