why couldn't GBP push the mosley-floyd fight?

[Relentless]

they could have made it happen if they wanted to, mosley was the interim champ and floyd had the wbc belt, why didn't they try make this fight happen? instead they are letting hatton fight mayweather.

[MacManJr.]

It's simple. They know Shane has a much better chance of beating Cotto than Floyd.

[pipe wrenched]

You said it, they could have if they wanted to. I'm starting to think GBP and some that may not seem in his inner circle are indeed nothing more than a big fuckin circle jerk. What I mean is, IMO him, Mosley, PBF, and maybe even Hatton all sat down somewhere and said "for us to make THE MOST MONEY, here's how we're gonna play it all out." As some others have suggested, and don't get me wrong I was rooting for PBF, I'm not sure Oscar's only goal in fighting PBF was to make shitloads of dough for GBP, not really giving a fuck if he won the fight or not, because he was satisfied long before the first bell rang. Just a crazy "first thing in the morning" opinion of course.

[SteveO]

It would have been nice if they set this up as a 4 man tournament. Maybe it will end up being that way.






Or maybe not.

[Rumsfeld]

It's simple. They know Shane has a much better chance of beating Cotto than Floyd. I disagree. I believe Mayweather would be an easier win for Mosley than Cotto. I just think Mayweather wanted to take an easier route for now. He knows Mosley represents a stylistic nightmare for him, so he's going to wait it out.

[Relentless]

It's simple. They know Shane has a much better chance of beating Cotto than Floyd.

but they know that hatton has a better chance at beating floyd?:huh

slap yourself.

[MacManJr.]

but they know that hatton has a better chance at beating floyd?:huh

slap yourself.They know Hatton is a cash cow and Shane can fight Floyd after he puts Cotto to sleep. As far as the slap yourself part...........whatever.

[Relentless]

They know Hatton is a cash cow and Shane can fight Floyd after he puts Cotto to sleep. As far as the slap yourself part...........whatever.

hatton is a cash cow? is that all you care about?

do you want to see your fighter in good fights or do you just want to see him make money?

does he split his purse with you?

[MacManJr.]

hatton is a cash cow? is that all you care about?

do you want to see your fighter in good fights or do you just want to see him make money?

does he split his purse with you?Stop being silly man. I'm talking about the way Oscar is looking at it. Why would I care about how much dough any of them make? Nobody at 147 can beat Floyd and I want to see him embarass every last one of them.

[Relentless]

Stop being silly man. I'm talking about the way Oscar is looking at it. Why would I care about how much dough any of them make? Nobody at 147 can beat Floyd and I want to see him embarass every last one of them.

so nobody could beat floyd at 147 thats why he is fighting a 140lb'r?

[Relentless]

He's just giving you the reason, faggot.

i know you want to be involved in our conversations but this does not concern you mr. base head, i think he can defend himself, thank you fuck your momma.

[rydersonthestorm]

Well in some respects it could be the money, the insults or the fact that pbf didn't fight the best 140 pounder before he moved up.

[MacManJr.]

so nobody could beat floyd at 147 thats why he is fighting a 140lb'r?How many different ways do I have to tell you he is fighting Hatton because it will make him a ton of money and Oscar signed off on it too because it will make him more than fighting Shane? He can fight Shane after Shane beats Cotto. What are you not understanding?

[Relentless]

How many different ways do I have to tell you he is fighting Hatton because it will make him a ton of money and Oscar signed off on it too because it will make him more than fighting Shane? He can fight Shane after Shane beats Cotto. What are you not understanding?

what if shane doesn't win against cotto?

[Relentless]

Or it could be the fact that the hotties all shoot your ass down at the clubs.

dan just leave my thread:hi:

[MacManJr.]

what if shane doesn't win against cotto?Then he'll fight Cotto in New York for a ton of money. You gotta remember that no matter how much some people hate Oscar (and I'm starting to become one of them) he is an excellent businessman and nobody is more about the money than the Golden Boy! Floyd flaunts it and all but if Oscar woke up tomorrow with Floyd's money he'd swan dive off a bridge.

[Relentless]

Yes I'm dying to be in the conversation that's why I insulted you :roll:

The guy tells you he's fighting Hatton cuz Hatton will bring in more money than Mosley and you say some wack shit like "are you getting his purse" that's the reason he's fighting Hatton, so fuck your thread that everybody knows the answer to.

I hope your father dies, if he's dead already then I'm happy and if he's alive, when he's dead you'll remember this post.

is your e-thuggin supposed to intimidate me?

my father is already dead:yep

so your threat means shit, mr gangsta.

[Dorfmeister]

Mainly for finantial reasons that benefit all fighters, Hatton vs Mayweather makes more money for both and 4 GBP and Mosley still makes a lot of money fighting Cotto, Shane has always the chance to make more money next if he wins in impressive fashion now, same logic for Miguel A. Cotto...

[Simply_The_Best]

It's simple. They know Shane has a much better chance of beating Cotto than Floyd.

Thats builshit man its going to be harder for Shane to beat Cotto thats going to be a WAR!!! Wheres Shane would KTFO mayweather. Dancers Dance and Fighters Fight. :bbb


Ricky Hatton can beat all of them:tong

[Relentless]

So like I said, then I'm happy. :happy May he R.I.Piss.

What a idiot he had to have been to raise a dummy like you.

good for you:good

you're probably going to want to climax after reading this but.......


my grandad is also dead! have a great time!

[MacManJr.]

Thats builshit man its going to be harder for Shane to beat Cotto thats going to be a WAR!!! Wheres Shane would KTFO mayweather. Dancers Dance and Fighters Fight. :bbb


Ricky Hatton can beat all of them:tong....................

[Doomas]

Heres the way I see it : Mosley tried to get Floyd in the ring, and even Oscar tried to lure floyd away from hatton. I think they maby agreed, that If Shane wins against Cotto his name will draw more money, and Oscar is there to fight any looser of these two fights.
After Mosley and PBF wins, Floyd will fight Mosley, while cotto will fight oscar, and Hatton will fight some someone lesser in 147 and will wait until oscar is finished with Cotto. (most money scenario IMO)
But if Cotto wins then I realy doubt Floyd will fight Cotto, instead he might go after De lahoya again.

[Jose FM]

Mayweather wanted Hatton instead of Mosley, he knows Mosley would beat him, so he wanted no part of that.

[China_hand_Joe]

Hatton is a cash-cow obviously.

But also they are just feeding Mosley to Cotto, so Miguel has a big name win on his record for low risk.

[Relentless]

Relentless, in a fistfight, I'd pick him over you. But in a baking contest, my money would be behind you!:hey

***** i'd kick his ass 3 ways!

they dont call me relentless at my gym for nothing.

[BewareofDawg]

The answer is simple. Oscar sees two real money options for himself; a rematch with Floyd or a fight with Hatton. Having Hatton and Floyd fight is THE BEST thing for OSCAR right now. They are doing another 24/7 show, both these guys are going to be getting a shitload of exposure from that and this upcoming superfight. It's a win/win for Hoya. If Floyd destroys Hatton, he is even more popular than before and then Hoya can rematch him and make a shitload of money. The rematch right now isn't as appealling as a result of the lack of action in their first fight, but a Floyd demolition of the smaller Hatton will bring interest right back.....'it's a new Floyd', 'he's gonna destroy Hoya like he did Hatton', etc etc, of course for this to work Floyd HAS TO actually beat the shit out of him and not just out-point him. On the flip side, if Hatton miraculously beats Floyd, this mega-fight with him and Hoya will sell itself....literally. Both fighters already have a huge following. The only problem with the fight now is that Hoya is so much bigger and there is really no reason or excuse for them to fight. But after Hatton beats Floyd all that is fixed, and now Hoya has a legitimate reason to fight Hatton, and will get respect if he beats him.

Thats why Hatton got the Floyd fight and Shane didn't. :good

[standing 8]

I disagree. I believe Mayweather would be an easier win for Mosley than Cotto. I just think Mayweather wanted to take an easier route for now. He knows Mosley represents a stylistic nightmare for him, so he's going to wait it out.



No way, Mayweather would be the harder fight because Mosley has problems with fighters that use movement in their defense.

[Brickhaus]

GBP held an option over Mayweather, the combination of Mayweather/Hatton and Cotto/Mosley makes TONS more money for GBP than would just a Mayweather/Mosley fight. It's not even close.

[BewareofDawg]

I honestly hope you are correct. But Oscar doesnt have 1/5th the balls of a Tito Trinidad, and in my opinion, the Golden Rupaul has absolutley ZERO intentions of stepping in the ring again with the FAR superior Floyd Jr. Hatton got the fight because Oscar wanted to make a buck and is PRAYING that Hatton gets a miracle from Baby Jesus. But you and I know, that Floyd is gonna 12 round decision Hatton, and call out Oscar on live PPV in December. Oscar is going to hem and ha and "no comment, I havent made my mind up yet, I need to get on my boat and think and discuss it with my wife" typical Oscar bullshit that he says after each loss, and he will then announce that he is fighting Cintron, a week later on Cinco de Mayweather.
I am right. I'm always right.

You however, are wrong. Oscar will fight Floyd again. Anything he says otherwise is bullshit and can be chalked up as negotiation tactics. It's funny that you claim everything Oscar says is horseshit, but believe him when he says he won't fight Floyd again. Why wouldn't he? He barely lost the fight. You say Floyd is 'far superior', yet he eeked out a decision in a fight he was losing early on. :deal

[Relentless]

I had Floyd ahead by at LEAST 4 rounds, and I personally contacted the Nevada State Athletic Commission to complain about that blind ass idiot Tom Kacmarek, and his joke of a scorecard. I have no fucking idea what fight he was watching. I just know I was at the Mandalay Bay, watching the fight with 15,000 gay Oscarsexuals such as yourself and it was one silent arena, and that my friend, is the story of Mayweather-de la Hoya.

dan what time did pbf-dlh come on in new mexico?

[BewareofDawg]

I had Floyd ahead by at LEAST 4 rounds, and I personally contacted the Nevada State Athletic Commission to complain about that blind ass idiot Tom Kacmarek, and his joke of a scorecard. I have no fucking idea what fight he was watching. I just know I was at the Mandalay Bay, watching the fight with 15,000 gay Oscarsexuals such as yourself and it was one silent arena, and that my friend, is the story of Mayweather-de la Hoya.
You are as blind as you are gay as your parents are dissapointed then. I scored that fight a draw, and you, I and everyone else on here knows that my score and opinion owns your pathetic biased bullshit. I accept a win for Floyd, but it was in now way a one-sided fight, and a rematch could go either way if Oscars dumb-ass doesn't abandon the jab again.

[MacManJr.]

GBP held an option over Mayweather, the combination of Mayweather/Hatton and Cotto/Mosley makes TONS more money for GBP than would just a Mayweather/Mosley fight. It's not even close.That's what I keep telling these dudes! If Floyd fought Shane then there is no way in hell Hatton would've fought Cotto. He's fighting Floyd because he knows Floyd aint a true welterweight. Cotto would decapitate Hatton! I'll say it again, Oscar is a good businessman!

[Relentless]

dan? Are you still referring to that amazon.com guy you are in love with? You need to start dating some women.

why does your article come on under his name?

[BewareofDawg]

He abandoned the jab because he was getting countered to death, and knew if he kept it up, he'd suffer a points loss. Also, if you re-watch that lovely fight, you will notice that Floyd's jab was flat out faster and more accurate. Superior Genetics, baby.
Maybe. He wasn't getting countered that bad. The landed punches for either fighter were very few and far between.

[BewareofDawg]

He also knows when he is in over his head. Oscar knows, as BewareofDawg knows that he(Golden Rupaul) CANNOT beat Floyd in a boxing match. So, he stuck Hatton in there, on the false "keep your fingers crossed for a miraglo" hopes that Hatton gets lucky. But it wont happen. Oscar can then hem and haw his way out of a Floyd Jr. rematch, and watch, he will land up fighting Cintron for a little IBF trinket in May.
Care to wager on that????

If Floyd wins, I say Oscar takes the rematch. You say he doesn't. :think

[Relentless]

hey dan how was that new eminem cd you bought? did you remember to write a review about it?

[BewareofDawg]

hey dan how was that new eminem cd you bought? did you remember to write a review about it?
Dan Almeida's fantasy date would be Rick Flair dressed in Blue Trunks with 'Gabriel' written on the ass singing Tina Turner's 'Private Dancer' to him :lol:

[MacManJr.]

He also knows when he is in over his head. Oscar knows, as BewareofDawg knows that he(Golden Rupaul) CANNOT beat Floyd in a boxing match. So, he stuck Hatton in there, on the false "keep your fingers crossed for a miraglo" hopes that Hatton gets lucky. But it wont happen. Oscar can then hem and haw his way out of a Floyd Jr. rematch, and watch, he will land up fighting Cintron for a little IBF trinket in May.I agree. Bottom Line is Oscar will manipulate it exactly how he wants it to go and he will always come out of it with the fight he wants and the most money. I can't knock him for that. I get pissed when he plays that good guy role. He is just another Arum/King that can actually step into the ring.

[BewareofDawg]

Ok, your on. No "month off" shit though. Lets do an avatar bet. If Oscar pusses out, you have to put a shot of him wearing fishnets for the months until Cinco de Mayo. And if Oscar mans up and signs the rematch, hell, you pic the photo.
Deal :good

[pipe wrenched]

Heres the way I see it : Mosley tried to get Floyd in the ring, and even Oscar tried to lure floyd away from hatton. I think they maby agreed, that If Shane wins against Cotto his name will draw more money, and Oscar is there to fight any looser of these two fights.
After Mosley and PBF wins, Floyd will fight Mosley, while cotto will fight oscar, and Hatton will fight some someone lesser in 147 and will wait until oscar is finished with Cotto. (most money scenario IMO)
But if Cotto wins then I realy doubt Floyd will fight Cotto, instead he might go after De lahoya again.

This is what I was trying to say this morning, but my brain was still in slow-mo, so I called it a circle jerk.