Pavlik may face mundine/sturm/martinez

[luds]

By Jim Dower: According to Cleveland.com, WBC/WBO middleweight champion Kelly Pavlik’s co-manager Cameron Dunkin is saying that Pavlik (36-1, 32 KO’s) could be facing one of four possible opponents next, against either WBC light middleweight champion Sergio Martinez, Anthony Mundine, WBA middleweight champion Felix Sturm and a 4th fighter that is still yet to be determined.



It was thought that Pavlik, 27, would be facing Martinez next. However, manager Dunkin shot that idea down, saying in effect that it’s too soon to tell right now who Pavlik’s next opponent will be. Top Rank, Pavlik’s promotional company, and Dunkin will reportedly be meeting with HBO management next week to determine Pavlik’s next bout, which could take place as early as April.

It would be hard to imagine that HBO, if they have any influence in this, will want to see Pavlik facing Mundine or Sturm. Those are good fighters, but not well known to casual boxing fans. Pavlik has already had three fights against obscure opponents in his only three title defenses since winning his WBC/WBO middleweight titles in a 7th round knockout win over previous champion Jermain Taylor in September 2007.
Since that time, Pavlik has beaten little known Gary Lockett, Marco Antonio Rubio and Miguel Espino. Pavlik has also beaten Taylor in a rematch with neither of his titles being on the line in February 2008, and was trounced by 43-year-old Bernard Hopkins in a one-sided 12 round decision loss in October 2008.
Pavlik was finally set to face a real challenge in Paul Williams late last year, but twice Pavlik had to pull out of fights with Williams because of a staph infection on his left hand. More than a few boxing fans felt that Pavlik would have lost that fight had it taken place. It’s curious that Williams’ name isn’t mentioned as one of the four possible opponents for Pavlik.
Sturm, Mundine, and Martinez are good fighters, but Williams would seem to be a tougher opponent than any of them. That’s why it’s disappointing that his name wasn’t mentioned. Who knows? Perhaps HBO will ask the same question that I’m asking and want to see the Williams-Pavlik fight. I know I do. Williams recently beat Martinez by a 12 round decision.
I don’t know why Pavlik would even be considering a fight with Martinez rather than Williams. Although it was a close fight, I had Williams beating Martinez by at least four rounds. He dominated most of the fight with his better work rate. Martinez had a chance to win but he messed it up by moving too much and focusing on throwing too many pot shots instead of putting his shots together.
I still think that Martinez would be too good for Pavlik and dominate him as easily as Hopkins did. That’s why I doubt Martinez will be the one that Pavlik’s team chooses for him to fight next. My guess is that Sturm will get the pick. Mundine won’t get selected.
I say that because I can easily see him ending up as the fighter that Pavlik chooses next. It wouldn’t be a shock given Pavlik’s other three opponents for his title defenses.

[luds]

Im starting to wonder if it really is mundine ducking these so called champs or as this story suggests,mundine is just not well known enough to land the big one.

[20a87]

I thought pavlik martinez was a done deal. Hope this is right anyway, fingers crossed.

[ashley]

Im starting to wonder if it really is mundine ducking these so called champs or as this story suggests,mundine is just not well known enough to land the big one.



Mate I know from 3 credible people very high in organisations and camps that Mundine is and has been chasing Pavlik for more than 16 months.

Arum said Mundine has bad press from the 911 comments....and is not well known in the states......sort of a contradiction....everybody knows what Mundine said about the disaster...but nobody knows Mundine.

All I can say is Mundine v Pavlik would be a great fight because of Mundines speed, evasion and defence.

If Pavlik would come out to AUST the fight will be a big payday.....its way better than fighting those last 2 guys.

Also Mundine is willing to go to the states to fight Pavlik.

[ashley]

Also Sturm wont leave Germany now with his fight deal on German TV/ soil.

Martinez would beat Pavlik and he knows it.

Its Mundine for sure boys :deal:deal:deal

[luds]

Fucken hope so.
I wrecken mundine is to much risk without much reward for pavlik rather than this unknown bullshit they speak of.
Pavliks crew would have seen a mundine fight along the way somewhere and thought its to risky.
Also is there anybody on this forum that would still find the need to bag mundine if he ends up fighting pavlik.
If so what would you find fault with in regard to pavliks ability.

[goodnight]

we'll just leave you guys in here alone to discuss this.

[20a87]

Also Sturm wont leave Germany now with his fight deal on German TV/ soil.

Martinez would beat Pavlik and he knows it.

Its Mundine for sure boys :deal:deal:deal

I hope so it would make him the linear champ :bbb.

Surely the US would eat up that hype over the 9/11 comments as an angle and everyone is aware "the man" talks the talk to get the sales in

[20a87]

we'll just leave you guys in here alone to discuss this.

Thanks :lol:


Just read at the scene that hbo wants either pavlik or martinez against williams who is their priority but no mention of the man yet.

[ashley]

Mundine will keep 100% of aussie PPV sales....Pavlik gets the rest....100% of gate and 100% of world PPV......thats why this deal will get made. :yep

[20a87]

Mundine will keep 100% of aussie PPV sales....Pavlik gets the rest....100% of gate and 100% of world PPV......thats why this deal will get made. :yep

Is that if its in australia?

[luds]

we'll just leave you guys in here alone to discuss this.

Youll be back,they all come back.:yep

[ashley]

Is that if its in australia?

Both

[Sox]

we'll just leave you guys in here alone to discuss this.
All they need now is Teke and it's a big hugger-fest. :lol:

[ashley]

All they need now is Teke and it's a big hugger-fest. :lol:

You better hope this fight wont get made because this place will be full of Mundine huggers then :yep

[20a87]

Arum has just said on fan house pavlik and martinez is on.

[ozziebattler]

Im starting to wonder if it really is mundine ducking these so called champs or as this story suggests,mundine is just not well known enough to land the big one.

Not known and not deserving of a title shot..

How can someone expect to get respect from the world of boxing when his last 4fights have against Medley,Geale,Taylor and Hamdan.

That aint going to gather the interest of the overseas world champs.

Its plain and simple hes doing something wrong.You just have to look at a bloke like Bika,who seems to get decent fights often.Bute,Calzaghe and now if he gets past Green will recieve another REAL world title shot..

[Sydney Smutt]

Basically Mundine is completely unknown in the US

[perfect jet]

Pavlik v Martinez in April.

[LeonMcS]

So, is three people a circle jerk or a triangle jerk?

[fast hands]

Fucken hope so.
I wrecken mundine is to much risk without much reward for pavlik rather than this unknown bullshit they speak of.
Pavliks crew would have seen a mundine fight along the way somewhere and thought its to risky.
Also is there anybody on this forum that would still find the need to bag mundine if he ends up fighting pavlik.
If so what would you find fault with in regard to pavliks ability.

Can you seriously believe that after watching the Medley fight that Pavlik or Williams would be reluctant to risk it against the power puncher from Redfern.

But seriously why would any of the top MW's be interested in fighting a nobody like Mundine ? Other than Geale his last 12 fights have all been safety first affairs. I think he's lost his nerve to test himself out in a real pressure fight Everyone knows he has dogged a rematch with Geale.

[Sox]

Can you seriously believe that after watching the Medley fight that Pavlik or Williams would be reluctant to risk it against the power puncher from Redfern.

But seriously why would any of the top MW's be interested in fighting a nobody like Mundine ? Other than Geale his last 12 fights have all been safety first affairs. I think he's lost his nerve to test himself out in a real pressure fight Everyone knows he has dogged a rematch with Geale.

Yay, finally some sanity in this thread.... :happy

[teke]

Mundine easy UD win

[luds]

Can you seriously believe that after watching the Medley fight that Pavlik or Williams would be reluctant to risk it against the power puncher from Redfern.

But seriously why would any of the top MW's be interested in fighting a nobody like Mundine ? Other than Geale his last 12 fights have all been safety first affairs. I think he's lost his nerve to test himself out in a real pressure fight Everyone knows he has dogged a rematch with Geale.


Well tell us all who your supposed to fight if you cant land a big one.
Should he not continue to stay active as he might get bagged.
Should he just agree to any terms and conditions with anyone so the girls on this forum will be happy.
Its a business,not a playground fight.
look at green now struggling to land another name.
It aint as easy as a phonecall

[teke]

But seriously why would any of the top MW's be interested in fighting a nobody like Mundine ? You answered the your own question...he's a nobody and seen to be little threat.

[dominator]

Not known and not deserving of a title shot..

How can someone expect to get respect from the world of boxing when his last 4fights have against Medley,Geale,Taylor and Hamdan.

That aint going to gather the interest of the overseas world champs.

Its plain and simple hes doing something wrong.You just have to look at a bloke like Bika,who seems to get decent fights often.Bute,Calzaghe and now if he gets past Green will recieve another REAL world title shot..

Well look at the past 4 guys Miguel Espino fought before fighting Pavlik, a combined record of 81-51-7, hardly worthy of a world title shot. All he had going for him was a WBC #3 rating (god knows how) and appearance in the first series of the Contender.

Mundine has a WBA #1, IBF #4 and WBO #8 rating and won the IBO middleweight title 2 fights ago. Surely he is worthy of a shot if Espino is.

If I was Pavlik, I'd go for Williams, then if not, decide which one of Mundine or Martinez generates the most $$$. I'm almost certain it'd be Mundine.

[luds]

The problem with most mundine posts on here is there is that much hate in peoples replys it clouds there honest opinion.

[shanemfr]

The problem with most mundine posts on here is there is that much hate in peoples replys it clouds there honest opinion.
Bullshit...Anyone with half a brain knows there was nothing stopping Mundine going overseas and taken a smaller purse to appear on an undercard or even friday night fights on espn just to get the American people to see him and get him self known, similar to what Vic and Katsidis did, they both fought for peanuts overseas at first and took the risks now they are known worldwide and earn decent dollars.

There was nothing stopping Mundine following the same path, but it clearly has come across that he won't swallow his own pride and expect big money or just doesn't wanna be tested, people can go on he fought Kessler though, fact is he was forced to fight him or he was gonna be stripped of his WBA ranking.

[Francis75]

Basically Mundine is completely unknown in the US

Exactly beacuse he fights cabbies in Australia and they all go the distance with him. He has fought top level opposition twice and been easily beaten twice.
If you fight cabbies and journeymen types like Mundine has in the last few years than you need to be blasting then out and humiliating them especially when they are smaller than you.
Why on earth would Pavlik's team fight Anthony Mundine ? Pavlik would get criticised for fighting another no name.

[Francis75]

It's a tough decision for team Pavlik imo. If they fight another nobody then they get criticised but if they fight quality like Williams or Martinez then they may very well lose imo.

[VIP]

Williams and Martinez are good fighters but not great. People underrated Pavlik since his lost to Hopkins. Pavlik is a big, strong middle who can really bang.

You have to consider Mundine as one of the top contenders at 160 though, so I think the fight would make sense.

[fast hands]

Well tell us all who your supposed to fight if you cant land a big one.
Should he not continue to stay active as he might get bagged.
Should he just agree to any terms and conditions with anyone so the girls on this forum will be happy.
Its a business,not a playground fight.
look at green now struggling to land another name.
It aint as easy as a phonecall

If you want to be known on the world stage you have to fight on the world stage.
Sakio Bika has a chance to make it into the Super 6 with a win over Green. Mundine could possibly have been there from the start if he'd had the balls.
How come Mundine wouldn't fight Bika or Pittman but fought a procession of stiffs from Argentina. Don't tell me they were bigger drawcards.

If Mundine's camp thought an international fight against one of these turkeys would give these fights more credibility than a fight against a genuine local contender then they've been treating fight fans like idiots all the way.

{ Bika V Alan Green ] to avoid confusion.

[flamengo]

Has Mundine stepped foot on US soil since his moronic S-11 comments???

Yes or No answer please.

[Francis75]

Has Mundine stepped foot on US soil since his moronic S-11 comments???

Yes or No answer please.

Didn't he have a ceasar salad with de La Hoya a few yrs back. :lol:

[shanemfr]

Has Mundine stepped foot on US soil since his moronic S-11 comments???

Yes or No answer please.
Yeah he trained over there a few times with Roys old man.

[flamengo]

Yes, No or Yeah answers accepted.

[pecks]

Ash, I'll be gentle with you here. Your sources are having you on mate.
That is all.

[flamengo]

Ash, I'll be gentle with you here. Your sources are having you on mate.
That is all.

Tend to agree. Mundine can chase all he wants, but he brings nothing to the table. IMO, he needs a No.1 ranking to become a Mandytory challenger, otherwise he's a fail.

Nobody rates Mundine in the USA
Nobody cares about Mundine O/S
Nobody will shut the fuck up about him on this forum
Nobody has faith in him
Nobody believes his continual bullshit

Mundine is Nobody
He's Nobodies fool

[fast hands]

Didn't he have a ceasar salad with de La Hoya a few yrs back. :lol:

Don't know about the ceasar salad , but when he touched down at Sydney airport he had a new religion a funny hat Muhammed Ali's life story under his arm and a Chuppa Chup in his mouth. Real cool dude.

[pecks]

Tend to agree. Mundine can chase all he wants, but he brings nothing to the table. IMO, he needs a No.1 ranking to become a Mandytory challenger, otherwise he's a fail.

Nobody rates Mundine in the USA
Nobody cares about Mundine O/S
Nobody will shut the fuck up about him on this forum
Nobody has faith in him
Nobody believes his continual bullshit

Mundine is Nobody
He's Nobodies foolNot entirely true. Ash had faith in him, and look where it's landed him. :p

[flamengo]

Not entirely true. Ash had faith in him, and look where it's landed him. :p


Yes... and children have faith in the Easter Bunny. Atleast the children wake up with chocolates at Easter time.

Ash might have Choc on his face right now, but he'll spew when he grows up and realises it was all a hoax.

[kel]

Don't know about the ceasar salad , but when he touched down at Sydney airport he had a new religion a funny hat Muhammed Ali's life story under his arm and a Chuppa Chup in his mouth. Real cool dude.

Mundines nearly as cool as this halfwit
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[TheDuke]

How fucking dare you call Fui Fui Moi Moi a halfwit

[SexualPanda]

Wasn't Mundine the No.1 WBA mandatory for Sturm??

What ever happened to that? I would have thought if you were the No. 1 mandatory you would have the ultimate right to make that fight happen, otherwise you would be stripped of the title.

That's right after the debacle against Ottke, he decided not to risk his undefeated 5 year run of fighting nobodies in Germany, in order to continue to fight nobodies. Mundine will stay undefeated for the remainder of his career, as it is unlikely he will test himself ever again.

[teke]

Dear Santa,

Can you please make a Pavlik vs Mundine fight happen this year so I can bet everyone who thinks Pavlik will beat Mundine. Santa I'm willing to give all those betting on Pavlik a 2 rd headstart.

Thankyou Santa

[flamengo]

Dear Santa,

Can you please make a Pavlik vs Mundine fight happen this year so I can bet everyone who thinks Pavlik will beat Mundine. Santa I'm willing to give all those betting on Pavlik a 2 rd headstart.

Thankyou Santa

I wonder if this has been Khoders approach. :D

Maybe contacting the RIGHT people could help.

[Sox]

Dear Santa,

Can you please make a Pavlik vs Mundine fight happen this year so I can bet everyone who thinks Pavlik will beat Mundine. Santa I'm willing to give all those betting on Pavlik a 2 rd headstart.

Thankyou Santa
:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
This is funny on so many levels. :lol:

[teke]

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
This is funny on so many levels. :lol:You have connections with Santa to get my wish through?

[flamengo]

You have connections with Santa to get my wish through?

The Tooth fairy is Santa's P.R person... If you want to get to Santa, ya better contact the Tooth fairy.

Just sleep with your head under the pillow. Might wake up with no teeth though. :deal

[Bentchassis]

Dear Santa,

Can you please make a Pavlik vs Mundine fight happen this year so I can bet everyone who thinks Pavlik will beat Mundine. Santa I'm willing to give all those betting on Pavlik a 2 rd headstart.

Thankyou Santa



Pity it wont get to round 2:D

[teke]

The Tooth fairy is Santa's P.R person... If you want to get to Santa, ya better contact the Tooth fairy.

So I have to go into the MMA forum to see if anyone knows the Rock? Bloody hell :-(:-(

[Sox]

You have connections with Santa to get my wish through?
It'd be nice, but I think you even know it's not gonna happen.

[teke]

It'd be nice, but I think you even know it's not gonna happen.Dam shame cause i would love to own the forum again :smoke

[flamengo]

Dam shame cause i would love to own the forum again :smoke


LMAO.. Mate, right about now, you'd be battling to put the forum on lay-by. :D

[ashley]

So, is three people a circle jerk or a triangle jerk?


5 things for you hater...


1. Has the Martinez fight been signed yet???? Pavlik V PW was made 155 times :hey

2. Eeven if it gets made they will pull out.

3. Mundine wont be ready until May because of surgery

4. You know and respect 2 of the 3 three people I'm talking about :tong

5. They wont tell you because your a C$#@ :deal

[JOSEY WALES]

Ash do you think the Wood fight will prepare Mundine enough to take on these world class opponents ?

[ashley]

ash do you think the wood fight will prepare mundine enough to take on these world class opponents ?

no

[JOSEY WALES]

no

Ash Mundine has done himself no favours fighting these smaller blokes over the last two or three years and it will show v world class comp, IF he ever fights @ World class level again he will be in serious trouble imo . floor to ceiling balls , Bouncers from EN ZED and Rugby players ain't good preperation for fights of this magnitude :deal

[ashley]

Ash Mundine has done himself no favours fighting these smaller blokes over the last two or three years and it will show v world class comp, IF he ever fights @ World class level again he will be in serious trouble imo . floor to ceiling balls , Bouncers from EN ZED and Rugby players ain't good preperation for fights of this magnitude :deal

I agree......however Wood will be a bigger bloke :hey

[teke]

Ash do you think the Wood fight will prepare Mundine enough to take on these world class opponents ?You dont prepare yourself for any world title bout with single fights...it's all done in sparring. If he gets good sparring then he could fight anyone tomorrow. You and I both know this

[ashley]

You dont prepare yourself for any world title bout with single fights...it's all done in sparring. If he gets good sparring then he could fight anyone tomorrow. You and I both know this

Good point mate :good

I would also say Mundine should go to the states and fight a guy like Manfredo to get used to the preperation and style of fighting in the states before he flogs Pavlik :yep

[patrick]

Mundine versus Pavlik, yeah right!

Not so long ago it was Mundine versus Calz???

Then Mundine v Abraham, then Mundine v Sturm, then Mundine V who the f##k ever!

When will this ever bloody stop.

He's not going to fight Pavlik, simple as that!

The opportunities were there to take the same path taken by Vic and Mick Katz but the bottom line is, why risk it when the money is right here.

Little risk, large reward.

To the Ashley's and Lud's of this world, I honestly believe you could stand right in front of the Opera House and still not see it.

[flamengo]

You dont prepare yourself for any world title bout with single fights...it's all done in sparring. If he gets good sparring then he could fight anyone tomorrow. You and I both know this

:nono Mundine's last half dozen fights have done him no favours at all.

Struggling to convincingly beat anyone will show out IF he EVER fights a TRUE champ.

We all know it wont happen... so he may as well keep on sparring and preparing to make SSSSSS and no significance on the international scene.

[flamengo]

Good point mate :good

I would also say Mundine should go to the states and fight a guy like Manfredo to get used to the preperation and style of fighting in the states before he flogs Pavlik :yep


BLAH BLAH BLAH...

Mundine would have to beat every opponent in the States by 8 rounds to even get a draw. For Mundine, as it is for his opponents here, the biggest hurdle will be getting past the judges.

[JOSEY WALES]

You dont prepare yourself for any world title bout with single fights...it's all done in sparring. If he gets good sparring then he could fight anyone tomorrow. You and I both know this

No substitute for actually being in there fighting at the highest level you can to battle harden yourself up for World class opposition , you and i both know that as well .

[ashley]

Mundine versus Pavlik, yeah right!

Not so long ago it was Mundine versus Calz???

Then Mundine v Abraham, then Mundine v Sturm, then Mundine V who the f##k ever!

When will this ever bloody stop.

He's not going to fight Pavlik, simple as that!

The opportunities were there to take the same path taken by Vic and Mick Katz but the bottom line is, why risk it when the money is right here.

Little risk, large reward.

To the Ashley's and Lud's of this world, I honestly believe you could stand right in front of the Opera House and still not see it.

Mate I was there last week....I may have been thinking about the Mundine fight while I was there......but fuck its a great building :good

[patrick]

You're right Ashley,

It is a great building.

Why didn't you just lift it up and take it home with you?

Just as much chance of that happening as Choc fighting Pavlic

[20a87]

I think mundine would have to fight the echols fight plan against pavlik - hit and hold or hit and move but stay of the ropes like he does sometimes. We all know he's good for 12 rounds at middleweight and if he fights his fight then its an easy nights work against a double jab right hand robot.

[flamengo]

I think mundine would have to fight the echols fight plan against pavlik - hit and hold or hit and move but stay of the ropes like he does sometimes. We all know he's good for 12 rounds at middleweight and if he fights his fight then its an easy nights work against a double jab right hand robot.

Yeah.. there's so much comparison between Echols and Pav..... You fuckhead.

[ashley]

You're right Ashley,

It is a great building.

Why didn't you just lift it up and take it home with you?

Just as much chance of that happening as Choc fighting Pavlic


Now you have been doing too much of this :rastaand this :hat

[ozziebattler]

Well look at the past 4 guys Miguel Espino fought before fighting Pavlik, a combined record of 81-51-7, hardly worthy of a world title shot. All he had going for him was a WBC #3 rating (god knows how) and appearance in the first series of the Contender.

Mundine has a WBA #1, IBF #4 and WBO #8 rating and won the IBO middleweight title 2 fights ago. Surely he is worthy of a shot if Espino is.

If I was Pavlik, I'd go for Williams, then if not, decide which one of Mundine or Martinez generates the most $$$. I'm almost certain it'd be Mundine.


Pavlik was coming back from a injury and used the Espino fight as one to blow the ringrust.

And you think Mundine would fight for the purse Espino got??

He got like 55grand.

[flamengo]

Now you have been doing too much of this :rastaand this :hat


You continue talking this :dead

[20a87]

Yeah.. there's so much comparison between Echols and Pav..... You fuckhead.

there is both middleweights, both big hitters (supposedly), both tailor made for a slick boxer

[teke]

No substitute for actually being in there fighting at the highest level you can to battle harden yourself up for World class opposition , you and i both know that as well .I get a feeling this could go around in circles :lol:

[20a87]

He's been hit by super middleweights so pavlik wont be that hard, his sparring would be crucial - not a fight from 3 months before

[flamengo]

there is both middleweights, both big hitters (supposedly), both tailor made for a slick boxer

(supposedly) ?????

So you're talking about something you have no idea about, then adding a fight plan for Mundine. Perfect.

Try this on for size... Pav is a long time Champ with will to mix with Big names..

Echols is a dud who met Mudine at SM/W..

Mundine is no longer a slick boxer. His lightening jab being his only effective punch at this stage.

Maybe you should work for TeamMundine.

[patrick]

I've got a feeling that 20a87 has been going around in circles.


In the blazing sun!!!!!

[flamengo]

I've got a feeling that 20a87 has been going around in circles.


In the blazing sun!!!!!


This stuff gets bloody tedious. If Mundine read half of it he'd probably shake his head in regret, wishing he'd captured the hearts of more than just idiots. :good

[20a87]

(supposedly) ?????

So you're talking about something you have no idea about, then adding a fight plan for Mundine. Perfect.

Try this on for size... Pav is a long time Champ with will to mix with Big names..

Echols is a dud who met Mudine at SM/W..

Mundine is no longer a slick boxer. His lightening jab being his only effective punch at this stage.

Maybe you should work for TeamMundine.

No i'm sayin its a myth pavlik is a cumulative puncher, pav is a long time champ because he has been out injured, williams, martinez or mundine should beat him.

Everyone reckoned echols had a big right hand like pavlik.

Saying mundine is not a slick boxer anymore because you don't want him to be does not mean its true :patsch.

[20a87]

This stuff gets bloody tedious. If Mundine read half of it he'd probably shake his head in regret, wishing he'd captured the hearts of more than just idiots. :good

Because I don't agree with your narrow viewpoint i'm an idiot?

good one:patsch

[flamengo]

I've got a feeling that 20a87 has been going around in circles.


In the blazing sun!!!!!

Definately..... He doesn't aknowlege being an idiot either.

[flamengo]

No i'm sayin its a myth pavlik is a cumulative puncher, pav is a long time champ because he has been out injured, williams, martinez or mundine should beat him.

Everyone reckoned echols had a big right hand like pavlik.

Saying mundine is not a slick boxer anymore because you don't want him to be does not mean its true :patsch.

The days that Mundine 'should' beat anyone of recognition are over...

Deal with it. Sherrington is his most likely opponent after Wood.

[20a87]

Definately..... He doesn't aknowlege being an idiot either.

yeah i'm the idiot:patsch

[20a87]

The days that Mundine 'should' beat anyone of recognition are over...

Deal with it. Sherrington is his most likely opponent after Wood.

If you say so :lol:

[flamengo]

yeah i'm the idiot:patsch

Just saving the 'c' and the 'd' for when I call you a Dumb Cunt.... :hi:

[ozziebattler]

Im just blown away by some of the people on here..

Fuck i get some of you hold Mundine in high regard but seriously if it was true he could but the likes of Pavlik so essily then why he lose to the likes of Kessler,Ottke and Siaca(god i love that one the most)...

And why is it he struggles to beat the pillow fisted Daniel geale?

Come on guys yes mundine is good and naturally talented but if he was really as good as some of you truely believe then he wouldnt even be living in Australia let alone fighting here..

The fucking bloke would own vegas..

[20a87]

Just saving the 'c' and the 'd' for when I call you a Dumb Cunt.... :hi:


I'll take that as a signal your argument is weak and that you are too proud to admit it :lol::happy

[dominator]

Pavlik was coming back from a injury and used the Espino fight as one to blow the ringrust.

And you think Mundine would fight for the purse Espino got??

He got like 55grand.

Mundine would bring more to the table than Espino, so $55k is irrelevant in the scheme of things.

Pavlik's camp have mentioned Mundine as a possible opponent for around a year now but he's only had the one fight since Rubio, so although I'd be surprised to hear a fight with Choc be announced, I wouldn't be completely shocked.

[ozziebattler]

I personaly just wish the bloke would fight a genuine champ like Sturm or Pavlik so we could get the 100% true answer to his abilities and be done with the constant bickering about the bloke..

Fuck its getting very annoying.

We dont even talk about Vic Darchinyan that much and he is a ppv box office star of the boxing world.

[20a87]

Im just blown away by some of the people on here..

Fuck i get some of you hold Mundine in high regard but seriously if it was true he could but the likes of Pavlik so essily then why he lose to the likes of Kessler,Ottke and Siaca(god i love that one the most)...

And why is it he struggles to beat the pillow fisted Daniel geale?

Come on guys yes mundine is good and naturally talented but if he was really as good as some of you truely believe then he wouldnt even be living in Australia let alone fighting here..

The fucking bloke would own vegas..

Don't get me wrong I'm aware of his shortcomings and he should of fought better opposition etc but you can't knock him as a money maker.

Trying to say anything positive about mundine is met with a torrent of abuse on this forum but it's my opinion and saying i'm a cunt etc for expressing my opinion is a bit ott imo. This thread was meant to be a discussion about the source luds posted but as usual has descended into a petty slanging match because not everyone agrees.

[ozziebattler]

Mundine would bring more to the table than Espino, so $55k is irrelevant in the scheme of things.

Pavlik's camp have mentioned Mundine as a possible opponent for around a year now but he's only had the one fight since Rubio, so although I'd be surprised to hear a fight with Choc be announced, I wouldn't be completely shocked.

Explain what he would bring to the table?

Im very interested on what Mundine could bring to the table that Pavlik hasnt already got or could get fighting any1 else..

[flamengo]

I'll take that as a signal your argument is weak and that you are too proud to admit it :lol::happy

No dip shit, it's an indication that I incorrectly spelt the word 'acknowledge', then offered a little sledge for your own pleasure.

You have not offered me a single educated arguement..... I'm still waiting for that.

[teke]

Fuck i get some of you hold Mundine in high regard but seriously if it was true he could but the likes of Pavlik so essily then why he lose to the likes of Kessler,Ottke and Siaca(god i love that one the most)...

Easy answer from me...Ottke, KEss and Siaca...Mundine wasnt anywhere near as complete a fighter as he is now. Styles makes fights with Geale...Geale is fast and can counter punch quick.

I say Mundine can beat him convincingly cause of their fighting attributes, would love to be corrected :p

[flamengo]

Mundine brings nothing to Pavliks table. Pav's the Champ...

[20a87]

No dip shit, it's an indication that I incorrectly spelt the word 'acknowledge', then offered a little sledge for your own pleasure.

You have not offered me a single educated arguement..... I'm still waiting for that.

lol :happy

Read the thread I've made all my points on why I think he'll win :patsch

[ozziebattler]

Don't get me wrong I'm aware of his shortcomings and he should of fought better opposition etc but you can't knock him as a money maker.

.

True fighters dont get into the sport for the money..

They get into the sport as they are deep down born fighters who want nothing more then to test themselves against another man on their quest to achieve greatest in the squared circle .

The money comes along with the territory.Believe me you ask ANY fighter what they cherished or still hold onto dearly about their fighting career.

SURE AS SHIT AINT THE MONEY..

If respect was earned by a fighters bank balance then Mundine would be sitting very nicely on the pecking order..

Unfortunetly respect is earned by testing yourself inside the ring and sometimes doing so when the cards are stacked against you..

I dont care for Mundine..When he steps out of his comfort zone come see me.

I much rather throw my respect towards blokes like Michael Katsidis and Vic Darchinyan.

[flamengo]

lol :happy

Read the thread I've made all my points on why I think he'll win :patsch

Wow.. another spelling error. That means Mundine is superior in every facet.. lmao.

Reading your dribble has nothing to do with Mundine winning a game of marbles, let alone beating a worthy opponent. He will not face a genuine World Class fighter again.

It's as simple as that. Please spell check for me.

[ozziebattler]

I say Mundine can beat him convincingly cause of their fighting attributes, would love to be corrected :p

Theres no point..

You guys are dillusional..

It aint ever going to happen.Im going to be pissed when Mundine retires as we will be flooded with bullshit threads on Mundine being avoided by the champs inwhich didnt allow us to witness his true greatness.

Im a massive Tommy Morrison fan but i still call a spade a spade in regards to his abilities etc..

I guess i should applaud your devotion to a man who really hasnt delivered the required results to garner it.

[flamengo]

I want to live with a Mundine Nut Hugger....

There's obviously copious amounts of drugs and booze on the offer... lol.

[20a87]

Wow.. another spelling error. That means Mundine is superior in every facet.. lmao.

Reading your dribble has nothing to do with Mundine winning a game of marbles, let alone beating a worthy opponent. He will not face a genuine World Class fighter again.

It's as simple as that. Please spell check for me.


No need you already did lol :deal

I've made all my points properly. You have resorted to trying to get a name calling tit for tat underway. If you think pavlik will smash mundine that's great but you don't say why except that he fights everyone and is a long reigning champ. If you have sensible points to make then make them but there's no need for the shit you spew :patsch

[teke]

Theres no point..

You guys are dillusional..
Dellusional cause i think he can beat him easy? How so?

Pavlik is more robotic than Green, probably has worse footwork, probably doesnt hit as hard. Pavlik is no fucking SRL, makes me sick ppl talking him up so highly esp seeing his last few fights :-((

Im fully aware of Mundines abilities, who he can and cant beat.

Delusional cause i think Mundine cant beat him...nah not close

[20a87]

Dellusional cause i think he can beat him easy? How so?

Pavlik is more robotic than Green, probably has worse footwork, probably doesnt hit as hard. Pavlik is no fucking SRL, makes me sick ppl talking him up so highly esp seeing his last few fights :-((

Im fully aware of Mundines abilities, who he can and cant beat.

Delusional cause i think Mundine cant beat him...nah not close

Jab, jab, cross. He had no clue when hopkins picked him off with angles and lateral movement.

Agreed and he has all the tools to beat him.

[teke]

Jab, jab, cross. He had no clue when hopkins picked him off with angles and lateral movement.

Agreed and he has all the tools to beat him.You shouldnt have said that loud, we will get abused for that :-(:lol:

[WhataRock]

Pavlik is not more robotic then the Tinman Danny Green.

Your bending facts to get your point across there teke...Kelly is predictable but has at least proven himself against a far superior level of opposition compared to Danny.

[teke]

Pavlik is not more robotic then the Tinman Danny Green.

Your bending facts to get your point across there teke...Kelly is predictable but has at least proven himself against a far superior level of opposition compared to Danny.Mate his footwork is terrible, worse than Greens. It's where it all starts with him. Far Superior opposition? better yes but not far.

[flamengo]

No need you already did lol :deal

I've made all my points properly. You have resorted to trying to get a name calling tit for tat underway. If you think pavlik will smash mundine that's great but you don't say why except that he fights everyone and is a long reigning champ. If you have sensible points to make then make them but there's no need for the shit you spew :patsch


Try a few comma's... Although a coma is more suitable.

Have you seen Mundine/Medley??

Pav, in your estimation is a double jab- right hand robot... Well, that's two punches better than a single jab Mundine. Pav works well moving forward and his own reach is more than enough to keep Mandy on the back foot in avoiding lengthy right hands with a dose of power...

That is where Mandy failed pathetically with Siaca and Kessler.

Boxing off the back foot with a simple left jab is not even close to enough for Mandy vs Pav. Countering was almost laughable against Medley. No disrespect to Medley, he stepped up and fought a quality bout against Mandy- using a tight defence throughout that Mandy found near impossible to penetrate until the later rounds with the left hand.

Mundines power is no longer there.. nor was it there at M/W. Pav would walk through him.

Keep argueing... put your little icons all over the responses.. dribble away.. blah blah.. check my spelling.. what ever.

[teke]

Mundine UD Pavlik :deal

[flamengo]

Mundine UD Pavlik :deal


In Oz.. with 3 NSW Officials. :deal

[20a87]

Try a few comma's... Although a coma is more suitable.

Have you seen Mundine/Medley??

Pav, in your estimation is a double jab- right hand robot... Well, that's two punches better than a single jab Mundine. Pav works well moving forward and his own reach is more than enough to keep Mandy on the back foot in avoiding lengthy right hands with a dose of power...

That is where Mandy failed pathetically with Siaca and Kessler.

Boxing off the back foot with a simple left jab is not even close to enough for Mandy vs Pav. Countering was almost laughable against Medley. No disrespect to Medley, he stepped up and fought a quality bout against Mandy- using a tight defence throughout that Mandy found near impossible to penetrate until the later rounds with the left hand.

Mundines power is no longer there.. nor was it there at M/W. Pav would walk through him.

Keep argueing... put your little icons all over the responses.. dribble away.. blah blah.. check my spelling.. what ever.

I wish there was a tumbleweed icon.

Yeah saw the fight and I hope you feel better for actually posting something regarding the sport albeit sandwiched between nonsense. Pavlik can only move forward or backward and he is good at pressing the fight but if mundine gets off first and can make him go back to the ropes he can flurry and pick up points. His combination punching against medley was impressive despite medleys tight guard at least one or two shots would get through and score. When pavlik comes forward the jab and move or jab and hold should prevent too many right hands. This fight would be a case of speed kills.

It's arguing :deal

[teke]

In Oz.. with 3 NSW Officials. :dealHe could have 3 Dutch judges similar to the one for the Kessler fight and still win :p

Pavlik is one dude that annoys me, along with that other chap...:huh from Wales I think.

[WhataRock]

Mate his footwork is terrible, worse than Greens. It's where it all starts with him. Far Superior opposition? better yes but not far.

Im assuming you base this mainly on the Hopkins fight. Nard makes good fighters look like average ones, its just what he does.

Kelly knows what he is doing in terms of distancing, balance and distributing his weight. He cuts off the ring competently enough.
His feet are slow but his overall footwork is not absolutely terrible..Its not good but he would have not been able to rise to the heights he has if it was as bad as you are making out.

And yes his opposition has been much better then Green's...not hard to see that one surely.

[teke]

Im assuming you base this mainly on the Hopkins fight. Nard makes good fighters look like average ones, its just what he does.

Kelly knows what he is doing in terms of distancing, balance and distributing his weight. He cuts off the ring competently enough.
His feet are slow but his overall footwork is not absolutely terrible..Its not good but he would have not been able to rise to the heights he has if it was as bad as you are making out.

And yes his opposition has been much better then Green's...not hard to see that one surely.Surely you know me better than to base his ability on Hopkins. From day dot I have not rated him that highly.

I'll just agree to disagree about the opposition cause i cant be fucked talking about Pavlik:D

[WhataRock]

Nah Im not letting you off that lightly :D

There is no disputing it Kelly has fought and beat better opposition. Moving up and getting schooled by Hopkins is more respectable then getting schooled by Choc at your best weight.
Which ever way you want to look at it Kelly has the deeper resume and has proved himself as a better fighter.

Check all my past posts regarding Kelly...He is FAR from my favorite fighter and though I do enjoy his fights, I have never ever been on his hype train ..I basically picked against him in all his major fights, starting with Miranda and actually thought he might lose against Zertuche at the time.

[Francis75]

Imo Pavlik would beat Mundine by UD something like 118-110 or 117-111 or thereabouts. Mundine would fight scared and simple wouldn't let his hands go.
Does Mundine have the boxing ability to beat Pavlik - YES
Would Mundine beat Pavlik -Imo NO

[TheDuke]

Easy answer from me...Ottke, KEss and Siaca...Mundine wasnt anywhere near as complete a fighter as he is now. Styles makes fights with Geale...Geale is fast and can counter punch quick.

I say Mundine can beat him convincingly cause of their fighting attributes, would love to be corrected :p

A complete fighter who 3 fights ago couldn't knock out a guy that Mosley blew away 8 years ago. Impressive! A guy who is 8 years older, ravaged by drugs, fighting way past his best weight and has been KO'd by domestic fighters both before and after the Mundine fight.

Seriously, the delusional current amongst Mundine fans on here is reaching critical mass.

[teke]

A complete fighter who 3 fights ago couldn't knock out a guy that Mosley blew away 8 years ago. Impressive! A guy who is 8 years older, ravaged by drugs, fighting way past his best weight and has been KO'd by domestic fighters both before and after the Mundine fight.

Seriously, the delusional current amongst Mundine fans on here is reaching critical mass.huh? Fuckoff with that A fighter beats B beats C fighter shit. If you had followed his career you would know exactly what im talking about.

[TheDuke]

That wasn't an A v B v C comparison. Failing to knockout Taylor shows that his power is GONE which hardly makes him more complete now does it?

[teke]

That wasn't an A v B v C comparison. Failing to knockout Taylor shows that his power is GONE which hardly makes him more complete now does it?Well you are right about his power going not equalling completeness (is that a word).

By complete I meant Mundine now is twice the fighter than the one that fought Ottke, maybe Siaca even. Anyway my Mundine ranting days are over til he fights again. It's now coming up to footy season.

[ashley]

Well you are right about his power going not equalling completeness (is that a word).

By complete I meant Mundine now is twice the fighter than the one that fought Ottke, maybe Siaca even. Anyway my Mundine ranting days are over til he fights again. It's now coming up to footy season.

No drama mate...I will take over now :good

Mundines injury has held his power back over the last few years.....not being able to rotate at the hips and sit down on shots....now he's had the surgery he will be able to use his body to add force to his punches...its time for Mundine to start KPTFO....again :deal

[Contendo]

No drama mate...I will take over now :good

Mundines injury has held his power back over the last few years.....not being able to rotate at the hips and sit down on shots....now he's had the surgery he will be able to use his body to add force to his punches...its time for Mundine to start KPTFO....again :deal


Go Ash go! I knew you wouldn't let your side down!!! :yep

[stiflers mum]

go Choc.hope this fight comes off and flash in the pan loses.Mundine UD 120-108 flash in the pan,drunk Pavlik.:thumbsup
one of those rare occasions i will support Mundine.

[20a87]

No drama mate...I will take over now :good

Mundines injury has held his power back over the last few years.....not being able to rotate at the hips and sit down on shots....now he's had the surgery he will be able to use his body to add force to his punches...its time for Mundine to start KPTFO....again :deal

Lets hope!
Still nothing official about pavlik vs martinez hopefully arum was talking out his arse yesterday - my optimism for a mundine vs pavlik middleweight showdown is starting to return who needs pac vs pbf?????

[roscoe]

I for one hope Pavlik v mandy happens this year. If it does I think Ash will go ballistic.

[Sox]

No drama mate...I will take over now :good

Mundines injury has held his power back over the last few years.....not being able to rotate at the hips and sit down on shots....now he's had the surgery he will be able to use his body to add force to his punches...its time for Mundine to start KPTFO....again :deal
I'm not sure who's funnier, you or Teke. :yep

[ashley]

Lets hope!
Still nothing official about pavlik vs martinez hopefully arum was talking out his arse yesterday - my optimism for a mundine vs pavlik middleweight showdown is starting to return who needs pac vs pbf?????

Yeah and this fight was "made" right :rofl

Mundine looks like the one Pavlik will fight....Sturm wont leave Germany...Martinez will stay at 154.

[fast hands]

go Choc.hope this fight comes off and flash in the pan loses.Mundine UD 120-108 flash in the pan,drunk Pavlik.:thumbsup
one of those rare occasions i will support Mundine.

Flash in the pan eh !!!
Most boxers would kill to have a record like Pavlik's. 98 amateur fights 36-1-0 [ 32 ko's ] in the pros against some good opposition. Tall for a middleweight long reach and tough with a 7 year age advantage on Mundine. We haven't seen the best of Pavlik yet . Hopefully we've just about seen the last of Mundine.
I don't believe this fight will ever get made, " The Pioneer " should be thankful for that.

[Above Deck]

Pavlik would make short work of Mundine.

If Crazy Kim can rattle Mundines cage, then Pavliks
power would be far too much for Mundine, early
stoppage would be the order of the day.

[goodnight]

I don't believe this fight will ever get made, " The Pioneer " should be thankful for that.

the pioneer will make sure it won't.

[crash]

I like Pav,but ill cheer for choc,being an Aussie.I actually think choc can win this 1,if he shows some balls.:bbb

[kruger]

Pavlik would make short work of Mundine.

If Crazy Kim can rattle Mundines cage, then Pavliks
power would be far too much for Mundine, early
stoppage would be the order of the day.


Where would you rate the following fighters power?

Echols
Green
Kessler
Pavlik

[WhataRock]

For pure punching power probably Echols (primish version) tops that list.

But having power is one thing and being able to land with it is another.

[luds]

Why do people post on here acting like they have some boxing knowledge but then mention ottke,kessler and siaca.
The nearest of those fights being 5 years or so ago shows nothing about his ability in 2010.
Sure he isnt knocking out opponents like before,but as long as he wins on points who cares.
Its no different than green loosing to beyer,the smashing rjj in 122 seconds.
If we based all greens current ability on what he looked like when he lost to beyer then how did he destroy rjj like that.
One or two losses doesnt mean its over or that mundine has lost anything other than timing.

[TheDuke]

Why do people post on here acting like they have some boxing knowledge but then mention ottke,kessler and siaca.
The nearest of those fights being 5 years or so ago shows nothing about his ability in 2010.
Sure he isnt knocking out opponents like before,but as long as he wins on points who cares.
Its no different than green loosing to beyer,the smashing rjj in 122 seconds.
If we based all greens current ability on what he looked like when he lost to beyer then how did he destroy rjj like that.
One or two losses doesnt mean its over or that mundine has lost anything other than timing.

You are right.

Mundine has not fought a significant opponent for 5 years.

[luds]

You are right.

Mundine has not fought a significant opponent for 5 years.


He hasnt fought a world champion perhaps is closer to the truth,but that doesnt mean he has lost anything.
Its hypothetical until it happens,if it happens

[TheDuke]

He hasnt fought a world champion perhaps is closer to the truth,but that doesnt mean he has lost anything.
Its hypothetical until it happens,if it happens

His best fight in this period IMO was the demolition of Soliman. But even as a huge Mundine fan you must be disappointed that his international opponents in this second half of his career could probably be considered 'insignificant'?

[goodnight]

Mundine has not fought a significant opponent for 5 years.


thats all i read out of that statement.

[Briggsy]

Why do people post on here acting like they have some boxing knowledge but then mention ottke,kessler and siaca.
The nearest of those fights being 5 years or so ago shows nothing about his ability in 2010.
Sure he isnt knocking out opponents like before,but as long as he wins on points who cares.
Its no different than green loosing to beyer,the smashing rjj in 122 seconds.
If we based all greens current ability on what he looked like when he lost to beyer then how did he destroy rjj like that.
One or two losses doesnt mean its over or that mundine has lost anything other than timing.
What have you seen from Mundine that gives Kessler a hard time now? His superb effort against Crazy Kim? Are you saying a prime Green would beat prime Roy?

All we have is Mundine's record, which boasts his best win against almost shot Echols (now shot).

[goodnight]

All we have is Mundine's record, which boasts his best win against almost shot Echols (now shot).

a twice shot echols - he still had a bullet lodged in him when he fought mundine.

[ashley]

Funny if Echols beats Les....would he still be shot then :huh

[flamengo]

Funny if Echols beats Les....would he still be shot then :huh

'Shot' meaning real bullets.. Der..

Les will trash Echols in short time, opening a door for another fabricated Mandy fight.. Problem being, Mandy might fall against Sherro. :hi:

[ashley]

'Shot' meaning real bullets.. Der..

Les will trash Echols in short time, opening a door for another fabricated Mandy fight.. Problem being, Mandy might fall against Sherro. :hi:

:D:lol::rofl:rofl:nutcase:lloll

[flamengo]

:D:lol::rofl:rofl:nutcase:lloll

.......I guess that means the fight is ON. :deal

[ashley]

.......I guess that means the fight is ON. :deal

Ummmm....NO :-(

[flamengo]

Ummmm....NO :-(

Cool. It's confirmed now.

Does Les have to move to M/W??????????.... or 71.5??

[ashley]

Cool. It's confirmed now.

Does Les have to move to M/W??????????.... or 71.5??

No...147 :hey

[flamengo]

No...147 :hey

No, no. I know.. You know.. We know the plausble weight.

[ashley]

No, no. I know.. You know.. We know the plausble weight.

Ok ok....154 :good

[patrick]

If Sherrington looks the slightest bit dangerous against Echols he can kiss goodbye to any chance he ever had of fighting Mundine.

[luds]

His best fight in this period IMO was the demolition of Soliman. But even as a huge Mundine fan you must be disappointed that his international opponents in this second half of his career could probably be considered 'insignificant'?

agreed,but i know a big fight is coming.

[flamengo]

agreed,but i know a big fight is coming.


He'sbollah vs She'sbollah??

[luds]

Mundine has put himself out there in such a way that he wont just finish his career fighting average blokes.

[20a87]

Mundine has put himself out there in such a way that he wont just finish his career fighting average blokes.

:deal yep.

Still nothin official on the pavlik - williams - martinez triangle. If ashley was correct about what's been offered by choc to get pavlik then hopefully that will swing his decision and might offset the hbo ppv money as i think mundine vs pavlik would only get a top rank ppv or a hbo world championship slot.

[fast hands]

You are talking about the bloke who handed back his IBO belt rather than rematch Geale ?
Promised Medley a title shot at 154 then changed the rules less than a week out from the fight ?
You people are delusional.
Some posters say they don't like him but if he ever fights a good overseas fighter they'll be in his corner.

I can't wait to see this fraud get smashed.

[ashley]

You are talking about the bloke who handed back his IBO belt rather than rematch Geale ?
Promised Medley a title shot at 154 then changed the rules less than a week out from the fight ?
You people are delusional.
Some posters say they don't like him but if he ever fights a good overseas fighter they'll be in his corner.

I can't wait to see this fraud get smashed.


Were you saying the same thing 9 years ago....it's ok...you cant tell the truth :yep

[fast hands]

Were you saying the same thing 9 years ago....it's ok...you cant tell the truth :yep


It's probably me !! I just can't hack lying , self obsessive big noters who continually blow their own trumpets.

[Francis75]

Mundine has put himself out there in such a way that he wont just finish his career fighting average blokes.

You are probably correct. He will probably finish his career fighting guys who are worse than average.

[flamengo]

You are probably correct. He will probably finish his career fighting guys who are worse than average.

True.. a worse than average bloke with finish his career.

[ozziebattler]

No drama mate...I will take over now :good

Mundines injury has held his power back over the last few years.....not being able to rotate at the hips and sit down on shots....now he's had the surgery he will be able to use his body to add force to his punches...its time for Mundine to start KPTFO....again :deal


Its held him back from lat few years?

You are full of it..I have had serious hip flexor and groin problems since i was 15 through footy..

I tore the tendons straight off the bone and was the youngest person in Australia that oz's best surgeon for these kind of injuries (DR NEIL HALPIN) had to operate on(100% truth) i was 16..Halpin has performed over 3000ops and said to me only20 people have had ongoing problems...Me being one of them. Along with Andrew johns and Harry Kewell.(They are just 2 actual high profile blokes he rattled off to me).

Mundines injury is a minor injury(though a very annoying one)which with surgery will have him back in full training by 6weeks tops..

This injury would of been a recent one.So you assuming its has held him back for the past few years is ridiculous..

Im the groin specialist mate..3 operations and over 25 cortizone shots later its still pretty fucked..I thank Penrith for making me take the shots before everygame when i was only 15/16 which is actually illegal..

But stupid me and my fokes we signed off on it at the time...

[flamengo]

OB.. I sympathize with your groin problem mate.. I've had a very small groin problem since birth...

The Doc cut off half my cock when circumcising me.. a 10" stump is all that remains.

[ozziebattler]

OB.. I sympathize with your groin problem mate.. I've had a very small groin problem since birth...

The Doc cut off half my cock when circumcising me.. a 10" stump is all that remains.


Classic....

Dont get me started on circumcision...Believe it or not i woke up halfway through the procedure(i was around 4-5year old)..Had a allergic reaction to the drugs and was stuck in MT DRUITT FUCKING HOSPITAL for a week..

They done a nice job in the end though.And dont bag me for getting it so late my fokes had me very young so who knows what the fuck they were thinking..

[flamengo]

Classic....

Dont get me started on circumcision...Believe it or not i woke up halfway through the procedure(i was around 4-5year old)..Had a allergic reaction to the drugs and was stuck in MT DRUITT FUCKING HOSPITAL for a week..

They done a nice job in the end though.And dont bag me for getting it so late my fokes had me very young so who knows what the fuck they were thinking..

Mate... I couldn't help but to laugh plenty.. Getting snipped at 4 or 5.. And you think the allergic drug reaction was suffered by only YOU..

lol lol lol lol.. That's a fkn pisser. :rofl :good

Should have used the snipped skin as a wrist ornament.. "Got the time on ya, Old fella??? :D

[LeonMcS]

I've had three successful penis reduction surgeries but am still able to lease it out on weekends as a tower for mobile reception.

It also has its own postcode.

[ashley]

So now you 3 fags are talking about dicks on a boxing forum :lol:

[Sox]

So now you 3 fags are talking about dicks on a boxing forum :lol:
No different to talking about Mandy. :hey

[flamengo]

So now you 3 fags are talking about dicks on a boxing forum :lol:

Speaking of dicks.. Hello Ash.

[ashley]

Speaking of dicks.. Hello Ash.

Its bad enough that your a closet Mundine nut hugger...but please dont tell me your a fag as well :scaredas:

[ozziebattler]

Mate... I couldn't help but to laugh plenty.. Getting snipped at 4 or 5.. And you think the allergic drug reaction was suffered by only YOU..

lol lol lol lol.. That's a fkn pisser. :rofl :good

Should have used the snipped skin as a wrist ornament.. "Got the time on ya, Old fella??? :D


Mate all in all im glad i got the snip..

Chicks dont dig the slug that unsnipees have..

Its fucking disgusting..

I think some fucked up Mt druitt doctor would of suggested to my young and dumbass parents that its unhealthy having the extra skin.My mum would of freaked and as a result i got the snip and was crook as a dog for yonks after it..

[ozziebattler]

So now you 3 fags are talking about dicks on a boxing forum :lol:

Thought we should change things up abit..

Instead of talking about Softcocks(Mundine) lets talk about circumsized cocks..

[flamengo]

Mate all in all im glad i got the snip..

Chicks dont dig the slug that unsnipees have..

Its fucking disgusting..

I think some fucked up Mt druitt doctor would of suggested to my young and dumbass parents that its unhealthy having the extra skin.My mum would of freaked and as a result i got the snip and was crook as a dog for yonks after it..

C'mon mate.. It was no skin of ya nose.. lol

As long as it spits in the face of any chick who deserves it, be happy.

Enough small talk mate.. lol.. Ash is getting turned on.. :rofl

[ashley]

C'mon mate.. It was no skin of ya nose.. lol

As long as it spits in the face of any chick who deserves it, be happy.

Enough small talk mate.. lol.. Ash is getting turned on.. :rofl

WTF......:bolt

[flamengo]

WTF......:bolt

...Off to get tissues hey?? lol

[ozziebattler]

The oz forum is the greatest part of this site..

No holds barred here.Love it...

[flamengo]

The oz forum is the greatest part of this site..

No holds barred here.Love it...


..some of the 'Off Topic' posts are cut a bit short though..

lol.

[WhataRock]

What happened to the short-sighted circumcisor?








He got the sack.

[JOSEY WALES]

What happened to the short-sighted circumcisor?








He got the sack.

I hid under the sea WAR when they wanted to do that to me ...


But they sent down four skin divers to capture me ...:shock:

[ashley]

I hid under the sea WAR when they wanted to do that to me ...


But they sent down four skin divers to capture me ...:shock:



:rofl:rofl:rofl

[flamengo]

I hid under the sea WAR when they wanted to do that to me ...


But they sent down four skin divers to capture me ...:shock:

...Another great joke from Mr. Shrimp.

You're the Captain of a little Tugg boat.. lol

Luv ya Josey..

[JOSEY WALES]

...Another great joke from Mr. Shrimp.

You're the Captain of a little Tugg boat.. lol

Luv ya Josey..

:lol: Fuck me it got serious around here for a few days , i thought i was in the General for a while :huh

[ozziebattler]

:lol: Fuck me it got serious around here for a few days , i thought i was in the General for a while :huh

Yeah it was starting to get out of hand..

Hard to muck about when half the blokes in here are fighting for the juiciest part of Mundines balls.

The minute you mention anything other then his name they get the violin out...

[teke]

Yeah it was starting to get out of hand..

Hard to muck about when half the blokes in here are fighting for the juiciest part of Mundines balls.

:lol::lol:

It has been like this since day dot on this forum.

Being Critical of Mundine = long debate, Giving Mundine Praise = long debate :yep

Oi you reckon you can pick winners on the upcoming UFC 109? Im gonna be betting a fair bit on sports during the year and need some winners

[JOSEY WALES]

Yeah it was starting to get out of hand..

Hard to muck about when half the blokes in here are fighting for the juiciest part of Mundines balls.

The minute you mention anything other then his name they get the violin out...

Yes mate the board is crying out for an ASH special Mundine STICKY thread , that way we wouldn't have this continual fucking spamming , what do you reckon ?

[ozziebattler]

:lol::lol:

It has been like this since day dot on this forum.

Being Critical of Mundine = long debate, Giving Mundine Praise = long debate :yep

Oi you reckon you can pick winners on the upcoming UFC 109? Im gonna be betting a fair bit on sports during the year and need some winners

Give me the fullcard and i think i can pick you some..

The natural will own Coleman..Coleman kills himself making lightheavy.In his prime days he weighed 255 now fighting at 205 he looks like a fragile old man and gases after one round...Predict ground and pound in late in round 2 for Randy.

[ozziebattler]

Yes mate the board is crying out for an ASH special Mundine STICKY thread , that way we wouldn't have this continual fucking spamming , what do you reckon ?

It must be done..

:good

[teke]

Give me the fullcard and i think i can pick you some..

The natural will own Coleman..Coleman kills himself making lightheavy.In his prime days he weighed 255 now fighting at 205 he looks like a fragile old man and gases after one round...Predict ground and pound in late in round 2 for Randy.Yeah will get you card soonish.

My workmate who is just MMA crazy has said the same thing ie. Randy winning but he thinks it could go to cards.

I might do a Sportsbet Thread to gather everyones opinions on all kinds of sports.

[TheDuke]

Mate all in all im glad i got the snip..

Chicks dont dig the slug that unsnipees have..

Its fucking disgusting..

I think some fucked up Mt druitt doctor would of suggested to my young and dumbass parents that its unhealthy having the extra skin.My mum would of freaked and as a result i got the snip and was crook as a dog for yonks after it..

C'mon dude, you're Irish. You're supposed to have a disgusting unsnipped slug. It's tradition!

[LeonMcS]

Teke, I'm sure you've posted more than once that you don't bet cash.

What happened?

[ozziebattler]

Yeah will get you card soonish.

My workmate who is just MMA crazy has said the same thing ie. Randy winning but he thinks it could go to cards.

I might do a Sportsbet Thread to gather everyones opinions on all kinds of sports.


Your mate could be right.

Randy's striking is average compared to the new breed of fighters but against a 100% wrestler like coleman he could get off a few shots.

But then i could see the bout being a boring wrestler v wrestler struggle which goes to the cards.

Both have great wrestling pedigree.

Mate UFC 110 here in Sydney is going to be great..I will know by tomorrow night if my Cuz has a ticket for me..Only problem is its going to cost 350bucks..But a chance to see Cro Cop and also witness The axeman shattering Bispings jaw is too much to refuse.

[ozziebattler]

C'mon dude, you're Irish. You're supposed to have a disgusting unsnipped slug. It's tradition!

Yeah im actually the only Male in my whole family(cuz's etc) that got the snip..

As i said before i think some doctor must of scared my mum into sending me to Mt Druitt butchers..Oh i mean Hospitals.

Im glad i got it done..the though of a unsnipped slug sickens me.lol..

[LeonMcS]

You think about unsnipped slugs?

[ozziebattler]

And duke i actrually on just got told about the Summer heights high show lastweek and grabbed the DVD..

That shit deserves a oscar...Is there more then one series??

[ozziebattler]

You think about unsnipped slugs?

No it sickens me..

Im actually hanging for some poon.The missus is having her ladies and its shitting me..Every fucking month i have to put up with this shit..

[LeonMcS]

Just the one.

But check out his previous show, 'We can be heroes'

[ozziebattler]

Will do..

Hes a funny fucker thats forsure..Those 3 characters he comes up with in Heights high are classic.

Is he a shirtlifter??

He comes across as one to me..And they do love their acting.

[TheDuke]

Great show loved by many people outside Oz too.

Anyway, time to earn your red wings. Just assign some old towels for the job every month.

Jon Harker will get any stains out.

[sallywinder]

So now you 3 fags are talking about dicks on a boxing forum :lol:

and how many threads have you started on him?:deal

[pecks]

Teke, I'm sure you've posted more than once that you don't bet cash.

What happened?
He found out that you can't pay for breast implants with v-cash.

[donkeyking]

and how many threads have you started on him?:deal

Nowhere near enough. The greatest league player to not play for Australia due to biased selectors. How is it that you always beat your opposition in every game and yet never get selected? Good thing he dumped league for boxing. Makes more in 30 minutes than a whole damn year without all the bullshit.

Now his is the boxer of his geneartion in Australia. No other Australian boxer has his skills and speed. The Man is a master of his own destiny. May all you haters burn in hell for eternity for not giving credit where it is due.

Allahu Akbar.

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[LeonMcS]

Well that'll get today moving along nicely.

[Contendo]

Oh dear.... :patsch

[WhataRock]

:lol:

[LeonMcS]

Look! Up in the sky!


Its a bird!


Its a plane!


Its the beige Superman!

[WhataRock]

What would be his kryptonite? :huh

Pork or a ranked contender?

[20a87]

What would be his kryptonite? :huh

Pork or a ranked contender?


Im not sure anything green would stop him, the last one that tried took a beating apparently :deal

[goodnight]

greatest league player never to make an effective tackle or pass the ball.....

[Sox]

It never ends. :nut

[Contendo]

greatest league player never to make an effective tackle or pass the ball.....


Dropped it with the line wide open in a Grand Final if I remember correctly.... :lol::lol::lol:

[perfect jet]

Dropped it with the line wide open in a Grand Final if I remember correctly.... :lol::lol::lol:

It's funny, I know Ainscough well and he copped a bit of flak for his late tackle which resulted in the penalty try. Mundine got let off very lightly for not passing the ball with a try begging.

He cost em dearly in that game but admittedly he carved up for most of that season to help get em there.

Better than Daley? No way. I'm a Saints fan but prime Daley gets picked in any team before Choc.

[Sydney Smutt]

:huh:huh:huh

[goodnight]

It's funny, I know Ainscough well and he copped a bit of flak for his late tackle which resulted in the penalty try. Mundine got let off very lightly for not passing the ball with a try begging.

He cost em dearly in that game but admittedly he carved up for most of that season to help get em there.

Better than Daley? No way. I'm a Saints fan but prime Daley gets picked in any team before Choc.

funny how daley never played the race card.


don't forget fittler too..

[stiflers mum]

Flash in the pan eh !!!
Most boxers would kill to have a record like Pavlik's. 98 amateur fights 36-1-0 [ 32 ko's ] in the pros against some good opposition. Tall for a middleweight long reach and tough with a 7 year age advantage on Mundine. We haven't seen the best of Pavlik yet . Hopefully we've just about seen the last of Mundine.
I don't believe this fight will ever get made, " The Pioneer " should be thankful for that.
pfffft the drunk dogged a fight with PW a tall MW with long reach to fight midget Espino.Mundine has zero power at MW but unlike Taylor great stamina.Mundine in a shutout.you've seen the best of Pavlik in Taylor1 where Taylor dropped him and punched himself out ttrying to finish it.

[teke]

Teke, I'm sure you've posted more than once that you don't bet cash.

What happened?Yeah I've stated many times I dont bet cash against other posters.

[LeonMcS]

Whys that?

Bad experience?

Or do you think your better than the rest of us?

[sallywinder]

What would be his kryptonite? :huh

Pork or a ranked contender?

khoder porks him all the time. ranked contenders either put him in a coma, beat him up, or make him run for his life....

oh yeah.....'don key king' is khoder himself...everyone say hi..:piss

[teke]

Whys that?

Bad experience?

Or do you think your better than the rest of us?I dont feel comfortable taking money from mates

[LeonMcS]

But you have no mates here.

[pecks]

I'm his mate, but I've never lost a bet to him. Not since the good old Fred Durst days anyway. :-(