Pretty boy Floyd Classless?

[codeman99998]

Why?

Is it because he SEEMED like a jerkoff on DLH-Mayweather 24/7? If that is your primary reason for hating the guy, I have news for you folks. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO BELIEVE THAT IS REALITY.

Think about it. The whole thing was aired SOLELY to increase ticket sales. He showed nothing but class when Judah hit him low in the Judah fight, only retaliating by saying in his corner that he "wanted to stop him" which is by far the most noble way to deal with the situation. All the way up to, and including, the Gatti fight he showed his respect after the fight to the fighter he fought.

He gave Jose Luis Castillo a rematch, fair and square, because the decision was so controversial. He seems like a nice family man if you looked past all of the HBO edited bullshit on 24/7.

Sure the guy wears bling and he fights a style you guys don't like, but he sure gets a lot of animosity from people who far too easily buy into the "good guy, bad guy" aspect of boxing. I remember him giving Angel Manfredy full respect, Arturro Gatti full respect, and others. Many fighters claim that their opponents have no chance against them in the pre-fight buildup. It helps their own confidence and their marketability.

Most of this "Floyd is classless, I hate him because he is a bad human being" is ignorance.

Some of the same people who love Mike Tyson claim to hate Mayweather because of "who he is" and not "how he fights"

[jonesjrp4p1]

good post i think the same thing

[DanePugilist]

Why did he chose to be a dick?

[DoumB]

what about his comments on guys like hatton? Sugar ray Leonard ? his remarks towards margarito and his bitch acting when he face the man?

what about the disrespect he still show towards DLH and his team after the fight?

you are a nuthugger my friend, I used to be a fan of his but now he dont have many more real fans


u talk about giving arturo gatti ful;l respect? he threat the guy like shit and tell him hes a paper champ and after the fight he says he was a true champ?

u dont seem pretty inteligent by writing things like that man, no offense

[brooklyn1550]

I saw him on the Tonight Show and The Late Late Show and he seemed like a classy, respectful guy to me...I am not a fan of Floyd by any means, but the way he acted in 24/7 was brilliant - he played the bad guy perfectly and did his part to make the event bigger.

[codeman99998]

you are a nuthugger my friend, I used to be a fan of his but now he dont have many more real fans

I am a fan of boxing, not fighters. The only exception to that rule is CARLOS "HIT HIM ON THE HEAD WHILE HE IS LYING ON THE GROUND FUCKING AWESOME" MAUSSA.

I just don't understand why Floyd get's grief for being "classless". Many many fighters claim that they will easily beat their opposition, that their opponent doesn't stand a chance against them before the fight.

Fighters like Marco Antonio Barerra are never criticized for being "classless".

[DoumB]

I saw him on the Tonight Show and The Late Late Show and he seemed like a classy, respectful guy to me...I am not a fan of Floyd by any means, but the way he acted in 24/7 was brilliant - he played the bad guy perfectly and did his part to make the event bigger.

yeah ppl tend to not understand that this is NOT why hes so hated, its the way he behave when he talk about boxing and fighters, he think hes god and disrespect everyone including us the fans by only fighting for big dolllars and having the GUTS to tell it on top of it

[DoumB]

I am a fan of boxing, not fighters. The only exception to that rule is CARLOS "HIT HIM ON THE HEAD WHILE HE IS LYING ON THE GROUND FUCKING AWESOME" MAUSSA.

I just don't understand why Floyd get's grief for being "classless". Many many fighters claim that they will easily beat their opposition, that their opponent doesn't stand a chance against them before the fight.

Fighters like Marco Antonio Barerra are never criticized for being "classless".

fighters like marco antonio Barrerra go out there balls out take beating and are WILLING to put on a show, a fighter like floyd who is extremely talented tend to only come and get paid big dollar for fighting without risk, dont get me wrong, I think he fights perfectly but a lot of ppl will tell u thats some garbage

the only reason I dont like him anymore is what hes been doing since the DLH fight, nothing but dissapointing me and disrespecting whoever is willing to face him.

[brooklyn1550]

yeah ppl tend to not understand that this is NOT why hes so hated, its the way he behave when he talk about boxing and fighters, he think hes god and disrespect everyone including us the fans by only fighting for big dolllars and having the GUTS to tell it on top of it

:good

[jazzboy]

What did he say about sugar ray leonard

[codeman99998]

fighters like marco antonio Barrerra go out there balls out take beating and are WILLING to put on a show, a fighter like floyd who is extremely talented tend to only come and get paid big dollar for fighting without risk, dont get me wrong, I think he fights perfectly but a lot of ppl will tell u thats some garbage

the only reason I dont like him anymore is what hes been doing since the DLH fight, nothing but dissapointing me and disrespecting whoever is willing to face him.
It's this "classless" term that is being thrown around so willy-nilly that is bothering me.

MAB fucking HIT morales at a press conference. He put Hamed in a half nelson and bulled him to the ropes (he might be a good boxer to MMA cross-over.)

Something was said on another thread, maybe by you, that is actually the best argument. Ali badmouthed his opposition and then FACED them and beat them. I do agree that insulting world class opponents and not actually fighting them is wrong, and tactless.

But seriously, the same people who love Tyson say Floyd is "classless" and I just don't think they understand what the word means.

I'm NOT saying you, or anyone, should LIKE him. I'm just saying that particular insult is poorly thought out.

On a personal note, I tend to lean towards intelligent dialogue over picking sides. I'm trying to say what I haven't heard anyone else say about Floyd. It's not that I'm a fan of his and I'm running to his defense because I'm upset he's getting badmouthed on the internet. If that is what I cared about, I'm sure I could have found another boxing forum where everyone loves Floyd.

[DoumB]

It's this "classless" term that is being thrown around so willy-nilly that is bothering me.

MAB fucking HIT morales at a press conference. He put Hamed in a half nelson and bulled him to the ropes (he might be a good boxer to MMA cross-over.)

Something was said on another thread, maybe by you, that is actually the best argument. Ali badmouthed his opposition and then FACED them and beat them. I do agree that insulting world class opponents and not actually fighting them is wrong, and tactless.

But seriously, the same people who love Tyson say Floyd is "classless" and I just don't think they understand what the word means.

I'm NOT saying you, or anyone, should LIKE him. I'm just saying that particular insult is poorly thought out.

On a personal note, I tend to lean towards intelligent dialogue over picking sides. I'm trying to say what I haven't heard anyone else say about Floyd. It's not that I'm a fan of his and I'm running to his defense because I'm upset he's getting badmouthed on the internet. If that is what I cared about, I'm sure I could have found another boxing forum where everyone loves Floyd.

yep you responded yourself just on that line, the word can be employed with different signification, the way he act towards fellow fighters is classless, the way he act to us fans by retiring with only one idea and it is a rematch with DLH is classless but outside of that hes NOT a classless guy, weve seen him on jay leno and another show and hes a real cool dude

If that was your point then I agree with you and apologize for calling you a nuthugger I didnt understand what u realy meant

[El Bombasto]

I think beating his baby's momma is reason enough to dislike him.

[codeman99998]

I think beating his baby's momma is reason enough to dislike him.

I've never heard that at all.

[DoumB]

I've never heard that at all.

I didnt either and i'm sure hes starting shit up

[Illmatic]

What did he say about sugar ray leonard

He said that he wishes he couldve fought him, and that he would win.

[El Bombasto]

I didnt either and i'm sure hes starting shit up

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[DoumB]

He said that he wishes he couldve fought him, and that he would win.


the exact were he woulda wipp his ass I think

[bigtime9]

Its a combination of him being such a bad sport with a gutter mouth and then run for the whole 12 rounds throwing 2 punches a round.

your exaggerating..I hope:smoke

[bigtime9]

but check this out Baldo was telling him "cmon floyd, I cant hit you, I'm too slow wide open ready to be knocked out. Please knock me out I'm just standing here I cant hit you. The fans are booing"

What did Floyd do? he danced around. thats no exaggeration

you are exaggerating..the only boos where for baldo who wasn't doing anything except getting hit. Have you seen baldo's head there is no way that guy is getting knocked out by a 130lber. The baldo fight was a very entertaining fight, I am not sure what you were watching but it was a hell of alot better then any hatton fight I've seen.

[Lance_Uppercut]

He said that he wishes he couldve fought him, and that he would win.

How about he said he wouldn't even rankin the top ten today. Did you forget that?:deal

[Illmatic]

How about he said he wouldn't even rankin the top ten today. Did you forget that?:deal

is there an interview or article about it around somewhere?

[Lance_Uppercut]

is there an interview or article about it around somewhere?

It already came and went around here. I guess you missed the many threads? :huh

Try btalk...

[codeman99998]

He wasn't jsut stirring up shit. It's true, I read the USA Today article.

I thoroughly 100% retract my post. Hitting a woman is totally classless. I'm going to keep it up because, well, I don't know. But yes, I concede 100%.

[Lance_Uppercut]

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"Lightweight champion Floyd Mayweather Jr. was convicted of misdemeanor battery stemming from a fight with two women inside a nightclub." :patsch:-(

[codeman99998]

"Lightweight champion Floyd Mayweather Jr. was convicted of misdemeanor battery stemming from a fight with two women inside a nightclub." :patsch:-(

*sigh* Please read the entire article before you judge.

"Mayweather also faces a charge of felony domestic violence for allegedly striking the mother of his three children at a Las Vegas nightclub on Dec. 27, 2003. Trial on that charge is scheduled for Aug. 1, 2005. He pleaded guilty two years ago to two charges of misdemeanor domestic violence. The felony domestic violence charge can carry a prison sentence of up to five years and a $10,000 fine."

[Lance_Uppercut]

*sigh* Please read the entire article before you judge.

"Mayweather also faces a charge of felony domestic violence for allegedly striking the mother of his three children at a Las Vegas nightclub on Dec. 27, 2003. Trial on that charge is scheduled for Aug. 1, 2005. He pleaded guilty two years ago to two charges of misdemeanor domestic violence. The felony domestic violence charge can carry a prison sentence of up to five years and a $10,000 fine."

Ny bad!! I almost jumped to a faulty conclusion! :shock:

[thunder06]

People hate him because he's cocky and he's black. Never a good combination.

[DanePugilist]

People hate him because he's cocky and he's black. Never a good combination.What does his color have to do with anything. Ali was both, and he was always popular and that was over 30 years ago - that shit does not apply anymore.

The fact remains that instead of being an ambassador for the sport, he chooses to be an arrogant prick that doesn't back it up with fighting the best; no, he takes the easy road - and for that he doesn't get my respect either.

The guy is talented - no doubt - but thats where it all ends.

[thunder06]

What does his color have to do with anything. Ali was both, and he was always popular and that was over 30 years ago - that shit does not apply anymore.

The fact remains that instead of being an ambassador for the sport, he chooses to be an arrogant prick that doesn't back it up with fighting the best; no, he takes the easy road - and for that he doesn't get my respect either.

The guy is talented - no doubt - but thats where it all ends.


Actually Ali was hated for his trash talking at first, but as time passed and the attitudes of the US changed, he was embraced and people loved him and still do. He had a way of trash talking that was funny and you knew he was just playing. PBF is just a dick when he talks shit, not funny at all, and most of the time just plain annoying.

[sonny73]

Its a combination of being an egomaniac,self deluded,no humility,unspiritual,nouveau riche,woman beater,lacking in social skills,shallow and also a complete lack of any humour.Aswel as the fact he disrespects wayyy to many people.This is the image he gives out when I have seen him on TV he could well be a good guy behind closed doors but I just the feeling he doesn't live with his feet on the ground.

[Lampley]

For me, it's a combination of things:

1) Narcissistic and totally obsessed with money. Everything about him screams greed, and he constantly makes grotesque displays of wealth. (Counting hundreds on countertops, showering bills down at LV clubs, etc.) Lack of class.

2) Domestic abuser. Lack of class.

3) Openly and continually disrespectful of non-opponents and even ATGs. Lack of class.

4) Insincere. How about the waterworks he turned on after beating a helpless opponent -- and huge underdog -- in Gatti. OK, Floyd, we get it. Lack of class.

I respect Floyd immensely as a fighter, but I could never be a real fan of his. Roy Jones was plenty cocky and there were things I didn't like about him, but he didn't cross the line as much as Floyd.

Jones was flashy without constantly rubbing everyone's nose in his dollars. He has no record of male/female violence or any serious criminal activity to my knowledge. Always seemed genuine, so even when he was acting like a jerk, at least I felt he wasn't hiding who he really was. He occasionally took time out to compliment another fighter (not someone he'd fight) and seemed to revere Ray Leonard, and in addition he helped Gerald McClellan financially and even talked about him some.

[Guru_Too_You]

Why did he chose to be a dick?

Because nobody is going to be the good guy against De La Hoya.

[DoumB]

Because nobody is going to be the good guy against De La Hoya.

:yep

[Marc]

pbf wants people to hate him and fortunately there are a lot who fall for his act. ticket sales. $$$ chaching $$$:hi:


there are pbf clips on youtube about him doing charity. and i bet a lot of you guys dont know he wore pink gloves in the baldomir fight for a breast cancer foundation. :hey

[grayggr]

:yep

He was a dick before that. Geesh even Judah was portrayed as the 'hero' in their match up. Just shows how much of a dick he is.

[pit]

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The keyword there is misdemeanor if you have read other stories on this issue you would know that Floyd Threw his baby mama out of his house after she threw a temper tantrum and started breaking furniture , she also admitted to lying that floyd had hit her because he had left her for another woman ..

misdemeanor assault can be classified as touching , spitting or grabbing .
and rarely if bad enough for prison time.

Felony assault or battery is what the Late chico was found guilty of and almost always require jail time or prison time .

[El Bombasto]

The keyword there is misdemeanor if you have read other stories on this issue you would know that Floyd Threw his baby mama out of his house after she threw a temper tantrum and started breaking furniture , she also admitted to lying that floyd had hit her because he had left her for another woman ..

misdemeanor assault can be classified as touching , spitting or grabbing .
and rarely if bad enough for prison time.

Felony assault or battery is what the Late chico was found guilty of and almost always require jail time or prison time .

So, that makes it okay?

[Guru_Too_You]

So, that makes it okay?

No he should have let her break everything in the house, stab him and then burn down the house.

All he did was throw a crazy bitch out of his house, and if thats worth jail time, 85% of the men on the planet would be in a 6x6 cell.

[pit]

So, that makes it okay?

No it mean don't try to make it something it is not ..

In this day and age looking or brushing against someone to hard can be considered misdemeanor assault

[MagnificentMatt]

Why?

Is it because he SEEMED like a jerkoff on DLH-Mayweather 24/7? If that is your primary reason for hating the guy, I have news for you folks. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO BELIEVE THAT IS REALITY.

Think about it. The whole thing was aired SOLELY to increase ticket sales. He showed nothing but class when Judah hit him low in the Judah fight, only retaliating by saying in his corner that he "wanted to stop him" which is by far the most noble way to deal with the situation. All the way up to, and including, the Gatti fight he showed his respect after the fight to the fighter he fought.

He gave Jose Luis Castillo a rematch, fair and square, because the decision was so controversial. He seems like a nice family man if you looked past all of the HBO edited bullshit on 24/7.

Sure the guy wears bling and he fights a style you guys don't like, but he sure gets a lot of animosity from people who far too easily buy into the "good guy, bad guy" aspect of boxing. I remember him giving Angel Manfredy full respect, Arturro Gatti full respect, and others. Many fighters claim that their opponents have no chance against them in the pre-fight buildup. It helps their own confidence and their marketability.

Most of this "Floyd is classless, I hate him because he is a bad human being" is ignorance.

Some of the same people who love Mike Tyson claim to hate Mayweather because of "who he is" and not "how he fights"

And you think Mike Tyson (before he went crazy) was classless?

Watching 24/7 i learned id rather hang out with 50 Cent (i hate his music, i more of an old school/underground rap) than PBF..:yep

[Pimp C]

No he should have let her break everything in the house, stab him and then burn down the house.

All he did was throw a crazy bitch out of his house, and if thats worth jail time, 85% of the men on the planet would be in a 6x6 cell.
Exactly! If I work hard in the ring and make millions and a bitch that I'm with breaks my shit in my house, you god damn right I'm going to throw the bitch out. That bitch needed to be checked you don't go around breaking shit in someone's house male or female.:deal

[MooseKnuckle]

I just think the guy's a regular douche nozzle, I get acting that way before a fight to hype it up, but the dude is just a dick all around.

[hahahax]

yep you responded yourself just on that line, the word can be employed with different signification, the way he act towards fellow fighters is classless, the way he act to us fans by retiring with only one idea and it is a rematch with DLH is classless but outside of that hes NOT a classless guy, weve seen him on jay leno and another show and hes a real cool dude

If that was your point then I agree with you and apologize for calling you a nuthugger I didnt understand what u realy meant

Last time I checked, he does not owe you anything. If he feels like retiring or only facing DLH, it's his CHOICE. It has nothing to do with class.

Wanna talk about classless? Judah is classless. Tyson is classless. Cotto was classless in that fight with Judah, dependign on whether or not yo ubelieve it was intentional. Margarito was classless at the pbf press conf. How many times have you seen Mayweather disrespect an opponent INSIDE THE RING or physically assault him outside the ring?Dude is just selling the fight outside the ring, it's jsut words. When he's between the ropes, he shows no disrespect, he doesn't even showboat, he coulda made a number on Gatti and did not, he just fought. That's respect.

[El Bombasto]

No it mean don't try to make it something it is not ..

In this day and age looking or brushing against someone to hard can be considered misdemeanor assault

I suppose PBF is just the victim of frequent misunderstandings then?

[Ramshall1]

Classless, scumbag and a coward.

[C Money]

Personally, I dont care if he has CLASS or NOT. All i ask is that he fight the best as REAL CHAMPIONS DO and let that speak for itself.

I'm suprised to read in this thread that many are unaware of Floyd's INCIDENCES with hitting women. There were at least 5 "cases" in the past of him allegedly abusing his women and one publicly in a LV nightclub. Now, it seems as if PBf has controlled this problem, and as far as I know the incidences have been settled.

Floyd also publicly disrespected SRL at some type of event where someone asked SRL if he wished to be PRIME again to whip Floyds ass. SRL responded with something like "I dont have to be prime ,32 would do". Floyd dissing guy's like Leonard is PATHETIC since he actually faced the best of his time and that was something special.

I dont have to like him to respect him as a CHAMPION, but I cant do that until he's PROVEN IT AGAINST THE TOP OPPOSITION.

[El Bombasto]

Personally, I dont care if he has CLASS or NOT. All i ask is that he fight the best as REAL CHAMPIONS DO and let that speak for itself.

I'm suprised to read in this thread that many are unaware of Floyd's INCIDENCES with hitting women. There were at least 5 "cases" in the past of him allegedly abusing his women and one publicly in a LV nightclub. Now, it seems as if PBf has controlled this problem, and as far as I know the incidences have been settled.

Floyd also publicly disrespected SRL at some type of event where someone asked SRL if he wished to be PRIME again to whip Floyds ass. SRL responded with something like "I dont have to be prime ,32 would do". Floyd dissing guy's like Leonard is PATHETIC since he actually faced the best of his time and that was something special.

I dont have to like him to respect him as a CHAMPION, but I cant do that until he's PROVEN IT AGAINST THE TOP OPPOSITION.

:good

[magnificentdave]

i don't care if he's got class or not, he fights great, but his fights lack a certain amount of excitement because he doesn't take chances

[Lance_Uppercut]

Personally, I dont care if he has CLASS or NOT. All i ask is that he fight the best as REAL CHAMPIONS DO and let that speak for itself.

I'm suprised to read in this thread that many are unaware of Floyd's INCIDENCES with hitting women. There were at least 5 "cases" in the past of him allegedly abusing his women and one publicly in a LV nightclub. Now, it seems as if PBf has controlled this problem, and as far as I know the incidences have been settled.

Floyd also publicly disrespected SRL at some type of event where someone asked SRL if he wished to be PRIME again to whip Floyds ass. SRL responded with something like "I dont have to be prime ,32 would do". Floyd dissing guy's like Leonard is PATHETIC since he actually faced the best of his time and that was something special.

I dont have to like him to respect him as a CHAMPION, but I cant do that until he's PROVEN IT AGAINST THE TOP OPPOSITION.

Floyd fans apparently LIKE that shit and respect him more for it! :lol:

[o_money]

mayweather's full of shit.....like a politician.

Doesn't speak truths. Only says what serves him best.

[C Money]

Floyd fans apparently LIKE that shit and respect him more for it! :lol:

I'm sure a certain percentage do. But?? IMO, the majority of PBF fans are simply the "hype" crowd riding the wave of his undefeated record. The minute that ceases? I'll bet that fan base is reduced BY HALF and its definitely not the LARGEST base to begin with. The guy doesnt have or hasnt displayed any endearing qualities indicative of solid character and lasting support.

[El Bombasto]

I'm sure a certain percentage do. But?? IMO, the majority of PBF fans are simply the "hype" crowd riding the wave of his undefeated record. The minute that ceases? I'll bet that fan base is reduced BY HALF and its definitely not the LARGEST base to begin with. The guy doesnt have or hasnt displayed any endearing qualities indicative of solid character and lasting support.

You're probably right, though Floyd, like every fighter, has die-hard fans. Even Ruiz has a devoted fan club.

[C Money]

You're probably right, though Floyd, like every fighter, has die-hard fans. Even Ruiz has a devoted fan club.

NO doubt, and using the Ruiz example is perfect!! But if Floyd loses?? Much of the sensationalist types will disappear.:D

[El Bombasto]

NO doubt, and using the Ruiz example is perfect!! But if Floyd loses?? Much of the sensationalist types will disappear.:D

about 70% of his fanbase

[Brendan]

Mayweather just carries himself like an insecure jerk. Not only did he appear to be an immature little prick on 24/7, but in interviews, both live and on paper, he comes across that way. Throwing large amounts of money all over the place and disrespecting people are only the tip of the iceberg. The guy is a self righteous ego maniac who is far from thinking like an adult.

[Silverfox]

I've never heard that at all.
Where there's smoke, there's fire!

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[Johnnyblaze]

Floyd is an arrogant jerk yes, but he still is the #1 p4p fighter in the sport, so get over it. before he was awarded that title, nobody really knew or cared about what he was like outside the ring (he was the same kid), now that he's the man, people look for every opportunity and any reason to hate him. maybe you don't like his style, but nobody can fuck with him. maybe you don't agree with him being atop the p4p list, but he'll be there until he officially retires or he loses so until then just give him his due respect. hate him or love him, hes the man right now.